moment of her conception was preserved free from every taint of original sin. Unlike the rest of the children of Adam, the soul of Mary was never subject to sin. Faith of our Fathers, Carl Nogimbens, page 203 and 204. The sainted Dr. Alphonius de Liguri says, the merits of Jesus shall be dispensed through the hands and by the intercession of Mary. That's from the book Glories of Mary, page 180. God has chosen to bestow no grace upon us but by the hands of Mary. Whoever asks and wishes to obtain graces without intercession of Mary attempts to fly without wings. Mary is the hope of our salvation. Thou art the only advocate of sinners. All those who are saved are saved only by means of this Divine Mother. The salvation of all depends upon preaching Mary. These are statements by the Catholic Church about the role that Mary plays. Now among other things, Mary which was incorporated into the Catholic Church from Ephesus, and Ephesus being the seat of the worship of Diana, among other things, Mary is reflecting the pagan goddess of fortifications. And that's the only God in the history of the world that you can find, and I'm saying God in a non-feminine or masculine sense. If you're going to go look for a God that is worshipped anywhere in history, that is a God of fortifications, a God of fortresses, which verse 38 identifies, the only one you're going to find is Samarimus, and how you'll find her popping up in different cultures throughout history with different names. But when she finally comes into Catholicism, she is the Virgin Mary, and the passage says that she was going to increase with glory, and we're just reading some passages of how the implications of how Catholics understand Mary's role to be, and I don't know how much more glory you can heap upon the Virgin Mary than saying that she's the only advocate for sinners, there is no salvation but through her. Now, the last part of verse 40 says that the papacy was going to divide the world for gain, and there are several Adventists throughout history that have understood this correctly. I mean, you can get into...