Sabbath Webex Meetings

November 2, 2026

Sabbath Webex meeting video and transcript.

Meeting Video

November 2, 2026

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00:00:11.827 - 00:00:30.420 Good morning. Let's begin with the word of prayer. Heavenly Father, we thank you for bringing us together this morning to consider your word, ask that you grandest your Holy Spirit to.

00:00:30.420 - 00:00:50.730 Direct our thoughts, our understanding, control our understanding in a way that we can hear your voice and be benefited from hearing that voice. We ask up on us in this time of the latterraine and that you give us all discernment and.

00:00:50.730 - 00:01:07.170 Ready minds and soft hearts. Pray for a blessing upon this day and upon the time we studied together here this morning in Jesus name Amen, the I'm gonna go through.

00:01:07.170 - 00:01:23.010 Some things this morning in, in response to brother Dan's presentation yesterday. I don't know, you know, I was actually physically ill yesterday I think from that morning worship.

00:01:23.010 - 00:01:38.220 I'm not complaining I'm just saying it, it engendered in me some of the, the thoughts and the the stress of the 2020 time period and thereafter.

00:01:38.220 - 00:01:57.060 And I could tell when I was out there working in the garden that I was having an upset stomach just from from those, those old you know, just your emotional systems connected to your physical system. But I suppose everyone that was on worship yesterday.

00:01:57.060 - 00:02:12.750 From Dan who presented and all of us that were listening that we had our own personal, whatever shaking or whatever we we need to label it yesterday, so I wanna.

00:02:12.750 - 00:02:29.550 I want to put my $0.02 in on what's going on and, and you can, you can respond with your $0.02 later on in the this meeting perhaps. But anyway, I'm gonna I'm gonna say that.

00:02:29.550 - 00:02:49.550 I'm relating to yesterday's presentation as if as if it was the Lord's will, for several reasons and, kind of like a wake up call and sort of, upon the principle of Peter. Peter's been one of the main symbols that the Lord has used to.

00:02:49.550 - 00:03:06.570 Bring us into the Panium Cessorria period, the ceiling of the hundred and 44000 Peter's assemble and remember that we remember that Peter.

00:03:06.570 - 00:03:25.230 Dissowned his Lord, you know, he, he manifested disbelieve in his Lord right there when Christ was going to the cross, and then Jesus came to him later and asked him three times. Love us down me. He had manifested that he did not love him. That was his.

00:03:25.230 - 00:03:42.570 Personal testimony on the way to the cross, and the idea that we were confronted here at this point in history with the, the idea of time setting again after what went on in 2020.

00:03:42.570 - 00:03:59.220 It is I still think the lord's in control of it because it corresponds to something that I was laying out in the lines on Sabath and before and that being that the.

00:03:59.220 - 00:04:19.220 The yeard day principle, it's woven into our history in a variety of ways and here we are again, approaching the close of probation for the virgins and we're having to grapple with your day, day for year principle once again. So.

00:04:19.220 - 00:04:36.089 Anyway, and Joel, I'll get started and go through the material that I prepared and quit rambling. In Joel 02:25 to 29, it says and I will restore to you the years of the the locust has eaten the canker worm, the caterpillar, and the palmer worm, my great army, which I sent among you.

00:04:36.089 - 00:04:55.319 That's four generations of adventism that are illustrating a progressive destruction of adventism that leads to a point in time where the Lord is gonna pass by those former covenant people and enter into covenant with a hundred and 44000. He's gonna restore.

00:04:55.319 - 00:05:11.999 Those years and you shall eat in plenty and be satisfied and praise the name of the Lord your God that has dealt wonderfully with you, and my people shall never be ashamed and eating in plenty and being satisfied and praising the name of the Lord is.

00:05:11.999 - 00:05:27.779 In agreement with the Lord coming down at 09:11 with a little book open in his hand that we were to take and eat and the prophetic message that's in that little book becomes a point of a contention in the book of Joel, where.

00:05:27.779 - 00:05:44.309 One class is passed by and they are ashamed and one class is never ashamed and they have prophetic joy. Continuing on and you shall know that I am the Lord in the midst of Israel and that I am the Lord your God and unnounced and my people shall never be ashamed.

00:05:44.309 - 00:06:02.039 And it shall come to pass afterwards that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh and your sons and your daughter should shall prophesy. Your old man shall dream dreams, and your young man shall see visions also and also upon the servants and upon the hand mades in those days will I pour out my spirit?

00:06:02.039 - 00:06:17.189 So in the time of the restoration, when the Lord is passing by the former covenant people and entering into covenant with a hundred and 44000, there is an issue and we've been contending that it's Nashville.

00:06:17.189 - 00:06:37.189 Where the distinction between layer to seen adventism and Philadelphia and adventism is manifested with one class being ashamed of their peace and safety message and the other, being vindicated. And in that time period of the lattering and of the restitution of all things, it were told.

00:06:37.189 - 00:06:57.189 That there's gonna be dreams and there's gonna be visions and in the book of acts taking drawing from this passage and Joel, the book of acts says repent you therefore and be converted that your sins maybe blotted out and the blotting out of sin is the final work that Christ does and the judgment of the living all.

00:06:57.189 - 00:07:23.959 So the time period of the latter rain. Repent either for it may even be converted, you have to be alive to repent. So it's the judgment of the living, that your sins maybe blotted out. Excuse me, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord and he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached under you, whom the heavens must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God has spoken by the mouth of all his hopefully.

00:07:23.959 - 00:07:46.729 Profits since the world began. So the judgment of the living, time period of the latter rain, the refreshing, the restoration, there is gonna be a manifestation of the power of God that includes dreams and visions. If this prophecy of Joel made a partial fulfillment in the days of the apostles, we are living in a time when it is.

00:07:46.729 - 00:08:12.529 To be even more evidently manifests to the people of God. He will so bestowe his spirit upon his people that they will become a light, amid the moral darkness, and a great light will be reflected in all parts of the world o that our faith might be increased that the Lord might work mighty with his people and the she was referring to verses out of Joel right before.

00:08:12.529 - 00:08:34.789 She makes his comment. She quotes Joel to some firsts in there. So we know that the perfect fulfillment of the book of Joel, it was fulfilled in the time of acts, but if the perfect fulfillment is in our history, and it's fulfilled upon a people that will have the ways and me.

00:08:34.789 - 00:08:54.789 Means are the positioning that the light they receive is reflected in all parts of the world, and I contend that that is the work that's been going on with this website and the translation into the various languages and that we're in the time period when the perfect fulfillment of.

00:08:54.789 - 00:09:15.809 Joel is gonna take place and that there will be dreams and visions. I'm not saying anything one way or another about dreams and vision at this point. I'm just making, putting some things in place. This particular passage is that I'm gonna read here.

00:09:15.809 - 00:09:32.069 It's it's one of my favorite passages for just cause it's a little bit different. It's an introduction to the great conversary and, but it's good on this thought about the activity of the Holy spirit.

00:09:32.069 - 00:09:52.069 In the terms of the latter range. Jesus promised his disciples the comforter, which is the Holy Spirit whom the father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things and bring all things to your rememberance whatsoever I've said onto you. When he the spirit of truth has come, he will guide you into all truth and he will show you things to come. Scripture plainly teaches that these promises.

00:09:52.069 - 00:10:18.649 So so far from being limited to apostilic days extended the church of Christ in all ages. The Savior assures his father, followers I am with you always even until the end of the world and Paul declares that the gifts and the manifestations of the spirit were sending the church for the re perfecting of the saints for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ until we all come in the unity of faith and the knowledge of the son of God into a perfect.

00:10:18.649 - 00:10:42.899 And to the major and the statue of the fullness of Christ. For the believers that emphasis the apostles prayed that the Lord, that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the father of glory may give you unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation and the knowledge of him, the eyes of your understanding being lightened that you may know it is the hope of his calling and what is the exceeding greatness.

00:10:42.899 - 00:11:02.899 Of his power to us word, who believed. The ministry of the Divine spirit in enlightening the understanding and opening to the mind the deep things of God's holy Word was the blessing which Paul thus besaught for the Ephesian church. After the wonderful manifestation of the Holy Spirit on the day of pennacosts, Peter exoreded the people.

00:11:02.899 - 00:11:29.339 To to repentance and baptism in the name of Christ for the remissions of their sins and he said you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit or the promises under you and to your children and to all that are far off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. In an immediate connection with the the scenes of the Great Day of God, the Lord by the prophet Joel has promised a special manifestation of his spirit.

00:11:29.339 - 00:11:49.339 This prophecy received a partial fulfillment in the outpouring of the spirit on the day of Pennicous, but it will reach his full accomplishment in the manifestation of divine grace, which will attend the closing work of the gospel, which is the blinding out of sin and the judgment of the living. The great controversy between good and evil will increase and intent.

00:11:49.339 - 00:12:23.299 City to the very close of time. In all ages, the rath of Satan has been manifested against the church of Christ and God bestowed his grace and spirit upon his people to strengthen them to stand against the power of the evil one. When the apostles of Christ were to bear his gospel to the world and to record it for future ages, they were especially endowed with the enlightenment of the spirit. But as the church, approaches her final deliverance, that's where we're at today. Satan is to is to work with greater power. He comes down having great rath because he know us, he has but a short.

00:12:23.299 - 00:12:48.679 Time. He will work with all power and signs and lying wonders. For 6000 years that mastermind that once was the highest among the angels of God has been wholly bent to work to the work of deception and ruin and all the depths of satanic skill and subtly acquired, all the cruelity developed during these struggles of the ages will be brought to bear against God's people.

00:12:48.679 - 00:13:06.059 In their final conflict. And in this time apparel, the followers of Christ are to bear to the world the warning of the Lord's second advent and that people are to be prepared to stand before him at his coming without spot and blameless. At this time.

00:13:06.059 - 00:13:26.059 The special endowment of divine grace and power is not less needful to the church than an apostalic days. So we believe that we are the wise virgins just before human probation closes that are gonna be changed from.

00:13:26.059 - 00:13:46.639 Layer to see in movement of the hundred and 44000 to the Philadelphian movement of the hundred and 44000 at the litmus test that is the test that follows the temple test. We've been teaching and understanding that just to tell them why it went into the most holy place at the beginning of adventism.

00:13:46.639 - 00:14:13.289 That we are called to do enter into the most holy place here at the end and we have a temple test and from this study that was putting together symbols by brother Dan of the sanctuate seemed consistent with where we were going and what we were doing and then unexpectedly to me, I think to everyone yesterday.

00:14:13.289 - 00:14:33.289 As Dan's bringing to a conclusion of study, he reveals that the Lord has given him the hour and the day and the hour and the day he identified as tabernacles and placed it pretty much in this in his structure similar to what we've been dealing with with a little Bitticas 23.

00:14:33.289 - 00:14:55.289 What I'm saying is now, now I'm starting to get to my point is that if we're serious about this message, then the lines of prophecy that speak to this period of time, they're like Malikai three, the messenger of the covenant is purifying the silver and gold by fire and he's purging them.

00:14:55.289 - 00:15:11.729 And purging the levites that are gonna be offering as in the former days, it says in Malikai three. So, to me, I think it almost demands that in this temple test.

00:15:11.729 - 00:15:29.009 That the Lord tests this, that's that's what we're we're in a testing time and I'm viewing yesterday as a, a test for the people that are following this message and.

00:15:29.009 - 00:15:49.009 It's, it's a multifaceted test, I suppose, and I suppose I don't understand all the elements of it. But one of them is, is that because Dan has seen the prophetic message of Ezeko in the context of what we're studying and he's seen his own.

00:15:49.009 - 00:16:08.159 Personal life testimony aligning with that history. We're confronted with our responsibility to determine whether the dreams that are being brought into his prophetic presentation are.

00:16:08.159 - 00:16:26.429 Dreams that are part of the outpouring of the Holy Spirit during this time period or are they dreams that are brought by Satan to misdirect? And my point is right now isn't whether to condemn or condone his presentation yesterday, my point is is that.

00:16:26.429 - 00:16:42.599 It seems consistent with the testing process and the preparation for what's ahead that the Lord is forcing us to grapple with these decisions about discernment, and.

00:16:42.599 - 00:17:02.599 To it's dangerous to it's it's wrong to suggest that the best way to, not accept false dreams and visions that Satan's going to bring into this movement. We've just read testimony from inspiration that he's going to.

00:17:02.599 - 00:17:32.119 More than any other time he's gonna attempt to deceive this latter day people and dreams and false dreams and false visions is one of the ways that he does it and it's a, it's wrong to think the way to prevent accepting a dream or a vision from Satan is just by saying that all dreams and visions are off the table. None of them not gonna look at any of them because the, the dreams and.

00:17:32.119 - 00:17:54.179 Visions that are promised and Joel are for the edification as Paul says, of his people. So we have suddenly, we're confronted with a snap test on do we have the discernment to wade through a presentation such as yesterday that incorporates.

00:17:54.179 - 00:18:14.179 Personal dreams with the prophetic testimony, and so to just say, well, we'll just, and then I'm not saying anyone has said this, but just to say, well, we'll just disregard every dream, then you find yourself in this class. Here we see that the church, the Lord sanctuary was the 1st to fill the stroke of the rath of God.

00:18:14.179 - 00:18:43.099 Of the ancient man, those whose whom God had given great light and who had stood his guardians of the special interests of the people, had betrayed their test. Trust. They had taken the position that we need not look for miracles and marked manifestation of God's power as informer days. And this as informer days is right out of Malikai three. They're gonna be an offering as in former days. The, in that history.

00:18:43.099 - 00:19:08.149 Where Malikaya is perfecting the offering of the enzine. One class says we shouldn't expect the miracles that are represented in the book of Joel and axed to be manifested in our history and that includes the legitimate, inspired dreams and vision, and they've just said not none of.

00:19:08.149 - 00:19:34.769 That's gonna happen and that's a danger for us in this movement is to not understand that the Lord is gonna work in in a way in this time period that he hasn't done through the hundred and so years of adventism and the leadership of adventism has taken the position that we need not look for miracles and marked manifestations of power of God as in former days.

00:19:34.769 - 00:19:53.219 And sister White says the advant movement of 1840 to 1844 was a glorious manifestation of the power of God. That history of 1844 or 1840 to 1844 is the history of 09:11 to the sunday law. There's gonna be manifestations of the power of God in this history. I I.

00:19:53.219 - 00:20:09.779 See several that I believe are manifestations of the power of God, but after yesterday's presentation, I'm focusing in on the promise and Joel that there's gonna be genuine dreams and visions.

00:20:09.779 - 00:20:27.119 So sister White says in more than one place, I got a few places where she says it to put in the record that the financisms that came in the early part of the work will be repeated at the end. So whether yesterday it was a financism or not, I'm not dressing that right now.

00:20:27.119 - 00:20:46.349 We have been forewarned that the financisms in the early part of the of adventism get repeated in the latter part and we're claiming this is the latter part. So we should expect to see financisms, and at the same time we should expect to see.

00:20:46.349 - 00:21:06.349 The workings of the Holy Spirit in fulfillment of the book of Joel. So mr. White's commenting on these phoneaticisms here many errors arose, and though I was then little more than a child I was sent by the Lord from place to place to rebook those who were holding these false doctrines. There were those who were in danger of going into the.

00:21:06.349 - 00:21:26.699 Fanaticism, and I was bidden in the name of the Lord to give them a warning from heaven. We shall have to meet these same false doctrines again. There will be those who claim to have visions. When God gives you clear evidence that the vision is from him, you may accept it. But do not accept it.

00:21:26.699 - 00:21:42.449 On any other evidence, for people who are going to be led more and more straight in foreign countries, and in America, the Lord wants his people to act like men and women of sense. Excuse me, I got it.

00:21:42.449 - 00:22:02.449 Clear my throat a little bit. In the future, the desk deception of every kind is to arise and we want solid ground for our feet. We want solid pillars for our building, not one pin, is to remove from that which the Lord is established. Where should we find safety unless it be in the truth?

00:22:02.449 - 00:22:23.759 That the Lord has been giving for the last 50 years. And each of the ancient prophets spoke more for our days than the days in which they lived. So when she's saying not one pin is to be removed from that which the Lord has established what does Lord has established since 2023.

00:22:23.759 - 00:22:40.469 Prophetically, nothing needs to be removed. This applies to us more directly than it does the warning about tearing down the foundations of the early advent movement in her lifetime.

00:22:40.469 - 00:23:00.469 Another one that was review inhereld 25 May 1905 as the end draws near the enemy will work with all his power to bring in fanaticism among us. He would rejoice to see 7th the admin is going to such extremes that they would be branded by the world as a body of fanatics against this danger height.

00:23:00.469 - 00:23:21.959 I spoke to one brother yesterday and he didn't tell me this conclusion I'm gonna throw in there, but he was he's been laboring to get to his family to listen to Dan's presentation. He thought maybe this was something that was gonna get them back on track in this message or whatever.

00:23:21.959 - 00:23:38.339 And so he's just been pushing him to come in and and they didn't listen to the presentation yesterday, but he had to go tell him what went on and I don't know, I don't know what, the dynamics of that conversation was or the outcome of it is, but.

00:23:38.339 - 00:23:58.049 Here you are, you're, you're lifting up a nice presentation on on the elements, the symbols in the sanctuary of the chairbum, the wings. And then people that have watched this movement get destroyed in 2020 from time setting.

00:23:58.049 - 00:24:17.969 Then what the brother has to tell his family is where we've got confronted with another test on time setting it it has the potential from, for closing the door to that family. He was trying to bring in. So if, if this phoneaticism that came in yesterday.

00:24:17.969 - 00:24:37.969 He needs to understand it. If it's not, he needs to stand with the truth. But in any case he has to decide and we all have to decide. As they end draws near, the enemy will work with all his power to bring in fanaticism among us. He would rejoice to see 7th day evidence going to such extremes that they would be branded by the world as a body of.

00:24:37.969 - 00:24:59.119 Fanatics. Against this danger I'm bidden to warn ministers and lane members. Our artwork is to teach men and women to build on a true foundation to plant their feet on a plane, thus say it the lord. In 1844 we had to meet fanaticism on every hand, but always the word came to me a great wave of excitement is an injury to the world.

00:24:59.119 - 00:25:20.129 Work, keep your feet on the footprints of Christ. Keep your feet in the footprints of Christ. Under great excitement strange work is done. There are those who improve this opportunity to bring in strange and fanciful doctrines. Thus the door is closed to the proclamation of sound doctrine. A couple more.

00:25:20.129 - 00:25:36.599 Spirit of prophacy quotes. Christ uses the wind as the symbol of the spirit of God as the wind blow us, whether it lists we and we cannot tell once it come with or whether it goes, so it is with the spirit of God. We do not know through whom it will be manifested.

00:25:36.599 - 00:25:53.489 But I speak not my own words when I say that God's spirit will pass by those who have had their day of test and opportunity, but who have not distinguished the voice of God or appreciated the movings of his spirit.

00:25:53.489 - 00:26:13.489 So here's she's saying that we're gonna get a day of test and opportunity, and the test is gonna be whether we can distinguish the voice of God and appreciate the providential leading of the Holy spirit. And if we don't pass that this test.

00:26:13.489 - 00:26:34.039 Yes, we're passed by. Then, and notice one is placed that after this day of test and opportunity, and those who did not distinguish the voice of the Lord are passed by, that's the judgment upon the church, then thousands in the 11th hour will see and acknowledge the.

00:26:34.039 - 00:26:56.959 The truth, so this is the distinction between the image of the beast testing time in the United States and the image of the beast testing time in the world, and the 11th hour workers are entering into judgment at the Sunday law. Our judgment is passed. And according to her, we have a day of test and opportunity and it's based upon our.

00:26:56.959 - 00:27:21.709 Being able to distinguish the voice of God and appreciate his providential leading the movings of his spirit. Behold, the days come say at the Lord that the plowman should overtake the reeper and the treator of grapes him that Soa seeds aimous 09:13. These conversions to truth will be made with rapidity that will surprise the church.

00:27:21.709 - 00:27:54.979 And God's name alone will be glorified. Fanaticism will appear in the very midst of us. Deceptions will come, and if such a character that if it were possible they would mislead the very elect. If marked inconsistency and untruthful utterances were apparent in these manifestations, the words from the lips of the great teacher would not be needed. It is because of the many and very dangers that would arise that this warning is given. The reason why I hang out the danger signal that.

00:27:54.979 - 00:28:22.829 Is that through the enlightenment of the spirit of God I can see that which my brothern do not discern. It may not be a positive necessity for me to point out all these particular phases of deception that they will need to guard against. It is enough for me to tell you, be on your guard and as faithful sentence keep the flock of God from accepting indiscriminately all that profess to be communicated to them from the Lord.

00:28:22.829 - 00:28:42.829 If we work to create an excitement of feeling we shall have all we want and more than we can possibly know how to manage. Calmly and clearly preach the word, we must not regard it as our work to create an excitement. And I'm not I'm not suggesting that that was what Dan was trying to do but.

00:28:42.829 - 00:29:00.809 I'm putting some principles in place. So when it comes to dreams, I I like this, particular overview that is by James Quite, so you can argue it's not inspired, but it's his introduction.

00:29:00.809 - 00:29:20.809 To william Miller's dreams. The follow William miller's dream. The following dream was published in Advent Harold more than two years since I then saw that it clearly marked out our past second advent experience and that God gave the dream for the benefit of the scattered flock. Among the signs of the near approach of the great and terrible day of the lord, God is placed.

00:29:20.809 - 00:29:47.329 Dreams C Joel 02:28 through 31, acts to 17 through 20. Dreams may come in in three ways. 1st, through the multitude of business, see Aclesiasty's five 3 s, those who are under a foul spirit and deception of Satan may have dreams through his influence. C duteronomy eight, one through five Germany 2320 07:29, Zach right Ten, Judy.

00:29:47.329 - 00:30:18.619 And 3rd, God has always taught and still teaches his people more or less by dreams which come through the agency of angels and the Holy Spirit. Those who stand in the clear light of truth will know when God gives them a dream, and such will not be deceived and let us stray by false dreams. And he said here now my words, if there be a prophet among you, either Lord will make myself known under him in a vision will and will speak under him in a dream.

00:30:18.619 - 00:30:39.739 Said Jacob the angel of the Lord spakened to me in the dream, and God came to layman the Syrian in a dream by night. Read the dreams of Joseph, Joseph, and then the interesting story of their fulfillment in Egypt. In Vivian the Lord appeared to Solomon in a dream by night. The great important image of the.

00:30:39.739 - 00:31:02.669 Second chapter of Daniel was given in a dream, also the four beast of the 7th chapter. When Harrod saw to destroy the infant savior, Joseph was warned in a dream to flee into Egypt, and it shall come to pass in the last day, say at the Lord I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh and your sons and daughters shall prophesy and your young men shall see vision.

00:31:02.669 - 00:31:18.869 And your old men shall see dream dreams, then the gift of prophecy by dreams and visions is here the fruit of the Holy Spirit and in the last days is to be manifested sufficiently to constitute a sign. It is one of the gifts of the gosspel church.

00:31:18.869 - 00:31:35.399 And he gave some apostles and some prophets and some evangelists and some pastors and teachers for the perfecting of the saints, for the working of the ministry for the edifying of the body of Christ. And God has set some in the church 1st apostles, secondarily prophets.

00:31:35.399 - 00:31:55.399 Profit, prophets or prophesign are for the edification of the Church of Christ and there's NO evidence that can be produced from the word of God that they were deceased before evangelists pastors and teachers were deceased. But says the objectives, there's been so many false visions and dreams that I cannot have confidence in anything of.

00:31:55.399 - 00:32:16.669 That kind. It is true that Satan has his counterfeit. He always has had false profits and certainly we may expect them now in this last hour of deception and triumph. Those who reject such special revelations because the counterfeit exists may with equal propriety go a little farther and deny that God ever refilled themsel.

00:32:16.669 - 00:32:38.899 Soft to man and a dream or a vision for the counterfeit always existed. Dreams and visions are the medium through which God has revealed himself to man. Through this medium, he spaked to the prophets and he is placed the gift to prophecy among the gifts of the gospel church, and has class dreams and visions with the other signs of the last days, a men. My.

00:32:38.899 - 00:33:05.519 The object in the above remark has been to remove objections in the scriptural manner and prepare the mind of the reader for the following James White 1850 and then the following was William miller's drain. So just a couple more quotes. The very excuse me, the very last deception of Satan will be to make them non affect the testimony of the spirit of God.

00:33:05.519 - 00:33:25.519 Where there is NO vision to people perish. St. will work congeniusly in different ways into different agencies to unsettle the confidence of God's remnant people in the true testimony. He will bring in spurious visions to mislead and will mingle the false with the true. Now this is a point that I will wanna make.

00:33:25.519 - 00:33:42.719 He'll mingle the false with the true, and when he does so, he shall so disgust people that they will regard everything that bears the names of visions as the species of fanaticism. But honest souls by contrasting false with true will.

00:33:42.719 - 00:33:58.409 Being able to distinguish between them. So there's abundant testimony here in what we've read this morning that we have to be able to distinguish between false and true dreams and visions in this time period.

00:33:58.409 - 00:34:18.409 Because this is the time period where the true dreams and visions are gonna manifest in this time period, in the judgment of the living, when Peter says repent either foreign be converted for the times of refreshing show come and Peter's perfect fulfillment is now. To repent, you have to be alive and the.

00:34:18.409 - 00:34:35.549 Things that Peter's talking about being blotted out is being blotted out on living people in the judgment of the living. Dreams and visions will manifest among God's people and false dreams and visions will manifest as well. And our responsibility.

00:34:35.549 - 00:34:53.249 On this path to heaven is to distinguish between the true and the false and if that's our responsibility and if it is something that the Lord expects of us, if we're gonna pass this test, well, how'd she say it? I'm gonna screen up here.

00:34:53.249 - 00:35:13.249 The day of, the God's pirit will pass by those who have had their day of test and opportunity, but who have not distinguished the voice of God or appreciated his spirit in the time period where the Lord is getting ready to pass by the foolish virgins.

00:35:13.249 - 00:35:34.429 And seal the wise versions in the very last days, the the people that gets passed by fail to understand and recognize the distinction between true and false visions. And the false will be mingled.

00:35:34.429 - 00:35:58.139 With the true, and it has multiple ramifications that not only will lead some of the wise versions into death, but those people that had opportunity to respond to the message of the wise versions will be so disgusted with these false dreams and visions.

00:35:58.139 - 00:36:14.429 The fanaticism that they'll throw out the baby with the bathwater and they'll reject the message. We're on the time period where we believe the midnight cry is about to be proclaimed, and in Milleride history it says like a tidy of the movement swept over the land.

00:36:14.429 - 00:36:31.589 It went until the warning people of God were fully aroused. Anazacism disappeared before this proclamation like early ross frost before the rising sun.

00:36:31.589 - 00:36:51.589 Believers saw their down in perplexity removed and hope and courage animated their hearts. The work was free from those extremes which are ever manifested when there is human excitement without the controlling influence of the word in spirit of God. It was similar in character to those seasons of humiliation in returning into the Lord which.

00:36:51.589 - 00:37:11.589 Among ancient Israel followed messages of reproof from his servants. It bore the characteristics that marked the work of God in every age. There was little ecstatic joy, but rather a deep searching of heart confession of sand and foresaking of the world of preparation to meet the Lord was the burden of agonizing spirits. There was.

00:37:11.589 - 00:37:37.139 Perseverian prayer prayer and unreserved consecration to God. The if if you step back from this, she's from what we've read here today, as we approach the time period where the exoder camp meeting is the symbol that we're gonna go from exoder and proclaim the message of the midnight cry. From exoder onward, fanatism disappears.

00:37:37.139 - 00:37:57.139 The message is too solom, it's too accurate, it's too empowered by the Holy spirit. Fanaticism dies off, but fonaticism, it gets introduced in the the period just before the separation of the wise and foolish, and in that period.

00:37:57.139 - 00:38:17.989 Period, we get passed by if we don't have the ability to see the distinction between the false and the true manifestations of the spirit of God. So the idea that yesterday, some of us have gotten not our faith wasn't shaken, but we got shaken by the.

00:38:17.989 - 00:38:36.630 The idea that we're here, having morning worship and suddenly we are considering time setting again after being beat up so bad about time setting in 2020. This is the period that we're in.

00:38:36.630 - 00:38:53.730 And we've been coasting along, in theory I'm saying we've been coasting along looking at the prophetic message being developed by the lion of the tribe about Judah and yesterday the lion of the Tribe of Judith said, alright now, it's it's time to put on.

00:38:53.730 - 00:39:11.640 Your boots and start getting ready for the warfare that's about to take place and you're in a history where there's gonna be a genuine manifestation of the outpouring of the Holy Spirit as in former days, a glorious manifestation of the power of God.

00:39:11.640 - 00:39:28.950 And in that history, just before the separation of the wise and foolish takes place, your test is going to include your ability to discern between the true and false manifestations of the spirit of God.

00:39:28.950 - 00:39:48.950 Now, Clayton was telling me yesterday it's so true but when he and I interact, I use Isaiah 08:20, you know, I use it pretty, pretty much as a a sword on lots of issues.

00:39:48.950 - 00:40:15.960 And he knows it, you know, he's grown up around me, so he throwed this at me. He says, to the law and the testimony if they speak not according to this word is because there's NO light in them, ok? So let's put this in contact bind up the testimony, seal the law of my among my disciples. This is in the ceiling time. This is in our history that the the binding up of the testimony is the ceiling of the law.

00:40:15.960 - 00:40:31.260 Among his disciples. This is the binding of the wheat to be lifted up as the, the wheat offering while the tears are being put in bundles for the fires of destruction. Bind up the testimony seal the law among my disciples.

00:40:31.260 - 00:40:46.740 And I will wait up on the Lord that hide us his face from the house of Jacob and I will look for him. Behold, I am the children whom the Lord have given me are for signs and wonders in Israel from the Lord of hosts, which dwellowth and Mount Zion.

00:40:46.740 - 00:41:02.640 And when they shall say into you, now this is the the same story I've been putting forth here about a time period when true and false manifestations of the spirit are gonna take place. It's in the ceiling time in this passage.

00:41:02.640 - 00:41:21.810 And it's saying there are gonna be signs and wonders in Israel from the Lord of host. But at the same time it says and when they shall say until you seek unto them that have familiar spirits and undowizards that peep and that mother should not appeal seeken to their God for the living to the dead.

00:41:21.810 - 00:41:37.770 To the law and to the testimony if they speak nodding according to this word, it is because there's NO light in them. Isaiah 08:16 through 20. So Clayton's point to me was, is it.

00:41:37.770 - 00:41:57.770 If someone's not speaking to the law and the testimony then, and this is how I've taught it to him, then you have NO justification for listening to anything that they say, but that isn't really what I am meant when I've drilled that into Clayton's head or anyone's head. I I, I believe that.

00:41:57.770 - 00:42:21.410 100 wholeheartedly, but there is another element of it and it's to me it's in Jeremiah 15. It is a clear example of it. The words were found that's 11 August 1840, it's 09:11. It's when any angel's message arrives, he has a message in his hands. So 2nd angel in our history arrived in July 18.

00:42:21.410 - 00:42:39.930 Then he had a message. But Jeremiah here is talking about the message of the 1st angel that was empowered on 11 August 1840 to find 09:11, it says the eye words were found and I did eat them and the word wasn't to me the joy and rejoicing of mine heart. When you have God's word.

00:42:39.930 - 00:42:54.930 You have joy and joicing when you realize you don't really have god's words, you're ashamed. For I'm called by by name Germiast identifying a people that are coming into a covenant relationship with the Lord because.

00:42:54.930 - 00:43:14.930 Their name has changed to God's name, oh Lord God of host. I set not in the assembly of mockers nor rejoice. He was separated from, Apost protestinism who rejected the millerwrite message at the 1st angeles or the disappointment, the 1st disappointment in April 19.

00:43:14.930 - 00:43:38.790 1844 and he said alone after 18 July 2020, the assembly of Mockers is the former covenant people, whether it's the protestants of milleride history or adventism of our history and he's not rejoicing. There's NO joy because their prophecy of the 1st disappointment in either cases failed. They don't have that joy.

00:43:38.790 - 00:43:58.790 They're ashamed. I set alone because of the hand. Now his hand, held, was held over the 1843 charts, so they didn't see the mistake in the figures and then, when he removed his hands, Samuel Snow understood the figures and prove put.

00:43:58.790 - 00:44:22.620 Together the midnight crime message and when it all reached its conclusion, there's the Lord's hand again on 22 October in revelation ten verse six swearing that time is NO longer and on 18 July, we passed by that hand. His hand was there.

00:44:22.620 - 00:44:42.620 In our 1st disappointment, just like it was there in the Milleright 1st disappointment, but his hand and our disappointment was the hand of revelation ten six times should be NO longer and we were in rebellion and we set alone because of the high hand for three and a half days dead in the street.

00:44:42.620 - 00:44:59.880 Ford Thou has filled me with indignation and I tell you, after the disappointment and even the the chaos that was going up on in this movement leading to the disappointment, it it was a, a psychological trauma, I guess is the way to say it.

00:44:59.880 - 00:45:15.720 And yesterday those feelings that are associated with the psychological tra trauma, they came up on me. Maybe NO one else maybe felt anything like that, but I did. And you know, I once again.

00:45:15.720 - 00:45:35.720 You know, I see myself as anyway, Jeremiah says, why is my pain perpetual, my wound in care about which refuses to be healed, will that be all together unto me as a liar as water as it fell. The, the leading of the spirit ended at the 1st disappointment.

00:45:35.720 - 00:46:01.380 And the lie, of course, God doesn't lie, but it connects with hebacic's tables. Therefore, let's say at the lord. If thou will return after the 1st disappointment, then will I bring the again and now she'll stand before me. If you can make it through the, the pain and suffering of the 1st disappointment of 18 July or 19 April and 1844.

00:46:01.380 - 00:46:21.380 You will stand before the lord, if you return, but there's another if in there. If though take forth the precious from the vial thou should be as my mouth, and the the taking the precious from the the vial is separated.

00:46:21.380 - 00:46:41.380 Another way to say that is separating the wheat from the chaff, and that's what a miller does. That's what William Miller's name means at one level. He's a miller. He's, he takes the wheat, he separates the wheat and chaff, he grinds it and he makes the bread to feed the people. We have a responsibility in this time period if we're going to be at.

00:46:41.380 - 00:47:00.210 As God's mouth down here as an inside, there's some kind of work that takes place of separating the wheat from the chaff, and I'm saying that work is what the line of the triber Judith focuses, focused us in on yesterday. He tested us.

00:47:00.210 - 00:47:17.670 Do we really love him? Are we going to truly repent for setting time in in 2020 or are we going to be attempted to do it all over again, in spite of.

00:47:17.670 - 00:47:37.670 What we should have learned from that, and if we're gonna be his mouth, then we're gonna have a work of separating the precious from the vial and that work we've already defined in these passages is the ability to make the distinction between the false and the true manifestations of the spirit because we're.

00:47:37.670 - 00:48:04.190 On the verge of the outpoint of the Holy Spirit. We're teaching it consistently through these past few years and to think that it isn't gonna happen is this, you know, denial of what we've been teaching, but to think that when these prophecies of Joel are fulfilled in our day, that we're just gonna sit back and watch is wrongheaded thinking we're gonna, this is our testing process.

00:48:04.190 - 00:48:24.300 Is to show, that we have the ability to make these distinctions. Now, when I was looking at some things yesterday, I only have a couple more quotes and I'm running out of time, but I only have a couple more quotes. This here, is about 80 jones.

00:48:24.300 - 00:48:44.300 And 80 Jones was privately teaching some kind of variation on acts that everyone was gonna receive the gift of prophecy based upon acts, and I'll read it here. A sister in a letter to her friend speaks with much enthusiast.

00:48:44.300 - 00:49:08.940 Of a statement of brother Jones that sister White has seen that the time has come when if we hold the right relation to God, all can have the gift of prophecy to the same extent as do those who are now having visions. And when she's saying brother Jones, there's another brother Jones back there in that history. I'm pretty sure this is 80 Jones, but that isn't the issue.

00:49:08.940 - 00:49:25.560 Jones is here, has taught privately and he in in the context when you go stayed out, he didn't want it to go public, but people were listening to him and they wrote it down and it started spreading and sister White.

00:49:25.560 - 00:49:40.980 She's gonna say this was a bunch of nonsense, but she defines what she says a bunch of nonsense. She says all can have the gift of prophecy to the same extent as those, as do those who are now having visions.

00:49:40.980 - 00:49:56.970 She's standing against the idea that all of the hundred and 44000 are gonna have the same kind of office as a profit that sister White have had and.

00:49:56.970 - 00:50:16.970 I think the passage in Joel that Jones was using to make his claims does have a way to be fulfilled that does not deny this statement of sister Y, there is going to be a way that the gift of prophecy is manifest.

00:50:16.970 - 00:50:47.210 Tested in every one of the hundred and 44000, but not to the extent of Ellen White, ok? And not not to the extent that they're all having dreams and visions even. The the way that the spirit of prophecy is gonna be manifested in every one of the hundred and 44000 is with the methodology of lineup online that allows them to rightly divide the word of truth and understand the message for themselves individually and corporate.

00:50:47.210 - 00:51:07.920 Where is the authority for this statement, sister who I ask? I must believe that the sister failed to understand brother Jones, but I cannot think that he made that's the statement, that writer continues. Brother Jones said last night, that is the case. Not that God will speak to all for the benefit of everyone else.

00:51:07.920 - 00:51:23.610 But each, but for each to his own benefit and this will fulfill the prophecy of Joel, he, he stated that this is already being developed in numerous instances. He spoke as if he thought none would hold such a leading position.

00:51:23.610 - 00:51:43.610 As sweet sister White done or will still do referred to Moses as a parallel. He was a leader, but many others are referred to as prophesign through prophecies though their prophecies are not published. He brothered Jones will not give permission to have the matter copied for general circulation that has been read here from some sisters. These ideas.

00:51:43.610 - 00:52:03.610 State this in relation to prophesying, I do not hesitate to say might better never have been expressed. Such statements prepare the way for a state of things that Satan will surely take advantage to bring in serious exercises. Why did I put that in place?

00:52:03.610 - 00:52:25.310 Because, I think that the the way that we're gonna walk through the last day of events safely as the hundred and 44000 is because we understand those last day events and we understand them based upon the.

00:52:25.310 - 00:52:46.620 Methodology of the latterraine, which is line up online and in that sense, we will all have the gift of prophecy, but not everyone is going to be writing books, having dreams and visions, sending out testimonies of rebuke or however you want to define such a whitest ministry, that was a.

00:52:46.620 - 00:53:06.090 A different manifestation than what Moses may or may not have been referring to that Peter quotes in acts. So for yesterday, and I'm, this is the last quote, it's better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in man.

00:53:06.090 - 00:53:25.080 My comment on comments on yesterday's begin as here, one person yesterday in the conversation, they concluded as we begin to to discuss whether.

00:53:25.080 - 00:53:44.550 The dreams associated with the prophetic message were valid or not. They, they don't I don't want to put this on that person, but as I understood it, I have to say something about it. They, they set aside their personal responsibility.

00:53:44.550 - 00:54:04.550 To fulfill this statement up here that I've already referred to once, it must be it But I speak now my own words when I say that God's Spirit will pass by those who have had their day of test and opportunity, but who.

00:54:04.550 - 00:54:27.990 You have not distinguished the voice of God or appreciated the movings of his spirit. You'll fail that test if you think that you can trust my discernment. You will fail that test. This this time period is a time period where we're each, there's a couple places where sister White says.

00:54:27.990 - 00:54:47.990 If God has ever spoken by me, the time will come when we must stand alone. And in this time period when the Lord has obviously providentially brought us back to ask us three times or I don't know if you can ask us three times, but he did Peter love us down me.

00:54:47.990 - 00:55:12.600 Because Peter had denied him on 18 July 2020 and what he denied him on was time setting. And on Sabath, the brethren in Africa brought up time setting and and it's an old one. We are all familiar with it. You know, 4000 takes you to the 4000 years takes you to the time period of Christ and sister weight says 2000 years.

00:55:12.600 - 00:55:32.600 And 6000 years of sin leads to the 7th sabath threst of the earth in the millennium. Crisis baptized in 27 AD. Here we're approaching 2027 2000 years later. You put all the math together. 2027 is that's set and that's when the Lord's.

00:55:32.600 - 00:55:56.370 Going to return even though we don't know the day and hour, and then the next day on worship, we get another implication of knowing the day and hour directly per claim day and hour. And to me the Lord is saying that we're in this testing time now, where he is about to manifest outpouring of his Holy Spirit.

00:55:56.370 - 00:56:16.370 In those only that can distinguish between the true and the false manifestation of the spirits that is about to take place that we've been forewarned, there's a lot of ways that they can fail the test, but one of the ways is that, well, I'll just see which way Jeff Pippinger goes, ok? Bad idea.

00:56:16.370 - 00:56:36.840 Yeah, do you have to place your trust into the Lord, not in any man. In fact, this, the way I've understood it and others have this particular verse, others teach this too, and I'm sure it's correct is that we can't even put our confidence in our own flesh.

00:56:36.840 - 00:56:55.410 And so, the, that's one thing I wanted to say about yesterday. Anyone that was picking and choosing on who had the better argument or whatever is making a mistake a deadly mistake.

00:56:55.410 - 00:57:17.453 This is, this is the testing time for you and me and all of us as individuals and the test is, can we hear the voice of the lord? Do we discern it between all the other voices that are out there? And then the other, the other thing, and this is the one that I, that I've.

00:57:17.453 - 00:57:20.468 I want to put in the record, is it.

00:57:20.468 - 00:57:49.110 As I understood it and believe me, I was sort of laborgacided about where we ended up yesterday when we had the three one combination down here and then a couple lines here and a couple lines here. This was defined as 1111 and that this was the feast of tabernackles. That right there, brothers and sisters.

00:57:49.110 - 00:58:04.560 That destroys everything that we've been teaching for the past three years, because yesterday it was eleven one according to this presentation, and this is the ten day test, maybe the.

00:58:04.560 - 00:58:22.050 Maybe you can plug in there the ten days of the upper room, but back here, I forget the date that was back here, but whatever it was, this here is the end of the road. This was a feast of trumpets.

00:58:22.050 - 00:58:40.710 That's the end of the road for the close of probation for for us and the it's just it's, it is not, it's not an agreement with what we've been laying out in terms.

00:58:40.710 - 00:58:57.390 Of the sequence of end time events, the, the issue that confronts here is an issue that separates the wise and foolicianness movement, but the whole world sees it too.

00:58:57.390 - 00:59:13.560 This is where the, the story of Joel comes in about who's gonna have joy and who's gonna be ashamed and who's gonna be identified as not given a warning and holding to a peace and safety message. That hasn't happened, that distinction.

00:59:13.560 - 00:59:30.000 So for me, I can't accept yesterday's presentation on two points, a minimum of two points, probably three, that.

00:59:30.000 - 00:59:45.330 Once again, we're setting a day and a time and an hour. And, and also I I don't think it squares up with what we've been teaching about the feast of tabernacles and the way marks that proceeded.

00:59:45.330 - 01:00:05.330 And I think that it was the mixture of the human personal testimony with the prophetic message is, is dangerous and I'm the 1II am one that probably shouldn't be saying that because often.

01:00:05.330 - 01:00:34.920 I mix my personal testimony in with the prophetic message but unfortunately I don't know how to do it any other way. We all know what I'm saying about the role that I've had. But we've watched in the years. I there was a time where we counted how many people identified themselves as Samuel Snow and it was, there was a whole handful of Samuel Samuel snows.

01:00:34.920 - 01:00:51.120 And they would incorporate their personal testimony into their prophetic message and it anyway, that, that is questionable as well. But I can't help but see that.

01:00:51.120 - 01:01:07.440 This was the Lord's Providence that he he's given us a wake up call that the sequence of events that we're seeing in the prophetic message is sound. There's still areas that we need to understand that he's still gonna open up.

01:01:07.440 - 01:01:27.440 But we need need now to start exercising the discernment that is developed from these prophetic applications because we're in that testing time to where the test includes our ability to distinguish between.

01:01:27.440 - 01:01:45.510 In the precious in the vial and separate the wheat from the chaff. So that I did not, I know that we left yesterday on the premise that Dan was still was gonna do at least another one on his.

01:01:45.510 - 01:02:03.720 And I've seen that he was on here this morning. I'm not trying to be as careful as possible with everyone involved, but I, you served his his presentation this morning cause I had to put this in the public record for us that are on this, meeting and.

01:02:03.720 - 01:02:22.260 I went to look, this is a closing thing I'll say and I'll open it up for some comments if you want, but I, when I was looking at these things, I went to Anna Phillips. And the reason I went to Anna Phillips and I, and then I said I won't use Anna Phillips because Anna Phillips, she didn't, she's not associated with dreams. She had false visions.

01:02:22.260 - 01:02:42.030 But the reason I went and looked at Anna Phillips hoping that she had false dreams, that we could pull it in to consider that maybe some of the dreams that Dan had has gotten a little bit off course, was that Anna Phillips is one of the people in early.

01:02:42.030 - 01:03:00.090 Advent history that was the, the point of reference for a fanaticism that came in. But she's the one in that history that received correction through the spirit of prophecy and the elders turned it around and became a.

01:03:00.090 - 01:03:20.090 You know, a faithful seven day admin is thereafter and that's, that was that has to be our approach to the people that are involved with this thing is that if their dreams are dubious and are leading to.

01:03:20.090 - 01:03:45.830 To a false message, we have to identify those dreams as a false message, but we have to work to see the redemption of Ana Phillips repeated in their history as well. So, I, I never thought that we would be doing that this this week, but I can't help but think that it was the Lord's prop.

01:03:45.830 - 01:03:59.797 Evidence. I've taken the hour for worship, I'll take 10 min for questions comments, and observations. Brother John.

01:03:59.797 - 01:04:36.116 This presentation my brother Jeff, thank you for this presentation. It's wonderful. I believe we are all gonna come out stronger for this and you know personally I, I would say that for myself, absolutely stronger and if this is what we're gonna be presented with in the near future is the spirit of privacy has has made clear, I think it's a blessing in the long run, then thank you once again.

01:04:36.116 - 01:04:51.780 Thank you, John. John.

01:04:51.780 - 01:05:11.780 I I'll close with prayer here. I don't see any hands. I emailed brother Dan yesterday and he emailed, he emailed me back and, I just told him I don't know exactly what to pray for, but what I'm praying is that, you know, we promise that when we don't know what to pray for, that the Holy Spirit will intercede for him.

01:05:11.780 - 01:05:32.360 And when this situation, there's so many various dynamics with what took place and worship yesterday, and I'm saying that in a very limited sense, I don't, maybe everyone left worship yesterday morning and never thought about it again until they come this.

01:05:32.360 - 01:05:56.610 Morning, but it caused a turmoil for, for me and I assumed it did for others but the only the only the piece that I have about it is to think that yesterday was a you know anything other than the lord's leading is inconsistent.

01:05:56.610 - 01:06:11.730 With what I've been personally been witnessing in the Lord's leading over the past three years, he's been directing everything, the fact that this comes in at this time and it's kind of out of the blue, I certainly didn't know that's where the presentation was going yesterday.

01:06:11.730 - 01:06:30.360 The only way I can relate to that is that, hey, this was, this was the Lord's will, and we've discussed this the quote where sister White says if other means fail, the Lord will allow Harrisees to come in among us in order to force God's people to study. And I'm not saying any Harrissey came in among us, but.

01:06:30.360 - 01:06:47.340 Yesterday is a, is a flag to get ready for this period of testing that has to do with the manifestation of the spirit of God and the counterfeit.

01:06:47.340 - 01:07:02.155 Let's close with Para. Can I say something? Oh, ok. I I didn't hear you. I hear you now, Larry? Yeah.

01:07:02.155 - 01:07:24.750 Good morning. Good morning. I just wanted to say, I I recognize the sensitivity of what happened yesterday from many different levels. But I just, just so you're aware, I talked to several people and it was a lot of people were I shouldn't say a lot of people I didn't talk to a lot of people. I talked to a handful of people.

01:07:24.750 - 01:07:45.890 But it was very difficult what happened yesterday for most people you weren't alone. I'll say that the start. But I do, I also do agree that this is absolutely a test on discernment. And, as you said, I I'm, I don't want anyone to be lost because.

01:07:45.890 - 01:08:05.190 Because of what happened yesterday Dan or anybody was listening. But I agree in alignment with what you just laid down with Trumpets and tabernackles, we're almost forced because I believe Trumpets is where.

01:08:05.190 - 01:08:25.190 We're at when we talk about Nashville midnight cry. And if you put that in the line there, tabernackles would have to be 2nd coming. And if we're doing a day and an hour at tabernackles, we are going directly against the say of the lord.

01:08:25.190 - 01:08:44.040 Don't see how you could see that any other way. And I just say that so that so that we're clear that I'm clear anyway of why I'm seeing this line cannot be accurate, and I'm saying that in hopes that, that.

01:08:44.040 - 01:09:02.280 Dan sees that, and that it's Asikiel threes commended us to be Watchman on the walls, Illinois tells us that if a brother is in air, we should meet it, not meaning that we meet it to destroy the brother but to save the brother.

01:09:02.280 - 01:09:19.560 I believe we have the responsibility to say something. That's why I'm talking right now because I, because I believe it's a test and I just went.

01:09:19.560 - 01:09:39.560 Everyone that's been tested to come out the other side without falling prey to this test, whether it's the folks that the the the brother that you were talking about, he was trying to have people come in. I mean I've been I've invited some people to these meetings as well. They weren't here either, but if they had been here.

01:09:39.560 - 01:09:58.860 It could have been, I would have had a whole thing to have to deal with with those people. And so, yeah, there's other things that I could point to that I feel like were, were not accurate as well, but to me that in and of itself is.

01:09:58.860 - 01:10:13.950 So clear to me that that we are literally in this line that's been drawn, predicting a day in an hour of the return of Christ, which the Bible is explicitly clear about and and I, I recognize.

01:10:13.950 - 01:10:33.390 And Illinois says the hundred and 44000 will know the day in the hour, but the way that I've understood that is this is just before his return, after every everybody's been, after everyone has been judged, the ceiling is done and, and there's, it's not a prophetic message.

01:10:33.390 - 01:10:49.552 It's a, just a fact of matter and so that's my thoughts and my take on it in in a short order, I don't wanna keep us either but if that's that's my.

01:10:49.552 - 01:11:08.960 What you were, what you were saying there, I I was gonna take a little bit of time on that, but I was, it would have made made too much too big of a presentation, but i'll throw it out real real quickly. When you go in and you look at the pioneer understanding for their justification for saying that they.

01:11:08.960 - 01:11:34.850 You could know the day and hour and and you look at it, what, what people failed or to recognize is that was their biblical justification before Illin White was a prophetus. Okay, they're, they're working on a, on biblical passages that let them see that, yeah, there is a point in time when the day and hour is announced, but they haven't the slightest idea.

01:11:34.850 - 01:12:04.880 Yeah, what, what way mark that's at? And then sister White comes on the scene, and this is where adventisms opened up to a really detailed illustration of 2nd coming of class preceded by the seven last plagues that starts when human probation closes, and when sister White gets into the special resurrection in Daniel twelve and the the ending of the seven last time the plague time period just before the return of Christ and.

01:12:04.880 - 01:12:31.850 And the lord's speaking the covenant, it's there, ok? So the pioneers didn't have that point of reference that came through the inspiration of Ellen White that the announcement of the day and hour takes place well after probations closed and just before 2nd coming. So the pioneers could use their biblical arguments and it would be acceptable because they were only.

01:12:31.850 - 01:13:00.634 They were living up to the light that they had. But as 7th day adveniss, we're NO longer, we should NO longer use those pioneer arguments about the day in an hour because we have the light of the spirit of prophecy and we know the day and hour has been marked in the Spirit of prophecy as taking place just before the return of Christ well after the close of human probation.

01:13:00.634 - 01:13:28.337 Yeah, it's actually in the arguments of the articles of Samuel Snow. He makes that argument of the pioneers in, in those articles about that. I'm I just pulled it up to look at it because that's exactly the argument they make and they use Paul and 1st Corinthians too. Is their argument and so, yeah, amen, I agree with what you just said.

01:13:29.070 - 01:13:49.070 Well, we need to pray that we all past this test, but 1st I think we have to settle into the idea whether we really believe that this is part of the testing process and we're in it. And if we believe that, then we need to take seriously what's going on and pray that the Lord will give us discernment to go.

01:13:49.070 - 01:14:06.420 Go through these, this period, but we also need to be lifting brother Dan up in prayer. This gotta be a hard one for him, and trust that the Lord that called him out of the world so long ago is gonna finish the work and him that he began.

01:14:06.420 - 01:14:22.710 And, and who I, anyway, I was gonna say something to Larry, but I'll take it up later. I'm gonna have a closing prayer and end this. So ok.

01:14:22.710 - 01:14:38.940 Heavenly father, we, we thank you that you're allowing us to see that we're just that much closer to the close of probation and that you're trying to awaken us to a.

01:14:38.940 - 01:14:57.660 A time period that is distinctly different than we've been living in in this layer to see in a history that each of us was born into and that the manifestation of your power is about to take place and you have informed us.

01:14:57.660 - 01:15:15.090 That the counterfeit of manifestation of power precedes the true, so we're in the time period when both are there and we want to pass this test of separating the precious from the vial and we want to pass this test in terms of.

01:15:15.090 - 01:15:32.100 Possessing your character and we know that your character is built around the fact that you died for every man and we do not want to lose a soul because of our inability to empathize.

01:15:32.100 - 01:15:48.420 With mistakes, and so we we place it all in your hands and ask that he blesses to stay and bring us back tomorrow to study again and we thank you for these things in Jesus name. Amen.