November 5, 2026

00:01:00.000 - 00:01:21.300 Good morning, everyone, brother Larry is going to go over the way marks of Samuel Snow and the midnight cry. Message this morning, probably tomorrow as well.

00:01:21.300 - 00:01:40.020 And align it with, that history with our history or I'm not sure exactly how he's gonna approach his study, but, the, the information the top is simply an overview of Milleride history.

00:01:40.020 - 00:01:55.620 The time they end until 1863, and underneath it with the blank box boxes, that's what I'm gonna fill in as a Larry's teaching is what he understands about this history.

00:01:55.620 - 00:02:12.420 And I'll begin now with a close of prayer or a close of prayer with an opening prayer and then turn it over to the hurry. Heavenly Father, we thank you for bringing us together this morning. Thank you for another day of life, thank you for.

00:02:12.420 - 00:02:28.200 Allowing us to live in the time that the prophets and the righteous men belong to be in. It's not quite how I imagined it. I I understood from prophecy.

00:02:28.200 - 00:02:47.430 That the empire of the United States would crumble in this history but to actually be living in an empire that is falling apart is pretty profound, pretty, pretty, solemn, there's the word.

00:02:47.430 - 00:03:07.430 We ask that you let this, the celemnity of this hour convict us of our need of preparation, our need of your spirit. We ask for your spirit, we ask that you would pull your latterraine on up on us. As you've commanded us to do to pray for the latterraine in the time of the latterraine, and we also.

00:03:07.430 - 00:03:25.500 Take the promise that's is recorded in the spirit of prophecy that when the crisis in the nation in the church arrives, the light is given for that time and we are expecting that light in.

00:03:25.500 - 00:03:40.650 Agreement with the outpouring of the latterraine to arrive at this time. Please open our eyes that we can see it, that we can understand it, and that it can perform a miracle in its that we would be changed fully into your image.

00:03:40.650 - 00:04:00.270 I'm Prepared to be lifted up as an inside and prepared to to give a faithful warning to those that we have a responsibility to give the warning to. Pray that you would guide Larry's thoughts his presentation this morning, we thank you for all these things.

00:04:00.270 - 00:04:16.410 In Jesus name, Amen. Brother Larry, I'm gonna turn it over to you. I intend to fill in these blank bo boxes down here.

00:04:16.410 - 00:04:32.249 As you go along, and you may have, a way mark in there or two I don't know, more than I have prepared for you and if so, I'll I'll deal with that. So, it's your time now Larry. Thank you.

00:04:32.249 - 00:04:38.964 Hey man, can you hear me? I can hear you. Okay, excellent.

00:04:38.964 - 00:05:08.959 Well, I just want to start by saying I I'm open for correction for any of these things, it's it's, if somebody, if I say something wrong, please feel free to correct me. I thought the the 1st thing that I would do is read some quotes from Spirit Prophancing to give some framework of why the midnight cry would even be something we would consider, which I'm sure everyone knows why, but to put it into the.

00:05:08.959 - 00:05:36.362 Heard at the beginning of the study, so from great controversy, 393394, Ellen White is talking about the 1st angel's message in, in the context of of the bridegroom coming, and so it says the coming of Christ as announced by the 1st Angels message, was understood. I'll give you a sec.

00:05:36.362 - 00:05:40.262 No, you can go, yeah.

00:05:40.262 - 00:05:56.969 The coming of Christ as announced by the 1st angel's message was understood to be represented by the coming of the bridegroom. The widespread reformation under the proclamation of his soon coming, answering to the going forth of the virgins, in this parable.

00:05:56.969 - 00:06:16.969 As in that of Matthew 2042 classes are represented. All had taken their lamps, the bible, and by its light had gone forth to meet the bridegroom while the bridegroom terry, they all slumbered and slept. By the tearing of the bridegroom is represented the passing of the time when the Lord was expected, the disappointment and the seeming delay.

00:06:16.969 - 00:06:39.656 So this is after the 1st disappointment, they're in the terrian time and yeah so that's kind of the framework that she's setting up that this, this is the midnight cry message that they're in. So then I would go to manuscript 32 1896.

00:06:39.656 - 00:06:44.883 There's this. Give me some, give me some keywords. Sure.

00:06:44.883 - 00:06:58.110 Probably the 1st, second, and 3rd angels messages has been located by the word of inspiration.

00:06:58.110 - 00:07:09.460 Okay, so this is also in that's it right there. Selected messages. Yeah, but go ahead.

00:07:09.460 - 00:07:34.079 So the proclamation of the 1st, second, and 3rd angeless messages has been located by the word of inspiration, not a peg or pin is to be removed. No human authority has any more right to change the location of these messages than to substitute the New Testament for the old. The old Testament is the gospel and figures and symbols. The New Testament is the substance. One is as essential as the other. The old Testament.

00:07:34.079 - 00:07:54.079 Presents lessons from the lips of Christ and these lessons have not lost their force in any particular. The 1st and second messages were given in 1843 and 44, and we are now under the proclamation of the 3rd, but all three of the messages are still to be proclaimed. It is just as essential now as ever before that they should.

00:07:54.079 - 00:08:21.569 Shall be repeated to those who are seeking for the truth. By pin and voice, we are to sound the proclamation showing their order and the application of the prophecies that bring us to the 3rd angel's message. There cannot be a 3rd without a 1st and a second. These messages, we are to give to the world in publications and discourses showing in the line of prophetic history the things that have been and the things that will be. So.

00:08:21.569 - 00:08:41.609 As we're thinking about the midnight crime and what we're experiencing, we also know, and I don't have this written down, but we know that the pairable that's in virgins has been and will be fulfilled to the very letter. And so when we think about the proclamation of the 1st and second angels message in my mind.

00:08:41.609 - 00:08:58.499 That would automatically bring me down to Daniel 1140, and this is the, I don't know, the foundation of our, of Daniel 1140 to 45, is kind of the foundation of of our movement.

00:08:58.499 - 00:09:18.499 And so, when we're considering the 1st and second angel's message, it's prudent to look at the miller right line and to proclaim the miller right line, but we have to understand the time of the end, and if we don't understand the time of the end, we're gonna struggle with how we.

00:09:18.499 - 00:09:37.949 We understand what Ellen White just said. Many people take those verses and they try to make them that we're in the 3rd angel's messages and we're not gonna repeat those patterns. But if we go to Daniel 1140, and at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him.

00:09:37.949 - 00:09:52.949 Semicolon, and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind with cheriots and with horseman and with many ships and he shall enter into the countries and shall overflow and pass over, so.

00:09:52.949 - 00:10:14.189 The way that I understand this text and and everyone here, I'm sure understands the text the same way as at the time of the end. There's two different timeframes in this text. You have the 1st one which is when the king of the south pushes at him the king of the north, the papacy. And we'd understand that is 1798, and that's how everyone in aventism would understand it.

00:10:14.189 - 00:10:32.039 But what's missed is that the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind with with Jerry and with horseman. And so we understand that this is when the papacy pushes back against the king of the south. And so we place this in 1989 correctly.

00:10:32.039 - 00:10:48.959 Because this is when the paper sea. With the United States pushes back at the atheism of Russia, the king of the south, the atheism of France that that moved across Europe. And so.

00:10:48.959 - 00:11:05.999 When we're looking at our line and what we're supposed to be proclaiming, it's gonna parallel with what the millerwrite line looks like. So that's, that's the logic of why we're looking at the millerwrite line because it should give us some framework.

00:11:05.999 - 00:11:25.999 Of the, of a line that we can place our line on top of. So, that being said, we also know that the way that the Miller rights came to understand a lot of this stuff the midnight Cryst specifically was they.

00:11:25.999 - 00:11:47.639 Used several different approaches. They were using the 6000 years, they were using the 2300 days. The 2520, they were using the 70 week prophecy. So they used several different histories in the Bible to show how they got to where they're at. The one that.

00:11:47.639 - 00:12:03.179 I'll start with is the 2300 day prophecy. And so probably the best approach to that is to look at Ezra seven.

00:12:03.179 - 00:12:21.269 And when we look at Ezra seven, specifically we can look at Ezra seven nine. It says where upon the 1st day of the 1st month began He to go up from Babelon and on the 1st day of the 5th month came he.

00:12:21.269 - 00:12:39.449 To Jerusalem according to the good hand of his God upon him. So this is the 3rd decree of Artic Zerxies. And Artic Zerxes gives the decree, and when they leave Babelon, they leave on the 1st day of the 1st month. And so we have the 1st day of the 1st month and the 1st day of the 5th month.

00:12:39.449 - 00:12:59.449 So they arrived in jurism on the 1st day of the 5th month under the, in 04:57. So, as we look at the line here, we'd have the 1st day of the 1st.

00:12:59.449 - 00:13:17.523 1st month and the 1st day of the 5th month, 1st day of the 1st month, when we look at our line would bring us to, are you Are you.

00:13:17.523 - 00:13:19.374 I'm I don't know where.

00:13:19.374 - 00:13:22.619 That's April 19 on his on the chart you see there.

00:13:22.619 - 00:13:42.619 April 1918 44 is the 1st day of the of the 1st month. And so the logic is, when William Miller was giving his his message of the 1st angel, they come to a point in time that they're saying it's at the end of 18.

00:13:42.619 - 00:14:04.349 43 and and they also recognize this in the carryittee calendar, so this pushes them into the spring of 44, April 1918 44. And so this is the 1st day of the 1st month, meaning 18 April was the last day of 1843 that they could expect the coming of their lord. And when it didn't arrive, they're in the disappointment.

00:14:04.349 - 00:14:19.799 And so the tearing time, they have their 1st disappointment, they enter into the tearing time. There's a, so.

00:14:19.799 - 00:14:37.199 That's their 1st disappointment, which would run parallel with our 1st disappointment, which is July 1820 20. Now.

00:14:37.199 - 00:14:54.449 Before we add any more dates for our line, we should probably just lay out the rest of the dates or or the midnight cry. So we've got a starting point, so that's 2nd angel's message arrives on April 19.

00:14:54.449 - 00:15:11.339 For them, now let me So you have the 1st day of the 5th month.

00:15:11.339 - 00:15:31.079 Which is, on the line of the miller rights is going to be 21 July 1844. And now we might have to move those around a little bit, so I'm not sure how you wanna place it in your your chart there Jeff, but.

00:15:31.079 - 00:15:47.369 That's when Samuel Snow is gonna speak at the Boston Tabernackle on 21 July 1844. When we read the Spirit of Prophc quote, he makes.

00:15:47.369 - 00:16:06.329 Let me read that one? Let me I thought it was in there let me give you another one if I didn't read it, it's from great controversy 3908. She says in the summer of 1844.

00:16:06.329 - 00:16:26.329 Yep, you got it. In the summer of 1844 midway between the time when it had been 1st thought that the 2300 days would end and the autumn of the same year, to which it was afterward found that they extended the message was perclined.

00:16:26.329 - 00:16:50.149 Named in the very words of scripture behold the bride groom commouth. So my Ellemote here is making a distinction about midnight cry and midway. And so Boston is midway between the 1st disappointment in 22 October 1844. And so we should expect to see a way mark for midway. And there's a lot of confusion over.

00:16:50.149 - 00:17:12.509 For Boston and exitor. When they are recording this history, there's a lot of, they intermix these two events quite a bit. So when you're reading the histories, you have to be careful to make sure that, to understand that, that there's a.

00:17:12.509 - 00:17:27.869 Some confusion over what happened between Boston and exitor. I'll just say that without going into the details about it, but everyone should be aware of that if you go back and you read some of these, these events, which I encourage should be done.

00:17:27.869 - 00:17:45.299 So, also, he's gonna speak just before, let me see here, where's it at?

00:17:45.299 - 00:18:02.279 So when he speaks at Boston and then he's also gonna speak at concord. And for whatever reason, I don't have that date in front of me. Let me grab it. I have it here.

00:18:02.279 - 00:18:23.019 Another spot. I had written that down Anybody knows the date?

00:18:23.019 - 00:18:30.487 When he was at Congoord? Yeah. Let's see here.

00:18:30.487 - 00:18:42.839 Concord will be August one So he's gonna speak at Concord on August the 1st 1844.

00:18:42.839 - 00:19:02.699 So that's kind of the general framework of, of how this gets laid out, but he also wrote some letters that we need to, to put in place and and this gets well before we do that, there's there's a.

00:19:02.699 - 00:19:31.698 There's also, we were, we've been studying a Zekiel and all of these dates, so that's gonna be the concord will be the What date is that one? I don't know hang on, sorry I should have been I wasn't.

00:19:31.698 - 00:19:37.523 So it's alright. We'll we'll we'll exercise patients of the scenes.

00:19:37.523 - 00:19:56.340 Okay, so Boston is the 1st day of the 5th month. Is that what I said? I didn't say that at all, didn't I? So Boston is the 1st day of the 5th month.

00:19:56.340 - 00:20:05.416 You had 19 April as the 1st day of the 1st month. Boston 1st day of 5th month. Yeah.

00:20:05.416 - 00:20:08.100 And then.

00:20:08.100 - 00:20:17.148 And that says there 979. Go ahead. Sorry.

00:20:17.148 - 00:20:33.149 Is that right? I'm trying to make sure I'm saying this right. I have it all written down, but obviously I didn't do my own notes very well.

00:20:33.149 - 00:20:52.859 Yeah Boston is gonna be the 5th day of the 4th month, sorry. And then exoder is gonna be the 1st day of the 5th month.

00:20:52.859 - 00:21:12.029 Yeah. And so we can see this also in Azekiel, so when we're, when we're looking at these lines and we're looking at ezekiel, and Ezekiel's pertinent because Azikiel's talking about.

00:21:12.029 - 00:21:27.329 The, the temple, ezekeel's in the temple. And so if we go to Ezekiel, 2917, you can read that.

00:21:27.329 - 00:21:54.239 Verse one, it says in the 10th year in the 10th month, in the 20 12th day of the month, the Lord of the Lord came into me saying, i'm reading the right one. I'm sorry, 2917. I'm reading one verse 12917.

00:21:54.239 - 00:22:14.219 And it came to pass in the 7th and 20th year in the 1st month, in the 1st day of the month, the word of Lord came onto me saying. So here we see that Ezekiel in this vision is in the 1st day of the 1st month. Son of Man has your Kinga Babelon calls his army to have a great service against tyrus.

00:22:14.219 - 00:22:29.909 Every head was made bold and every shoulder was peeled yet had he NO wages for nor his army or tyrus or the service that he had served against it. So this is, talking about.

00:22:29.909 - 00:22:49.559 Tyris, now Tyrus has mentioned several times, and here we can see Tyrus mentioned, also when we go back to chapter 28 verse one and the word of the Lord came again unto me saying to the prince of Tyris thus say that the Lord God beg.

00:22:49.559 - 00:23:12.884 Because Line heart is lifted up, and now has said, I am a god, I sit in the seat of God in the midst of the seas, yet thou art a man and not a god. God behold art wiser than behold art wiser than Daniel there is NO sex that they can hide from the.

00:23:12.884 - 00:23:14.856 That what's the reference I've I've lost.

00:23:14.856 - 00:23:22.348 And I just one through three. Yep.

00:23:22.348 - 00:23:24.846 Alright, yep so.

00:23:24.846 - 00:23:40.109 So he's making reference back to the 1st day of the 1st month in Tyris being, basically tyrus, is gonna do a service for, for God.

00:23:40.109 - 00:23:55.739 Never Canada king a Babbling caused his army to serve a great service against tyrus. I'm sorry. Babelon does the service of against tyrus. So that places a line of, of, we're gonna look at several of these in Aziki and then it'll make more sense, but.

00:23:55.739 - 00:24:10.739 Also, you can go to verse chapter one verse one, and we're gonna see in azekeel says now it came to pass in the 30th year, and the 4th month and the 5th day of the month.

00:24:10.739 - 00:24:30.739 As I was among the captives by the river of Keybar, that the heavens were opened and I saw visions of God in the 5th day of the month, which was the 5th year of King Joy Kins captivity. So this is the the 4th month, the 5th day, the 5th day of the 4th month. We can see was.

00:24:30.739 - 00:24:49.769 And so this is all kind of implications around chapter one verse one. So this is this is gonna be midway that's referenced in in ISEQL, and then in Ezekiel 2061.

00:24:49.769 - 00:25:10.829 It says, and it came to pass in the 11th year in the 1st day of the month that the word of the Lord came to me. And so this isn't explicitly clear, but if we go back over to.

00:25:10.829 - 00:25:26.519 Chapter 24, verse 24, we'll read down to 27. It says thus is unto you assign according to all that he has done, shall you do.

00:25:26.519 - 00:25:45.509 And when this comethy you shall know that I am the Lord God, also thou son of man shall it not be in the day that I had, that I take from them their strength, the joy of their glory, the desire of their eyes, and that where upon they set their minds, their sons and their daughters.

00:25:45.509 - 00:26:01.649 That he that escapeoth in that day shall come untothee because they to hear it with nine ears. In that day, shall they mouth be open to him which is escaped, and now shall speak, and NO more dumb.

00:26:01.649 - 00:26:21.649 And that shall be assigned unto them and they shall know that I am the lord. So here we see when is Hekiel's dumb and there's gonna be this time frame from the destruction of the temple until he can speak again and it's when this man comes to him, this is 5806 PC.

00:26:21.649 - 00:26:27.980 The temples destroyed. So when we come back over to verse 26, it says that it came to pass in the 11th year.

00:26:27.980 - 00:26:33.362 Yes.

00:26:33.362 - 00:26:45.419 It says, and it came to pass in the 11th year in the 1st day of the month. This is the month coming after, so it's the 1st day of the 5th month.

00:26:45.419 - 00:27:10.649 So, we can see the 1st day of the 5th month in chapter 26. It's a little it's not as straightforward, but, but it's where do we put that? So it's the destruction of the temple, is the 1st day of the, so the 1st day of the 5th month is at exoder?

00:27:10.649 - 00:27:29.879 You have it there already. And so it's gonna be 2061. And then also in his eq O 40 verse one, he's also gonna speak and he says.

00:27:29.879 - 00:27:45.209 In the five and 20th year of our captivity, in the beginning of the year, in the 10th day of the month, and the 14th year after the city was Smitton, in the South same day, the hand of the Lord was upon me and brought me heather.

00:27:45.209 - 00:28:05.209 Mark brought me theather. So here we can see this is, the 10th day of the 7th month. And so this is going to be 22 October 1844 when they're on the 10th day of the 7th month. So we can see in ISEQL this pattern that that Ezekiel's still.

00:28:05.209 - 00:28:22.769 Dealing with these same dates. And so the only reason I'm I'm just trying to put these things in place to start is that we can understand what we're dealing with like what what's actually the logic of this midnight cry message that's going on at their time.

00:28:22.769 - 00:28:40.649 The other thing that I'll mention is when you look at this, this is a, from Ezra seven nine, when you have this decree of the 20 or the of the rebuilding of the temple, this is gonna correspond.

00:28:40.649 - 00:28:58.769 With the 2300 A prophey of Daniel 08:14, and so in danuary 08:14, as we know, that's gonna start in in 04:57. The 2300 days being fulfilled to the very letter.

00:28:58.769 - 00:29:18.769 In the Millorite timeframe, according to Ezra's time frame pattern all the way through. And so, 1st day of the 1st month is 2300 days from the 1st day of the 1st month when the decree went forth to when they arrived, 2300 days from the 1st day of the 5th.

00:29:18.769 - 00:29:39.439 Month, and so you can see this huge witness I mean like if you've never done a study on Ezra seven nine, that's not what we're doing today, but we should definitely be aware that Ezra seven nine gives us a huge witness biblicly for the 2300 days and the line of the miller rights fulfilling.

00:29:39.439 - 00:30:04.369 Straight all the way over to when they they celebrate the the fall feast and you are, you have the, the priest reading the the the law. I I believe you find that in the Amaya if I remember correctly and I don't have that off the top of my head, I don't have that one written down.

00:30:04.369 - 00:30:21.419 If anybody knows that, but my point is saying is, as you have this, this great cloud of witnesses for the 2300 days in this fulfillment of it in, in 2nd angel's message.

00:30:21.419 - 00:30:49.040 1st day the 1st month, 1st day of the 5th month, 10th day of the 7th month from Ezra, so everyone should familiarize themselves with that. Yeah, that one there, and then that one there, yeah, NO, those last two, yep so I guess I would, can I open it up for people to to speak? I just want to make sure everybody's following in that.

00:30:49.040 - 00:30:52.204 However you wanna do it.

00:30:52.204 - 00:31:09.961 Yeah, so if if anybody has any questions about what we've stated so far, I'd open, you know, feel free to ask questions. If everyone's good, if everyone understands that already, then we can continue. The others would.

00:31:09.961 - 00:31:17.778 Ezra seven nine and Ezekiel 41 be identifying the Sunday law?

00:31:17.778 - 00:31:20.897 Isiki or which one did you say?

00:31:20.897 - 00:31:25.360 Is equal 40 verse one and Ezra seven nine.

00:31:25.360 - 00:31:56.339 Yes. Yeah. Okay. The Sunday law. Or it's the, the, the great disappointment of 22 October 1844 where we line up the Sunday law, yeah. The other thing that Ezra does, I'm sorry that same as Snow does, and this is kind of probably more pertinent to what we're, we're, what we want to actually look at because most people probably know this already.

00:31:56.339 - 00:32:26.499 But one of the things that we did in the past is we would write Samuel Snow's letters. So, when we're talking about these things generally and the things that I'm inserting often are Samuel Snow's letters because that's less, a less known thing that Samuel Snow did, but he wrote, he actually wrote several letters, but we typically point to two of them, but he actually wrote letters and I'll, I'll.

00:32:26.499 - 00:32:28.659 When you're saying he wrote letter.

00:32:28.659 - 00:32:31.718 They're published in in the Yeah.

00:32:31.718 - 00:32:35.239 Okay, so they're in publications, you could call them publication.

00:32:35.239 - 00:33:05.099 But alright go ahead. Yeah, so there's two publications that are gonna be published in. The signs of the times, but the signs of the times at that time was was Times's signs of the times, and so it's HST instead of just ST they make a distinction if you look these these up, and also what's the distinction? It's the HST. It's not the signs of the times that we're thinking of for, for.

00:33:05.099 - 00:33:25.099 Seven day adventism or, you know, what happens between the greatest appointment and when they're writing James White is publishing stuff and then and the articles or the the publication that comes later on, but they had a Hims had a signs of the times that they were publishing at this time.

00:33:25.099 - 00:33:56.557 As well. And that was the main sort of publication that that the Miller Rights had that they put into the world, and JB Heimes funded that and he also funded other periodicals, and one of them was known as the midnight cry. And this is where most of Samuel Snows letters are gonna be published. But he wrote an article in 3 November 1842.

00:33:56.557 - 00:33:59.341 So are you going in order now?

00:33:59.341 - 00:34:05.742 Well, it's gonna be before that, April 81844, this isn't 42.

00:34:05.742 - 00:34:08.258 Oh, ok.

00:34:08.258 - 00:34:36.029 So I'll just, I'll give you all the dates before we And these aren't as, as pertinent really, but, but they're there so I'll put them in the record just so they're there so writes a letter in 3 November 1842, and it's published by the signs of the Times HST.

00:34:36.029 - 00:34:56.029 On 16 November 1842 and like I said, if I, you know, say something wrong, feel free to to correct it. Anybody, just raise your hand and make the corrections.

00:34:56.029 - 00:35:06.379 I'm trying to make sure I get these.

00:35:06.379 - 00:35:37.643 So you're, you're marking here that he wrote the letter on 3 November, but he gets published on 16 November. Yeah. So I think just for the, the simplicity of it, I'm gonna do it this way, just go on the publishing date. Okay. And the HST is saying him signs of the times. That's what that stands.

00:35:38.919 - 00:35:40.678 Ten with the adventist signs of the.

00:35:40.678 - 00:35:54.480 Times. Yes. Okay. Then he writes a letter to, Times, so it's a letter from Samuel Snow and it's published in Signs of the Times on 7 December.

00:35:54.480 - 00:36:09.302 What year? 1842. Okay, so better.

00:36:09.302 - 00:36:32.879 And then there's another letter from Samuel Snow, on 11 May 1843 and I think.

00:36:32.879 - 00:36:43.243 I'm not sure which publication that was published in.

00:36:43.243 - 00:36:51.398 Okay, what is the significance of these letters that are before the 1st disappointment?

00:36:51.398 - 00:37:09.589 So Hims is fairly earth Hemes Snow is fairly new to the movement and he's a fairly small figure beforehand, but he's having these experiences where he's, these are just his experiences, basically his testimony 1st.

00:37:09.589 - 00:37:26.579 Some to some extent, but it's just kind of showing the progression of Samuel Snow and his involvement with the movement. But he's also gonna recognize before the 1st disappointment.

00:37:26.579 - 00:37:46.579 He recognizes that they have the wrong date, and he's taking an article or a presentation from William Miller and saying based on miller's logic of the Spring and Fall feast and the fulfillment of those feasts from Christ.

00:37:46.579 - 00:38:02.369 That we have to move this farther down to the fall feast because Christ, the logic is using the line of Christ is the the 1st the spring feast were met in the line of Christ 1st coming, and so.

00:38:02.369 - 00:38:22.654 The line of Christ that we do, and then the fall feaster being fulfilled at his second advent. And so Heinz is making this William Miller had already written this and he's Samuel knows picking that up and he's gonna run with that. And so he's sort of these letters are, are showing his.

00:38:22.654 - 00:38:31.877 William Miller had written that he believed that the 2300 days was gonna be fulfilled in conjunction with the fall feast. Is that what you.

00:38:31.877 - 00:38:52.084 You're saying? Yeah, he, they were, they were having some, it was sort of like, he just said it almost in passing, like he wrote a little something or he it wasn't like a big, he was making a big claim about it. He just said in passing this is, you know, probable. But Samuel Snow grabs onto it.

00:38:52.084 - 00:38:57.455 And and Miller's using a different reckoning of time than snow's gonna last.

00:38:57.455 - 00:39:28.841 Yes, and so there this is so we're just laying down sort of the, the periodicals at this point, but there's a whole progression of what snow is gonna go through as he starts to realize, you know, what happened, you know, and and what why we're having this tearing time experiences it brings them all the way to Boston Conquered in exitor. And we can look at the articles. Well, once we're done, we can look at these articles. I don't know. Do you have the articles at all, Jeff?

00:39:28.841 - 00:39:33.163 Probably I'm certain I can.

00:39:33.163 - 00:39:39.465 Can I can send them over to you and we can look at them tomorrow if we we need to because.

00:39:39.465 - 00:39:40.875 Okay, do that.

00:39:40.875 - 00:39:48.935 Okay, so right now we've got, which one isn't here I gotta get back to here.

00:39:48.935 - 00:40:06.275 Is this right? 16 November to 1842 in the signs of the times, then a letter in 1842, but it's not, you don't have a day or a month, and is it in the signs of the times that second box or this 1 s letter.

00:40:06.275 - 00:40:12.184 Of Samuel Snow is 7 December 1842 published in in the signs of the Times.

00:40:12.184 - 00:40:13.619 December second.

00:40:13.619 - 00:40:29.330 7th 7th 18th. Okay. And then the one I, this letter from Samuel Snow, I believe Is we missed one? Hang on, let me.

00:40:29.330 - 00:40:50.060 I'm looking at a different page, so I've got these things written down on a different page from your, what you're writing down. So we have, Yeah 11 May 43, the letters from Samuel Snow.

00:40:50.060 - 00:40:53.939 Was that published or just a historical letter?

00:40:53.939 - 00:41:06.905 I believe that is in the midnight cry 11 May 1843. Okay.

00:41:06.905 - 00:41:09.957 Which was a different publication of the miller right hand.

00:41:09.957 - 00:41:16.264 Yes, but it's still, this, this publication is still run by JV Heinz.

00:41:16.900 - 00:41:32.330 Okay, and it's, it's a, it's not the a main periodical that they're putting out. It's kind of a lesser periodical. So then he's also gonna have a publication that is published.

00:41:32.330 - 00:41:52.620 In February, in signs of the Times 28 February 1844, and then it's gonna be also published in 7 March 1844 gets republished.

00:41:52.620 - 00:42:10.290 In the midnight cry periodical and then he has a letter in the midnight cry, February second.

00:42:10.290 - 00:42:39.341 18 404I already say that? Yeah well that one actually comes before that one and then I believe this is his last letter, letter from Brother Snow published in signs of the Times 1 May 1844.

00:42:39.341 - 00:42:58.965 Okay, you're losing media but I'm sorry for not being on top of this but ok so I have five up here and I know you've said at least six, maybe seven. Run them by me again. I'm sorry everyone for throwing confusion into his presentation.

00:42:58.965 - 00:43:01.317 I'm I'm not doing the best job.

00:43:01.317 - 00:43:07.380 That's my fault. No, NO, you're you're trying to do your presentation and follow what I'm doing. I get it. It's trick.

00:43:07.380 - 00:43:32.836 So, 1st one's 16 November 1842 in hims signs of the times. And then there's a letter of 7 December 1842, same publication, then a letter to Hims in the midnight Cry in 11 May 1843, and I got another letter to Hims, but that's simply because I was using this to copy and paste.

00:43:32.836 - 00:43:47.443 This letter is called remarks of brothers Snow S S snow. And it's, there's one before this, so but this one is signed to the times 28 February 1844. What one?

00:43:47.443 - 00:43:48.618 This one up here.

00:43:48.618 - 00:43:50.900 I'm on a different page, so let me.

00:43:50.900 - 00:43:57.382 Yeah, it's February 28, letter to Hemes.

00:43:57.382 - 00:44:15.450 Let me pull this over. I have two screens, so let me pull this over to a different screen so I can look at both of them at the same time. Alright, so this one that we're on is remarks of brother Snow Samuel Snow signs of the times 28 February.

00:44:15.450 - 00:44:31.980 So you got that one in the box right to the right of it. Yeah, that box. 28 February, in 44 also in the midnight cry, and that one is published on 7 March 1844 in the midnight cry.

00:44:31.980 - 00:45:03.061 Yeah, so you got those. And then the next one is actually, it says Let's see, so I have the letter from William Miller there and then letter from Samuel Snow midnight Cry 22 February 1844. So this one comes before 28 February, yeah. Yep.

00:45:03.061 - 00:45:10.323 Oh, ok. Letter two in 22 February what who's the letter to to miller?

00:45:10.323 - 00:45:20.139 Letter from Samuel Snow, and then it's published in the midnight cry, 22 February.

00:45:20.139 - 00:45:21.158 Okay.

00:45:21.158 - 00:45:35.722 Yeah. Okay. And then we have a letter from Brother Snow published in signs of the Times 1 May 1844.

00:45:35.722 - 00:45:39.557 Letter from.

00:45:39.557 - 00:45:42.165 No, yeah.

00:45:42.165 - 00:45:45.779 Letter from snow. Yeah.

00:45:45.779 - 00:46:15.087 Letter from Brothers Samuel Snow published and signs of the Times May 11844.

00:46:15.821 - 00:46:31.859 Okay. All right, so now these are going to be obviously after April, before. Yeah, that one is.

00:46:31.859 - 00:46:38.535 So you have six there. Do you Do I have the same amount as you have? Yeah, we're we've got the same thing.

00:46:38.535 - 00:46:49.262 I'm going, so you got May 1844, and then you have a letter from Samuel Snow, the midnight cry, May second 1844.

00:46:49.262 - 00:46:51.342 Where is it published?

00:46:51.342 - 00:46:59.400 Midnight cry.

00:46:59.400 - 00:47:21.956 There's a, basically in the midnight cry, he's making these presentations about his understanding and there's, you know, a little bit of a back and forth alright and then letter from Samuel Snow.

00:47:21.956 - 00:47:24.555 Kick them off.

00:47:24.555 - 00:47:29.948 27 June 1844. So.

00:47:29.948 - 00:47:40.681 That's after 19 April. Yeah. Yeah. So we put all the, all of them in place before the disappointment now, right? The.

00:47:40.681 - 00:47:47.538 Is I believe the should go to the right of 19 April.

00:47:47.538 - 00:48:03.539 Well, yeah, they should, yeah. That makes sense ok alright.

00:48:03.539 - 00:48:13.003 And then you have a letter from Samuel Snow the midnight cry, 27 June 1844.

00:48:13.003 - 00:48:28.680 27 June 1844.

00:48:28.680 - 00:48:45.337 And that's in the midnight cry? Yes, so that one's correct. Okay I'll I'll organize these later, everyone, hopefully.

00:48:45.337 - 00:49:07.790 Alright, so, I think you have 27 June April 44 yes, so I think that is the the letters. And so, and the point of of even considering the letters is in these letters he's making his argument.

00:49:07.790 - 00:49:13.620 Not all of these letters. So some of the proceeding letters is just sort of.

00:49:13.620 - 00:49:33.620 Building his logic, like how he's, how he's growing to understand his message of the midnight cry. And so now we can see though that at least beforehand, there's some rumblings that that there's been a mistake made.

00:49:33.620 - 00:49:54.959 And they knew it. They were aware that there was a mistake being made. So I'm trying to think here so, so that's the line in general terms and so five letters before the 1st.

00:49:54.959 - 00:50:03.238 Appointment, then the 1st disappointment, then three more letters that precede Boston. Yeah.

00:50:03.238 - 00:50:18.770 And I think thought there was another letter I thought. Let me go back up here. I'm just running through I have all these letters.

00:50:18.770 - 00:50:37.530 And I'm just running through. So, let me 1st Yep.

00:50:57.530 - 00:51:16.344 This there'll be anyway, so, so I think I might be missing one. I have to, I'll have to look. I don't want to take the time right now to, to do all that, but but I think there's one just before the Boston Tablenacle that I don't I'm not seeing here.

00:51:16.344 - 00:51:21.034 Okay, we'll leave that open and you can fill it in tomorrow.

00:51:21.034 - 00:51:36.420 Alright, so, the dates on these also have some significance of which I am not.

00:51:36.420 - 00:51:56.420 Prepared for at the moment, but you have two months and 16 days from the 1st disappointment to the, the, when he speaks at the Boston Tabernackle, and then you have two months and 16 days from the Boston Tabernacle to October twenti.

00:51:56.420 - 00:52:12.582 2nd 1844. And so this is exactly midway between the 1st disappointment and the 3rd disappointment or the 1st disappointment, 2nd disappointment, sorry, second. Two months and 16 days is.

00:52:12.582 - 00:52:15.926 6076 days.

00:52:15.926 - 00:52:27.721 36 yes, 76 days.

00:52:27.721 - 00:52:32.235 Okay, I'll I'll clean this up later, but that's midway. Yeah.

00:52:32.235 - 00:52:59.554 Alright, so the the logic is So now I'll just talk about why when I'm interjecting some things, when we're talking about our 1st disappointment, we have 18 July, but then we talk about when you started publishing the articles, I don't have the date for that. You, you would have the date for that probably off the top of your head. Do you have the date for when or.

00:52:59.554 - 00:53:06.959 Clayton does it was 27 July 2829 somewhere in there of.

00:53:06.959 - 00:53:08.263 And so we can.

00:53:08.263 - 00:53:11.699 29th July 29, ok.

00:53:11.699 - 00:53:45.050 20 2033. Yep. And so that's gonna line up and what my logic was what I was, was present, was saying, is that I would see that lining up with snow's letters and now how we're gonna line that up with snows letters, you know, I I haven't, I don't know that, but you started writing articles just like snow started writing articles. And so that was my logic of saying when you started writing articles, that would line up with snow's articles, and then.

00:53:45.050 - 00:54:11.918 When you started doing your presentation, so 31 December or 30th or 20, you know, whatever, the 1st day of 2024, wherever you're placing that, we're gonna line up within you with when snow started in Boston. And so that was my, my personal logic.

00:54:11.918 - 00:54:14.753 Okay, so July 2912.

00:54:14.753 - 00:54:35.520 I would probably place it with his articles closer to Boston so the in the on the other side of July 18. Okay. Yeah, so this is something that we haven't talked about or worked out so and I haven't.

00:54:35.520 - 00:54:54.690 I don't know the answer to it, but, but it seems in my mind, that if we're fulfilling this, then it was only logical when you started writing your articles that they would parallel with Samuel Snow's articles. Which ones, how that works out, I I don't have a.

00:54:54.690 - 00:55:09.840 An opinion about that at the moment. But clearly you start writing articles just like same as Snow started writing articles in the midst of the tearing time or at the end of the tearing time, which brought us to your presentations, which is when snow speaks at Boston.

00:55:09.840 - 00:55:29.840 He starts to present his message, and it doesn't come into the fullness of his message until exoder. And it's an exoder that, that he's you know that that 2nd angel's message is empowered.

00:55:29.840 - 00:55:35.286 See.

00:55:36.503 - 00:55:40.034 So December, you've been.

00:55:40.034 - 00:55:59.664 December. Yeah, it's it depends how do you approach it, so I'm gonna put December, 3120 23. That's, this is the logic you're saying. Yeah. That this would line up with Boston Tabernacle midway. Yeah. Okay.

00:55:59.664 - 00:56:11.129 And, yeah, and then we have the Sunday law, which is in Nashville, right? For us.

00:56:11.129 - 00:56:30.290 For us, yeah, but but it's for the Sunday law, which is the Sunday law, the Nashville is exotter. But but yeah, I know what you mean. They're both the sunday law. They're, the Sunday law for the virgins, and then the Sunday law for the nation. Yeah. One is the blood on the door post, the other is.

00:56:30.290 - 00:56:49.159 Dead in the sea, yeah. So how do we, what would, how could we mark that? But anyway, we I got your point. I'll move it over here and duplicate it. I don't know if that's internal Sunday line.

00:56:49.159 - 00:56:52.201 Or the seedge or how you wanna.

00:56:52.201 - 00:56:56.420 There you go. The seed.

00:56:56.420 - 00:57:07.721 That, yeah, because it's the seeds that precedes the the destruction of, of the city or the temple or however we're thinking on that context.

00:57:07.721 - 00:57:14.898 Because your, your, your probate the door closes there just like the Sunday lot and it tipifies the Sunday lot, ok? Yeah.

00:57:14.898 - 00:57:45.324 And so that's my logic, kind of laid down. I don't know that I have too much more to say about it other than I think tomorrow what we can do is we can, I can email you over the article that I have with all the letters and we can just sort of go through the letters and look at Samuel's knows logic and how he came to his conclusions cause I think, you know, it's it's worth understanding that.

00:57:45.324 - 00:58:07.404 Well, what I, I don't remember because it's been a while ago, but when I looked at the publications, the, the titles or the content, the bottom line of the publication seemed to be addressing attributes of certain way marks. Yes. So not just read the articles but summarize.

00:58:07.404 - 00:58:17.517 Yeah. When I say read them I don't mean just just cursory read. I mean, they're gonna say something that's pertinent to us. Okay.

00:58:17.517 - 00:58:24.244 Yeah. And you're, you're saying that you may have one other publication or something in this history that you.

00:58:24.244 - 00:58:33.780 Yeah I thought there was one that was just like a couple days before Boston, but I'm not seeing it right now. I'll have to go back and look.

00:58:33.780 - 00:58:53.780 But I feel I feel like I'm missing one. But I, anyway, I was looking at so much stuff trying to get ready for this that I'm I'm kind of scattered a little bit, because this is not something that I study all the time. It's just something that I remember, and so I went back and pulled up some of the old stuff and I gotta tell you.

00:58:53.780 - 00:59:14.270 We said some crazy stuff, some of the number stuff with the Canadian, the gentleman in cana Canada was, was pretty wild. There's a lot to, to not wanna look at, but I was waiting through that and, trying to pull out.

00:59:14.270 - 00:59:18.547 I'm trying to refresh my memory about some of these things.

00:59:18.547 - 00:59:38.101 God, I I don't remember those crazy things, but in specifically, but I do remember the crazy things and that there were crazy things and that's been part of the reason that I've hesitated to go back is I didn't want to dive into that craziness again.

00:59:38.101 - 00:59:43.298 But yeah, I mean he was doing stuff like flipping dates around and, and, you know, cause they.

00:59:43.298 - 00:59:46.799 Conversing numbers.

00:59:46.799 - 01:00:07.114 You know, we do the 1st day and then the month, day and month and they do month day and so you can create numbers and those numbers have significance because this and I was like, yeah, this is, this was off the wall, but, but anyway, so the, but I wanted to get the, the, you know.

01:00:07.114 - 01:00:09.260 The Structure correct, yeah.

01:00:09.260 - 01:00:36.410 Substance of of Miller's letters are, are just historical reality and he has them in there and so I was going through all that stuff and and anyway I don't not trying to make any excuses but I'm pretty sure I've missed one that's right before Boston. And some of these are reprints as well. He has where they're reprinted and so I need to go through and kind of refresh all that and I didn't have time to, to go through that with that type of a.

01:00:36.410 - 01:00:44.408 Fine toothcomb, but hopefully today I can kind of get a clearer picture of all this so.

01:00:44.408 - 01:00:59.063 You ran out of time, my brother. Yeah. But you should give, if there's anyone that needs to throw a question or comment at you, they should do it now before we end this cause some people are already leaving for work.

01:00:59.063 - 01:01:18.924 Yeah, so I also want to say, I apologize for how this org how unorganized this was. I don't I don't like doing things in this pattern but I have a million excuses I can give you why I didn't have the time to do it the way I would like to have done it.

01:01:18.924 - 01:01:33.219 I just had a quick question. The I've heard multiple times people say that there was, it was either 1260 or 2300 days between something that Jeff did and something else that Jeff did. What was that? I can't remember.

01:01:33.219 - 01:01:44.662 That's 31 December 2023. Are you on this Steve? Steve Wilke, are you on this right now or have you left to do something?

01:01:44.662 - 01:01:46.482 He's still there?

01:01:46.482 - 01:01:54.900 Hey he has that pretty well in his head, that's why I'm interrupting and interjecting. I don't know, maybe he's gone.

01:01:54.900 - 01:01:56.308 Put my hand up.

01:01:56.308 - 01:02:01.372 Okay, there you go. Can you tell that to us again? Yeah.

01:02:01.372 - 01:02:21.960 Inclusively, Friday is the 1230th day of 1260 December.. Yeah, 1260th and Saturday the day you showed up inclusively would be the 1261st day. So if you do it exclusively, Saturday would be the 1260th day.

01:02:21.960 - 01:02:39.600 So either way it works. Backwards. Inclusively, Fridays the 1260th day, 29th. Exclusively, Saturday would be the 1260th day.

01:02:39.600 - 01:02:43.618 That makes sense?

01:02:43.618 - 01:03:02.124 Well, I I had it in my mind the exclusive and inclusive of a different definition. I had it reversed, you're probably right. But you're, you're saying that when I showed up, so everyone understands is that you had a Zoom meeting going on and I hadn't participated. I I haven't been around, but I showed up.

01:03:02.124 - 01:03:04.584 Showed up and and and interact.

01:03:04.584 - 01:03:11.699 As a participant, just, yeah. And it's the 1st time I come on the scene was on that.

01:03:13.785 - 01:03:15.121 So. Yeah.

01:03:15.121 - 01:03:26.700 And it's the twelve, it's 30 December 2023. And that would be the 1260th day.

01:03:26.700 - 01:03:37.830 So three and a half days were dead in the street. Yep. And five months before that, if July is five months before that, there's a voice crying in the wilderness.

01:03:37.830 - 01:03:53.970 Then on the 1260th day, we connect again and so the the next day which is the 31st, the end of 2023.

01:03:53.970 - 01:04:08.970 Is the, the unsealing of that history. It's when the two witnesses are resurrected because they're gonna get resurrected at the end of three and a half.

01:04:08.970 - 01:04:37.643 Days. They're getting resurrected on Sunday the day of Christ resurrection. Yes? Yeah, sounds good to me. Did that answer your question, Mitchelle? She must have turned off her mute or muted herself or something. So, any other questions or comments? Two participants raising their hands.

01:04:37.643 - 01:05:00.884 I was just gonna ask if you could write that maybe in the box, that December box, just so we can have that bit of information because to me that's really significant that it is 1260I don't know where we put it, but I would put it somewhere where we can just keep that in our brain while we're trying to dissect this.

01:05:00.884 - 01:05:19.670 Little bit. Well, I'll ask everyone, including you Michelle right now, explaining to me, I may have been teaching it wrong all this time. When I say exclusive, I understand that to mean that you take the narrowest approach to the possible line of history.

01:05:19.670 - 01:05:35.763 You exclude everything you can, but when you say inclusive, you're anything that's touched you add, that's inclusive. It includes it. Exclusive is it leaves it off.

01:05:40.262 - 01:05:58.730 Yes, that that's why I'm saying that when Ezeko lays on his side for 390 days, that's exclusive. There's NO wiggle room on that. It's directly said it's 390 days. But we know when you put those 390 days into history starting at the seage and going back.

01:05:58.730 - 01:06:17.940 Back 390 years that the starting point for that 390 years is in the middle of a year, exclusive, it's three 90 but if it's inclusive, then you're gonna include that year that it started in and it makes it 3901. That's how I'm understanding it.

01:06:17.940 - 01:06:40.720 The definition is for inclusive is both the starting point and the ending point are counted as full units. Incomplete or partial units at the beginning or the ending period are often treated as if they were complete units. So inclusive, includes the starting and ending point units for a.

01:06:40.720 - 01:06:45.324 Year or for a day or for any, numbers.

01:06:45.324 - 01:07:17.422 Okay, so I I I think I have that in my head now and, you know, one thing I do know is the Bible uses both those reckonings, but of the biggest majority of biblical time application is inclusive. Exclusive is the rareity. So if you, if you take 18 July and you project 1260 days, you come to Friday.

01:07:19.222 - 01:07:31.980 The 29th and that would be exclusive. You know I don't know how you can get inclusive there either way.

01:07:31.980 - 01:07:37.542 Would that put Savith as the 1261st day?

01:07:37.542 - 01:07:54.390 Yeah, which is alright. Yeah, that works. The, we connect on Sabath and there's I guess where the, the actual reservation begins if if we're gonna line it up is on Sabath, which is nice.

01:07:54.390 - 01:08:20.740 So I will try to put that line on there for you, Michelle, because I agree that's that's profound that the three and a half day fits here, not just for the time, but it connects with the, the scattering, the 2520 it connects with all kinds of prophetic symbolism. Thank you Larry. You want to have a closing prayer.

01:08:20.740 - 01:08:52.370 Yeah, let's close the prayer the heavenly father Lord, we thank you for this day. We thank you for the opportunity to look into these historical way marks of Samuel Snow. I pray that as we pull them together that you would help each person to understand the relevance and the pertinence of what they are pointing to in the line of the miller rights and how that parallels with our line. Line upon line that we would be able to digest the.

01:08:52.370 - 01:09:22.262 Those things and understand them. You said if we lacked wisdom that we could ask and you would pour it out, and so we asked for wisdom and understanding that your spirit could minister to our hearts and minds that we could have, understanding that we'd have a reason for the faith that's in us. Be with each person as they go through their day, I pray that you would give them opportunity to share this message and that you'd be glorified in all that we do, and we thank you for this in Jesus name and it's for his psyche we pray. Amen. Amen.

01:09:22.262 - 01:09:26.342 Lord William, we will see you all tomorrow.

01:09:26.342 - 01:09:28.985 Amen, thank you Jeff. Thank you.

01:09:28.985 - 01:09:33.152 Thank you.