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# Directed by the Hand of the Lord

Vođen rukom Gospodnjom

Habakkuk's Two Tables

Habakukove dvije ploče

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Jeff Pippenger

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October 16, 2012

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Habakkuk's Two Tables 4 of 95

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For me it is pretty difficult to get through eight pages of notes in an hour's presentation, roughly. And if you will notice, we have 20 pages; so, I am just letting you know that I do not intend to read these notes. I intend to read some of these passages in here for those who are watching on LiveStream that can download the notes; and for those that ultimately watch this on DVD that they have this in the record for themselves, if they do not already have these articles available to them. What we are dealing with is Habakkuk's Two Tables, and at this point all we are doing is trying to demonstrate that Ellen White was in agreement with the truths represented on this 1843 Chart.

Meni je prilično teško proći kroz osam stranica bilježaka u izlaganju od otprilike jednoga sata. A ako primijetite, imamo 20 stranica; stoga vam samo dajem do znanja da nemam namjeru čitati ove bilješke. Namjeravam pročitati neke od ovih odlomaka ovdje zbog onih koji prate putem LiveStreama i koji mogu preuzeti bilješke; i zbog onih koji će ovo naposljetku gledati na DVD-u, kako bi to imali zabilježeno za sebe, ako im ti članci već nisu dostupni. Ono čime se bavimo jesu Habakukove dvije ploče, i u ovom trenutku sve što činimo jest nastojanje da pokažemo kako je Ellen White bila u skladu s istinama prikazanima na ovoj Karti iz 1843. godine.

The first three presentations we concluded yesterday were showing that Ellen White clearly and specifically endorses the 2520 time prophecy as valid in Early Writings, page 236.

Prva tri izlaganja koja smo jučer zaključili pokazivala su da Ellen White jasno i izričito potvrđuje vremensko proročanstvo o 2520 kao valjano u Early Writings, stranica 236.

When speaking of the first disappointment in March of 1844, she says that after the disappointment the Millerites continued to study the Bible, and they discovered that the same evidence that had led them to predict 1843 for the 2520, the 2300, and the 1335, that same evidence was then recognized in 1844, to prove that these prophetic periods ended in 1844. And we discussed how the only prophetic periods that she could be speaking of are these two [referring to the 2520 and the 2300 on the 1843 Chart], not the 1335. The 1335 started in the AD time period; it ended in 1843. Therefore, she is putting her endorsement upon the understanding of the 2520 and the 2300-year prophecy.

Govoreći o prvom razočaranju u ožujku 1844., ona kaže da su nakon razočaranja mileriti nastavili proučavati Bibliju te su otkrili da su isti dokazi koji su ih naveli da za 1843. predvide 2520, 2300 i 1335, upravo ti isti dokazi tada bili prepoznati 1844. godine kao dokaz da su ta proročka razdoblja završila 1844. godine. Također smo razmotrili kako su jedina proročka razdoblja o kojima je ona mogla govoriti ova dva [misleći na 2520 i 2300 na Karti iz 1843.], a ne 1335. Razdoblje od 1335 započelo je u razdoblju naše ere; završilo je 1843. godine. Prema tome, ona time daje svoju potvrdu razumijevanju proročanstva o 2520 i 2300 godina.

And then she went on further to say that during that time period, as they began to prove that three time prophecies ended in 1844, this is what caused the persecution that drove the Millerites out of the church. So, it is not a coincidence that here at the end of the world men and women are being persecuted in the Adventist Church for presenting the information for why the 2520 ended in 1844.

A zatim je nastavila dalje govoreći da je tijekom tog razdoblja, kada su počeli dokazivati da su tri vremenska proročanstva završila 1844., upravo to izazvalo progonstvo koje je Millerite istjeralo iz crkve. Dakle, nije slučajnost što se ovdje, na svršetku svijeta, muškarce i žene progoni u Adventističkoj crkvi zato što iznose informacije o tome zašto je 2520 završilo 1844.

## Directed by the Hand of the Lord

Vođen rukom Gospodnjom

So, now we are moving to another subject, this one right here [referring to AD508 on the 1843 Chart]. You will find, if you have not looked at these Charts, Sister White says of this 1843 Chart, "I saw that the Lord directed in this Chart," and she says of this 1850 Chart that God was in the publishment of this Chart. So, she has told us that God was involved in the production of both of these Charts, and how they are structured was humanly purposeful. The Millerites did it on purpose, but it was by God's design.

Dakle, sada prelazimo na drugu temu, ovu ovdje [upućujući na AD508 na karti iz 1843.]. Uvidjet ćete, ako niste pogledali te karte, da sestra White o ovoj karti iz 1843. kaže: „Vidjela sam da je Gospod upravljao u ovoj karti“, a o ovoj karti iz 1850. kaže da je Bog bio u objavljivanju ove karte. Dakle, rekla nam je da je Bog bio uključen u izradu obiju tih karata, i da je način na koji su ustrojene bio ljudski namjeran. Mileriti su to učinili namjerno, ali po Božjem naumu.

Up here, from 677BC down to what they believed, AD1843, this is the column [referring to the second column right the left on the 1843 Chart] that defines the 2520, that begins in 677BC and they thought ended in AD1843.

Ovdje gore, od 677. pr. Kr. do onoga za što su vjerovali da je 1843. po. Kr., nalazi se stupac [upućujući na drugi stupac zdesna na Karti iz 1843.] koji određuje 2520, koji počinje 677. pr. Kr. i za koji su mislili da završava 1843. po. Kr.

And they retained this graphic illustration on the 1850 Chart, from here [referring to the third column from the left] 677BC to here, AD1844. This is the column of the 2520 that exists on both Charts.

I zadržali su taj slikoviti prikaz na Karti iz 1850., odavde [upućujući na treći stupac slijeva] 677. pr. Kr. do ovdje, 1844. po. Kr. To je stupac 2520 koji postoji na objema Kartama.

And right in the middle of these columns is the cross, in both instances.

I usred ovih stupova, u oba slučaja, nalazi se križ.

And right below the cross is the reference to the Daily. And the symbol of the Daily, Paganism, the root of the Pagan religion, is self-exaltation; and, this is where you can see the Lord's hand in it, not necessarily the human hand on both of these charts.

A odmah ispod križa nalazi se oznaka za Svagdašnju. A simbol Svagdašnje, poganstvo, korijen poganske religije, jest samouzvišenje; i upravo se tu može vidjeti ruka Gospodnja u tome, ne nužno ljudska ruka na oba ova prikaza.

For you and me, or anyone, to have our self-exaltation removed from us, we must come to the foot of the cross, reflected on both of these Charts. That lesson is illustrated.

Da bi se od nas, od tebe i mene, ili od bilo koga, uklonilo samouzvišenje, moramo doći podno križa, kako je prikazano na oba ova dijagrama. Ta je pouka ilustrirana.

And, of course, when we talk about the columns of the 2520 with the cross in the middle, we know that in fulfillment of Daniel 9, when Christ came to confirm the covenant with many for one week, that one week equates to 2520 days, and in the midst of that week He was crucified. So, in the middle of these columns on each of these Charts we see the cross, and these are inferring the 2520 days that Christ confirmed the covenant with many.

I, naravno, kada govorimo o stupcima 2520 s križem u sredini, znamo da se, u ispunjenju Daniela 9, kada je Krist došao potvrditi Savez s mnogima za jedan tjedan, taj jedan tjedan izjednačuje s 2520 dana, a usred toga tjedna bio je razapet. Dakle, u sredini tih stupaca na svakom od ovih grafikona vidimo križ, a oni upućuju na 2520 dana tijekom kojih je Krist potvrdio Savez s mnogima.

So, now we are going to take up the Daily and Ellen White's endorsement of it.

Dakle, sada ćemo razmotriti Svagdašnju i potvrdu Ellen White u pogledu nje.

> "September 23, the Lord showed me that He had stretched out His hand the second time to recover the remnant of His people, and that efforts must be redoubled in this gathering time. In the scattering, Israel was smitten and torn, but now in the gathering time God will heal and bind up His people. In the scattering, efforts made to spread the truth had but little effect, accomplished but little or nothing; but in the gathering, when God has set His hand to gather His people, efforts to spread the truth will have their designed effect. All should be united and zealous in the work. I saw that it was wrong for any to refer to the scattering for examples to govern us now in the gathering; for if God should do no more for us now than He did then, Israel would never be gathered. I have seen that the 1843 chart was directed by the hand of the Lord, and that it should not be altered; that the figures were as He wanted them; that His hand was over and hid a mistake in some of the figures, so that none could see it, until His hand was removed.

> „Dana 23. rujna Gospodin mi je pokazao da je po drugi put ispružio svoju ruku da vrati ostatak svojega naroda, te da se napori moraju udvostručiti u ovo vrijeme sabiranja. U rasijanju Izrael bijaše udaren i razderan, ali sada će u vrijeme sabiranja Bog iscijeliti i poviti svoj narod. U rasijanju su napori učinjeni da se proširi istina imali tek malen učinak, postigli su malo ili ništa; ali u sabiranju, kada je Bog pružio svoju ruku da sabere svoj narod, napori da se proširi istina imat će svoj namijenjeni učinak. Svi trebaju biti sjedinjeni i revni u djelu. Vidjela sam da je pogrešno da se itko poziva na rasijanje kao na primjer koji bi nas sada trebao voditi u sabiranju; jer kad Bog sada ne bi učinio više za nas nego što je tada učinio, Izrael nikada ne bi bio sabran. Vidjela sam da je karta iz 1843. bila usmjerena rukom Gospodnjom i da se ne smije mijenjati; da su brojke bile onakve kakve ih je On htio; da je Njegova ruka bila nad njima i prikrila pogrešku u nekim brojkama, tako da je nitko nije mogao vidjeti sve dok Njegova ruka nije bila uklonjena.״

> "Then I saw in relation to the —daily' (Daniel 8:12) that the word —sacrifice' was supplied by man's wisdom, and does not belong to the text, and that the Lord gave the correct view of it to those who gave the judgment hour cry. When union existed, before 1844, nearly all were united on the correct view of the —daily'; but in the confusion since 1844, other views have been embraced, and darkness and confusion have followed. Time has not been a test since 1844, and it will never again be a test.

> „Tada sam u vezi sa —svagdašnjom’ (Daniel 8:12) vidjela da je riječ —žrtva’ dodana ljudskom mudrošću te da ne pripada tekstu, i da je Gospod dao ispravno razumijevanje o tome onima koji su objavljivali vijest o času suda. Kad je postojalo jedinstvo, prije 1844., gotovo svi bijahu ujedinjeni u ispravnom razumijevanju —svagdašnje’; ali u pometnji nakon 1844. prihvaćena su druga gledišta, te su uslijedili tama i zbrka. Vrijeme nije bilo kušnja od 1844., niti će ikada više biti kušnja.“

> "The Lord has shown me that the message of the third angel must go, and be proclaimed to the scattered children of the Lord, but it must not be hung on time. I saw that some were getting a false excitement, arising from preaching time; but the third angel's message is stronger than time can be. I saw that this message can stand on its own foundation and needs not time to strengthen it; and that it will go in mighty power, and do its work, and will be cut short in righteousness.

> Gospodin mi je pokazao da poruka trećega anđela mora ići i biti objavljivana raspršenoj djeci Gospodnjoj, ali ne smije biti vezana uz vrijeme. Vidjela sam da su neki zapadali u lažno uzbuđenje koje je proizlazilo iz propovijedanja vremena; ali poruka trećega anđela snažnija je nego što vrijeme može biti. Vidjela sam da ta poruka može stajati na vlastitome temelju i da joj nije potrebno vrijeme da je učvrsti; te da će ići u silnoj snazi, obaviti svoje djelo i biti skraćena u pravednosti.

> "Then I was pointed to some who are in the great error of believing that it is their duty to go to Old Jerusalem, and think they have a work to do there before the Lord comes. Such a view is calculated to take the mind and interest from the present work of the Lord, under the message of the third angel; for those who think that they are yet to go to Jerusalem will have their minds there, and their means will be withheld from the cause of present truth to get themselves and others there. I saw that such a mission would accomplish no real good, that it would take a long while to make a very few of the Jews believe even in the first advent of Christ, much more to believe in His second advent. I saw that Satan had greatly deceived some in this thing and that souls all around them in this land could be helped by them and led to keep the commandments of God, but they were leaving them to perish. I also saw that Old Jerusalem never would be built up; and that Satan was doing his utmost to lead the minds of the children of the Lord into these things now, in the gathering time, to keep them from throwing their whole interest into the present work of the Lord, and to cause them to neglect the necessary preparation for the day of the Lord." Early Writings, 74–76.

> „Tada mi je bila skrenuta pozornost na neke koji su u velikoj zabludi vjerujući da je njihova dužnost poći u Stari Jeruzalem te misle da ondje imaju obaviti neko djelo prije nego što Gospodin dođe. Takvo je gledište takvo da odvraća um i zanimanje od sadašnjega Gospodnjeg djela pod porukom trećega anđela; jer oni koji misle da tek trebaju poći u Jeruzalem imat će ondje svoje misli, a njihova će sredstva biti uskraćena djelu sadašnje istine kako bi sebe i druge odveli onamo. Vidjela sam da takvo poslanje ne bi ostvarilo nikakvo stvarno dobro, da bi bilo potrebno veoma mnogo vremena da se i vrlo malo Židova navede da povjeruju čak i u prvi Kristov dolazak, a još manje da povjeruju u Njegov drugi dolazak. Vidjela sam da je Sotona uvelike prevario neke u tome te da bi duše svuda oko njih u ovoj zemlji po njima mogle biti pomognute i navedene da drže Božje zapovijedi, ali oni ih ostavljaju da propadnu. Također sam vidjela da Stari Jeruzalem nikada neće biti ponovno izgrađen te da Sotona čini sve što je u njegovoj moći da sada, u vrijeme sabiranja, navede umove djece Gospodnje na ove stvari, kako bi ih spriječio da ulože sav svoj interes u sadašnje Gospodnje djelo i naveo ih da zanemare nužnu pripremu za dan Gospodnji.” Early Writings, 74–76.

A few things that we are going to show is we have a passage from Early Writings, page 74. We have dealt with this before. Many of these things we will be dealing with in this presentation, we have dealt with before; but, most of us do not understand that this passage in Early Writings went through an evolution. As it exists in the book Early Writings, men will use what is in Early Writings to misrepresent the truth. But, if you go back to the original source documents, the logic for their misrepresenting the truth is removed.

Nekoliko stvari koje ćemo pokazati jest da imamo jedan odlomak iz knjige Early Writings, stranica 74. Time smo se već bavili. Mnogim od ovih stvarī kojima ćemo se baviti u ovom izlaganju bavili smo se i prije; ali većina nas ne razumije da je ovaj odlomak u knjizi Early Writings prošao kroz razvoj. U obliku u kojem postoji u knjizi Early Writings, ljudi će se onime što se nalazi u Early Writings služiti kako bi iskrivili istinu. Ali ako se vratite izvornim izvornim dokumentima, uklanja se logika na kojoj temelje svoje iskrivljavanje istine.

So, there is much that can be said about this. I am only going to identify a couple of points, because we are dealing with the Daily here. But, in this passage from Early Writings, I would have you take note of the very first two thoughts, September 23rd.

Dakle, o ovome bi se moglo mnogo toga reći. Ja ću samo naznačiti nekoliko točaka, jer se ovdje bavimo Svagdašnjom. No, želio bih da u ovom odlomku iz Spisa ranih uzmete na znanje prve dvije misli, 23. rujna.

Okay. September 23rd, if you are not familiar with it, you can put 1850 there; September 23, 1850. This has an impact on correctly understanding the Daily.

Dobro. Ako vam to nije poznato, ondje možete staviti 23. rujna 1850.; 23. rujna 1850. To utječe na ispravno razumijevanje Svagdašnje žrtve.

The end of the first paragraph is a statement that we have dealt with here already for the past few days, "I have seen that the 1843 chart was directed by the hand of the Lord, and that it should not be altered; that the figures were as He wanted them; that His hand was over and hid a mistake in some of the figures, so that none could see it until His hand was removed."

Kraj prvoga odlomka izjava je kojom smo se ovdje već bavili proteklih nekoliko dana: „Vidjela sam da je karta iz 1843. bila vođena rukom Gospodnjom i da se ne smije mijenjati; da su brojke bile onakve kakve ih je On želio; da je Njegova ruka bila nad njima i sakrila pogrešku u nekima od brojki, tako da je nitko nije mogao vidjeti dok Njegova ruka nije bila uklonjena.“

The second paragraph says, "Then I saw in relation to the —daily' (Daniel 8:12) . . . ." Now, I want you to just put in your memory bank—we will deal with this no doubt later, the Lord willing—when the Daily is represented on the 1843 Chart, right here, it says, "taking away the daily"; it says, "Daniel 12: 11 and 12." On the 1850 Chart, when it is dealing with the Daily, it says, "pagan dominion or when the daily taken away, Daniel 11:31." So, on these two Charts, the emphasis that they are identifying from Daniel 11:31 and Daniel 12:11 is the taking away of the Daily. All right?

Drugi odlomak kaže: „Tada sam vidio u vezi sa —svagdanjom’ (Daniel 8,12) . . . .” Sada želim da to jednostavno pohranite u svoje pamćenje — time ćemo se nesumnjivo pozabaviti kasnije, ako Gospodin dopusti — kada je Svagdanja prikazana na Karti iz 1843., upravo ovdje, piše: „ukidanje svagdanje”; piše: „Daniel 12,11 i 12.” Na Karti iz 1850., kada se govori o Svagdanjoj, piše: „poganska vlast ili kada je svagdanja uklonjena, Daniel 11,31.” Dakle, na tim dvjema Kartama, naglasak koji se prepoznaje iz Daniela 11,31 i Daniela 12,11 jest ukidanje Svagdanje. U redu?

> And in Daniel 11:31 and Daniel 12:11, the Hebrew word that is translated as "take away" is sur, and it means "to take away"; it means "to remove."

> A u Danielu 11:31 i Danielu 12:11 hebrejska riječ koja se prevodi kao „ukloniti” jest sur, a znači „uzeti”; znači „odstraniti”.

But, in Daniel 8, in verse 11, where it says the Daily is taken away, it is a different Hebrew word. It is rum, and it means "to lift up and to exalt."

Ali, u Danielu 8, u 11. retku, gdje se kaže da je Svagdašnja oduzeta, upotrijebljena je druga hebrejska riječ. To je rum, i znači „uzdići i uzvisiti”.

So, William Miller used the Cruden's Concordance, and the Cruden's Concordance does not give you any insight on the Hebrew or the Greek. So, the Lord was directing the Millerites; because, of the three places where the Daily is referenced in the Book of Daniel, Daniel chapter 8, Daniel chapter 11, and Daniel chapter 12, in chapters 11 and 12 the Hebrew that is translated "take away" means "take away." And that is what they are emphasizing on these Charts, is when Paganism was taken away the 1290 and the 1335 prophecies would begin.

Dakle, William Miller služio se Crudenovom konkordancijom, a Crudenova konkordancija ne pruža nikakav uvid u hebrejski ili grčki. Stoga je Gospod usmjeravao milerite; jer od triju mjesta u Knjizi proroka Daniela gdje se spominje Svagdašnja, u 8. poglavlju, 11. poglavlju i 12. poglavlju, u 11. i 12. poglavlju hebrejska riječ prevedena kao „ukloniti” znači „ukloniti”. I upravo to oni naglašavaju na tim kartama: kada je poganstvo bilo uklonjeno, započela bi proročanstva o 1290 i 1335 dana.

But, in Daniel 8, when the Daily is taken away, it is not talking about being removed; it is talking about the religion of Paganism being lifted up and exalted. So, the Millerites got it right. They referenced the two chapters in Daniel that are about the Daily being taken away.

Ali, u Danielu 8, kada se uzme Svagdašnja, ne govori se o uklanjanju; govori se o tome da se religija poganstva uzdiže i uzvisuje. Dakle, mileriti su to ispravno razumjeli. Pozvali su se na dva poglavlja u Danielu koja govore o tome da se Svagdašnja uzima.

But here in Early Writings and as we go back through the original source documents you are going to see in this chapter that originally this reference of Daniel 8:12 is not there. I do not know that Ellen White told them to include that in there in 1882 when they printed Early Writings, or if one of the editors put it in. I am not threatened by it, because it is not talking about the taking away here.

Ali ovdje u Ranim spisima, i kako se vraćamo kroz izvorne izvorne dokumente, vidjet ćete u ovom poglavlju da izvorno toga upućivanja na Daniela 8:12 nema. Ne znam je li im Ellen White rekla da to uključe 1882. godine kada su tiskali Rane spise, ili je to unio jedan od urednika. To me ne uznemiruje, jer se ovdje ne govori o oduzimanju.

It says in the second paragraph, "Then I saw in relation to the —daily' (Daniel 8:12) that the word —sacrifice' was supplied by man's wisdom, and does not belong to the text, and that the Lord gave the correct view of it to those who gave the judgment hour cry."

U drugom odlomku stoji: „Tada sam u vezi sa —svagdašnjom' (Daniel 8:12) vidjela da je riječ —žrtva' umetnuta ljudskom mudrošću i da ne pripada tekstu, te da je Gospod dao ispravno razumijevanje o tome onima koji su objavili poziv o času suda.”

Now, we had a meeting with some of the prominent pastors in Germany and some of the seminary teachers from Germany several years ago, in Germany, where I presented and they threw their stones at this message.

Prije nekoliko godina imali smo sastanak s nekim od istaknutih pastora u Njemačkoj i s nekim profesorima bogoslovija iz Njemačke, ondje u Njemačkoj, gdje sam izlagao, a oni su bacali svoje kamenje na ovu poruku.

And there was a pastor there from Italy, and he expressed one of the foolish arguments about this verse. And what he said was—and there are several foolish arguments about the Daily, so you find this foolish argument used often and we will put it in the record here. It says, "Then I saw in relation to the —daily' (Daniel 8:12) that the word —sacrifice' was supplied by man's wisdom, and does not belong to the text, and that the Lord gave the correct view of it to those who gave the judgment hour cry." Here is the foolish argument: They say Ellen White is not endorsing the Daily here; she is endorsing the Pioneer understanding that the word sacrifice was added by human wisdom and does not belong to the text. Okay? So, this Italian pastor is making this argument.

A ondje je bio jedan pastor iz Italije, i iznio je jedan od ludih argumenata o ovom retku. A ono što je rekao bilo je—a postoji nekoliko ludih argumenata o Svagdašnjoj, pa tako nalazite da se ovaj ludi argument često rabi, i mi ćemo ga ovdje unijeti u zapis. Kaže: „Tada sam vidjela u vezi sa —svagdašnjom’ (Daniel 8:12) da je riječ —žrtva’ dodana ljudskom mudrošću i da ne pripada tekstu, te da je Gospod dao ispravno razumijevanje toga onima koji su objavili vijest o času suda.” Evo ludog argumenta: Kažu da Ellen White ovdje ne podupire Svagdašnju; ona podupire pionirsko razumijevanje da je riječ žrtva dodana ljudskom mudrošću i da ne pripada tekstu. U redu? Dakle, ovaj pastor iz Italije iznosi taj argument.

And I said, "Well, explain the next sentence to me, Pastor."

I rekoh: „Pa, objasnite mi sljedeću rečenicu, pastore.”

The next sentence says, "When union existed, before 1844, nearly all were united on the correct view of the —daily'; . . . ." This is not about the correct view of the word sacrifice being added by human wisdom. Ellen White here—and this is a hard one, this is a hard one for these people that are refusing to hear and are refusing to see in Adventism today. This paragraph, there are probably more theologians have lost their salvation over this paragraph than any other paragraph in the Spirit of Prophecy. I am not exaggerating; I think that is probably accurate.

Sljedeća rečenica kaže: „Kad je postojalo jedinstvo, prije 1844., gotovo svi bijahu ujedinjeni u ispravnom razumijevanju —‘svagdašnje’; . . . .” Ovo se ne odnosi na ispravno gledište da je riječ sacrifice dodana ljudskom mudrošću. Ellen White ovdje—a ovo je teško, ovo je teško za te ljude koji danas u adventizmu odbijaju čuti i odbijaju vidjeti. Zbog ovoga odlomka vjerojatno je više teologa izgubilo svoje spasenje nego zbog ijednog drugog odlomka u Duhu proroštva. Ne pretjerujem; mislim da je to vjerojatno točno.

In the early part of the 20th Century when the false view of the Daily is being introduced into Adventism, everyone that was fighting about it on both sides of the issue knew that they were fighting about this paragraph. When Stephen Haskell came to the defense of the Pioneer view that the Daily was Paganism, what did he do? He reprinted this 1843 Chart, and he put this paragraph on the bottom. So this paragraph is the focus of controversy, and it is here where many, many men have fallen on their swords and died.

U ranom dijelu 20. stoljeća, kada se u adventizam uvodilo lažno gledište o Svagdašnjoj, svi koji su se oko toga borili, s obje strane toga pitanja, znali su da se bore upravo oko ovoga odlomka. Kada je Stephen Haskell stao u obranu pionirskog gledišta da je Svagdašnja poganstvo, što je učinio? Ponovno je tiskao ovu kartu iz 1843. godine i stavio je ovaj odlomak na dno. Dakle, ovaj je odlomak žarište prijepora, i upravo su ovdje mnogi, mnogi ljudi pali na svoje mačeve i umrli.

So, at a minimum level of what I want you to see here, because you have men like recently, Steve Wohlberg of White Horse Ministries, he has been opposing this message. And one of his arguments is, "Well, Ellen White never had a position on the Daily, so I don't have to have one," which was just an absolutely foolish position. But, even if we grant him the possibility that Ellen White did not have a position on it, what does she say in this quote? She says that the Pioneers had the correct view of it. Even if she did not know what it was, here she is saying that there is a correct view, which means there are a wrong view, maybe several wrong views.

Dakle, na najmanjoj razini onoga što želim da ovdje uvidite, budući da imate ljude poput, u novije vrijeme, Stevea Wohlberga iz White Horse Ministries, koji se protivi ovoj poruci. I jedan od njegovih argumenata glasi: „Pa, Ellen White nikada nije imala stajalište o Svagdašnjoj, stoga ga ni ja ne moram imati”, što je bilo posve besumno stajalište. No, čak i ako mu dopustimo mogućnost da Ellen White nije imala stajalište o tome, što ona kaže u ovom navodu? Ona kaže da su pioniri imali ispravno gledište o tome. Čak i ako ona nije znala što je to, ovdje ipak kaže da postoji ispravno gledište, što znači da postoji i pogrešno gledište, možda i nekoliko pogrešnih gledišta.

You have men like Vance Ferrell. Vance Ferrell; people have confidence in Vance Ferrell's prophetic interpretations, and I do not know why. Vance Ferrell is not the only one but he is one of the men that says that the Daily represents both Paganism and Christ's Sanctuary ministry. Okay? He is saying that this symbol represents Satan and Christ.

Imate ljude poput Vancea Ferrella. Vance Ferrell; ljudi imaju povjerenja u Vance Ferrellova proročka tumačenja, a ja ne znam zašto. Vance Ferrell nije jedini, ali on je jedan od onih koji kažu da Svagdašnje predstavlja i poganstvo i Kristovu službu u Svetištu. U redu? On govori da ovaj simbol predstavlja Sotonu i Krista.

What kind of discernment is being employed with that kind of reasoning?

Kakvo se rasuđivanje primjenjuje u takvu načinu razmišljanja?

Okay, Sister White, no matter what the Daily represents here, she says there is a correct view. So, we can at least agree with that premise here, right?

Dobro, sestro White, bez obzira na to što „Svakidašnja“ ovdje predstavlja, ona kaže da postoji ispravno gledište. Dakle, možemo se barem složiti s tom pretpostavkom ovdje, zar ne?

> "Then I saw in relation to the —daily' (Daniel 8:12) that the word —sacrifice' was supplied by man's wisdom, and does not belong to the text, and that the Lord gave the correct view of it to those who gave the judgment hour cry. When union exited, before 1844, nearly all were united on the correct view of the —daily'; but in the confusion since 1844, other views have been embraced,"—

> „Tada sam u vezi sa —svagdašnjom' (Daniel 8,12) vidjela da je riječ —žrtva' umetnuta ljudskom mudrošću i da ne pripada tekstu, te da je Gospod dao ispravno razumijevanje toga onima koji su objavljivali vijest o času suda. Kad je jedinstvo iščezlo, prije 1844., gotovo su svi bili ujedinjeni u ispravnom razumijevanju —svagdašnje'; ali u zbrci nakon 1844. prihvaćena su druga gledišta,”

This is what I told the Italian pastor. I said, "Okay. Can you give me any historical references where after 1844 there were other views about the word sacrifice that have been embraced?

To sam rekao talijanskom pastoru. Rekao sam: „U redu. Možete li mi navesti bilo kakve povijesne reference prema kojima su nakon 1844. prihvaćena druga gledišta o riječi »žrtva«?”

And he kind of backed out of that at this point.

I na neki se način u ovom trenutku povukao od toga.

Since 1844 other views of the Daily have been embraced, and what have they produced? Darkness and confusion.

Od 1844. godine prihvaćena su i druga gledišta o Svagdašnjoj službi; a što su ona proizvela? Tamu i zbrku.

Underline "darkness and confusion," because when Sister White further talks about the Daily, she talks about darkness and confusion, and we are going to show you some of those this morning.

Podcrtajte „tamu i zbrku“, jer kada sestra White dalje govori o Svagdašnjoj, govori o tami i zbrci, a mi ćemo vam jutros pokazati neke od njih.

## Take the wrong view of the Daily and it produces darkness and confusion.

Prihvatite pogrešno gledište o Svagdanjoj i ono proizvodi tamu i pomutnju.

"Time has not been a test since 1844, and it will never again be a test."

„Vrijeme nije bilo kušnja od 1844. godine i nikada više neće biti kušnja.“

So, in connection with the Daily you see here, here is the argument. Here is the argument today; here is the argument that was introduced by Ellen White's son. It was introduced by others, but he is the one that put it into the historical record of Adventism. It is that when you read this passage, the context of time setting is what you need to understand.

Dakle, u vezi sa Svagdašnjom koju ovdje vidite, evo argumenta. Ovo je argument danas; ovo je argument koji je predstavio sin Ellen White. Predstavili su ga i drugi, ali on je taj koji ga je unio u povijesni zapis adventizma. On glasi da, kada čitate ovaj odlomak, ono što trebate razumjeti jest kontekst određivanja vremena.

—"other views have been embraced,"—in concerning the Daily—"and darkness and confusion have followed. Time has not been a test since 1844, and it will never again be a test.

—„prihvaćena su druga gledišta“—u vezi sa Svagdanjom—„a uslijedili su tama i pomutnja. Vrijeme nije bilo kušnja od 1844. godine, niti će ikada više biti kušnja.

"The Lord has shown me that the message of the third angel must go, and be proclaimed to the scattered children of the Lord, but it must not be hung on time."

„Gospodin mi je pokazao da poruka trećega anđela mora poći i biti naviještena raspršenoj djeci Gospodnjoj, ali ne smije biti vezana uz vrijeme.”

Do you see why Willy White is saying that we need to see the context of time-setting?

Vidite li zašto Willy White kaže da trebamo sagledati kontekst određivanja vremena?

It talks about the confusion that the wrong views of the Daily produced, time has not been a test; and then there is a paragraph about time setting.

Govori o zbrci koju su pogrešna gledišta o Svagdašnjoj proizvela; vrijeme nije bilo kušnja; a zatim slijedi odlomak o određivanju vremena.

Okay, this is what you have to understand: This paragraph about time setting, it was not in the original source document; and, the statement about time has not been a test, that sentence has been altered. It misrepresents Ellen White's original thought. She did not connect anything about time setting with the Daily. This is what we want to look at this morning.

Dobro, ovo morate razumjeti: Ovaj odlomak o određivanju vremena nije bio u izvornom dokumentu; a izjava da vrijeme nije bilo test, ta je rečenica izmijenjena. Ona pogrešno prikazuje izvornu misao Ellen White. Ona nije povezivala ništa u vezi s određivanjem vremena sa Svagdanjom. To je ono što želimo razmotriti jutros.

So, as I said, we are not going to read all these pages. I am just going to make sure that you have them in your possession so you can test what I am saying; because, as a human being, there is a possibility that I am misleading you.

Dakle, kao što sam rekao, nećemo čitati sve ove stranice. Samo ću se pobrinuti da ih imate u svom posjedu kako biste mogli provjeriti ono što govorim; jer, kao ljudsko biće, postoji mogućnost da vas dovodim u zabludu.

Arthur White—"The Context of Time Setting"

Arthur White — „Kontekst određivanja vremena”

"The advocates of the old view maintained that the wording of this statement [Early Writings, 74–75.] placed Heaven's endorsement on the view of the daily held by Miller and eventually repeated by Uriah Smith.

Zagovornici staroga gledišta tvrdili su da je formulacija ove izjave [Early Writings, 74–75.] stavljala nebesko odobrenje na gledište o svagdanjoj službi koje je zastupao Miller, a koje je naposljetku ponovio Uriah Smith.

Arthur White, the son of Willy White, in his six-volume set about the history of Ellen White, speaking of his father's position rejecting the correct view of the Daily, he says, in EGW, volume 6, on page 252,

Arthur White, sin Willyja Whitea, u svom šestotomnom djelu o povijesti Ellen White, govoreći o stajalištu svoga oca, kojim je odbacivao ispravno gledište o Svagdašnjoj, kaže u EGW, svezak 6, na stranici 252,

"The advocates of the old view"—that the Daily represented Paganism—"maintained that the wording of this statement [Early Writings, 74–75.] placed Heaven's endorsement on the view of the daily held by Miller and eventually repeated by Uriah Smith."—

„Zagovornici staroga gledišta“ — da je Svagdašnja predstavljala poganstvo — „tvrdili su da je formulacija ove izjave [Early Writings, 74–75.] stavljala nebesko odobrenje na gledište o Svagdašnjoj koje je zastupao Miller i koje je poslije ponovio Uriah Smith.“

If Arthur White was going to be a genuine, accurate historian, do you know what he would have said there? He would have just put one word in there; but, Arthur White, he missed the boat here. He would have said, "The advocates of the old view maintained [correctly] that the wording of this statement, —maintained that the wording of this statement [Early Writings, 74-75.],' placed Heaven's endorsement on the view of the daily held by Miller and eventually repeated by Uriah Smith."

Kad bi Arthur White bio istinski, točan povjesničar, znate li što bi ondje rekao? Jednostavno bi ondje umetnuo jednu riječ; ali, Arthur White, ovdje je promašio. Rekao bi: „Zagovornici staroga gledišta tvrdili su [ispravno] da je izričaj ove izjave, — tvrdili su da je izričaj ove izjave [Early Writings, 74-75.], stavio nebesko odobrenje na gledište o svagdanjoj službi koje je zastupao Miller, a koje je na koncu ponovio Uriah Smith.”

But he does not put correctly in there. He is just saying what they maintain, like there is the possibility that they were maintaining a wrong position. But they were not; they had the right position.

Ali on to ondje ne iznosi ispravno. On samo kaže ono čega se oni drže, kao da postoji mogućnost da su zastupali pogrešno stajalište. Ali nisu; imali su ispravno stajalište.

—"The new-view advocates"—his father, Willy, A. G. Daniells, W. W. Prescott, and I will not go there right now—"The new-view advocates held that the statement must be taken in its context—the context of time setting."—

—„Zagovornici novoga gledišta“ — njegov otac, Willy, A. G. Daniells, W. W. Prescott, i sada se time neću baviti — „držali su da se ta izjava mora uzeti u njezinu kontekstu — kontekstu određivanja vremena.“

We just told you their argument in Early Writings, page 74.

Upravo smo vam iznijeli njihov argument u djelu Early Writings, stranica 74.

—"The new-view advocates held that the statement must be taken in its context—the context of time setting. Ellen White's repeated statements that I have no light on the point' (Letter 226, 1908) and I am unable to define clearly the points that are questioned' (Letter 250, 1908), and her inability to make a definite statement when the question was urged upon her, seemed to give support to their conclusion. They were confident also that the messages given through Ellen White would not conflict with the clearly established events of history." Arthur White, EGW, volume 6, 252.

—„Zagovornici novoga gledišta držali su da se ta izjava mora uzeti u njezinu kontekstu — kontekstu određivanja vremena. Ponavljane izjave Ellen White: „I have no light on the point” (Letter 226, 1908) i „I am unable to define clearly the points that are questioned” (Letter 250, 1908), kao i njezina nemogućnost da dade određenu izjavu kada joj je to pitanje bilo nametnuto, činile su se kao potpora njihovu zaključku. Također su bili uvjereni da poruke dane preko Ellen White neće biti u sukobu s jasno utvrđenim povijesnim događajima.” Arthur White, EGW, volume 6, 252.

The Original Version—Review and Herald, November 1, 1850

Izvorna verzija — Review and Herald, 1. studenoga 1850.

And Early Writings, page 74, when was it printed? 1882; the book Early Writings was printed in 1882.

A Rani spisi, stranica 74, kada su tiskani? Godine 1882.; knjiga Rani spisi tiskana je 1882. godine.

But where in the passage of Early Writings that we are considering is originally found is in the Review and Herald, November 1, 1850, and you have that in your notes. And it is several paragraphs, and as I have said, we are not going to read them all.

No izvorni se tekst odlomka iz Ranih spisa koji razmatramo nalazi u Review and Herald, 1. studenoga 1850., a to imate u svojim bilješkama. I sastoji se od nekoliko odlomaka te, kao što sam rekao, nećemo ih sve čitati.

We see four paragraphs on page 2, then four paragraphs on page 3:

Vidimo četiri odlomka na 2. stranici, zatim četiri odlomka na 3. stranici:

> "Dear Brethren and Sisters I wish to give you a short sketch of what the Lord has recently shown to me in vision. I was shown the loveliness of Jesus, and the love that the angels have for one another. Said the angel—Can ye not behold their love?—follow it. Just so God's people must love one another. Rather let blame fall on thyself than on a brother. I saw that the message —sell that ye have and give alms' had not been given, by some, in its clear light; that the true object of the words of our Saviour had not been clearly presented. I saw that the object of selling was not to give to those who are able to labor and support themselves; but to spread the truth. It is a sin to support and indulge those who are able to labor, in idleness. Some have been zealous to attend all the meetings; not to glorify God, but for the —loaves and fishes.' Such had much better been at home laboring with their hands, —the thing that is good,' to supply the wants of their families, and to have something to give to sustain the precious cause of present truth.

> „Draga braćo i sestre, želim vam dati kratak prikaz onoga što mi je Gospodin nedavno pokazao u viđenju. Pokazana mi je ljupkost Isusa i ljubav koju anđeli imaju jedni prema drugima. Reče anđeo: — Zar ne možete vidjeti njihovu ljubav? — slijedite je. Tako i Božji narod mora ljubiti jedan drugoga. Radije neka krivnja padne na tebe nego na brata. Vidjela sam da poruka — prodajte što imate i dajte milostinju' od nekih nije bila iznesena u svojoj jasnoj svjetlosti; da pravi cilj riječi našega Spasitelja nije bio jasno prikazan. Vidjela sam da cilj prodavanja nije bio dati onima koji su sposobni raditi i sami se uzdržavati, nego širiti istinu. Grijeh je podupirati i povlađivati onima koji su sposobni raditi, a žive u besposličarenju. Neki su revno nastojali prisustvovati svim skupovima, ne da proslave Boga, nego radi — kruhova i riba'. Takvima bi bilo mnogo bolje da su kod kuće i da rade svojim rukama — ono što je dobro' — kako bi namirili potrebe svojih obitelji i imali što dati za podupiranje dragocjenoga djela sadašnje istine.“

> "Some, I saw, had erred in praying for the sick to be healed before unbelievers. If any among us are sick, and call for the elders of the church to pray over them, according to James 5:14, 15, we should follow the example of Jesus. He put unbelievers out of the room, then healed the sick; so we should seek to be separated from the unbelief of those who have not faith, when we pray for the sick among us.

> Neki su, vidjela sam, pogriješili moleći za ozdravljenje bolesnih pred nevjernicima. Ako je tko među nama bolestan te pozove starješine crkve da se mole nad njim, prema Jakovu 5,14.15, trebamo slijediti Isusov primjer. On je nevjernike izveo iz prostorije, a zatim ozdravio bolesnoga; tako i mi trebamo nastojati odvojiti se od nevjere onih koji nemaju vjere kada se molimo za bolesne među nama.

> "Then I was pointed back to the time that Jesus took his disciples away alone, into an upper room, and first washed their feet, and then gave them to eat of the broken bread, to represent his broken body, and juice of the vine to represent his spilled blood. I saw that all should move understandingly, and follow the example of Jesus in these things, and when attending to these ordinances, should be as separate from unbelievers as possible.

> Tada mi je pozornost ponovno bila usmjerena na vrijeme kada je Isus poveo svoje učenike nasamo u gornju sobu te im najprije oprao noge, a zatim im dao da jedu od razlomljenoga kruha, da predstavlja njegovo slomljeno tijelo, i soka od vinove loze da predstavlja njegovu prolivenu krv. Vidjela sam da svi trebaju postupati s razumijevanjem i slijediti Isusov primjer u ovim stvarima te, kada pristupaju tim uredbama, biti što je moguće odvojeniji od nevjernika.

> "Then I was shown that the seven last plagues will be poured out, after Jesus leaves the Sanctuary. Said the angel—It is the wrath of God and the Lamb that causes the destruction or death of the wicked. At the voice of God the saints will be mighty and terrible as an army with banners; but they will not then execute the judgment written. The execution of the judgment will be at the close of the 1000 years.

> Tada mi je bilo pokazano da će se izliti sedam posljednjih zala, nakon što Isus napusti Svetinju. Anđeo reče: Gnjev Boga i Janjeta uzrokuje uništenje ili smrt zlih. Na glas Božji sveti će biti silni i strašni kao vojska pod barjacima; ali oni tada neće izvršiti napisani sud. Izvršenje suda bit će na svršetku 1000 godina.

> "After the saints are changed to immortality, and are caught up together, and receive their harps, crowns, &c., and enter the Holy City, Jesus and the saints set in judgment. The books are opened, the book of life and the book of death; the book of life contains the good deeds of the saints, and the book of death contains the evil deeds of the wicked. These books were compared with the Statute book, the Bible, and according to that they were judged. The saints in unison with Jesus pass their judgment upon the wicked dead. Behold ye! said the angel, the saints sit in judgment, in unison with Jesus, and mete out to each of the wicked, according to the deeds done in the body, and it is set off against their names what they must receive, at the execution of the judgment. This, I saw, was the work of the saints with Jesus, in the Holy City before it descends to the earth, through the 1000 years. Then at the close of the 1000 years, Jesus, and the angels, and all the saints with him, leaves the Holy City, and while he is descending to the earth with them, the wicked dead are raised, and then the very men that —pierced him,' being raised, will see him afar off in all his glory, the angels and saints with him, and will wail because of him. They will see the prints of the nails in his hands, and in his feet, and where they thrust the spear into his side. The prints of the nails and the spear will then be his glory. It is at the close of the 1000 years that Jesus stands upon the Mount of Olives, and the Mount parts asunder, and it becomes a mighty plain, and those who flee at that time are the wicked, that have just been raised. Then the Holy City comes down and settles on the plain.

> „Nakon što se sveti promijene u besmrtnost, budu zajedno uzneseni, prime svoje harfe, krune itd. i uđu u Sveti Grad, Isus i sveti sjedaju na sud. Knjige se otvaraju: knjiga života i knjiga smrti; knjiga života sadržava dobra djela svetih, a knjiga smrti sadržava zla djela opakih. Te su knjige bile uspoređene sa Zakonikom, Biblijom, i prema tome su bili suđeni. Sveti, u jedinstvu s Isusom, izriču svoju presudu nad mrtvim opakima. Gle! reče anđeo, sveti sjede na sudu, u jedinstvu s Isusom, i odmjeravaju svakome od opakih prema djelima učinjenima u tijelu, i uz njihova se imena bilježi što moraju primiti pri izvršenju presude. To je, vidjela sam, bilo djelo svetih s Isusom u Svetome Gradu prije nego što on siđe na zemlju, tijekom 1000 godina. Zatim, na svršetku 1000 godina, Isus, i anđeli, i svi sveti s njime napuštaju Sveti Grad, i dok s njima silazi na zemlju, mrtvi opaki uskrsavaju, i tada će upravo oni ljudi koji su ga —proboli,' uskrsnuvši, vidjeti ga izdaleka u svoj njegovoj slavi, s anđelima i svetima s njime, i naricat će zbog njega. Vidjet će tragove čavala na njegovim rukama i na njegovim nogama, i mjesto gdje su mu kopljem proboli bok. Tragovi čavala i koplja tada će biti njegova slava. Na svršetku 1000 godina Isus staje na Maslinsku goru, i gora se razdvaja, te postaje golema ravnica, a oni koji tada bježe jesu opaki, koji su upravo uskrsnuli. Tada Sveti Grad silazi i spušta se na ravnicu.“

> "Then Satan imbues the wicked, that have been raised, with his spirit. He flatters them that the army in the City is small, and that his army is large, and that they can overcome the saints and take the City. While Satan was rallying his army, the saints were in the City, beholding the beauty and glory of the Paradise of God. Jesus was at their head, leading them. All at once the lovely Saviour was gone from our company; but soon we heard his lovely voice, saying, —Come ye blessed of my Father inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.' We gathered about Jesus, and just as he closed the gates of the City, the curse was pronounced upon the wicked. The gates were shut. Then the saints used their wings and mounted to the top of the wall of the City. Jesus was also with them; his crown looked brilliant and glorious. It was a crown within a crown, seven in number. The crowns of the saints were of the most pure gold, decked with stars. Their faces shone with glory, for they were in the express image of Jesus; and as they arose, and moved all together to the top of the City, I was enraptured with the sight.

> Tada Sotona prožima uskrsle opake svojim duhom. Laska im da je vojska u Gradu malobrojna, a da je njegova vojska velika, te da mogu nadvladati svete i zauzeti Grad. Dok je Sotona okupljao svoju vojsku, sveti su bili u Gradu promatrajući ljepotu i slavu Božjega Raja. Isus je bio na njihovu čelu i vodio ih. Odjednom je ljupki Spasitelj nestao iz našega društva; ali uskoro smo čuli njegov ljupki glas kako govori: —Dođite, blagoslovljeni Oca mojega, baštinite kraljevstvo pripravljeno za vas od postanka svijeta.‘ Okupili smo se oko Isusa, i upravo kad je zatvorio vrata Grada, na opake je bila izrečena kletva. Vrata su bila zatvorena. Tada su sveti upotrijebili svoja krila i uzdigli se na vrh zida Gradskoga. Isus je također bio s njima; njegova je kruna izgledala blistavo i slavno. Bila je to kruna unutar krune, njih sedam. Krune svetih bile su od najčišćega zlata, ukrašene zvijezdama. Lica su im sjala slavom, jer su bili u potpunoj obličnosti Isusovoj; i dok su se uzdizali i svi zajedno kretali prema vrhu Grada, bio sam zanesen tim prizorom.

> "Then the wicked saw what they had lost; and fire was breathed from God upon them, and consumed them. This was the Execution of the Judgment. The wicked then received according as the saints in unison with Jesus had meted out to them during the 1000 years. The same fire from God that consumed the wicked, purified the whole earth. The broken ragged mountains melted with fervent heat, the atmosphere, also, and all the stubble was consumed. Then our inheritance opened before us, glorious and beautiful, and we inherited the whole earth made new. We all shouted with a loud voice, Glory, Alleluia.

> Tada su bezbožnici vidjeli što su izgubili; i oganj je od Boga bio puhnut na njih te ih je proždro. To je bilo izvršenje Suda. Bezbožnici su tada primili prema onome kako su im sveci, u jedinstvu s Isusom, odmjerili tijekom 1000 godina. Isti oganj od Boga koji je proždro bezbožnike pročistio je svu zemlju. Razvaljene, krševite gore rastopiše se od žestoke vrućine, kao i atmosfera, i sva strnjika bi proždrta. Tada se naša baština otvorila pred nama, slavna i lijepa, i baštinili smo svu zemlju obnovljenu. Svi smo povikali snažnim glasom: Slava, Aleluja.

> "I also saw that the shepherds should consult those in whom they have reason to have confidence, those who have been in all the messages, and are firm in all the present truth, before they advocate any new point of importance, which they may think the Bible sustains. Then the shepherds will be perfectly united, and the union of the shepherds will be felt by the church. Such a course I saw would prevent unhappy divisions, and then there would be no danger of the precious flock being divided, and the sheep scattered, without a shepherd."—

> Vidjela sam također da bi se pastiri trebali savjetovati s onima u koje imaju razloga imati povjerenje, s onima koji su bili u svim porukama i koji su čvrsti u svoj sadašnjoj istini, prije nego što počnu zastupati bilo koju novu važnu točku za koju mogu misliti da je podupire Biblija. Tada će pastiri biti savršeno sjedinjeni, a crkva će osjetiti jedinstvo pastira. Vidjela sam da bi takav postupak spriječio nesretne razdore, te tada ne bi bilo opasnosti da se dragocjeno stado podijeli i ovce rasprše, bez pastira."—

And then it concludes with five more paragraphs which I have in a box for you, because these five paragraphs out of the article are the ones that are going to end up in Early Writings. That is why these final five paragraphs have the box around them.

A zatim završava s još pet odlomaka koje sam za vas uokvirio, jer su upravo tih pet odlomaka iz članka oni koji će na kraju biti uvršteni u Early Writings. Zato je ovih posljednjih pet odlomaka uokvireno.

> "September 23d, the Lord showed me that he had stretched out his hand the second time to recover the remnant of his people, and that efforts must be redoubled in this gathering time. In the scattering time Israel was smitten and torn; but now in the gathering time God will heal and bind up his people. In the scattering, efforts made to spread the truth had but little effect, accomplished but little or nothing; but in the gathering when God has set his hand to gather his people, efforts to spread the truth will have their designed effect. All should be united and zealous in the work. I saw that it was a shame for any to refer to the scattering for examples to govern us now in the gathering; for if God does no more for us now than he did then, Israel would never be gathered. It is as necessary that the truth should be published in a paper, as preached.

> „Dana 23. rujna Gospodin mi je pokazao da je po drugi put pružio svoju ruku da vrati ostatak svoga naroda te da se napori moraju udvostručiti u ovo vrijeme sabiranja. U vrijeme raspršivanja Izrael je bio udaren i rastrgan; ali sada će, u vrijeme sabiranja, Bog izliječiti i poviti svoj narod. U raspršivanju su napori uloženi da se istina proširi imali tek malo učinka, postigli su malo ili ništa; ali u sabiranju, kada je Bog stavio svoju ruku da sabere svoj narod, napori da se istina proširi imat će svoj namjeravani učinak. Svi trebaju biti ujedinjeni i revni u djelu. Vidjela sam da je sramota da se itko poziva na raspršivanje kao na primjere koji bi nas sada trebali voditi u sabiranju; jer kad Bog sada ne bi učinio više za nas nego što je tada učinio, Izrael se nikada ne bi sabrao. Jednako je nužno da istina bude objavljena u listu kao i da bude propovijedana.“

> "The Lord showed me that the 1843 chart was directed by his hand, and that no part of it should be altered; that the figures were as he wanted them. That his hand was over and hid a mistake in some of the figures, so that none could see it, until his hand was removed.

> „Gospodin mi je pokazao da je karta iz 1843. bila vođena njegovom rukom i da se nijedan njezin dio ne smije mijenjati; da su brojke bile onakve kakvima ih je on htio. Da je njegova ruka bila nad jednom pogreškom i prikrivala je u nekim brojkama, tako da je nitko nije mogao vidjeti dok njegova ruka nije bila uklonjena.״

> "Then I saw in relation to the —Daily,' that the word —sacrifice' was supplied by man's wisdom, and does not belong to the text; and that the Lord gave the correct view of it to those who gave the judgment hour cry. When union existed, before 1844, nearly all were united on the correct view of the —Daily;' but since 1844, in the confusion, other views have been embraced, and darkness and confusion has followed.

> „Tada sam u vezi sa —Svakidašnjom' vidjela da je riječ —žrtva' umetnuta ljudskom mudrošću i da ne pripada tekstu; te da je Gospod dao ispravno razumijevanje toga onima koji su objavili poklik o času suda. Dok je postojalo jedinstvo, prije 1844., gotovo su svi bili ujedinjeni u ispravnom razumijevanju —Svakidašnje;' ali od 1844., u pomutnji, prihvaćena su druga gledišta, te su uslijedili tama i pomutnja.“

> "The Lord showed me that Time had not been a test since 1844, and that time will never again be a test.

> Gospodin mi je pokazao da vrijeme nije bilo kušnja od 1844. godine i da vrijeme nikada više neće biti kušnja.

> "Then I was pointed to some who are in the great error, that the saints are yet to go to Old Jerusalem, &c., before the Lord comes. Such a view is calculated to take the mind and interest from the present work of God, under the message of the third angel; for if we are to go to Jerusalem, then our minds will naturally be there, and our means will be withheld from other uses, to get the saints to Jerusalem. I saw that the reason why they were left to go into this great error, is because they have not confessed and forsaken their errors, that they have been in for a number of years past." Review and Herald, November 1, 1850."

> „Tada mi je pozornost bila usmjerena na neke koji se nalaze u velikoj zabludi, da sveci još trebaju otići u Stari Jeruzalem itd. prije nego što Gospodin dođe. Takvo je gledište prikladno odvratiti um i zanimanje od sadašnjega Božjeg djela, pod porukom trećega anđela; jer ako trebamo ići u Jeruzalem, tada će naše misli prirodno biti ondje, a naša će sredstva biti uskraćena drugim namjenama kako bi se sveci doveli u Jeruzalem. Vidjela sam da je razlog zbog kojega im je bilo dopušteno da zapadnu u ovu veliku zabludu to što nisu priznali ni napustili svoje zablude, u kojima su bili tijekom niza proteklih godina.“ Review and Herald, 1. studenoga 1850.

Do you see them? Do you know what I am talking about?

Vidite li ih? Znate li o čemu govorim?

Okay. If we go into these five final paragraphs, you will see some things that are different in the original than you will find in Early Writings, page 74.

Dobro. Ako uđemo u ovih pet završnih odlomaka, vidjet ćete neke stvari koje su u izvorniku drukčije od onoga što ćete naći u Ranim spisima, stranica 74.

FROM THE AUDIENCE: So, you are saying these in the box are the originals?

IZ PUBLIKE: Dakle, vi kažete da su ovi u kutiji izvornici?

These in the box, these are the last five paragraphs in this original article, and this box is around them. These five paragraphs are what ultimately end up in Early Writings, page 74.

Ovo u okviru, to su posljednjih pet odlomaka u ovom izvornom članku, i ovaj okvir ih okružuje. Tih pet odlomaka ono je što na koncu završava u Early Writings, str. 74.

But, when was this printed, when was this written? November 1850.

Ali, kada je to bilo tiskano, kada je to bilo napisano? Studenoga 1850.

So, I have in bold-faced the things that are going to be changed from these five paragraphs. There is going to be a metamorphosis with this; because, in the very near future in 1851 the book A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White is going to be printed and they are going to take these paragraphs and put them in A Sketch of the Christian Experience and View of Ellen G. White. And from here [article in Review and Herald, November 1850] to A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White there are some minor editorial changes that happened to these five paragraphs. And then from A Sketch of the Christian Experience and View of Ellen G. White in 1851 to Early Writings in 1882, there are some more editorial changes, and those editorial changes are what make Early Writings, page 74, convoluted.

Dakle, podebljano sam označio ono što će biti izmijenjeno u ovih pet odlomaka. U vezi s ovime doći će do svojevrsne metamorfoze; jer će u vrlo skoroj budućnosti, 1851. godine, biti tiskana knjiga A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White, te će uzeti ove odlomke i uvrstiti ih u A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White. I odavde [članak u Review and Herald, studeni 1850.] do A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White postoje neke manje uredničke izmjene koje su učinjene u ovih pet odlomaka. A zatim, od A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White iz 1851. do Early Writings iz 1882., postoje još neke dodatne uredničke izmjene, i upravo su te uredničke izmjene ono što stranicu 74 knjige Early Writings čini zamršenom.

So, in these five paragraphs that conclude in the original manuscript, in the first paragraph, "September 23d, the Lord showed me . . . ," that is going to be changed.

Dakle, u ovih pet odlomaka koji se završavaju u izvornom rukopisu, u prvom odlomku, „23. rujna Gospodin mi je pokazao . . .”, to će biti promijenjeno.

In the next paragraphs: "Then I saw . . ."; "Then I saw . . ."; The Lord showed me . . . "; and, "Then I was pointed to . . ."; these things get some minor adjustments.

U sljedećim odlomcima: „Tada sam vidjela . . .”; „Tada sam vidjela . . .”; „Gospodin mi je pokazao . . .”; i: „Tada mi je bila ukazana pozornost na . . .”; ove stvari dobivaju neke manje prilagodbe.

Shown Ten Primary Truths in Thirteen Paragraphs

Prikazano deset temeljnih istina u trinaest odlomaka

But, what I want you to see in these thirteen paragraphs from the original article, she has shown ten primary things.

Ali, ono što želim da vidite u ovih trinaest odlomaka izvornoga članka jest da je pokazala deset temeljnih stvari.

And now I remember why I have these things bold-faced. It is not because those are going to get changed. I am emphasizing something for you, if you will see, that in these thirteen paragraphs she was shown this . . . , she was shown this . . . , she was shown this . . . , she was shown this. And when she was shown one thing, after she tells us about it, then she is shown something that is not necessarily connected to what she was just shown: "I was shown this . . . ; I was shown this . . . ; I was shown this . . . .

A sada se sjećam zašto su mi ove stvari otisnute podebljano. Nije zato što će se one mijenjati. Nešto vam naglašavam, ako želite uvidjeti, da joj je u ovih trinaest odlomaka bilo pokazano ovo . . . , bilo joj je pokazano ovo . . . , bilo joj je pokazano ovo . . . , bilo joj je pokazano ovo. A kada joj je bilo pokazano jedno, nakon što nam o tome kaže, tada joj je pokazano nešto što nije nužno povezano s onim što joj je upravo bilo pokazano: „Bilo mi je pokazano ovo . . . ; bilo mi je pokazano ovo . . . ; bilo mi je pokazano ovo . . . .”

You can check me out and read it for yourself, but she was shown ten primary truths in these thirteen paragraphs.

Možete to provjeriti i sami pročitati, ali u tih trinaest odlomaka bilo joj je pokazano deset temeljnih istina.

Here is what she was shown. She was shown about God's love, about offerings, about prayer for the sick, about the communion service, about the Seven Last Plagues connected with the Millennium, about new light, about the gathering after 1844, about the publishing work, about the 1843 Chart, about the "Daily," about "time" as a test, and about pilgrimages to Jerusalem. And if you read it carefully, this is not a flow of thought. This is a very, "I was shown this," and she records what she was shown; and, she was shown something that is not necessarily connected. You have to see that; because, as they begin to pull these paragraphs together, they begin to create the thought that she saying something that she really did not say.

Evo što joj je bilo pokazano. Bilo joj je pokazano o Božjoj ljubavi, o prinosima, o molitvi za bolesne, o bogoslužju Večere Gospodnje, o Sedam posljednjih zala povezanih s Tisućljećem, o novoj svjetlosti, o okupljanju nakon 1844., o izdavačkom djelu, o Karti iz 1843., o „Svakidašnjoj”, o „vremenu” kao kušnji, i o hodočašćima u Jeruzalem. I ako to pažljivo čitate, to nije tijek misli. To je vrlo jasno: „Bilo mi je pokazano ovo”, i ona bilježi ono što joj je bilo pokazano; i bilo joj je pokazano nešto što nije nužno povezano. To morate uvidjeti; jer, kako oni počinju povezivati te odlomke, počinju stvarati misao da ona govori nešto što zapravo nije rekla.

Review and Herald, November 1, 1850

Review and Herald, 1. studenoga 1850.

Okay. Notice the first paragraph of the five paragraphs that we are dealing with from November 1850.

U redu. Obratite pozornost na prvi odlomak od pet odlomaka kojima se bavimo iz studenoga 1850.

> "September 23d, the Lord showed me that he had stretched out his hand the second time to recover the remnant of his people, and that efforts must be redoubled in this gathering time. In the scattering time Israel was smitten and torn; but now in the gathering time God will heal and bind up his people. In the scattering, efforts made to spread the truth had but little effect, accomplished but little or nothing; but in the gathering when God has set his hand to gather his people, efforts to spread the truth will have their designed effect. All should be united and zealous in the work. I saw that it was a shame for any to refer to the scattering for examples to govern us now in the gathering; for if God does no more for us now than he did then, Israel would never be gathered. It is as necessary that the truth should be published in a paper, as preached."—

> „Dana 23. rujna Gospodin mi je pokazao da je po drugi put ispružio svoju ruku da povrati ostatak svoga naroda te da napori u ovo vrijeme sabiranja moraju biti udvostručeni. U vrijeme raspršenja Izrael je bio udaren i razderan; ali sada, u vrijeme sabiranja, Bog će iscijeliti i poviti svoj narod. U raspršenju su napori uloženi da se istina proširi imali tek malo učinka, postigli su malo ili ništa; ali u sabiranju, kada je Bog stavio svoju ruku da sabere svoj narod, napori da se istina proširi imat će svoj namijenjeni učinak. Svi trebaju biti ujedinjeni i revni u djelu. Vidjela sam da je sramota da se itko poziva na raspršenje kao na primjer koji bi nas sada trebao voditi u sabiranju; jer kad Bog ne bi učinio više za nas sada nego što je učinio tada, Izrael nikada ne bi bio sabran. Jednako je nužno da istina bude objavljena u listu kao i propovijedana.”—

The last sentence from that paragraph, it says, "It is as necessary that the truth should be published in a paper, as preached." Okay. This thought is going to be dropped.

Posljednja rečenica iz toga odlomka glasi: „Jednako je nužno da se istina objavljuje u tiskanom glasilu kao i da se propovijeda.” Dobro. Ta će misao biti odbačena.

The second paragraph of the five that we are considering, where it says, "The Lord showed me," you see I have it underlined.

Drugi od pet odlomaka koje razmatramo, gdje stoji: „Gospodin mi je pokazao“, vidite da sam to podcrtao.

—"The Lord showed me that the 1843 chart was directed by his hand, and that no part of it should be altered; that the figures were as he wanted them. That his hand was over and hid a mistake in some of the figures, so that none could see it, until his hand was removed."—

—„Gospodin mi je pokazao da je karta iz 1843. bila vođena njegovom rukom i da se nijedan njezin dio ne smije mijenjati; da su brojke bile onakve kakvima ih je on želio. Da je njegova ruka bila nad njima i prikrila pogrešku u nekima od brojki, tako da je nitko nije mogao vidjeti dok njegova ruka nije bila uklonjena.”—

The reason I have anything underlined in these four paragraphs at the top of the page is that those are going to have editorial changes when it gets reprinted in A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White in 1851.

Razlog zbog kojega imam išta podcrtano u ova četiri odlomka na vrhu stranice jest taj što će ondje biti uredničkih izmjena kada to bude ponovno tiskano u djelu A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White 1851.

Okay. "The Lord showed me," is going to be changed; "by his hand" is going to be changed, "that no part of it should be altered" is going to be changed.

U redu. „Gospodin mi je pokazao“ bit će promijenjeno; „svojom rukom“ bit će promijenjeno; „da se nijedan njegov dio ne smije izmijeniti“ bit će promijenjeno.

Then in the next bold-faced paragraph [fourth paragraph] on the page says,

Zatim u sljedećem odlomku otisnutom podebljanim slovima [četvrti odlomak] na stranici stoji,

—"The Lord showed me that Time had not been a test since 1844, and that time will never again be a test."—

—„Gospodin mi je pokazao da vrijeme nije bilo kušnja od 1844. godine i da vrijeme više nikada neće biti kušnja.”—

"The Lord showed me," that is going to be changed. What they are going to do the next year in A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White, they are going to take that one-sentence paragraph and they are going to combine it with the previous paragraph. They are going to turn it into one paragraph.

„Gospodin mi je pokazao“, to će biti promijenjeno. Ono što će učiniti sljedeće godine u djelu A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White jest da će taj odlomak od jedne rečenice spojiti s prethodnim odlomkom. Pretvorit će ga u jedan odlomak.

But, also, if a word or words are bold-faced, there is going to be some other types of changes; and, I will give you an example of what I mean.

No, također, ako je riječ ili više riječi otisnuto podebljanim slovima, doći će do nekih drugih promjena u slogu; i dat ću vam primjer onoga što mislim.

And in the third paragraph it says,

A u trećem odlomku stoji,

—"Then I saw in relation to the —Daily,' that the word —sacrifice' was supplied by man's wisdom, and does not belong to the text; and that the Lord gave the correct view of it to those who gave the judgment hour cry. When union existed, before 1844, nearly all were united on the correct view of the —Daily;' but since 1844, in the confusion, other views have been embraced, and darkness and confusion has followed."—

—„Tada sam u vezi sa —Svakidašnjom' vidjela da je riječ —žrtva' dodana ljudskom mudrošću i da ne pripada tekstu; te da je Gospod dao ispravno razumijevanje toga onima koji su objavljivali vijest o času suda. Kada je vladalo jedinstvo, prije 1844., gotovo su svi bili ujedinjeni u ispravnom razumijevanju —Svakidašnje;' ali od 1844., u pometnji, prihvaćena su druga gledišta, te su uslijedili tama i pometnja.”—

Then in the next bold-faced paragraph [fourth paragraph] on the page says,

Zatim u sljedećem odlomku otisnutom podebljanim slovima [četvrti odlomak] na stranici stoji,

"The Lord showed me that Time had not been a test since 1844, and that time will never again be a test."—

„Gospodin mi je pokazao da vrijeme nije bilo kušnja od 1844. godine i da vrijeme više nikada neće biti kušnja.“—

"The Lord showed me," that is going to be changed.

„Gospodin mi je pokazao“ — to će biti promijenjeno.

What they are going to do the next year in A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White, they are going to take that one-sentence paragraph and they are going to combine it with the previous paragraph. They are going to turn it into one paragraph.

Ono što će sljedeće godine učiniti u djelu A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White jest da će taj odlomak od jedne rečenice spojiti s prethodnim odlomkom. Pretvorit će ga u jedan odlomak.

And they are going to change "The Lord showed me" to "I was also shown." Okay? They are going to make those two paragraphs one paragraph, and they are going to change it to, "I was also shown," in 1851.

I promijenit će „Gospodin mi je pokazao” u „I meni je bilo pokazano.” U redu? Ta će dva odlomka spojiti u jedan odlomak, i promijenit će to u „I meni je bilo pokazano”, 1851.

—"Then I was pointed to some who are in the great error, that the saints are yet to go to Old Jerusalem, &c., before the Lord comes. Such a view is calculated to take the mind and interest from the present work of God, under the message of the third angel; for if we are to go to Jerusalem, then our minds will naturally be there, and our means will be withheld from other uses, to get the saints to Jerusalem. I saw that the reason why they were left to go into this great error, is because they have not confessed and forsaken their errors, that they have been in for a number of years past." Review and Herald, November 1, 1850.

—„Tada mi je bila ukazana pozornost na neke koji se nalaze u velikoj zabludi, da sveti još trebaju otići u Stari Jeruzalem itd., prije nego što Gospodin dođe. Takvo je gledište prikladno odvratiti um i zanimanje od sadašnjega Božjeg djela pod porukom trećega anđela; jer ako trebamo ići u Jeruzalem, tada će naši umovi prirodno biti ondje, a naša će sredstva biti uskraćena drugim potrebama kako bi se svete dovelo u Jeruzalem. Vidjela sam da je razlog zašto im je bilo dopušteno pasti u tu veliku zabludu taj što nisu priznali i napustili svoje zablude u kojima su bili tijekom niza proteklih godina.” Review and Herald, 1. studenoga 1850.

But, when you get to Early Writings, do you know what they do? They drop the "I was also shown," where in Early Writings this one paragraph, it is going to say, "When union existed before 1844, nearly all were united on the correct view of the —Daily,' but since 1844, in the confusion, other views have been embraced, and darkness and confusion has followed." They dropped the "I was also shown," and the next sentence is, "time had not been a test since 1844." Suddenly you do not know that this thought about time not being a test is one of things that she was specifically shown. You believe that this was part of her light on the Daily in the false view producing confusion.

Ali, kada dođete do Spisa ranih, znate li što oni čine? Izostavljaju izraz: „Također mi je pokazano“, gdje će u Spisima ranih ovaj jedan odlomak reći: „Kad je jedinstvo postojalo prije 1844., gotovo svi bili su ujedinjeni u ispravnom razumijevanju — Svagdašnje žrtve, ali od 1844., u zbrci, bila su prihvaćena druga gledišta, te su uslijedili tama i zbrka.“ Izostavili su „Također mi je pokazano“, a sljedeća rečenica glasi: „vrijeme nije bilo kušnja od 1844.“ Odjednom ne znate da je ta misao o tome da vrijeme nije bilo kušnja jedna od stvari koje su joj bile posebno pokazane. Vjerujete da je to bilo dio njezine svjetlosti o Svagdašnjoj žrtvi, pri čemu je lažno gledište proizvelo zbrku.

That is not the original. You have the original. Check it out.

To nije izvornik. Vi imate izvornik. Provjerite ga.

The Next Step (Step Two)—1851 A Sketch of the Christian Experience and View of Ellen G. White

Sljedeći korak (drugi korak) — 1851. Kratak prikaz kršćanskog iskustva i pogleda Ellen G. White

Then underneath this, you have, A Sketch of the Christian Experience and View of Ellen G. White, printed in 1851; and, you have the breakdowns of the changes that took place, and there is a very, very significant change.

Zatim, ispod ovoga, imate A Sketch of the Christian Experience and View of Ellen G. White, tiskano 1851. godine; i imate prikaze raščlambe promjena koje su se dogodile, a postoji i jedna vrlo, vrlo značajna promjena.

"September 23d, the Lord shewed [formerly—"showed"] me that he had stretched out his hand the second time to recover the remnant of his people, and that efforts must be redoubled in this gathering time. In the scattering, Israel was smitten and torn; but now in the gathering time God will heal and bind up his people. In the scattering, efforts made to spread the truth had but little effect, accomplished but little or nothing; but in the gathering, when God has set his hand to gather his people, efforts to spread the truth will have their designed effect. All should be united and zealous in the work. I saw that it was wrong for any to refer to the scattering for examples to govern us now in the gathering; for if God does no more for us now than he did then, Israel would never be gathered. [Removed: It is as necessary that the truth should be published in a paper, as preached.] [Paragraphs Combined] I have seen [formerly—"the Lord showed me] that the 1843 chart was directed by the hand of the Lord, [formerly—"by His hand"] and that it should not be altered; [formerly—"no part of it should be altered"] that the figures were as he wanted them. That his hand was over, and hid a mistake in some of the figures, so that none could see it, until his hand was removed.

„Dana 23. rujna Gospodin mi je pokazao [ranije—„showed”] da je po drugi put ispružio svoju ruku da povrati Ostatak svoga naroda i da napore valja udvostručiti u ovo vrijeme sabiranja. U rasijanju je Izrael bio udaren i rastrgan; ali sada, u vrijeme sabiranja, Bog će iscijeliti i poviti svoj narod. U rasijanju su napori uloženi da se istina proširi imali tek malen učinak, postigli su malo ili ništa; ali u sabiranju, kada je Bog stavio svoju ruku da sabere svoj narod, napori da se istina proširi imat će svoj namjeravani učinak. Svi trebaju biti ujedinjeni i revni u djelu. Vidjela sam da je pogrešno da se itko poziva na rasijanje kao na primjere koji bi nas sada trebali upravljati u sabiranju; jer kad Bog sada ne bi učinio više za nas nego što je učinio tada, Izrael nikada ne bi bio sabran. [Uklonjeno: Jednako je nužno da istina bude objavljena u novinama, kao što se propovijeda.] [Odlomci spojeni] Vidjela sam [ranije—„Gospodin mi je pokazao”] da je karta iz 1843. bila upravljena rukom Gospodnjom [ranije—„njegovom rukom”] i da se ne smije mijenjati; [ranije—„nijedan njezin dio ne smije se mijenjati”] da su brojke bile onakve kakvima ih je on htio. Da je njegova ruka bila nad njima i prikrila pogrešku u nekim brojkama, tako da je nitko nije mogao vidjeti dok njegova ruka nije bila uklonjena.“

"Then I saw in relation to the —Daily,' that the word —sacrifice' was supplied by man's wisdom, and does not belong to the text; and that the Lord gave the correct view of it to those who gave the judgment hour cry. When union existed, before 1844, nearly all were united on the correct view of the —Daily;' but since 1844, in the confusion, other views have been embraced, and darkness and confusion have followed. [Paragraphs Combined] I have also seen [Formerly—"the Lord showed me"] that time had not been a test since 1844, and that time will never again be a test.]" A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White, ExV 61–62.

„Tada sam vidjela u vezi sa —Svakidašnjom', da je riječ —žrtva' dodana ljudskom mudrošću i da ne pripada tekstu; te da je Gospod dao ispravno razumijevanje toga onima koji su objavljivali vijest o času suda. Dok je postojalo jedinstvo, prije 1844., gotovo su svi bili složni u ispravnom shvaćanju —Svakidašnje'; ali od 1844., u pomutnji, prihvaćena su druga gledišta, te su uslijedili tama i pomutnja. [Odlomci spojeni] Također sam vidjela [Nekadašnje —„Gospod mi je pokazao”] da vrijeme nije bilo kušnja od 1844. i da vrijeme nikada više neće biti kušnja.]” A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White, ExV 61–62.

Time not Connected with the Message of the Third Angel

Vrijeme koje nije povezano s porukom trećega anđela

Ellen White had a different vision than the vision that she had that ultimately ends up in Early Writings. She had several visions; but, she had a vision where she was told something; she was told one paragraph, and she wrote it down.

Ellen White imala je drugo viđenje od onoga viđenja koje je naposljetku uvršteno u Rane spise. Imala je nekoliko viđenja; no imala je viđenje u kojem joj je nešto bilo rečeno; bio joj je izrečen jedan odlomak, i ona ga je zapisala.

"The Lord has shown me that the message of the third angel must go, and be proclaimed to the scattered children of the Lord, and that it should not be hung on time; for time never will be a test again. I saw that some were getting a false excitement arising from preaching time; that the third angel's message was stronger than time can be. I saw that this message can stand on its own foundation, and that it needs not time to strengthen it, and that it will go in mighty power, and do its work, and will be cut short in righteousness." A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White, ExV 48.

„Gospodin mi je pokazao da poruka trećega anđela mora poći i biti objavljena raspršenoj djeci Gospodnjoj, te da ne smije biti vezana uz vrijeme; jer vrijeme više nikada neće biti kušnja. Vidjela sam da su neki zadobivali lažno uzbuđenje koje je proizlazilo iz propovijedanja vremena; da je poruka trećega anđela snažnija nego što vrijeme može biti. Vidjela sam da ta poruka može stajati na vlastitom temelju i da joj nije potrebno vrijeme da je učvrsti, te da će ići u silnoj sili, izvršiti svoje djelo i biti skraćena u pravednosti.” A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White, ExV 48.

What is she speaking about there? That we should never connect the Third Angel's Message with time again, right?

O čemu ona ondje govori? Da poruku trećega anđela više nikada ne bismo trebali ponovno povezivati s vremenom, zar ne?

Amen? Are you with me?

Amen? Jeste li sa mnom?

Where do you find this? Where is it located?

Gdje to nalazite? Gdje se to nalazi?

FROM THE AUDIENCE: (No response.)

IZ PUBLIKE: (Nema odgovora.)

FROM THE AUDIENCE: A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views.

IZ SLUŠATELJSTVA: Nacrt kršćanskog iskustva i gledišta.

A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White, page 48, page 48.

Skica kršćanskog iskustva i gledišta Ellen G. White, stranica 48, stranica 48.

Okay. Where do we find the passage that we are discussing that is derived from Review and Herald, November 1850; where is that located in A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White? Well, it is located, if you back up in your notes, it is located in A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White, page 61 and page 62.

U redu. Gdje nalazimo odlomak o kojem raspravljamo, a koji potječe iz Review and Herald, studeni 1850.; gdje se on nalazi u A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White? Pa, nalazi se, ako se vratite unatrag u svojim bilješkama, u A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White, na stranici 61 i stranici 62.

You have a vision in A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White that is recorded on page 48; then you have the vision that ultimately is going to end up in Early Writings, on pages 61 and 62. They are separated by 13 or 14 pages, right?

Imate viđenje u knjizi A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White koje je zabilježeno na 48. stranici; zatim imate viđenje koje će na koncu završiti u knjizi Early Writings, na stranicama 61 i 62. Razdvojena su s 13 ili 14 stranica, zar ne?

And what are they going to do when it comes to Early Writings? They are going to take this paragraph from page 48 and they are going to insert it right after her statement that time is no longer a test. They are going to put two visions together.

A što će učiniti kada je riječ o Ranih spisa? Uzet će ovaj odlomak sa stranice 48 i umetnuti ga odmah nakon njezine izjave da vrijeme više nije kušnja. Spojit će dva viđenja.

Are you following what I mean?

Shvaćate li što želim reći?

MAN IN THE AUDIENCE: Yes.

ČOVJEK U PUBLIKI: Da.

Are you following what I mean?

Pratite li što želim reći?

INDIVIDUAL ADDRESSED IN THE AUDIENCE: (Affirmation.)

POJEDINAC OSLJOVLJEN U PUBLIKI: (Potvrda.)

Okay, because you are the one that I am seeing less confirmation with.

U redu, jer si ti onaj za kojega vidim manje potvrde.

The Last Step (Step Three)—1882 Early Writings

Posljednji korak (treći korak) — Rani spisi, 1882.

Okay. Now, I am back to page 6 of your notes; and, now you have Early Writings again.

U redu. Sada sam se vratio na 6. stranicu vaših bilježaka; a sada opet imate Rani spisi.

> "September 23, . . . I have seen that the 1843 chart was directed by the hand of the Lord, and that it should not be altered; that the figures were as He wanted them; that His hand was over and hid a mistake in some of the figures, so that none could see it, until His hand was removed.

> „23. rujna, . . . Vidjela sam da je karta iz 1843. bila vođena rukom Gospodnjom i da se ne smije mijenjati; da su brojke bile onakve kakve ih je On htio; da je Njegova ruka bila nad njima i prikrila pogrešku u nekim od brojki, tako da je nitko nije mogao vidjeti dok Njegova ruka nije bila uklonjena.

> "Then I saw in relation to the —daily' (Daniel 8:12) that the word —sacrifice' was supplied by man's wisdom, and does not belong to the text, and that the Lord gave the correct view of it to those who gave the judgment hour cry. When union existed, before 1844, nearly all were united on the correct view of the —daily'; but in the confusion since 1844, other views have been embraced, and darkness and confusion have followed. Time has not been a test since 1844, and it will never again be a test.

> Tada sam vidjela, u vezi sa „svagdašnjom” (Daniel 8,12), da je riječ „žrtva” dodana ljudskom mudrošću i da ne pripada tekstu, te da je Gospod dao ispravno razumijevanje toga onima koji su objavili navještaj o času suda. Dok je postojalo jedinstvo, prije 1844., gotovo su svi bili složni u ispravnom razumijevanju „svagdašnje”; ali u pomutnji nakon 1844. prihvaćena su druga gledišta, a uslijedili su tama i zbrka. Vrijeme nije bilo kušnja od 1844., niti će ikada više biti kušnja.

> "The Lord has shown me that the message of the third angel must go, and be proclaimed to the scattered children of the Lord, but it must not be hung on time. I saw that some were getting a false excitement, arising from preaching time; but the third angel's message is stronger than time can be. I saw that this message can stand on its own foundation and needs not time to strengthen it; and that it will go in mighty power, and do its work, and will be cut short in righteousness.

> Gospodin mi je pokazao da poruka trećega anđela mora poći i biti objavljena raspršenoj djeci Gospodnjoj, ali ne smije biti vezana uz vrijeme. Vidjela sam da su neki zadobivali lažno uzbuđenje, nastalo propovijedanjem o vremenu; ali poruka trećega anđela snažnija je nego što vrijeme može biti. Vidjela sam da ta poruka može stajati na vlastitu temelju i da joj nije potrebno vrijeme da bi je ojačalo; te da će poći u silnoj sili, izvršiti svoje djelo i biti skraćena u pravednosti.

> "Then I was pointed to some who are in the great error of believing that it is their duty to go to Old Jerusalem . . ." Early Writings, 74-76.

> „Tada mi je bila skrenuta pozornost na neke koji su u velikoj zabludi vjerujući da je njihova dužnost otići u Stari Jeruzalem . . .” Early Writings, 74–76.

And the reason that this is bold-faced, this is the paragraph here where it says, ". . . When union existed, before 1844, nearly all were united on the correct view of the —daily'; but in the confusion since 1844, other views have been embraced, and darkness and confusion have followed. Time has not been a test since 1844, and it will never again be a test." you need to remember that originally in her first record of this vision, she said, "I was shown that time has not been a test since 1844," and it was a different paragraph. She had made sure that there was a distinction in what she was shown about the Daily and what was shown her about time being a test; and that the next paragraph, which is talking about no connecting time with the Third Angel's Message, it was not in the original vision. It was on page 48 of Life Sketches, not pages 61 and 62.

A razlog zbog kojega je ovo otisnuto podebljanim slovima jest taj što je ovo odlomak ovdje gdje stoji: „. . . Kad je postojalo jedinstvo, prije 1844., gotovo svi bili su ujedinjeni u ispravnom razumijevanju ‘svagdašnje’; no u zbrci nakon 1844. prihvaćena su druga gledišta, a slijedili su tama i pomutnja. Vrijeme nije bilo kušnja od 1844., niti će ikada više biti kušnja.” Trebate imati na umu da je ona izvorno, u svom prvom zapisu ove vizije, rekla: „Pokazano mi je da vrijeme nije bilo kušnja od 1844.”, i to je bio drugi odlomak. Pobrinula se da postoji razlika između onoga što joj je bilo pokazano o Svagdašnjoj i onoga što joj je bilo pokazano o tome da je vrijeme kušnja; te da sljedeći odlomak, koji govori o tome da nema povezivanja vremena s porukom trećega anđela, nije bio u izvornoj viziji. To je bilo na 48. stranici knjige Life Sketches, a ne na stranicama 61 i 62.

But, when you come to Early Writings in 1882, they put them together; and, therefore, when you get to the 1930s and you are going off into deep darkness in Adventism, and Willie White says that when you are studying the Daily you must study it in the context of time—"Sorry, Willie, your responsibility was to be the one that gave the accurate historical record of the Spirit of Prophecy. You were to be the one that defeated the Spirit of Prophecy. And in your presentation of Early Writings, page 75, you disregarded the original sources, and those original sources say that when you lifted the argument that the Daily has to be considered in the context of time in Early Writings, 74, that is absolutely untrue."—It is untrue! It cannot be sustained by the record in the Spirit of Prophecy. It cannot be sustained by the history of that time period.

No, kada dođete do *Early Writings* 1882. godine, oni su ih spojili; i stoga, kada dođete do 1930-ih i otiskujete se u duboku tamu unutar adventizma, a Willie White kaže da, kada proučavate Svagdašnju, morate je proučavati u kontekstu vremena—„Žao mi je, Willie, tvoja je odgovornost bila da budeš onaj koji će dati točan povijesni zapis Duha proroštva. Ti si trebao biti onaj koji će poraziti Duh proroštva. A u svom prikazu *Early Writings*, stranica 75, zanemario si izvorne izvore, a ti izvorni izvori kažu da je, kada si preuzeo tvrdnju da se Svagdašnja mora razmatrati u kontekstu vremena u *Early Writings*, 74, to apsolutno neistinito.”—To je neistinito! To se ne može poduprijeti zapisom u Duhu proroštva. To se ne može poduprijeti poviješću toga vremenskog razdoblja.

Okay. Point 1, Sister White says that there is a correct view of the Daily, in Early Writings, 74. The primary argument that is foisted later on in history is that when you study that passage in Early Writings, 74, you have to place it in the context of time setting. That argument is bogus; it is not valid!

U redu. Točka 1, sestra White kaže da postoji ispravno razumijevanje Svagdašnje, u Ranim spisima, 74. Primarni argument koji se kasnije nameće u povijesti glasi da, kada proučavate taj odlomak u Ranim spisima, 74, morate ga smjestiti u kontekst određivanja vremena. Taj je argument lažan; nije valjan!

So, now we are stuck with just the position that there is a correct view of the Daily. Okay? But, we are going to take up one more thought out of this paragraph.

Dakle, sada nam preostaje samo stajalište da postoji ispravno gledište o Svagdašnjoj. U redu? No, iz ovoga ćemo odlomka razmotriti još jednu misao.

It says, "September 23d, the Lord showed me . . . ." September 23d, when? 1850: "September 23d, 1850, the Lord showed me."

Kaže: „23. rujna Gospodin mi je pokazao . . . .“ Dvadeset trećega rujna, kada? Godine 1850.: „23. rujna 1850. Gospodin mi je pokazao.“

What did He show her?

Što joj je pokazao?

Well one of the things that He showed her was that since 1844, other views of the Daily have been embraced.

Jedna od stvari koje joj je pokazao bila je ta da su od 1844. godine prihvaćena i druga gledišta o Svagdašnjoj.

"September 23, 1850 the Lord showed me . . . . When union existed, before 1844, nearly all were united on the correct view of the —Daily;' but since 1844, in the confusion, other views have been embraced, and darkness and confusion has followed. The Review and Herald, November 1850."

„Dana 23. rujna 1850. Gospodin mi je pokazao . . . . Kada je postojalo jedinstvo, prije 1844., gotovo su svi bili ujedinjeni u ispravnom razumijevanju ‘Svakidašnje’; ali od 1844., u zbrci, prihvaćena su druga gledišta, a uslijedili su tama i pomutnja. The Review and Herald, studeni 1850.”

March 1850 The "Daily" is the Earthly Sanctuary

Ožujak 1850. „Svagdašnja“ je zemaljsko Svetište

So, on the bottom of page 6 you have a paragraph that comes from the Review and Herald of March 1850, and it is an article by David Arnold.

Dakle, pri dnu 6. stranice imate odlomak koji potječe iz časopisa Review and Herald iz ožujka 1850., a to je članak Davida Arnolda.

> "He [Daniel] also sees the same oppressive power —standing up against the Prince of princes;' thus putting an end to the legality of all the daily sacrifices instituted at Sinai to be daily observed until the Seed should come. Here Christ, the substance, or great antitypical sacrifice was slain by the Roman soldiers. Thus by Rome —the daily sacrifice was taken away,' and the place of his sanctuary was cast down by Titus, a Roman general, when he destroyed the city of Jerusalem, and the temple of God, which contained —the sanctuary.' Here commenced the fulfillment of Christ's prophetic declaration. And they shall fall by the edge of the sword and shall be led away captive into all nations, and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, UNTIL THE TIMES OF THE GENTILES BE FULFILLED.' Luke 21:24." David Arnold, Review and Herald, March 1850, Volume 1, Number 8.

> „On [Daniel] također vidi istu tlačiteljsku silu — kako ustaje protiv Kneza knezova;“ čime se dokida zakonitost svih svakodnevnih žrtava ustanovljenih na Sinaju da se svakodnevno prinose sve dok ne dođe Sjeme. Ovdje je Krist, bit ili velika protupralikovna žrtva, bio ubijen od rimskih vojnika. Tako je po Rimu — „svagdašnja žrtva bila uklonjena“, a mjesto njegova svetišta bilo oboreno od Tita, rimskog vojskovođe, kada je razorio grad Jeruzalem i hram Božji, koji je sadržavao — „svetište“. Ovdje je započelo ispunjenje Kristove proročke izjave: „I past će od oštrice mača i bit će odvedeni u sužanjstvo među sve narode, i Jeruzalem će gaziti pogani, DOK SE NE ISPUNE VREMENA POGANA.“ Luka 21:24.“ David Arnold, Review and Herald, ožujak 1850., svezak 1, broj 8.

In this article David Arnold teaches that the Daily in the Book of Daniel represents the Jewish sanctuary in Jerusalem that was removed by Pagan Rome in AD70.

U ovom članku David Arnold poučava da Svagdanja žrtva u Knjizi proroka Daniela predstavlja židovsko Svetište u Jeruzalemu, koje je poganski Rim uklonio 70. godine poslije Krista.

September 1850 The "Daily" is Christ's Sanctuary Ministry

Rujan 1850. „Svagdanja služba” jest Kristova služba u Svetištu

Then in September 1850, the same year—and by the way, who is the editor of the Review and Herald in 1850? His name is James White.

Zatim u rujnu 1850., iste godine — i usput, tko je urednik časopisa Review and Herald 1850. godine? Njegovo ime je James White.

James White, then, in September of 1850, he prints an article by Crosier which teaches that the Daily represents Christ's Sanctuary ministry.

Stoga James White u rujnu 1850. objavljuje članak Crosiera koji uči da Svagdašnje predstavlja Kristovu službu u Svetištu.

Now, James White does not teach it directly, but people take the inference there and say that is what he is teaching. And why am I saying this? I am saying this for his reason: In September of 1850, Sister White says that since 1844 other views of the Daily have been embraced in darkness and confusion has followed.

Dakle, James White to ne naučava izravno, ali ljudi iz toga izvode zaključak i kažu da je to ono što on naučava. A zašto to govorim? To govorim iz ovoga razloga: u rujnu 1850. sestra White kaže da su od 1844. godine druga gledišta o Svagdašnjoj bila prihvaćena u tami te da je uslijedila zabuna.

These two views [Arnold and Crosier] are not the Pioneer view that the Daily is Paganism.

Ta dva gledišta [Arnold i Crosier] nisu pionirsko gledište da je Svagdanjica poganstvo.

And on page 7 you have the two paragraphs from Crosier's article, where he is inferring that the Daily is Christ's Sanctuary ministry.

A na 7. stranici imate dva odlomka iz Crosierova članka, u kojima on zaključuje da je Svagdašnje Kristova služba u Svetištu.

> "—And the place of His Sanctuary was cast down;' Daniel 8:11. This casting down was in the days and by the means of the Roman power; therefore, the Sanctuary of this text was not the Earth, nor Palestine, because the former was cast down at the fall, more than 4,000 years, and the latter at the captivity, more than 700 years previous to the event of this passage, and neither by Roman agency.

> „—I mjesto Njegova Svetišta bijaše oboreno;” Daniel 8:11. Ovo obaranje zbilo se u dane i posredstvom rimske vlasti; stoga Svetište iz ovoga teksta nije bila Zemlja, niti Palestina, jer je prvo bilo oboreno pri padu, više od 4.000 godina prije, a drugo pri sužanjstvu, više od 700 godina prije događaja o kojemu govori ovaj odlomak, i nijedno nije bilo oboreno rimskim djelovanjem.

> "The Sanctuary cast down is His against whom Rome magnified himself, which was the Prince of the host, Jesus Christ; and Paul teaches that His Sanctuary is in heaven. Again, Daniel 11:30–31, —For the ships of Chittim shall come against him; therefore, shall he be grieved and return, and have indignation (the staff to chastise) against the holy covenant (Christianity), so shall he do; he shall even return and have intelligence with them (priests and bishops) that forsake the holy covenant. And arms (civil and religious) shall stand on his part, and they (Rome and those that forsake the holy covenant) shall pollute the Sanctuary of strength.' What was this that Rome and the apostles of Christianity should joint pollute? This combination was formed against the —holy covenant', and it was the Sanctuary of that covenant they polluted; which they could do as well as to pollute the name of God; Jeremiah 34:16; Ezekiel 20; Malachi 1:7. This was the same as profaning or blaspheming His name. In this sense this —politico-religious' beast polluted the Sanctuary, (Revelation 13:6), and cast it down from its place in heaven, (Psalm 102:19; Jeremiah 17:12; Hebrews 8:1–2) when they called Rome the holy city, (Revelation 21:2) and installed the Pope there with the titles, —Lord God the Pope', —Holy Father', —Head of the Church', etc., and there, in the counterfeit, —temple of God', he professes to do what Jesus actually does in His Sanctuary; 2 Thessalonians 2:1–8. The Sanctuary has been trodden under foot (Daniel 8:13), the same as the Son of God has. (Hebrews 10:29.)" O. R. L. Crosier, —The Sanctuary', Review and Herald, September, 1850.

> „Svetište koje je oboreno pripada Onomu protiv kojega se Rim uzvisivao, a koji je Knez vojske, Isus Krist; a Pavao uči da je Njegovo Svetište na nebu. Nadalje, Daniel 11,30–31: —Jer će doći na nj lađe kitimske; i on će se ražalostiti i vratiti se, i gnjeviti se na sveti savez (kršćanstvo), i učinit će; pa će se vratiti i sporazumjeti se s onima (svećenicima i biskupima) koji ostavljaju sveti savez. I mišice (građanske i vjerske) stat će na njegovoj strani, i oni (Rim i oni koji ostavljaju sveti savez) oskvrnut će Svetište sile.’ Što je bilo to što su Rim i otpadnički predstavnici kršćanstva zajedno oskvrnuli? Taj je savez sklopljen protiv —svetoga saveza’, i oskvrnuli su Svetište toga saveza; što su mogli učiniti jednako kao što su mogli oskvrnuti ime Božje; Jeremija 34,16; Ezekiel 20; Malahija 1,7. To je bilo isto što i profanirati ili huliti Njegovo ime. U tom je smislu ta —političko-vjerska’ zvijer oskvrnula Svetište (Otkrivenje 13,6) i oborila ga s njegova mjesta na nebu (Psalam 102,19; Jeremija 17,12; Hebrejima 8,1–2) kada su Rim nazvali svetim gradom (Otkrivenje 21,2) i ondje ustoličili papu s naslovima —Gospodin Bog Papa’, —Sveti Oče’, —Glava Crkve’ itd., i ondje, u krivotvorenom —hramu Božjem’, on tvrdi da čini ono što Isus doista čini u svom Svetištu; 2 Solunjanima 2,1–8. Svetište je pogaženo (Daniel 8,13), isto kao što je pogažen i Sin Božji. (Hebrejima 10,29.)” O. R. L. Crosier, —Svetište’, Review and Herald, rujan 1850.

The Logic of James White

Logika Jamesa Whitea

Why would James White print this article if he knew better? The reason for it is "The Logic of James White" in your notes.

Zašto bi James White tiskao ovaj članak kad je znao bolje? Razlog za to jest „Logika Jamesa Whitea” u vašim bilješkama.

The first thing that was printed after the Disappointment is called A Word to the Little Flock, and the three people who were authors in that publication were James and Ellen White and Joseph Bates. The first thing that was printed after October 22, 1844, by those people that were following on the path was this article; and, in this article Sister White endorses Crosier's view, not his view of the Daily but his view of Christ moving from the Holy Place to the Most Holy Place.

Prvo što je tiskano nakon Razočaranja nosi naslov A Word to the Little Flock, a troje ljudi koji su bili autori u toj publikaciji bili su James i Ellen White te Joseph Bates. Prvo što su nakon 22. listopada 1844. tiskali ti ljudi koji su nastavili hoditi putem bio je ovaj članak; i u tom članku sestra White podupire Crosierovo gledište, ne njegovo gledište o Svagdašnjoj, nego njegovo gledište o Kristovu prijelazu iz Svetinje u Svetinju nad svetinjama.

Notice, this is Sister White. This is why James White would be willing to print Crosier's article, it says,

Primijetite, ovo je sestra White. Zato bi James White bio spreman tiskati Crosierov članak; kaže:

"I believe the Sanctuary, to be cleansed at the end of the 2300 days, is the New Jerusalem Temple, of which Christ is a minister."—this is Ellen White—"The Lord shew me in vision, more than one year ago, that Brother Crosier had the true light, on the cleansing of the Sanctuary, &c; and that it was his will, that Brother C. should write out the view which he gave us in the Day-Star, Extra, February 7, 1846. I feel fully authorized by the Lord, to recommend that Extra, to every saint.

Vjerujem da je Svetište, koje se na svršetku 2300 dana ima očistiti, Hram Novoga Jeruzalema, kojega je Krist služitelj.“ — ovo je Ellen White — „Gospodin mi je u viđenju, prije više od jedne godine, pokazao da je brat Crosier imao pravu svjetlost o čišćenju Svetišta itd.; i da je bila Njegova volja da brat C. napiše prikaz koji nam je iznio u Day-Star, Extra, 7. veljače 1846. Osjećam da sam od Gospodina potpuno ovlaštena preporučiti taj Extra svakom svecu.

"I pray that these lines may prove a blessing to you, and all the dear children who may read them." A Word to the Little Flock, May 12, 1847.

„Molim se da vam ove retke budu na blagoslov, i svoj dragoj djeci koja ih budu čitala.“ A Word to the Little Flock, 12. svibnja 1847.

So, people even to this day, some of the modern historians in Adventism say, "Look at there. Ellen White is giving her blanket endorsement on Crosier's article; and, therefore, what Crosier said about the Daily being Christ's Sanctuary ministry that has to be true." And when they say that, they are misrepresenting history; because, Crosier's article had eight sections in it and, from the very beginning, the Adventists understood that four of those sections were total darkness and they have never, ever, ever been reprinted in Adventism.

Dakle, ljudi još i danas, neki od suvremenih povjesničara u adventizmu, kažu: „Pogledajte ondje. Ellen White daje svoje bezrezervno odobrenje Crosierovu članku; i stoga ono što je Crosier rekao o Svagdašnjoj službi kao Kristovoj službi u Svetištu mora biti istina.“ A kada to kažu, oni krivo prikazuju povijest; jer je Crosierov članak imao osam odjeljaka i, od samoga početka, adventisti su razumjeli da su četiri od tih odjeljaka potpuna tama te nikada, nikada, nikada nisu bili ponovno tiskani u adventizmu.

As an example, one of his positions in that article was that when Jesus returns there is going to be a thousand years of peace. Adventists do not believe that and they never did. That understanding is an understanding that William Miller rejected that actually puts William Miller in the right path for understanding truth. That teaching is one of the teachings that is directly opposite to Millerite understanding.

Kao primjer, jedno od njegovih stajališta u tom članku bilo je da će, kada se Isus vrati, nastupiti tisuću godina mira. Adventisti u to ne vjeruju i nikada nisu vjerovali. To shvaćanje jest shvaćanje koje je William Miller odbacio, što zapravo stavlja Williama Millera na ispravan put razumijevanja istine. Taj nauk jedan je od nauka koji je izravno suprotan mileritskom razumijevanju.

So, when Crosier comes out with this eight-part article, they know right off the bat that four of these parts are not reprintable.

Dakle, kada Crosier iziđe s tim člankom u osam dijelova, oni od samoga početka znaju da se četiri od tih dijelova ne mogu ponovno tiskati.

But, James White prints the part where Crosier does infer that the Daily is Christ's Sanctuary ministry; but, he is only going to reprint those four parts. He is not going to reprint the other four. But, in order for James White to reprint Crosier's four parts, he has to print it in two issues. He had to print it twice in September 1850.

No, James White tiska dio u kojemu Crosier doista zaključuje da je Svagdašnje Kristova služba u Svetištu; ali on će ponovno otisnuti samo ta četiri dijela. Neće ponovno otisnuti ona druga četiri. No, da bi James White ponovno otisnuo Crosierova četiri dijela, mora ih objaviti u dva broja. Morao ih je dvaput tiskati u rujnu 1850.

There was not enough room in his Review and Herald in September 1850, so he printed two Review and Heralds in September 1850 so he could get all of Crosier's article on Christ moving from the Holy Place to the Most Holy Place.

U njegovu časopisu Review and Herald u rujnu 1850. nije bilo dovoljno mjesta, pa je u rujnu 1850. tiskao dva broja časopisa Review and Herald kako bi mogao objaviti cijeli Crosierov članak o Kristovu prijelazu iz Svetinje u Svetinju nad svetinjama.

Now, you will notice from Gerard Damsteegt that he is giving the historical evaluation that Adventists always knew that there were parts of Crosier's articles that were incorrect and that they could not be reprinted.

Sada ćete kod Gerarda Damsteegta primijetiti da on daje povijesnu procjenu prema kojoj su adventisti oduvijek znali da su pojedini dijelovi Crosierovih članaka bili netočni te da se nisu mogli ponovno tiskati.

"She [Ellen Harmon] said: —The Lord showed me in vision, more than one year ago, that Brother Crosier had the true light, on the cleansing of the Sanctuary, &c; and that it was His will that Brother C. should write out the view which he gave us in the Day Star Extra, February 7, 1846. I feel fully authorized by the Lord, to recommend that Extra, to every saint' (Letter. E. G. White to Curtis, Word to the Little Flock, 12). Seventh-day Adventists have usually interpreted this statement to mean that Crosier's presentations were not without mistakes, but that his major typological argumentation was correct. Reprints of the article omitted the aspects which they felt to be inaccurate." P. Gerard Damsteegt, Foundations of the Seventh-day Adventist Message and Mission, 125.

„Ona [Ellen Harmon] je rekla: —Gospodin mi je u viđenju, prije više od godinu dana, pokazao da je brat Crosier imao pravu svjetlost o čišćenju Svetišta itd.; te da je bila Njegova volja da brat C. napiše prikaz koji nam je iznio u Day Star Extra, 7. veljače 1846. Osjećam se potpuno ovlaštenom od Gospodina preporučiti taj Extra svakom svecu’ (Pismo. E. G. White Curtisu, Word to the Little Flock, 12). Adventisti sedmoga dana obično su tumačili ovu izjavu tako da Crosierova izlaganja nisu bila bez pogrešaka, ali da je njegova glavna tipološka argumentacija bila ispravna. Pretisci članka izostavljali su one dijelove koje su smatrali netočnima.” P. Gerard Damsteegt, Foundations of the Seventh-day Adventist Message and Mission, 125.

Never Could Reprint His Complete Document

Nikada nije mogao ponovno tiskati svoj cjeloviti dokument

Now, on the next page you have W. A. Spicer giving testimony to the same thing: They always knew that Crosier's articles had error in them, and they never reprinted those four sections.

A sada, na sljedećoj stranici, imate W. A. Spicera kako svjedoči o istoj stvari: oni su oduvijek znali da su u Crosierovim člancima bile pogreške i nikada nisu ponovno tiskali ta četiri odjeljka.

"Sad to say, young Crosier walked in the light of the Sabbath truth but a very little time. He later repudiated the sanctuary teaching that he had helped to establish. Our pioneer brethren reprinted his exposition on the sanctuary several times in their early papers, but they never could reprint his complete document. In it he had added to the sanctuary exposition some ideas on the age to come a temporal millennium, with a glorious age on this earth at the Second Advent. These things our brethren always omitted. These teachings of the age to come were all abroad in those days. The doctrine never fitted in with the definite advent message; and doubtless this leaven of error helped to lead the younger men away from the Sabbath and the sanctuary truths. He soon turned to bitter opposition to our early movement." W. A. Spicer, Review and Herald, December 14, 1939

„Na žalost, mladi Crosier hodio je u svjetlu istine o suboti tek vrlo kratko vrijeme. Kasnije je odbacio učenje o Svetištu koje je pomogao uspostaviti. Naša braća pioniri više su puta u svojim ranim listovima ponovno tiskala njegovo izlaganje o Svetištu, ali nikada nisu mogla ponovno tiskati njegov cjeloviti spis. U njemu je, uz izlaganje o Svetištu, pridodao neke zamisli o budućem vijeku — vremenski milenij, s veličanstvenim dobom na ovoj zemlji prigodom Drugoga dolaska. Te su stvari naša braća uvijek izostavljala. Ta su učenja o budućem vijeku u ono vrijeme bila posvuda raširena. Taj se nauk nikada nije uklapao u određenu adventnu poruku; i nema sumnje da je taj kvasac zablude pomogao odvesti mlađe ljude od istina o suboti i Svetištu. Uskoro se okrenuo ogorčenom protivljenju našem ranom pokretu.” W. A. Spicer, Review and Herald, 14. prosinca 1939.

The point is, there are those people today that take Sister White's endorsement of Crosier's article in A Word to the Little Flock, people like Heidi Heikes, Heidi Heikes with his foolish book about the Daily being Christ's Sanctuary ministry. This is one of his arguments.

Poanta je u tome da danas postoje ljudi koji uzimaju odobravanje članka Crosiera od strane sestre White u djelu A Word to the Little Flock, ljudi poput Heidi Heikesa, Heidi Heikesa sa svojom ludom knjigom o tome da je Svagdašnje Kristova služba u Svetištu. To je jedan od njegovih argumenata.

People that do this are disregarding the historical facts. They never could reprint all of Crosier's articles. And to insist that Ellen White's endorsement in A Word to the Little Flock is a blanket endorsement of Crosier's position is to insist that Adventists believe that there is going to be a thousand years of peace. It is a foolish argument.

Ljudi koji to čine zanemaruju povijesne činjenice. Nikada nisu mogli ponovno tiskati sve Crosierove članke. A ustrajati na tome da je odobravanje Ellen White u A Word to the Little Flock opće odobravanje Crosierova stajališta znači ustrajati na tome da adventisti vjeruju kako će nastupiti tisuću godina mira. To je nerazuman argument.

It is a misrepresentation of history, and it is done to deceive people and to produce confusion and darkness.

To je iskrivljavanje povijesti, i čini se kako bi se obmanulo ljude te proizvelo pomutnju i tamu.

So, you have two historians, Spicer who is deceased and Damsteegt who is still alive; but, I guarantee you, Spicer or Damsteegt, neither one of them, would agree with me with what I present. Okay, they would not. So, you have two antagonistic historians that are in agreement with what I am telling you. There is no justification whatsoever for taking Ellen White's endorsement of Crosier's article to mean that everything in it was perfect.

Dakle, imate dvojicu povjesničara, Spicera, koji je preminuo, i Damsteegta, koji je još živ; ali, jamčim vam, ni Spicer ni Damsteegt, nijedan od njih, ne bi se složio sa mnom u onome što iznosim. U redu, ne bi. Dakle, imate dvojicu suprotstavljenih povjesničara koji su suglasni s onim što vam govorim. Ne postoji nikakvo opravdanje da se odobravanje Ellen White Crosierova članka tumači tako da znači kako je sve u njemu bilo savršeno.

The Advent Review—Volume 1, Auburn NY, Number 3

Advent Review — svezak 1, Auburn, NY, broj 3

The Advent Review—Volume 1, Auburn NY, Number 4

The Advent Review — svezak 1, Auburn, NY, broj 4

The Advent Review—Volume 1, Auburn NY, Number Special

Advent Review—Svezak 1, Auburn, NY, Posebno izdanje

When James White began to print Crosier's article in September of 1850, of The Review and Herald, that was Volume 1, Number 3

Kad je James White u rujnu 1850. počeo tiskati Crosierov članak u časopisu The Review and Herald, to je bio svezak 1, broj 3.

But, he could not get it all in Volume 1, Number 3; so, he finished off the article in Volume 1 of The Review and Herald,, Number 4. And when did he do this? In September of 1850.

Ali, nije mogao sve to obuhvatiti u 1. svesku, broju 3; stoga je članak dovršio u 1. svesku časopisa The Review and Herald, broj 4. A kada je to učinio? U rujnu 1850. godine.

Well, what happened in September of 1850? Sister White had a vision that says, "September 23, 1850 the Lord showed me . . . . When union existed, before 1844, nearly all were united on the correct view of the —Daily;' but since 1844, in the confusion, other views have been embraced, and darkness and confusion has followed. The Review and Herald, November 1850."

Dakle, što se dogodilo u rujnu 1850.? Sestra White imala je viđenje koje kaže: „23. rujna 1850. Gospodin mi je pokazao . . . . Kad je postojalo jedinstvo, prije 1844., gotovo su svi bili ujedinjeni u ispravnom shvaćanju — ‘Svakidašnje’; ali od 1844., u zbrci, prihvaćena su druga gledišta, a uslijedili su tama i zbrka. The Review and Herald, studeni 1850.”

Who was her husband? He was the editor of The Review and Herald.

Tko je bio njezin muž? Bio je urednik časopisa The Review and Herald.

So, what did he do when his wife said, "Do you know what I just was told by the Lord, James? I was told that we were not supposed to be introducing the views of the Daily that contradict the Pioneer understanding that the Daily is Paganism, because it is bringing darkness and confusion."

Dakle, što je učinio kada mu je supruga rekla: „Znaš li što mi je upravo Gospodin rekao, James? Rečeno mi je da nismo trebali uvoditi gledišta o Svagdašnjoj koja proturječe pionirskom razumijevanju da je Svagdašnja poganstvo, jer to donosi tamu i pomutnju.”

So, what did James White do? In September of 1850 he printed another Review and Herald, three in one month. It is called Volume 1, Special Edition.

Dakle, što je učinio James White? U rujnu 1850. tiskao je još jedan broj časopisa Review and Herald, tri u jednom mjesecu. To se naziva Svezak 1, posebno izdanje.

And what did he do? He reprinted Crosier's article and removed what Crosier said about the Daily!

I što je učinio? Ponovno je tiskao Crosierov članak i uklonio ono što je Crosier rekao o Svagdašnjoj!

Brothers and Sisters, this is historical proof that James and Ellen White understood that Crosier's view about the Daily was wrong and that it brought darkness and confusion.

Braćo i sestre, ovo je povijesni dokaz da su James i Ellen White razumjeli da je Crosierovo gledište o Svagdašnjoj bilo pogrešno te da je unosilo tamu i pomutnju.

And what was Crosier's view about the Daily? That it was Christ's Sanctuary ministry.

A kakvo je bilo Crosierovo gledište o Svagdašnjoj? Da je to bila Kristova služba u Svetištu.

So, in Early Writings, 74, when she says, "September 23rd, the Lord showed me that the Millerites had the correct view of the Daily," the historical evidence is that the Millerites understood—

Dakle, u Early Writings, 74, kada ona kaže: „Dana 23. rujna Gospodin mi je pokazao da su mileriti imali ispravno razumijevanje o Svagdašnjoj“, povijesni dokazi pokazuju da su mileriti razumjeli—

Now, Brothers and Sisters, Brothers and Sisters, do not miss this fact: What is this: September 1850 Sister White is shown that since 1844 other views of the Daily had been embraced; May 1850, Arnold presents the Daily as the Jewish sanctuary; September 1850, part 1 of 2 of Crosier's article is published, inclusive of his presentation of the Daily as Christ's Sanctuary ministry; September 1850, part 2 of 2 of Crosier's article is published; September 1850, Crosier's article is reprinted, but his view on the Daily has been removed? What is taking place?

Dakle, braćo i sestre, braćo i sestre, nemojte propustiti ovu činjenicu: Što je ovo: rujan 1850., sestri White je pokazano da su od 1844. bila prihvaćena i druga gledišta o Svagdašnjoj; svibanj 1850., Arnold predstavlja Svagdašnju kao židovsko svetište; rujan 1850., objavljen je 1. od 2 dijela Crosierova članka, uključujući njegovo izlaganje o Svagdašnjoj kao Kristovoj službi u Svetištu; rujan 1850., objavljen je 2. od 2 dijela Crosierova članka; rujan 1850., Crosierov članak ponovno je tiskan, ali je njegovo gledište o Svagdašnjoj uklonjeno? Što se događa?

We see the same year that this 1850 Chart is produced, and what does this Chart say about the Daily? "Pagan Dominion or The DAILY taken away. Dan. 11:31 508."

Vidimo istu godinu u kojoj je izrađena ova karta iz 1850., a što ova karta kaže o Svagdašnjoj? „Poganska vlast ili SVAGDAŠNJA uklonjena. Dan. 11:31 508.”

Ellen White knew what those who gave the Judgment Hour's cry position of the Daily was. When she says they had the correct view, she knew that the correct view was that it represented the Pagan Dominion being taken; the Daily represented Paganism.

Ellen White znala je kakvo je bilo stajalište o Svagdašnjoj žrtvi onih koji su objavili vijest o času Suda. Kad kaže da su imali ispravno gledište, znala je da je ispravno gledište bilo to da ona predstavlja oduzimanje poganske vlasti; Svagdašnja žrtva predstavljala je poganstvo.

And in this year, 1850, the historical record proves that she rejected and her husband rejected the teaching that the Daily represents Christ Sanctuary ministry, which is the teaching that the Biblical Research Institute of the Seventh-day Adventist Church upholds. It is the teaching that the self-supporting ministries, such as Heartland and Steps to Life support. It is the teaching that brings darkness and confusion.

A u ovoj godini, 1850., povijesni zapis dokazuje da je ona odbacila, a i njezin muž odbacio, učenje da „svagdašnja“ predstavlja Kristovu službu u Svetištu, što je učenje koje zastupa Biblical Research Institute Crkve adventista sedmoga dana. To je učenje koje podupiru samostalne službe, kao što su Heartland i Steps to Life. To je učenje koje donosi tamu i zbrku.

Now, notice this concerning the 1850 Chart. This is in November of 1850. This is the same month that she has the vision that she records that ultimately goes through the evolution in 1851, and then in 1882 ends up in Early Writing, in this very month, in this very month, in November of 1850. It says,

A sada zapazite ovo u vezi s Kartom iz 1850. godine. Ovo je u studenome 1850. To je isti mjesec u kojemu ona ima viđenje koje bilježi, a koje na koncu prolazi kroz razvoj 1851. godine i zatim 1882. završava u knjizi Early Writing, upravo u ovom mjesecu, upravo u ovom mjesecu, u studenome 1850. Kaže,

"Monday we returned to Dorchester where our dear Brother Nichols and family live."—

„U ponedjeljak smo se vratili u Dorchester, gdje žive naš dragi brat Nichols i njegova obitelj.”

Right up here [referring to the 1850 Chart, upper right-hand corner], "Published by Otis Nichols, Dorchester, Massachusetts." Okay? She is talking about this, right? Do you see it, this Chart?

Ovdje gore [upućujući na Kartu iz 1850., u gornjem desnom kutu], „Objavio Otis Nichols, Dorchester, Massachusetts.“ U redu? Ona govori o ovome, zar ne? Vidite li to, ovu Kartu?

—"There in the night God gave me a very interesting vision, the most of which you will see in the paper. God shewed me the necessity of getting out a chart. I saw it was needed and that the truth made plain upon tables would effect much and would cause souls to come to the knowledge of the truth." Manuscript Releases, number 15, 210 November, 1850.

—„Ondje mi je noću Bog dao vrlo zanimljivo viđenje, čiji ćete veći dio vidjeti u listu. Bog mi je pokazao nužnost izdavanja jedne karte. Vidjela sam da je to potrebno i da će istina, jasno izložena na pločama, učiniti mnogo te navesti duše da dođu do spoznaje istine.” Manuscript Releases, broj 15, 210 studeni, 1850.

She had a vision at Nichols's house in Dorchester—that is all on this Chart—saying, "You need to make a chart."

Imala je viđenje u kući Nicholsa u Dorchesteru — sve je to na ovom grafikonu — govoreći: „Trebaš načiniti grafikon.”

And what does she say about the chart? How does she describe it?

A što ona kaže o karti? Kako je opisuje?

Go to Habakkuk 2, "I saw the need of getting out a chart," and what would it do? It was needed, "that the truth made plain upon tables." Habakkuk 2, verse 2, says, "And the Lord answered me and said, Write the vision, and make it plain upon tables, . . . ." She is saying that this Otis Nichols 1850 Chart, printed in Dorchester, Massachusetts, is a fulfillment of Habakkuk, just like she says in The Great Controversy that the 1843 Chart is a fulfillment of Habakkuk.

Pođite na Habakuka 2: „Vidjela sam potrebu da se izda jedna karta“, a što bi ona učinila? Bila je potrebna „da se istina učini jasnom na pločama“. Habakuk 2, redak 2, kaže: „I odgovori mi Gospod i reče: Zapiši viđenje i učini ga jasnim na pločama, . . . .“ Ona kaže da je ta karta Otisa Nicholsa iz 1850., tiskana u Dorchesteru, Massachusetts, ispunjenje Habakuka, baš kao što kaže u Velikoj borbi da je karta iz 1843. ispunjenje Habakuka.

Okay, do you see that? Do you see when she got this vision? In the same time that this was going on: "September 23d, the Lord showed me . . . . that the teaching of the Daily as Christ's Sanctuary ministry brings darkness and confusion," and her husband immediately reprinted the article and removed those two paragraphs. It was never reprinted again in Adventism until 1931 when Willie White reprinted it; and, when he did so, he had some false witness in the very tract that he printed. It can be demonstrated.

Dobro, vidite li to? Vidite li kada je primila ovo viđenje? U isto vrijeme kada se ovo događalo: „23. rujna Gospodin mi je pokazao . . . . da nauk o Svagdašnjoj kao Kristovoj službi u Svetištu donosi tamu i pomutnju“, a njezin je muž odmah ponovno otisnuo članak i uklonio ta dva odlomka. U adventizmu više nikada nije bio ponovno tiskan sve do 1931., kada ga je Willie White ponovno otisnuo; i kada je to učinio, u samoj je tiskanoj brošuri bilo lažnoga svjedočanstva. To se može dokazati.

Now, I want to read something here to you, a longer quote, about this same time period. This is from November 27, 1850.

Sada vam želim ovdje pročitati nešto, dulji navod, o tom istom vremenskom razdoblju. Ovo je od 27. studenoga 1850.

"I have neglected writing you for some time. I will now give my reasons. First, I had no time to write for weeks after I received Sister Arabella's kind and welcome letter, or I should have complied with her request to have answered it within two weeks. I liked the letter very much. We were all interested in the letter and hope my delay will not prevent you from answering this as soon as you read it, and I will not wait so long next time.

Neko sam vrijeme zanemarivao pisati vam. Sada ću iznijeti svoje razloge. Kao prvo, tjednima nisam imao vremena pisati nakon što sam primio ljubazno i dobrodošlo pismo sestre Arabelle, inače bih udovoljio njezinoj molbi da na njega odgovorim u roku od dva tjedna. Pismo mi se veoma svidjelo. Svi smo se zanimali za pismo i nadamo se da moje kašnjenje neće spriječiti da odgovorite na ovo čim ga pročitate, a ja sljedeći put neću toliko dugo čekati.

"James' and my health is quite good now. Our home is in Paris, at Brother Andrews', within a few steps of the post office and printing office. We shall stay here some little time. This is a very kind family, yet quite poor. Everything here is free as far as they have. We do not think it right to be any expense to them while here. I want to see you all very much and dear Sister Gorham.

Zdravlje Jakova i moje sada je prilično dobro. Naš je dom u Parizu, kod brata Andrewsa, na svega nekoliko koraka od pošte i tiskare. Ostat ćemo ovdje još neko kratko vrijeme. Ovo je vrlo ljubazna obitelj, ali prilično siromašna. Ovdje je sve slobodno na raspolaganju koliko god imaju. Ne smatramo ispravnim da im budemo na ikakav trošak dok smo ovdje. Vrlo mnogo želim vidjeti sve vas i dragu sestru Gorham.

"Our conference at Topsham was one of deep interest. Twenty-eight were present; all took part in the meeting.

„Naša konferencija u Topshamu bila je od duboka zanimanja. Bilo je nazočno dvadeset i osam osoba; svi su sudjelovali na sastanku.

"Sunday the power of God came upon us like a mighty rushing wind. All arose upon their feet and praised God with a loud voice; it was something as it was when the foundation of the house of God was laid. The voice of weeping could not be told from the voice of shouting. It was a triumphant time; all were strengthened and refreshed. I never witnessed such a powerful time before.

U nedjelju je sila Božja sišla na nas kao silan, silovito jureći vjetar. Svi su ustali na noge i slavili Boga glasnim glasom; bilo je to kao onda kad je bio položen temelj doma Božjega. Glas plača nije se mogao razlikovati od glasa klicanja. Bilo je to vrijeme pobjede; svi su bili osnaženi i okrijepljeni. Nikada prije nisam svjedočio tako silnom vremenu.

"Our next conference was in Fairhaven. Brother Bates and wife were present. It was quite a good meeting. On our return to Brother Nichols', the Lord gave me a vision and showed me that the truth must be made plain upon tables, and it would cause many to decide for the truth by the three angels' messages, with the two former being made plain upon tables."—

„Naša sljedeća konferencija bila je u Fairhavenu. Brat Bates i supruga bili su nazočni. Bio je to vrlo dobar sastanak. Po našem povratku k bratu Nicholsu, Gospodin mi je dao viđenje i pokazao mi da se istina mora jasno izložiti na pločama, i to će mnoge navesti da se odluče za istinu po porukama trojice anđela, pri čemu će prve dvije biti jasno izložene na pločama.“—

That is right down here, [indicating the lower left corner of the 1850 Chart]. Okay? They are on this Chart, what she is talking about.

To je upravo ovdje dolje [pokazujući na donji lijevi kut karte iz 1850.]. U redu? Oni su na ovoj karti, o čemu ona govori.

—"I also saw it was as necessary for the paper to be published as for the messengers to go, for the messengers need a paper to carry with them, containing present truth, to put in the hands of those that hear, and then the truth would not fade from the mind, and that the paper would go where the messengers could not go. Other things I saw which will appear in the paper.

—„Također sam vidjela da je bilo jednako nužno da se list izdaje kao što je nužno da glasnici idu, jer je glasnicima potreban list koji će nositi sa sobom, a koji sadrži sadašnju istinu, da ga stave u ruke onih koji slušaju, i tada istina ne bi izblijedjela iz uma, te da bi list dospio onamo kamo glasnici ne bi mogli doći. Vidjela sam i druge stvari koje će se pojaviti u listu.“

"How do you all get along? Are you all striving for eternal life? I want to see you very, very much and think I shall before long. Now is the preparation time and I hope we shall all make sure work for eternity. Time looks very short and what we do we must do quickly.

„Kako se svi slažete? Težite li svi za vječnim životom? Vrlo, vrlo mnogo želim vas vidjeti i mislim da ću to uskoro i moći. Sada je vrijeme priprave i nadam se da ćemo svi obaviti sigurno djelo za vječnost. Vrijeme se čini vrlo kratkim, i što god činimo, moramo činiti brzo.

"November 20, one week ago, Brother Henry Nichols and self went to Topsham. We had just risen from the dinner table Thursday [Nov. 21], when one of Brother Foey's children came in and said their mother was insensible. We hastened over the river one mile and found our dear Sister Foey dying. My distress was great as I found she did not know me. She continued long in great distress until between three and four o'clock and then breathed her last. She has left a husband and three children to mourn their loss.

„Dana 20. studenoga, prije tjedan dana, brat Henry Nichols i ja otišli smo u Topsham. Tek što smo u četvrtak [21. studenoga] ustali od stola nakon objeda, jedno od djece brata Foeya ušlo je i reklo da im je majka bez svijesti. Požurili smo preko rijeke jednu milju i zatekli našu dragu sestru Foey na samrti. Moja je žalost bila velika kad sam ustanovio da me ne prepoznaje. Dugo je ostala u velikoj tjeskobi, sve do između tri i četiri sata, a zatim je izdahnula. Ostavila je muža i troje djece da oplakuju svoj gubitak.

"Friday morning [Nov. 22], Brother Henry came to Paris for James to shave him to attend the funeral. We had a very solemn, interesting time. The Lord did not leave us but let His Spirit rest upon us. Sister Foey's last days were decidedly her most spiritual and best days. Brother Foey has this to console him, that she died a Christian. He bears up well. God gives him grace to endure the affliction. Oh, how good it is to have a hope in God that will sustain in all scenes of trial and affliction. Praise God for a hope, a good hope. What would you, any of you, give for your hope?

U petak ujutro [22. studenoga] brat Henry došao je u Paris da ga James obrije kako bi mogao nazočiti sprovodu. Proveli smo veoma svečano i dojmljivo vrijeme. Gospodin nas nije ostavio, nego je dopustio da Njegov Duh počine na nama. Posljednji dani sestre Foey bili su nedvojbeno njezini najduhovniji i najbolji dani. Brat Foey ima ovu utjehu, da je umrla kao kršćanka. Dobro se drži. Bog mu daje milost da podnese ovu nevolju. O, kako je dobro imati nadu u Boga koja će održati u svim prizorima kušnje i nevolje. Hvala Bogu za nadu, dobru nadu. Što biste vi, bilo tko od vas, dali za svoju nadu?

"Hold fast the faith. Be strong in God and lean upon His everlasting arm. It will never fail you but will bear you up under every affliction. I hope you will all grow stronger and stronger in the truth. Do not falter but press your way to the kingdom."—

„Čvrsto se držite vjere. Budite jaki u Bogu i oslonite se na Njegovu vječnu mišicu. Ona vas nikada neće iznevjeriti, nego će vas poduprijeti u svakoj nevolji. Nadam se da ćete svi rasti i sve više jačati u istini. Ne posustajte, nego kročite naprijed svojim putem prema kraljevstvu.” —

Here we go. Here is what I want you to see.

Evo, krećemo. Evo što želim da vidite.

—"One week ago, last Sabbath, we had a very interesting meeting. Brother Hewit from Dead River was there. He came with a message to the effect that the destruction of the wicked and the sleep of the dead was an abomination within a shut door that a woman Jezebel, a prophetess had brought in and he believed that I was that woman, Jezebel."—

—„Prije tjedan dana, prošle subote, imali smo vrlo zanimljiv sastanak. Ondje je bio brat Hewit iz Dead Rivera. Došao je s porukom u smislu da su uništenje opakih i san mrtvih grozota unutar zatvorenih vrata koju je uvela neka žena Izebela, proročica, te je vjerovao da sam ja ta žena, Izebela.“—

Okay? Brother Hewit is saying that Ellen White is Jezebel and she has introduced three errors.

Dobro? Brat Hewit kaže da je Ellen White Jezabela i da je uvela tri zablude.

"—We told him of some of his errors in the past, that the 1335 days were ended and numerous errors of his. It had but little effect. His darkness was felt upon the meeting and it dragged."—

—Rekli smo mu za neke od njegovih pogrešaka u prošlosti, da je 1335 dana završilo, kao i za njegove brojne zablude. To je imalo tek vrlo malen učinak. Njegova se tama osjećala nad sastankom i on se otezao.—

Now, I want you to see this. I have something to say about this paragraph that I want you to follow, if you can.

Sada želim da ovo uočite. Imam nešto reći o ovome odlomku, i želim da to pratite, ako možete.

If you have ever dealt with those in Adventism that reapply the time prophecies at the end of the world, they only have three quotes that they use—they use lots of quotes, but they have three primary quotes that they use. This is one of them; because, they will go there and say, "We told him of some of his errors in the past," and they will claim that when she says "that the 1335 days were ended" that that was one of his errors. Do you see how you can kind of twist that grammar a little bit: "We told him of some of his errors in the past? We also told him that the 1335 days were ended; but the time setters say we told him some of his errors in the past and one of those errors was that you are teaching the 1335 days is ended and that is an error." So, you can twist it either way.

Ako ste se ikada susreli s onima u adventizmu koji na svršetku svijeta ponovno primjenjuju vremenska proročanstva, oni imaju samo tri citata kojima se služe — služe se mnogim citatima, ali imaju tri glavna citata kojima se služe. Ovo je jedan od njih; jer će otići ondje i reći: „Rekli smo mu o nekim njegovim pogreškama u prošlosti“, i tvrdit će da je, kada ona kaže „da je 1335 dana završilo“, to bila jedna od njegovih pogrešaka. Vidite li kako se ta gramatika može donekle izvrnuti: „Rekli smo mu o nekim njegovim pogreškama u prošlosti? Također smo mu rekli da je 1335 dana završilo“; ali oni koji određuju vrijeme kažu da smo mu rekli neke od njegovih pogrešaka u prošlosti i da je jedna od tih pogrešaka bila to što učiš da je 1335 dana završilo, i da je to pogreška. Dakle, možete to izvrnuti na oba načina.

The first time I had a face-to-face confrontation with Eugene Prewitt was in Oklahoma, and he is arguing that the Millerite History does not repeat at the end of the world, and I give him a couple of quotes in the Spirit of Prophecy.

Prvi put kada sam imao izravno suočenje licem u lice s Eugeneom Prewittom bilo je u Oklahomi, a on tvrdi da se milleritska povijest ne ponavlja na svršetku svijeta, i ja mu navodim nekoliko citata iz Duha proroštva.

And he says, "Jeff, you know that Ellen White was a careless writer."

I on kaže: „Jeffe, znaš da je Ellen White bila nemarna spisateljica.”

And I said, "What do you mean?"

A ja rekoh: „Što misliš?”

And he went to this quote. He says that this quote proves that she is a careless writer; because she knows that I know that the time setters can twist this quote, if they wish to.

I on je prešao na ovaj navod. Kaže da taj navod dokazuje da je ona nemaran pisac; jer ona zna da ja znam da određivači vremena mogu izvrnuti taj navod, ako to žele.

Now, the fact that someplace like Washita has the influence that teaches its students that Ellen White is a careless writer is one thing; but, is she a careless writer here?

Dakle, činjenica da mjesto kao što je Washita ima utjecaj koji svoje studente uči da je Ellen White nemarna spisateljica jedno je; ali, je li ona ovdje nemarna spisateljica?

—"I felt that I must say a few words. In the name of Jesus, I got up and in about five minutes the meeting changed. Everyone felt it at the same instant. Every countenance was lighted up. The presence of God filled the place. Brother Hewit dropped upon his knees and began to cry and pray. I was taken off in vision and saw much that I cannot write. It had a great effect upon Brother Hewit. He confessed it was of God and was humbled in the dust. He has been writing ever since that meeting, and is now writing from the same table renouncing all his errors that he has advanced. I believe God is bringing him up and he is calculated to do good, if God moves through him.

—„Osjetio sam da moram reći nekoliko riječi. U ime Isusovo ustao sam, i za otprilike pet minuta skup se promijenio. Svatko je to osjetio u istom trenutku. Svako je lice bilo obasjano. Božja prisutnost ispunila je to mjesto. Brat Hewit pao je na koljena i počeo plakati i moliti. Bio sam uznesen u viđenju i vidio mnogo toga što ne mogu napisati. To je snažno djelovalo na brata Hewita. Priznao je da je to od Boga i ponizio se do praha. Od toga skupa neprestano piše, i sada za istim stolom piše odričući se svih svojih zabluda koje je zastupao. Vjerujem da ga Bog podiže i da je određen činiti dobro, ako Bog bude djelovao po njemu.״

"Much love to dear Sister Gorham. Tell her to be strong. God is with her and He will not leave her. Much love to you all. I hope the children will not get sleepy, but will be interested in the truth and be diligent to make their calling and election sure. Write, be sure and write, and do not do as I have done. I love you, all of you. Write." Manuscript Releases, volume 16, 206–209. Written from Paris, Maine, November 27, 1850.

"Puno ljubavi dragoj sestri Gorham. Recite joj da bude jaka. Bog je s njom i On je neće ostaviti. Puno ljubavi svima vama. Nadam se da djeca neće postati pospana, nego da će se zanimati za istinu i marljivo nastojati učiniti svoj poziv i izbor sigurnima. Pišite, svakako pišite, i nemojte činiti kao što sam ja činila. Volim vas, sve vas. Pišite." Manuscript Releases, volume 16, 206–209. Napisano u Parisu, Maine, 27. studenoga 1850.

Brothers and Sisters, what is the historical context of this; where is she writing this at? She is writing this in 1850, in Brother Nichols's house.

Braćo i sestre, koji je povijesni kontekst ovoga; gdje ona ovo piše? Ona to piše 1850. godine, u kući brata Nicholsa.

In this time period, what is the Lord doing? He is showing that the Pioneers have the correct view of the Daily, and she is dealing with that. She is saying that Christ's Sanctuary ministry is the false view of the Daily.

U ovom vremenskom razdoblju, što Gospodin čini? On pokazuje da pioniri imaju ispravno gledište o Svagdašnjoj, a ona se time bavi. Ona kaže da je Kristova služba u Svetištu pogrešno gledište o Svagdašnjoj.

In this history, this very history—not this very history and not just the very year, but the very month of the year she is getting visions and she is clarifying this truth about the Pioneer position of the Daily, saying those that gave the Judgment Hour Cry had the correct view of the Daily; and, in the same paragraph, she says, "I saw that the 1843 Chart was directed by the hand of the Lord and it should not be altered and that those that gave the Judgment Hour Cry had the correct view of the Daily."

U ovoj povijesti, upravo u ovoj povijesti — ne samo u ovoj povijesti i ne samo u toj istoj godini, nego upravo u tome mjesecu te godine — ona prima viđenja i razjašnjava ovu istinu o pionirskom stajalištu o Svagdašnjoj, govoreći da su oni koji su objavili Viku o času suda imali ispravno gledište o Svagdašnjoj; i, u istome odlomku, ona kaže: „Vidjela sam da je Karta iz 1843. bila usmjerena rukom Gospodnjom i da se ne smije mijenjati te da su oni koji su objavili Viku o času suda imali ispravno gledište o Svagdašnjoj.”

And what does it say about the Daily on this 1843 Chart? Well, it says that it was taken away in AD508; and, at 1335 years later brings you to 1843 and that the 1335 is in the past.

A što kaže o Svagdašnjoj na ovoj karti iz 1843.? Pa, kaže da je bila uklonjena 508. po. Kr.; i da vas 1335 godina poslije dovodi do 1843. te da je 1335 u prošlosti.

Can you imagine, in the very month, in the very year, that she would tell Brother Hewit from Dead River that it was still future?

Možete li zamisliti da bi mu, upravo u tom mjesecu, upravo te godine, rekla bratu Hewitu iz Dead Rivera da je to još uvijek buduće?

Okay, these time setters, these time setters, and these people that believe that Sister White is a careless writer. History does not uphold this.

Dobro, ti određivači vremena, ti određivači vremena, i ti ljudi koji vjeruju da je sestra White nemaran pisac. Povijest to ne potvrđuje.

So, I want you to see, in connection with the Daily, Ellen White even understood the 1335.

Dakle, želim da u vezi sa Svagdašnjom uvidite da je Ellen White razumjela čak i 1335.

Ellen White just did not put her seal of approval on the Daily being Paganism; she understood that it started the 1335-year prophecy, which ended in 1843, and she defended that position in public against Brother Hewit from Dead River. Do you see that?

Ellen White nije samo dala svoj pečat odobravanja tumačenju da je Svagdašnjica poganstvo; razumjela je da je time započelo proročanstvo od 1335 godina, koje je završilo 1843., i javno je branila to stajalište protiv brata Hewita iz Dead Rivera. Vidite li to?

And in the same month, where she is saying that Christ's Sanctuary ministry as the Daily only brings darkness and confusion; and, her husband, in response to that vision, removes that teaching from the Review and Herald.

I u istome mjesecu, dok ona govori da Kristova služba u Svetištu kao Svagdašnja donosi samo tamu i pomutnju; njezin muž, kao odgovor na to viđenje, uklanja taj nauk iz Review and Herald.

Up here in your notes, where it says "1850 Chart," this is what it says right here [referring to the third column from the left on the 1850 Chart, the text following Jesus on the cross in AD31]. I wanted you to be able to have it in your notes.

Ovdje gore u vašim bilješkama, gdje piše „1850 Chart“, upravo ovdje piše ovako [upućujući na treći stupac slijeva na karti iz 1850., na tekst koji slijedi nakon Isusa na križu 31. godine po Kr.]. Htio sam da to možete imati u svojim bilješkama.

> Away Daniel 11:31 508

> Daleko Daniel 11:31 508

And then on the 1843 Chart over here [referring to the center column, underneath Jesus on the cross in AD31]:

A zatim ovdje na Karti iz 1843. [upućujući na središnji stupac, ispod Isusa na križu 31. godine po Kr.]:

Taking away of the daily sacrifice. Dan. 12:11, 12

Uklanjanje svagdašnje žrtve. Dan. 12:11, 12

Okay, these are these two Charts.

U redu, ovo su ta dva grafikona.

Sister White understood that these men had the correct view, and she understood that it initiated the 1335-year prophecy that ended in 1843; and, she understood that it represented the Pagan Dominion being taken away in 508.

Sestra White razumjela je da su ti ljudi imali ispravno gledište te je razumjela da je ono pokrenulo proročanstvo o 1335 godina koje je završilo 1843.; i razumjela je da ono predstavlja uklanjanje poganske vlasti 508. godine.

Under these two references to the Charts you have another quote in the time period of Brother Nichols, and she is rebuking people from making other charts because their artwork is satanic; whereas, she says that the artwork upon these two Charts is heavenly. She says,

Pod tim dvjema upućivanjima na Karte imate još jedan navod iz vremenskog razdoblja brata Nicholsa, i ona kori ljude što izrađuju druge karte jer je njihovo likovno oblikovanje sotonsko; dok, naprotiv, kaže da je likovno oblikovanje na tim dvjema Kartama nebesko. Ona kaže,

"I saw the chart-making business was all wrong. It originated with Brother Rhodes and was followed out by Brother Case. Means has been spent in making charts and forming uncouth disgusting images to represent angels and the glorious Jesus. Such things I saw were displeasing to God. I saw that God was in the publishment of the chart by Brother Nichols."—

„Vidjela sam da je izrada karata bila posve pogrešna. Potekla je od brata Rhodesa, a nastavio ju je brat Case. Uložena su sredstva u izradu karata i oblikovanje nezgrapnih, odvratnih prikaza koji trebaju predstavljati anđele i slavnog Isusa. Vidjela sam da su takve stvari bile mrske Bogu. Vidjela sam da je Bog bio u objavljivanju karte po bratu Nicholsu.”—

Who was in the publishment of this 1850 Chart? God!

Tko je bio u objavljivanju ove Karte iz 1850.? Bog!

—"I saw that there was"—what?—"a prophecy of this chart in the Bible, and if this chart is designed for God's people, if it [is] sufficient for one it is for another, and if one needed a new chart painted on a larger scale, all need it just as much.

—„Vidjela sam da postoji“—što?—„proročanstvo o ovoj karti u Bibliji, i ako je ova karta namijenjena Božjem narodu, ako je ona dovoljna za jednoga, onda je i za drugoga, i ako je jednomu bilo potrebno da se naslika nova karta u većem mjerilu, svima je potrebna jednako tako.“

"I saw that it was a restless, uneasy, unsatisfied, ungrateful feeling in Brother Case that desired another chart. I saw that these painted charts had a bad effect upon the congregation. It caused a light, chaffy spirit of ridicule to be in the meeting."—

„Vidjela sam da je u bratu Caseu postojao nemiran, tjeskoban, nezadovoljan i nezahvalan osjećaj koji je priželjkivao još jedan prikaz. Vidjela sam da su ti oslikani prikazi loše djelovali na skupštinu. To je uzrokovalo da na sastanku vlada lak, pljevan i podrugljiv duh.“—

Now, this is the one that I want you to think through.

Evo, o ovome želim da dobro promislite.

—"I saw that the charts ordered by God struck the mind favorably, even without an explanation."—

—„Vidjela sam da su prikazi koje je Bog odredio povoljno djelovali na um, čak i bez objašnjenja.“—

"I saw that the charts," plural, "ordered by God . . . ." What charts, in the plural, were ordered by God? These two Charts [the 1843 and 1850 Charts] were ordered by God."

„Vidjela sam da su dijagrami“, u množini, „bili određeni od Boga . . . .“ Koji su dijagrami, u množini, bili određeni od Boga? Ova dva dijagrama [dijagram iz 1843. i dijagram iz 1850.] bila su određena od Boga.

> These two Charts are a fulfillment of Habakkuk 2.

> Ove dvije karte ispunjenje su Habakuka 2.

—"There is something light, lovely, and heavenly in the representation of the angels on the charts. The mind is almost imperceptibly led to God and heaven. But the other charts that have been gotten up disgust the mind, and cause the mind to dwell more on earth than heaven. Images representing angels look more like fiends than beings of heaven. I saw that the charts had for days and weeks occupied Brother Case's mind when he should have been seeking heavenly wisdom from God, and should have been growing in graces of the Spirit and the knowledge of the truth.

—„U prikazu anđela na kartama ima nečega laganog, ljupkog i nebeskog. Um se gotovo neprimjetno vodi k Bogu i nebu. Ali druge karte koje su bile izrađene izazivaju odvratnost u umu i navode ga da se više zadržava na zemlji nego na nebu. Slike koje prikazuju anđele više nalikuju zlodušima nego bićima neba. Vidjela sam da su karte danima i tjednima zaokupljale um brata Casea, kad je trebao tražiti nebesku mudrost od Boga i rasti u milostima Duha i u spoznaji istine.

"I saw that if the means that has been wasted in getting out charts had been spent in getting out the truth clear before the brethren in publishing tracts, etc., it would have done much good and saved souls. I saw that the chart-making business has spread like the fever." Manuscript Releases, number 13, 359; 1853.

„Vidjela sam da bi, kada bi se sredstva koja su bila rasipana na izdavanje karata utrošila na to da se istina jasno iznese pred braću objavljivanjem traktata itd., to donijelo mnogo dobra i spasilo duše. Vidjela sam da se posao izrađivanja karata proširio poput groznice.“ Manuscript Releases, broj 13, 359; 1853.

The 1290 and 1335 Days

1290 i 1335 dana

I have following an article from the Review and Herald, January 28, 1858. The reason I have it in your notes is because you can see that in 1858 they are still teaching that the Daily is Paganism. You have it in your reference, eight years after 1850 they still understand the Daily is Paganism.

Imam sljedeći članak iz časopisa Review and Herald od 28. siječnja 1858. Razlog zbog kojega ga imam u vašim bilješkama jest taj što možete vidjeti da su 1858. još uvijek naučavali da je Svagdašnja služba poganstvo. To imate u svojoj referenci; osam godina nakon 1850. još su uvijek razumijevali da je Svagdašnja služba poganstvo.

> "ANOTHER important prophetic period upon which the Advent doctrine is based, is the 1335 days of Daniel 12, with which the 1290 days are so intimately connected. These two periods are introduced to us as follows:

> „DRUGO važno proročko razdoblje na kojem se temelji adventna doktrina jest 1335 dana iz Daniela 12, s kojima je 1290 dana tako tijesno povezano. Ta nam se dva razdoblja predstavljaju ovako:“

> "—And from the time that the daily (sacrifice) shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. Blessed is he that waiteth and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days. But go thou thy way till the end be; for thou shalt rest and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.' Daniel 12:11–13.

> „—I od vremena kad bude ukinuta svagdašnja žrtva i postavljena grozota pustoši, bit će tisuću dvjesto i devedeset dana. Blago onomu koji ustraje i dočeka tisuću tristo i trideset i pet dana. A ti idi svojim putem do svršetka; jer ćeš počinuti i ustati na svoju baštinu na svršetku dana.” Daniel 12,11–13.

"The questions at once arise, Can we tell what the events are, from which these periods are to be dated; and if so, can we tell when they took place? We first enquire. What is the—'daily' (sacrifice) and the —abomination that maketh desolate'? It will be noticed that the word, sacrifice, is in italics: denoting that it is a supplied word. The same will be noticed in the other instances of its occurrence in the book of Daniel, viz., chapter 11:31 and 8:11–13. Let us briefly refer to this latter chapter. In verse 13 it will be observed that two desolations are brought to view; the daily (desolation,) and the transgression of desolation. This fact is made so plain by Josiah Litch that we cannot do better than quote his language:*

„Odmah se nameću pitanja: možemo li odrediti koji su to događaji od kojih se ta razdoblja imaju računati; i ako možemo, možemo li odrediti kada su se zbili? Najprije ispitujemo: Što je — „svagdašnja” (žrtva) i — „gnusoba koja pustoši”? Uočit će se da je riječ žrtva tiskana kurzivom, što pokazuje da je to dodana riječ. Isto će se uočiti i u drugim slučajevima njezine pojave u knjizi proroka Daniela, naime u 11,31 i 8,11–13. Osvrnimo se ukratko na ovo potonje poglavlje. U 13. retku zamijetit će se da su pred nas stavljene dvije pustoši: svagdašnja (pustoš) i prijestup pustoši. Tu je činjenicu Josiah Litch iznio tako jasno da ne možemo učiniti bolje nego navesti njegove riječi:*”

"—The daily sacrifice is the present reading of the text; but no such thing as sacrifice is found in the original. This is acknowledged on all hands. It is a gloss or construction put upon it by the translators. The true reading is, "the daily and the transgression of desolation;" daily and transgression being connected together by "and" the daily desolation and the transgression of desolation. They are two desolating powers which were to desolate the Sanctuary and the host.'

„—Svagdašnja žrtva jest sadašnje čitanje teksta; ali u izvorniku se ne nalazi ništa poput žrtve. To se općenito priznaje. To je glosa ili tumačenje koje su na njega stavili prevoditelji. Ispravno čitanje glasi: „svagdašnje i prijestup pustoši“; svagdašnje i prijestup povezani su zajedno veznikom „i“ — svagdašnja pustoš i prijestup pustoši. To su dvije pustošeće sile koje su trebale opustošiti Svetište i vojsku.“

"From this it is evident that the —daily,' can have no reference to the Jewish worship to which it has been applied by the older and more prevalent opinion; and this is further evident from the consideration that if these periods, taken either literally or figuratively, be dated from any taking away of this worship, they do not bring us to any event whatever worthy of note.

Iz ovoga je očito da se „svagdašnja” nikako ne može odnositi na židovsko bogoslužje, na koje ju je primjenjivalo starije i raširenije mišljenje; a to je nadalje očito i iz razmatranja da, ako se ta razdoblja, uzeta bilo doslovno bilo slikovito, računaju od bilo kakva ukidanja toga bogoslužja, ona nas ne dovode ni do kakva događaja koji bi uopće bio vrijedan spomena.

"The daily and the abomination then, are two desolating powers which were to oppress the church: can we ascertain what these powers are? We have only to adopt William Miller's method of reasoning on this point to arrive at the same conclusion with him. He says:

„Svakodnevna i gadost, dakle, jesu dvije pustošeće sile koje su trebale tlačiti crkvu: možemo li utvrditi koje su to sile? Potrebno nam je samo prihvatiti metodu rasuđivanja Williama Millera o toj točki da bismo došli do istoga zaključka kao i on. On kaže:“

> "—I read on, and could find no other case in which if [the daily] was found but in Daniel. I then [by the aid of a concordance] took those words which stood in connection with it, —take away;' —he shall take away the daily'; —from the time that the daily shall be taken away'; &c. I read on and thought I should find no light on the text. Finally I came to 2 Thessalonians 2:7, 8, —For the mystery of iniquity doth already work; only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way, and then shall that wicked be revealed.'&c. And when I had come to that text, O, how clear and glorious the truth appeared! There it is! That is —the daily!' Well, now, what does Paul mean by —he who now letteth' or hindereth? By —the Man of Sin,' and the —wicked,' Popery is meant. Well what is it which hinders Popery from being revealed? Why it is Paganism. Well, then, —the daily' must mean Paganism.'+

> „—Nastavio sam čitati i nisam mogao naći nijedan drugi slučaj u kojem se [svagdašnja] pojavljuje osim u Danielu. Tada sam [uz pomoć konkordancije] uzeo one riječi koje su stajale u vezi s njom: —uzeti;' —on će uzeti svagdašnju'; —od vremena kad svagdašnja bude uzeta'; itd. Čitao sam dalje i mislio da neću naći nikakva svjetla o tom tekstu. Napokon sam došao do 2. Solunjanima 2,7.8: —Jer tajna bezakonja već djeluje; samo onaj koji sada zadržava, zadržavat će dok ne bude uklonjen, a tada će se otkriti onaj bezakonik.'&c. A kada sam došao do toga teksta, o, kako se jasno i slavno pokazala istina! Eto je! To je —svagdašnja!' Dobro, dakle, što Pavao misli pod —onaj koji sada zadržava' ili priječi? Pod —Čovjekom grijeha' i —bezakonikom' misli se na papinstvo. Dobro, što je onda to što priječi da se papinstvo otkrije? Pa to je poganstvo. Dakle, —svagdašnja' mora značiti poganstvo.”+

> "We see from Daniel 8, that it is the little horn, which succeeded the goat, or Grecian empire, that takes away the —daily;' and it is the only power brought to view after the division of Alexander's kingdom down to the time when the Sanctuary should be cleansed at the end of the 2300 days. This little horn we have in its proper place showed to be Rome taken as a unit, corresponding with the fourth kingdom of Daniel's other visions. Now it is a fact that a change did take place in the Roman power from Paganism to Papacy. Paganism from the days of the Assyrian kings down to the time of its modification into Popery, had been the daily, or as Professor Whiting renders it, —the continual' desolation, by which Satan had stood up against the cause of Jehovah. In its priests, its altars and its sacrifices, it bore resemblance to the Levitical form of Jehovah's worship; but when the Levitical gave place to the Christian form of worship, Satan, in order to successfully oppose the work, must change also his form of opposition; hence the temples, altars and statues of Paganism are baptized into the blasphemies of Popery.

> Vidimo iz Daniela 8 da upravo mali rog, koji je naslijedio jarca, odnosno grčko carstvo, oduzima „svagdašnju žrtvu“; i to je jedina sila koja se pojavljuje nakon podjele Aleksandrova kraljevstva pa sve do vremena kada Svetište treba biti očišćeno na kraju 2300 dana. Taj mali rog pokazali smo na njegovu pravome mjestu kao Rim, uzet kao jedinstvenu cjelinu, koji odgovara četvrtome kraljevstvu iz Danielovih drugih viđenja. Sada je činjenica da je u rimskoj sili doista nastupila promjena od poganstva do papinstva. Poganstvo je od dana asirskih kraljeva pa sve do vremena svoje preinake u papizam bilo svagdašnje, ili kako to profesor Whiting prevodi, „neprestano“ pustošenje, kojim se Sotona podizao protiv stvari Jehovine. U svojim svećenicima, svojim žrtvenicima i svojim žrtvama nosilo je sličnost s levitskim oblikom Jehovina bogoštovlja; ali kada je levitski ustupio mjesto kršćanskome obliku bogoštovlja, Sotona je, da bi se uspješno suprotstavio djelu, morao također promijeniti i svoj oblik protivljenja; stoga su hramovi, žrtvenici i kipovi poganstva kršteni u bogohulstva papizma.

> "But the daily, Paganism, is said in the prophecy, to have a sanctuary, and the place of its sanctuary was to be cast down. That a sanctuary is frequently connected with idolatry and heathenism, as the place of its devotion and worship, is evident from the following scriptures: Isaiah 16:12; Amos 7:9, 13, margin. Ezekiel 28:18. Concerning the sanctuary of the daily of Daniel 8, we offer the following from Apollos Hale:*

> „No za svagdašnje, poganstvo, u proročanstvu se kaže da ima Svetište, i mjesto njegova Svetišta trebalo je biti oboreno. Da se Svetište često povezuje s idolopoklonstvom i poganstvom, kao mjesto njihove pobožnosti i bogoslužja, očito je iz sljedećih svetopisamskih redaka: Izaija 16:12; Amos 7:9, 13, margina. Ezekiel 28:18. O Svetištu svagdašnjega iz Daniela 8 donosimo sljedeće od Apollosa Halea:*“

"—What can be meant by the —sanctuary' of Paganism? Paganism, and error of every kind, have their sanctuaries, as well as truth. These are the temples or asylums consecrated to their service. Some particular and renowned temple of Paganism may, then, be supposed to be here spoken of. Which of its numerous distinguished temples may it be? One of the most magnificent specimens of classic architecture is called the Pantheon. Its name signifies the —temple or asylum of all the gods.' The place of its location is Rome.+ The idols of the nations conquered by the Romans were sacredly deposited in some niche or department of this temple, and in many cases became objects of worship by the Romans themselves. Could we find a temple of Paganism that was more strikingly —his sanctuary.'"

"—Što se može misliti pod —svetištem' poganstva? Poganstvo i zabluda svake vrste imaju svoja svetišta jednako kao i istina. To su hramovi ili utočišta posvećena njihovoj službi. Može se, dakle, pretpostaviti da se ovdje govori o nekom osobitom i znamenitom hramu poganstva. Koji bi to od njegovih brojnih glasovitih hramova mogao biti? Jedan od najveličanstvenijih primjera klasične arhitekture naziva se Panteon. Njegovo ime znači —hram ili utočište svih bogova.' Mjesto na kojem se nalazi jest Rim.+ Idoli naroda koje su Rimljani pokorili bili su pobožno pohranjivani u neku nišu ili odjel ovoga hrama te su u mnogim slučajevima i sami postajali predmetima štovanja Rimljana. Bismo li mogli naći hram poganstva koji bi bio upečatljivije —njegovo svetište.'"

"Having now ascertained that the daily is Paganism, and the transgression of desolation, or —the abomination that maketh desolate,' is the Papacy, and that the especial sanctuary of Paganism was the Pantheon, and that the —place' of its location was Rome, we inquire further.

„Utvrdivši sada da je svagdašnja služba poganstvo, a prijestup opustošenja, ili —odvratnost pustoši', papinstvo, te da je osobito svetište poganstva bio Panteon, a da je —mjesto' njegova smještaja bio Rim, istražujemo dalje.

"1. Was Paganism —taken away' by the Roman civil power? The following statement of an important and well-known fact in the history of the church and world, we think answers to the prophecy. It refers to Constantine the first Christian emperor, and says:

„1. Je li poganstvo bilo —uklonjeno' od strane rimske građanske vlasti? Smatramo da sljedeća izjava o važnoj i dobro poznatoj činjenici u povijesti Crkve i svijeta odgovara proročanstvu. Ona se odnosi na Konstantina, prvoga kršćanskog cara, i kaže:“

"—His first act of government was the dispatch of an edict throughout the empire, exhorting his subjects to embrace Christianity.'++

„—Prvi čin njegove vladavine bijaše izdavanje edikta po cijelome Carstvu, kojim je svoje podanike poticao da prigrle kršćanstvo.”++

"2. Was Rome the city or place of his sanctuary, (the Pantheon,) cast down by the authority of the State? The following extract answers:

„2. Je li Rim, grad ili mjesto njegova svetišta, (Panteon,) bio oboren autoritetom Države? Sljedeći izvadak daje odgovor:“

"—The death of the last rival of Constantine had sealed the peace of the empire. Rome was once more the undisputed queen of nations. But, in that hour of elevation and splendor, she had been raised to the edge of a precipice. Her next step was to be downward and irrecoverable. The change of the government to Constantinople still perplexes the historian. It was an act in direct repugnance to the whole course of the ancient and honorable prejudices of the Roman mind. It was the work of no luxurious Asiatic, devoted to the indulgences of eastern customs and climates, but an iron conqueror, born in the west, and contemptuous, like all Romans, of the habits of the orientals; it was the work of a keen politician, yet it was impolitic in the most palpable degree. Yet Constantine abandoned Rome, the great citadel and throne of the Caesars, for an obscure corner of Thrace, and expended the remainder of his vigorous and ambitious life in the double toil of raising a colony into the capital of his empire, and degrading the capital into the feeble honors and humiliated strength of a colony.'*

—Smrt posljednjega Konstantinova suparnika zapečatila je mir Carstva. Rim je ponovno bio neosporna kraljica narodâ. No, u tom času uzdignuća i sjaja, bio je podignut na sam rub ponora. Njegov sljedeći korak trebao je biti silazan i nepovratan. Premještaj uprave u Konstantinopol još uvijek zbunjuje povjesničara. Bio je to čin u izravnoj suprotnosti s cjelokupnim tijekom drevnih i časnih predrasuda rimskoga duha. To nije bilo djelo kakva raskošna Azijca, odana užicima istočnih običaja i podneblja, nego željeznoga osvajača, rođena na zapadu i prezirna, poput svih Rimljana, prema navikama istočnjakâ; bilo je to djelo pronicava političara, a ipak je bilo nepolitično u najočitijem mogućem stupnju. Pa ipak, Konstantin je napustio Rim, veliku utvrdu i prijestolje carevâ, radi opskurna kutka Trakije, i utrošio ostatak svoga snažnog i ambicioznog života u dvostrukom naporu: da koloniju uzdigne u prijestolnicu svoga Carstva, a prijestolnicu snizi na slabašne časti i poniženu snagu kolonije.'*

"This record from the pen of the historian is too plain to need comment. The place of his sanctuary was cast down, says the prophecy; and after a statement of facts like the above, the most fastidious in prophetic interpretation must be satisfied of its application.

Ovaj zapis iz pera povjesničara odviše je jasan da bi zahtijevao komentar. Mjesto njegova Svetišta bilo je oboreno, kaže proročanstvo; i nakon iznošenja činjenica poput gore navedenih, i najizbirljiviji u proročkom tumačenju mora biti zadovoljan njegovom primjenom.

"From the time that the daily shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. Blessed is he that waiteth and cometh to the thousand three hundred five and thirty days. With the facts before us that the daily is Paganism, that the abomination that maketh desolate is the Papacy, that there was a change from the former to the latter in the Roman power, and by the authority of State we have but to inquire further when this took place in a manner to fulfill the prophecy; for if we can ascertain this, we have the starting point from which the prophetic periods in the text before us are to be dated. Therefore,

„Od vremena kad se ukine svagdanja žrtva i postavi gnusoba pustoši, bit će tisuću dvjesto i devedeset dana. Blago onomu koji čeka i dočeka tisuću tristo i trideset i pet dana.” Budući da su pred nama činjenice da je svagdanja žrtva poganstvo, da je gnusoba pustoši papinstvo, da je u rimskoj vlasti došlo do promjene s prvoga na potonje, i to autoritetom države, preostaje nam samo dalje istražiti kada se to zbilo na način koji ispunjava proroštvo; jer ako to možemo utvrditi, imamo početnu točku od koje treba računati proročka razdoblja u tekstu koji je pred nama. Stoga,

> "3. When did the event referred to in the prophecy take place? Let it be observed, the question is not, when were the saints given into the hands of the Papacy, but when had the change of religion from Paganism to Papacy been so far effected as to make the latter the national religion, and place it in a condition to start upon its career. This, like all other great revolutions, was not the work of a moment. Its incipient workings were manifest long before. Paul said that even in his day the mystery of iniquity, the Man of Sin, the —abomination that maketh desolate,' was already at work. And it is in the light of this scripture that we must understand our Lord's words in Mathew 24:15, concerning the abomination of desolation, where he makes evident reference to Daniel 9:27. For although Paganism had not given place to the Papacy in the year 70 when Jerusalem was destroyed by the Romans we do understand that the power which then appeared modified somewhat in name and form, was the very power that should, as the abomination of desolation, wear out the saints and desolate the church of the Most High.

> „3. Kada se zbio događaj na koji se odnosi proročanstvo? Neka se uoči da pitanje nije: kada su sveti bili predani u ruke Papinstva, nego kada je promjena religije iz poganstva u papinstvo bila toliko provedena da je potonje postalo državna religija i dovedeno u stanje da započne svoju karijeru. To, kao i sve druge velike revolucije, nije bilo djelo jednoga trenutka. Njegova početna djelovanja bila su očita mnogo prije. Pavao je rekao da je već u njegovo doba tajna bezakonja, Čovjek grijeha, „gnusoba pustoši“, već na djelu. I upravo u svjetlu ovoga mjesta moramo razumjeti riječi našega Gospodina u Mateju 24:15 o gnusobi pustoši, gdje on očito upućuje na Daniela 9:27. Jer premda poganstvo nije ustupilo mjesto Papinstvu godine 70., kada su Rimljani razorili Jeruzalem, ipak razumijemo da je sila koja se tada pojavila, donekle izmijenjena u imenu i obliku, bila upravo ona sila koja je, kao gnusoba pustoši, trebala iscrpljivati svete i pustošiti crkvu Svevišnjega.“

"Up to the time of the conversion of Clovis, king of France, which took place in 496, the French and other nations of western Rome were Pagan; but subsequent to that event the efforts to convert idolaters to Christ were crowned with great success. It is said that the conversion of Clovis gave rise to the custom of addressing the French monarch with the titles of Most Christian Majesty and Eldest Son of the Church.+ Between that time and A.D. 508 by "alliances," "capitulations" and conquests, "the Avborici," the "Roman garrisons in the west," Brittany, the Burgundians and the Visigoths, were brought into subjection.'++

Do vremena obraćenja Klodviga, kralja Francuske, koje se dogodilo 496. godine, Francuzi i drugi narodi zapadnoga Rima bili su pogani; ali nakon toga događaja napori da se idolopoklonici obrate Kristu bili su okrunjeni velikim uspjehom. Kaže se da je obraćenje Klodviga dalo povoda običaju da se francuskoga monarha oslovljava naslovima Presveto kršćansko Veličanstvo i Najstariji sin Crkve.+ Između toga vremena i 508. godine po Kr., „savezima“, „kapitulacijama“ i osvajanjima, „Arborici“, „rimske posade na zapadu“, Bretanja, Burgundi i Vizigoti bili su podvrgnuti.'++

"—Paganism in the western Roman Empire, though it doubtless retarded the progress of the Christian faith, especially in those nations which were molested, as in the case of England, by the inroads of the barbarous clans, who continued idolaters, henceforth had not the power, if it had the disposition to suppress the Catholic faith, or to hinder the encroachments of the Roman Pontiff.

—Poganstvo u zapadnom Rimskom Carstvu, premda je bez sumnje usporavalo napredak kršćanske vjere, osobito u onim narodima koje su uznemirivali, kao u slučaju Engleske, prodori barbarskih plemena koja su ostala idolopoklonička, odsad više nije imalo moći, ako je i imalo nakanu, potisnuti katoličku vjeru ili spriječiti zadiranja rimskoga prvosvećenika.

"From that time, the Papal abomination was triumphant, so far as Paganism was concerned. Its future contests were with the other Christian sects, who were always treated as heretics; and with princes who were always treated as rebels or dividers of the body of Christ. The prominent powers of Europe gave up their attachment to Paganism only to perpetuate its abominations in another form; for Paganism needed only to be baptized to become Christian in the Catholic sense; and when the interests or vengeance of its presiding minister made the demand, their possessions and thrones,—perhaps their lives,—must be laid on the altar. SS

Od toga vremena papinska je gnusoba bila pobjedonosna, što se tiče poganstva. Njezini su budući sukobi bili s drugim kršćanskim sektama, koje su se uvijek smatrale hereticima; i s knezovima, koji su se uvijek smatrali pobunjenicima ili razdjeliteljima tijela Kristova. Istaknute sile Europe odrekle su se svoje privrženosti poganstvu samo zato da bi njegove gnusobe ovjekovječile u drugom obliku; jer poganstvu je bilo potrebno samo da bude kršteno kako bi postalo kršćansko u katoličkom smislu; a kada bi to zahtijevali interesi ili osveta njegova vrhovnog službenika, njihovi posjedi i prijestolja — a možda i njihovi životi — morali su biti položeni na žrtvenik. SS

"* Prophetic Exposition, Volume 1, 127.

* Proročko tumačenje, svezak 1, 127.

"+ Goodrich's Universal Hist. and Gutherie's Geog.'

+ Goodrichova Universal Hist. i Gutheriejeva Geog.'

"+ Mosheim Christian History, Volume 1, 132, 133.

+ Mosheimova kršćanska povijest, svezak 1, 132, 133.

"In England, Arthur, the first Christian king, founded the Christian worship on the ruins of the Pagan.* Rapin, who claims to be more exact in the chronology of events in his history, states that he was elected monarch of Britain in 508. Book 2, 129.

U Engleskoj je Artur, prvi kršćanski kralj, utemeljio kršćansko bogoslužje na ruševinama poganstva.* Rapin, koji tvrdi da je u svojoj povijesti točniji u kronologiji događaja, navodi da je izabran za monarha Britanije godine 508. Knjiga 2, 129.

"What was the condition of the See of Rome at this time? —Symmachus was Pope from 498 or 9 to 514. His pontificate was distinguished by these remarkable circumstances and events:

Kakvo je bilo stanje Rimske Stolice u to vrijeme? — Simah je bio papa od 498. ili 499. do 514. Njegov je pontifikat bio obilježen ovim značajnim okolnostima i događajima:

"1. He —left Paganism' when he entered the —church of Rome.'

„1. On je —napustio poganstvo' kada je stupio u —Rimsku crkvu.'

"2. He found his way to the Papal chair by striving with his competitor even unto blood. Du Pin.

„2. Do papinske stolice domogao se boreći se sa svojim suparnikom čak do krvi.“ Du Pin.

"3. By the adulation paid to him as the successor of St. Peter.

3. Obožavanjem koje mu se iskazuje kao nasljedniku sv. Petra.

"4. By the excommunication of the Emperor Anastasius.+

"4. Izopćenjem cara Anastazija.+"

"—How much,' says Mosheim, —the opinions of some were favorable to the lordly demands of the Roman Pontiffs, may be easily imagined from an expression of Ennodius, that infamous and extravagant flatterer of Symmachus, who was a prelate of ambiguous fame. This parasitical panegyrist, among other impertinent assertions maintained that the Pontiff was constituted judge in the place of God, which he filled as the Vicegerent of the Most High.'++

„—Koliko su, kaže Mosheim, mišljenja nekih bila sklona gospodarskim zahtjevima rimskih pontifa, može se lako zamisliti iz izjave Ennodija, toga ozloglašenog i pretjeranog laskavca Simahu, koji je bio prelat dvoznačna glasa. Taj parazitski panegiričar, među ostalim neumjesnim tvrdnjama, ustvrdio je da je pontif postavljen za suca na mjestu Boga, koje je ispunjavao kao namjesnik Svevišnjega.”++

"By the strength secured to the Catholic cause in the west, by these successes, and the agency of the vicars, and other agents of the See of Rome, the Papal party in Constantinople were —placed' in a position to justify open hostilities in behalf of their master at Rome. In 508 the whirlwind of fanaticism and civil war swept in fire and blood through the streets of the eastern capital.'

„Snagom pribavljenom katoličkoj stvari na zapadu, tim uspjesima te djelovanjem vikara i drugih zastupnika Rimske Stolice, papinska je stranka u Konstantinopolu bila — postavljena — u položaj da opravda otvorena neprijateljstva u korist svojega gospodara u Rimu. Godine 508. vihor fanatizma i građanskoga rata prohujao je u ognju i krvi ulicama istočne prijestolnice.“

"Gibbon, under the years 508–514, speaking of the commotions in Constantinople, says —The statues of the emperor were broken, and his person was concealed in a suburb, till, at the end of three days, he dared to implore the mercy of his subjects. [Popery is triumphant.] Without his diadem, and in the posture of a suppliant, Anastasius appeared on the throne of the circus. The Catholics, before his face, rehearsed the genuine Trisagion; they exulted in the offer which he proclaimed by the voice of a herald, of abdicating the purple; they listened to the admonition, that, since all could not reign, they should previously agree in the choice of a sovereign; and they accepted the blood of two unpopular ministers, whom their master, without hesitation, condemned to the lions. These furious but transient seditions were encouraged by the success of Vitalian, who with his army of Huns and Bulgarians, for the most part idolaters, declared himself the champion of the Catholic faith. In this pious rebellion he depopulated Thrace, besieged Constantinople, exterminated sixty-five thousand of his fellow Christians, till he obtained the recall of the bishops, the satisfaction of the Pope, and the establishment of the council of Chalcedon, an orthodox treaty, reluctantly signed by the dying Anastasius, and more faithfully performed by the uncle of Justinian. And such was the event of the first of the religious wars which have been waged in the name, and by the disciples, of the God of Peace." SS

Gibbon, pod godinama 508.–514., govoreći o nemirima u Carigradu, kaže: — Kipovi cara bijahu razbijeni, a njegova se osoba skrivala u jednom predgrađu sve dok se, na kraju triju dana, nije usudio zazvati milosrđe svojih podanika. [Papinstvo je trijumfalno.] Bez svoje dijademe i u stavu molitelja, Anastazije se pojavio na prijestolju cirkusa. Katolici su pred njegovim licem ponavljali izvorni Trisagion; klicali su ponudi koju je on preko glasa glasnika objavio, da će se odreći purpura; slušali su opomenu da se, budući da ne mogu svi vladati, prethodno slože u izboru vladara; i prihvatili su krv dvojice neomiljenih ministara, koje je njihov gospodar, bez oklijevanja, osudio lavovima. Te bijesne, ali prolazne pobune bile su ohrabrene uspjehom Vitalijana, koji se sa svojom vojskom Huna i Bugara, većinom idolopoklonika, proglasio zaštitnikom katoličke vjere. U toj pobožnoj pobuni opustošio je Trakiju, opsjedao Carigrad, istrijebio šezdeset i pet tisuća svojih sukršćana, dok nije ishodio povratak biskupa, zadovoljštinu za Papu i uspostavu Kalcedonskoga sabora, pravovjernoga sporazuma koji je nevoljko potpisao umirući Anastazije, a vjernije ga izvršio Justinijanov stric. I takav je bio ishod prvoga od vjerskih ratova koji su vođeni u ime i od učenika Boga mira. SS

"With the following extract from Appollos Hale, we close the testimony on this point: —We now invite our modern Gamaliels to take a position with us in the place of the sanctuary of Paganism (since claimed as the "patrimony of St. Peter") in 508. We look a few years into the past, and the rude Paganism of the northern barbarians is pouring down upon the nominally Christian empire of Western Rome—triumphing everywhere—and its triumphs everywhere distinguished by the most savage cruelty. . . . The empire falls and is broken into fragments. One by one the lords and rulers of these fragments, abandon their Paganism and profess the Christian faith. In religion the conquerors are yielding to the conquered. But still Paganism is triumphant. Among its supporters there is one stern and successful conqueror. (Clovis.) But soon he also bows before the power of the new faith and becomes its champion. He is still triumphant, but, as a hero and conqueror, reaches the zenith at the point we occupy, A.D. 508.

„Sljedećim ulomkom iz Appollosa Halea zaključujemo svjedočanstvo o ovoj točki: —Sada pozivamo naše suvremene Gamaliele da zajedno s nama zauzmu mjesto u svetištu poganstva (na koje se sada polaže pravo kao na „baštinu sv. Petra”) godine 508. Pogledajmo nekoliko godina unatrag, i grubo poganstvo sjevernih barbara obrušava se na nominalno kršćansko carstvo Zapadnog Rima — posvuda pobjeđujući — a njihove pobjede posvuda su obilježene najdivljačkijom okrutnošću. . . . Carstvo pada i razbija se u ulomke. Jedan po jedan gospodari i vladari tih ulomaka napuštaju svoje poganstvo i ispovijedaju kršćansku vjeru. U religiji osvajači ustupaju pred pobijeđenima. Ali poganstvo je još uvijek pobjedonosno. Među njegovim pristašama nalazi se jedan strog i uspješan osvajač. (Klodvig.) No uskoro se i on prigiba pred silom nove vjere i postaje njezin zagovornik. On je i dalje pobjedonosan, ali kao junak i osvajač doseže svoj vrhunac na točki na kojoj se mi nalazimo, godine Gospodnje 508.”

"—In or near the same year, the last important subdivision of the fallen empire is publicly, and by the coronation of its triumphant —monarch' Christianized.

—U istoj godini ili približno u isto vrijeme, posljednja važna podjela paloga carstva javno se, i krunidbom njegova pobjedonosnog „vladara“, pokršćuje.

"—The pontiff for the period on which we stand is a recently converted Pagan. The bloody contest which placed him in the chair was decided by the interposition of an Arian king. He is bowed to and saluted as filling —the place of God on earth.' The senate is so far under his power, that, on suspicion that the interests of the See of Rome demand it, they excommunicate the emperor. . . . In 508 the mine is sprung beneath the throne of the Eastern Empire. The result of the confusion and strife it occasions is the humiliation of its rightful lord. Now the question is, at what time was Paganism so far suppressed, as to make room for its substitute and successor, the Papal abomination? When was this abomination placed in a position to start on its career of blasphemy and blood? Is there any other date for its being "placed," or "set up" in the room of Paganism, but 508? If the mysterious enchantress has not now brought all her victims within her power, she has taken her position, and some have yielded to the fascination.

“—Pontif za razdoblje na kojem stojimo nedavno je obraćen poganin. Krvavi sukob koji ga je postavio na stolicu odlučen je posredovanjem jednoga arijanskoga kralja. Pred njim se sagiba i pozdravlja ga se kao onoga koji ispunjava —mjesto Boga na zemlji.’ Senat je toliko pod njegovom vlašću da, na sumnju da to zahtijevaju interesi Rimske Stolice, izopćuje cara. . . . Godine 508. mina je potkopana pod prijestoljem Istočnoga Carstva. Ishod zbrke i sukoba što ih to izaziva jest poniženje njegova zakonitoga gospodara. Sada je pitanje: u koje je vrijeme poganstvo bilo toliko potisnuto da ustupi mjesto svojoj zamjeni i nasljednici, papinskoj gnusobi? Kada je ta gnusoba bila postavljena u položaj da započne svoj tijek hule i krvi? Ima li ikojega drugog datuma za to da je bila „postavljena” ili „uzdignuta” na mjesto poganstva osim 508.? Ako tajanstvena čarobnica još nije dovela sve svoje žrtve pod svoju vlast, ona je zauzela svoj položaj, a neki su već podlegli njezinoj opčinjenosti.”

"The others are at length subdued, —and kings, and peoples and multitudes, and nations, and tongues,' are brought under the spell which prepares them, even while —drunken with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus,' to —think they are doing God service,' and to fancy themselves the exclusive favorites of heaven, while becoming an easier and richer prey for the damnation of hell'*

„Drugi su naposljetku pokoreni, —i kraljevi, i puci, i mnoštva, i narodi, i jezici,‘ dovedeni su pod čaroliju koja ih pripravlja da, čak i dok su —pijani od krvi mučenika Isusovih,‘ —misle da služe Bogu,‘ i umišljaju da su isključivi miljenici neba, dok istodobno postaju lakši i bogatiji plijen za prokletstvo pakla‘*

"We have the date. The —daily' was taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up in 508. Dating from this point the 1290 days or years terminate in 1798 where, as has already been shown, the civil power was stricken from the Pope by the arm of Buonaparte. The 1335 days bring us 45 full years this side of that event.

„Imamo datum. Svagdašnja je žrtva bila ukinuta, a postavljena je grozota pustoši godine 508. Računajući od te točke, 1290 dana ili godina završava 1798., kada je, kao što je već pokazano, građanska vlast bila oduzeta Papi rukom Buonapartea. Tih 1335 dana dovode nas 45 punih godina s ove strane toga događaja.

"But some may say, How is it that you make the periods terminate in the past? Does it not read that Daniel should rest and stand in his lot at the end of the days? Certainly; and we believe it. But what is it for Daniel to stand in his lot? This point will come under consideration when we come to an explanation of the passing of the time, and an examination of the events that did take place at the end of the days. Meanwhile we here cast anchor till another week." Review and Herald, January 28, 1858.

„Ali neki mogu reći: Kako to da vi razdoblja završavate u prošlosti? Ne piše li da Daniel treba počinuti i stajati u svojoj baštini na svršetku dana? Zacijelo; i mi to vjerujemo. Ali što znači da Daniel stoji u svojoj baštini? Ova će točka doći na razmatranje kada prijeđemo na objašnjenje prolaska vremena i na ispitivanje događaja koji su se doista zbili na svršetku dana. U međuvremenu ovdje bacamo sidro do drugoga tjedna.” Review and Herald, 28. siječnja 1858.

Errors and Dangers of Prescott and Daniells; The Cities to Be Worked

Pogreške i opasnosti Prescotta i Daniellsa; Gradovi koje valja obrađivati

(A. G. Daniells was elected president of the General Conference in 1901. This suggests that this document was written in 1910, a time when Mrs. White was very concerned about Daniells' neglect of the cities and his involvement in the controversy over the "Daily.")

(A. G. Daniells bio je izabran za predsjednika Generalne konferencije 1901. godine. To upućuje na to da je ovaj dokument napisan 1910. godine, u vrijeme kada je gospođa White bila veoma zabrinuta zbog Daniellsova zanemarivanja gradova i njegova sudjelovanja u sporu oko „Svakidašnje žrtve”.)

Now, recently Steve Wohlberg was saying that he does not have to take a position on the Daily because Ellen White never had a position on the Daily, and if it is good enough for the prophetess to take that position, it is good enough for him.

Nedavno je Steve Wohlberg govorio da ne mora zauzeti stajalište o Svagdašnjoj službi, jer Ellen White nikada nije zauzela stajalište o Svagdašnjoj službi, te da, ako je prorokinji dovoljno dobro da zauzme takvo stajalište, dovoljno je dobro i za njega.

Well, Ellen White did have a position on the Daily. She said the Millerites had the correct view of it, and she understood it was Paganism. She understood that when Paganism was taken away, the 1335 began; and, she understood that other views than that only produced darkness and confusion.

Pa, Ellen White doista je imala stajalište o „Svakidašnjoj“. Rekla je da su mileriti imali ispravno gledište o njoj te je razumjela da je ona poganstvo. Razumjela je da je, kada je poganstvo bilo uklonjeno, započelo 1335; i razumjela je da druga gledišta osim toga proizvode samo tamu i pomutnju.

And the one that you can demonstrate from the history of 1850 that was really isolated as bringing darkness and confusion is Crosier's view that the Daily represented Christ's Sanctuary ministry; so, I think she had an understanding what the Daily was, not only what it was but what it represented because, if you left that position, you go into darkness and confusion.

A ono što iz povijesti 1850. godine možete pokazati kao ono što je doista bilo izdvojeno kao nešto što donosi tamu i pomutnju jest Crosierovo gledište da je Svagdašnja predstavljala Kristovu službu u Svetištu; stoga mislim da je ona imala razumijevanje o tome što je Svagdašnja bila, ne samo što je bila, nego i što je predstavljala, jer ako biste napustili to stajalište, otišli biste u tamu i pomutnju.

But, in 1910 Ellen White also rebuked the General Conference President and W. W. Prescott for pushing this same view as Crosier's.

No, 1910. godine Ellen White također je ukorila predsjednika Generalne konferencije i W. W. Prescotta zbog promicanja toga istog gledišta kao i Crosierova.

And no historian is going to argue that Prescott and Willie White and A. G. Daniells, that when they were pushing the Daily, they were pushing the idea that the Daily represented Christ's Sanctuary ministry. Everyone knows that.

I nijedan povjesničar neće tvrditi da su Prescott, Willie White i A. G. Daniells, kada su zastupali Svagdanju, zastupali stajalište da Svagdanja predstavlja Kristovu službu u Svetištu. To svatko zna.

But, you have got the entire article here from Manuscript Releases, volume 20.

Ali, ovdje imate cijeli članak iz Manuscript Releases, svezak 20.

When was this released? Well, it was released in 1988; so, it is available for students of Adventism to consider in 1988.

Kada je ovo objavljeno? Pa, objavljeno je 1988.; dakle, dostupno je studentima adventizma na razmatranje 1988. godine.

When did Willie White and Prescott and Daniells establish the false view of the Daily in Adventism? From 1919 to 1931 is when they accomplished their work. By 1931, forget about it!! Adventism is going to teach that the Daily represents Christ's Sanctuary ministry because they have accepted the interpretation of the Scriptures that comes from apostate Protestantism and Catholicism. And from this point on, the Daily is identified as Christ's Sanctuary ministry.

Kada su Willie White, Prescott i Daniells uspostavili lažno gledište o Svagdašnjoj u adventizmu? Svoje su djelo izvršili od 1919. do 1931. godine. Do 1931. zaboravite na to!! Adventizam će naučavati da Svagdašnja predstavlja Kristovu službu u Svetištu, jer su prihvatili tumačenje Svetoga pisma koje dolazi od otpaloga protestantizma i katolicizma. I od ove točke nadalje, Svagdašnja se poistovjećuje s Kristovom službom u Svetištu.

Awe, there are some voices that are opposing this that know better, but the tide has totally turned from that point on.

Jao, ima nekih glasova koji se tome protive i koji znaju bolje, ali se od toga trenutka plima potpuno preokrenula.

And then in 1988, the Ellen White Estate releases for us this statement from 1910 at the very time the Daily was being agitated by Prescott, Daniells, and Willie White.

A zatim 1988. godine Ellen White Estate objavljuje nam ovu izjavu iz 1910., upravo u vrijeme kada su Prescott, Daniells i Willie White uznemiravali pitanjem o Svagdašnjoj.

> "At this stage of our experience we are not to have our minds drawn away from the special light given [us] to consider at the important gathering of our conference. And there was Brother Daniells, whose mind the enemy was working;"

> U ovoj fazi našega iskustva ne smijemo dopustiti da se naše misli odvrate od posebne svjetlosti dane [nam] da je razmotrimo na važnom skupu naše konferencije. A ondje je bio brat Daniells, na čiji je um neprijatelj djelovao;

What does that mean? What does it mean that the enemy is working your mind? It means the Holy Spirit is not working your mind.

Što to znači? Što znači da neprijatelj djeluje na tvoj um? To znači da Duh Sveti ne djeluje na tvoj um.

> "...and your mind and Elder Prescott's mind were being worked by the angels that were expelled from heaven..."

> „...i na vaš um i na um starješine Prescotta djelovali su anđeli koji su bili izbačeni s neba...”

> "Satan's work was to divert your minds that jots and tittles should be brought in which the Lord did not inspire you to bring in. They were not essential. But this meant much to the cause of truth. And the ideas of your minds, if you could be drawn away to jots or tittles, is a work of Satan's devising. To correct little things in the books written, you suppose would be doing a great work. But I am charged, Silence is eloquence."

> Sotonino je djelo bilo odvratiti vaše umove kako bi se unijele sitnice i crtice koje vam Gospodin nije nadahnuo da ih unosite. One nisu bile bitne. Ali to je mnogo značilo za djelo istine. A zamisli vaših umova, ako ste mogli biti odvučeni na sitnice ili crtice, djelo su Sotonine zamisli. Pretpostavljate da biste ispravljanjem sitnih stvari u napisanim knjigama činili veliko djelo. Ali naloženo mi je: Šutnja je rječitost.

They wanted to go into Uriah Smith's book, Thoughts on Daniel and Revelation, and remove what he said about the Daily being Paganism. That is why in this time period one of the men that is fighting against Willie White and Prescott and Daniells is a man named Larry Smith.

Željeli su ući u knjigu Uriasa Smitha, Misli o Danielu i Otkrivenju, i ukloniti ono što je rekao o Svagdašnjoj kao o poganstvu. Zato je u ovom vremenskom razdoblju jedan od ljudi koji se bori protiv Willieja Whitea, Prescotta i Daniellsa čovjek po imenu Larry Smith.

Who is Larry Smith? That is Uriah's son, and he knows what they want to do and he is standing with his dad: the Daily is Paganism.

Tko je Larry Smith? To je Urijin sin, i on zna što oni žele učiniti te stoji uz svoga oca: Svagdašnja je poganstvo.

> "I am to say, Stop your picking flaws. If this purpose of the devil could only be carried out, then [it] appears to you [that] your work would be considered as most wonderful in conception. It was the enemy's plan to get all the supposed objectionable features where all classes of minds did not agree.

> Treba mi je reći: Prestanite sitničavo tražiti mane. Kad bi se ta đavolja namjera samo mogla provesti, tada vam se čini da bi se vaš rad smatrao najsjajnijim u zamisli. Neprijateljev je plan bio da sve navodno prijeporne značajke dovede ondje gdje se nisu slagali svi slojevi umova.

> "And what then? The very work that pleases the devil would come to pass. There would be a representation given to the outsiders not of our faith just what would suit them, that would develop traits of character which would"

> „I što onda? Upravo bi se izvršilo ono djelo koje godi đavlu. Vanjskima bi bio dan prikaz, ne naše vjere, nego upravo onakav kakav bi njima odgovarao, koji bi razvio crte karaktera koje bi“

do what? "cause great confusion."

učiniti što? „izazvati veliku pomutnju.”

Other views of the Daily have been adopted that bring confusion and darkness.

Usvojena su i druga gledišta o Svagdašnjoj, koja donose zbrku i tamu.

> "and occupy the golden moments which should be used zealously to bring the great message before the people. The presentations upon any subject we have worked upon could not all harmonize, and the results would be to confuse the minds of believers and unbelievers. This is the very thing that Satan had planned that should take place—anything that could be magnified as a disagreement.

> „i iskoristiti zlatne trenutke koje valja revno upotrijebiti da se veliki navještaj iznese pred narod. Izlaganja o bilo kojoj temi na kojoj smo radili ne bi se mogla sva uskladiti, a posljedica bi bila da se zbune umovi vjernika i nevjernika. Upravo je to ono što je Sotona planirao da se dogodi — bilo što što bi se moglo uveličati kao neslaganje.״

Lord willing, when we begin to prove these doctrines from our Bible study, we will look at Ezekiel 28; because, Ezekiel 28 is where the very root of the Daily is identified. Ezekiel 28 is about the exaltation of Lucifer, and she is marking it; because, as they are trying to say that the Daily represents Christ's Sanctuary ministry, not only were they rejecting the true view of the Daily, a symbol of self-exaltation, but they were manifesting that very self-exaltation in their own experience. She emphasizes they would bring confusion into our ranks.

Ako Gospodin da, kada počnemo dokazivati ove doktrine iz našeg proučavanja Biblije, osvrnut ćemo se na Ezekiela 28; jer upravo se u Ezekielu 28 prepoznaje sam korijen Svagdašnje. Ezekiel 28 govori o uzdignuću Lucifera, a ona to označuje; jer, dok nastoje reći da Svagdašnja predstavlja Kristovu službu u Svetištu, ne samo da su odbacivali ispravno razumijevanje Svagdašnje kao simbola samouzvišenja, nego su upravo to samouzvišenje očitovali u vlastitom iskustvu. Ona naglašava da bi unijeli zabunu u naše redove.

> "Now, here is a grand work, where strange spirits can figure. But the Lord has a work to [be] done to save perishing souls; and the places which Satan, disguised, could fill in, bringing confusion into our ranks, he will do to perfection, and all those little differences will become enlarged, prominent.

> Evo sada jednoga velikog djela u kojem se mogu očitovati čudni duhovi. Ali Gospodin ima djelo koje treba izvršiti kako bi spasio duše koje propadaju; a mjesta koja bi Sotona, prerušen, mogao popuniti, unoseći pomutnju u naše redove, on će ispuniti do savršenstva, i sve će se one male razlike uvećati i postati istaknute.

And what does it mean, "And I was shown"? God specifically told her this.

A što znači: „I bilo mi je pokazano“? Bog joj je to izričito rekao.

> "And I was shown from the first that the Lord had given neither Elders Daniells nor Prescott the burden of this work. Should Satan's wiles be brought in, should this "Daily" be such a great matter as to be brought in to confuse minds and hinder the advancement of the work at this important period of time? It should not, whatever may be. This subject should not be introduced,"

> „I od samoga početka bilo mi je pokazano da Gospod nije dao ni starješini Daniellsu ni Prescottu breme ovoga djela. Treba li uvesti Sotonine lukavštine, treba li to „Svakidašnje“ učiniti tako velikim pitanjem da se unese kako bi zbunilo umove i omelo napredovanje djela u ovome važnom vremenskom razdoblju? To ne bi trebalo biti, što god to bilo. Ovaj se predmet ne bi trebao uvoditi,“

Sister White understood the Daily, and she understood that teaching the Daily was Christ's Sanctuary ministry is something that came from angels that were expelled from Heaven and that it only brings confusion and darkness; and, she knew the Pioneer position that the Daily represented Paganism, and that when the Daily was taken away, the 1335-year time prophecy began. She knew that. She knew the difference, no matter what these guys want to say.

Sestra White razumjela je Svagdašnju, i razumjela je da je učenje kako je Svagdašnja Kristova služba u Svetištu nešto što je došlo od anđela koji su bili izbačeni s Neba te da ono donosi samo pomutnju i tamu; a znala je i pionirsko stajalište da Svagdašnja predstavlja poganstvo te da je, kad je Svagdašnja bila uklonjena, započelo vremensko proročanstvo od 1335 godina. Ona je to znala. Znala je razliku, bez obzira na to što ovi ljudi žele reći.

> "It should not, whatever may be. This subject should not be introduced, for the spirit that would be brought in would be forbidding, and Lucifer is watching every movement. Satanic agencies would commence his work and there would be confusion brought into our ranks. You have no call to hunt up the difference of opinion that is not a testing question; but your silence is eloquence. I have the matter all plainly before me. If the devil could involve any one of our own people on these subjects, as he has proposed to do, Satan's cause would triumph. Now the work without delay is to be taken up and not a [difference] of opinion expressed.

> „To ne bi trebalo biti, što god bilo. Ova se tema ne bi smjela uvoditi, jer bi duh koji bi se time unio bio zabranjujući, a Lucifer motri na svaki pokret. Sotonska bi oruđa započela njegovo djelo i u naše bi redove bila unesena zbrka. Nemate poziva tragati za razlikama u mišljenju koje nisu ispitno pitanje; ali vaša je šutnja rječitost. Cijela mi je stvar posve jasno predočena. Kad bi đavao mogao u ova pitanja uvući ikoga od našega vlastitog naroda, kao što je namjerio učiniti, Sotonina bi stvar trijumfirala. Sada valja bez odlaganja prihvatiti djelo i ne izražavati nikakvo [razmimoilaženje] u mišljenju.“

> "Satan would inspire those men who have gone out from us to unite with evil angels and retard our work on unimportant questions, and what rejoicing [there] would be in the camp of the enemy. Press together, press together. Let every difference be buried. Our work now is to devote all our physical and brain-nerve power to put these differences out of the way, and all harmonize. If Satan could with his great unsanctified wisdom be permitted to get the least hold, [he would rejoice].

> Sotona bi nadahnuo one ljude koji su izišli od nas da se ujedine sa zlim anđelima i da ometaju naše djelo nevažnim pitanjima, i kakva bi radost [tu] zavladala u taboru neprijatelja. Zbijte se, zbijte se. Neka svaka razlika bude pokopana. Naše je djelo sada posvetiti svu svoju tjelesnu snagu i svu snagu moždanih živaca tome da se te razlike uklone i da svi budu u skladu. Kad bi Sotoni s njegovom velikom neposvećenom mudrošću bilo dopušteno da zadobije i najmanje uporište, [radovao bi se].

> "Now, when I saw how you were working, my mind took in the whole situation and the results if you should go forward and give the parties that have left us the least chance to bring confusion into our ranks. Your lack of wisdom would be just what Satan would have it. Your loud proclamation was not under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. I was instructed to say to you that your picking flaws in the writings of men that have been led of God is not inspired of God. And if this is the wisdom that Elder Daniells would give to the people, by no means give him an official position, for he cannot reason from cause to effect. Your silence on this subject is your wisdom. Now, everything like picking flaws in the publications of men who are not alive is not the work God has given any of you to do. For if these men—Elders Daniells and Prescott—had followed the directions given in working the cities, there would have been many, very many, convinced of the truth and converted, able men that [now] are in positions where they never will be reached.

> Sada, kada sam vidjela kako radite, moj je um obuhvatio cjelokupnu situaciju i posljedice ako nastavite i date strankama koje su nas napustile i najmanju priliku da unesu pomutnju u naše redove. Vaš nedostatak mudrosti bio bi upravo ono što bi Sotona želio. Vaše glasno proglašavanje nije bilo pod nadahnućem Duha Svetoga. Upućena sam da vam kažem da vaše traženje mana u spisima ljudi koje je Bog vodio nije nadahnuto od Boga. A ako je to mudrost koju bi starješina Daniells dao narodu, nipošto mu ne dajte službeni položaj, jer on ne može rasuđivati od uzroka do posljedice. Vaša šutnja o toj temi vaša je mudrost. Sada, sve što nalikuje traženju mana u publikacijama ljudi koji nisu živi nije djelo koje je Bog ikomu od vas dao da čini. Jer da su ti ljudi — starješine Daniells i Prescott — slijedili dane upute u radu po gradovima, bilo bi mnogo, vrlo mnogo onih koji bi bili osvjedočeni o istini i obraćeni, sposobnih ljudi koji su [sada] na položajima do kojih se nikada neće doprijeti.

> "All the world is to be regarded as one great family. And when you have such a fountain of knowledge to draw from, why have you left the world to perish for years with the testimonies given by our Lord Jesus Christ? True religion teaches us to regard every man and woman as a person to whom we can do good.

> „Sav svijet treba smatrati jednom velikom obitelji. A kada imate takav izvor spoznaje iz kojega možete crpsti, zašto ste godinama ostavili svijet da propada bez svjedočanstava koja nam je dao naš Gospodin Isus Krist? Prava nas vjera uči da svakoga muškarca i svaku ženu smatramo osobom kojoj možemo činiti dobro.״

> "This has been in print many years: —A Balanced Mind,' testimony to Elder Andrews. The mind may be cultivated to become a power to know when to speak and what burdens to take up and to bear, for Christ is your teacher. And I feared greatly for you [when I saw you] exalting your wisdom and pursuing a course to bring in differences of opinion. The Lord calls for wise men who can hold their peace when it [is] wisdom for them to do so. If you would be a whole man, you need sanctification through Jesus Christ. Now there is a work just started, and let wisdom be seen in every minister, in every president of [a] conference. But here was a work for you to take hold of years ago where you were needed to lift your voice for this very work. Christ gave all His people special directions what they shall do and the things they shall not do. And there is a little time left us to work out the righteousness of the Lord. You can understand the way of the Lord. I saw your purpose of carrying things after your own devising after you were placed as president. You had thought you would do wonderful things, which would be a work God had not placed in your hands to do. Now, your work is not to oppress but to release every necessity possible if the Lord has accepted you to serve. But you have very early given evidence that wisdom and sanctified judgment have not been manifested by you. You blazed out matters that would not be received unless the Lord should give light.

> „Ovo je bilo tiskano mnogo godina: —Uravnotežen um’, svjedočanstvo upućeno starješini Andrewsu. Um se može odgajati da postane sila koja zna kada govoriti i kakva bremena preuzeti i nositi, jer Krist je vaš učitelj. I silno sam se bojala za vas [kad sam vas vidjela] kako uzvisujete svoju mudrost i slijedite put kojim unosite razlike u mišljenju. Gospodin traži mudre ljude koji mogu šutjeti kada je [to] za njih mudrost. Kad biste bili cjelovit čovjek, potrebna vam je posvećenost po Isusu Kristu. Sada je upravo započelo jedno djelo, i neka se mudrost očituje u svakom propovjedniku, u svakom predsjedniku konferencije. Ali ovdje je bilo djelo kojega ste se vi trebali prihvatiti prije mnogo godina, gdje ste bili potrebni da podignete svoj glas za upravo ovo djelo. Krist je svemu svojem narodu dao posebne upute što trebaju činiti i što ne trebaju činiti. I ostalo nam je malo vremena da ostvarimo pravednost Gospodnju. Vi možete razumjeti put Gospodnji. Vidjela sam vašu namjeru da vodite stvari prema vlastitoj zamisli nakon što ste postavljeni za predsjednika. Mislili ste da ćete učiniti čudesne stvari, što bi bilo djelo koje Bog nije stavio u vaše ruke da ga činite. Sada vaše djelo nije da tlačite, nego da oslobodite svaku moguću potrebu ako vas je Gospodin prihvatio da služite. Ali vi ste vrlo rano dali dokaz da se po vama nisu očitovali mudrost i posvećeni sud. Naglo ste iznosili pitanja koja ne bi bila prihvaćena osim ako bi Gospodin dao svjetlo.“

> "I have been instructed that such hasty movements should not have [been] made [such] as selecting you as president of the conference even another year. But the Lord forbids any more such hasty transactions until the matter is brought before the Lord in prayer; and as you have had the message come to you that the work of the Lord resting upon the president is a most solemn responsibility, you had no moral right to blaze out as you did upon the subject of the —Daily' and suppose your influence would decide the question. There was Elder Haskell, who has carried the heavy responsibilities, and there is Elder Irwin and several men I might mention who have the heavy responsibilities.

> Poučena sam da se takvi prenagli postupci nisu smjeli učiniti, kao što je bilo biranje vas za predsjednika konferencije čak i za još jednu godinu. Ali Gospodin zabranjuje ikakve daljnje takve prenagljene radnje dok se to pitanje ne iznese pred Gospodina u molitvi; a budući da vam je došla poruka da je djelo Gospodnje koje počiva na predsjedniku najsvečanija odgovornost, niste imali nikakvo moralno pravo planuti, kao što ste učinili, glede teme o „Daily“ i pretpostavljati da će vaš utjecaj odlučiti to pitanje. Tu je bio starješina Haskell, koji je nosio teške odgovornosti, a tu je i starješina Irwin i nekoliko ljudi koje bih mogla spomenuti, a koji nose teške odgovornosti.

> "Where was your respect for the men of age? What authority could you exercise without taking all the responsible men to weigh the matter? But let us now investigate the matter. We must now reconsider whether it is the Lord's judgment, in the face of the work that has been neglected, of showing your zeal to carry the work even another year. If you should carry the work another year with the help that shall unite with you, there should be a change take place in you and Elder Prescott. And humble your own hearts before God. The Lord will have to see in you a showing of a different experience, for if ever men needed to be reconverted at this present [time], it [is] Elder Daniells and Elder Prescott.

> „Gdje je bilo vaše poštovanje prema ljudima u godinama? Kakvu ste vlast mogli vršiti a da ne uključite sve odgovorne ljude kako bi razmotrili to pitanje? No, istražimo sada tu stvar. Moramo sada ponovno razmotriti je li to Gospodnji sud, s obzirom na djelo koje je bilo zanemareno, da pokažete svoju revnost i nastavite djelo još jednu godinu. Ako biste nastavili djelo još jednu godinu uz pomoć onih koji će se ujediniti s vama, trebala bi se dogoditi promjena u vama i starješini Prescottu. I ponizite svoja vlastita srca pred Bogom. Gospodin će u vama morati vidjeti očitovanje drukčijega iskustva, jer ako je ikad bilo ljudi kojima je u ovom sadašnjem [vremenu] bilo potrebno ponovno obraćenje, to su starješina Daniells i starješina Prescott.“

> "Seven men should be chosen that are men of wisdom and through the working of the grace of God [give] evidence [of] a reconversion. For any men who are so blinded that they cannot reason from cause to effect, that they would ignore the men who have borne the responsibilities of the work and these presidents of conferences, [that] men [who] carry the work for over two years should be disregarded and such an impulsive consequence take place that men would neglect the very work kept before them for years—work the cities—and no, or but very little, attention [be] given to the old men for counsel, but proclaim the things they choose to give the people, bears its own testimony of the unsafety of the men to be entrusted with such a grand and wonderful work.

> Treba izabrati sedmoricu ljudi koji su ljudi mudrosti i koji po djelovanju milosti Božje daju dokaz obraćenja iznova. Jer ako su neki ljudi tako zaslijepljeni da ne mogu rasuđivati od uzroka do posljedice, te bi zanemarili ljude koji su nosili odgovornosti djela i te predsjednike konferencija, da bi ljudi koji nose djelo više od dvije godine bili zanemareni i da bi nastupila takva nagla i nepromišljena posljedica da bi ljudi zanemarili upravo ono djelo koje im je godinama bilo stavljano pred oči — rad po gradovima — a starim ljudima ne bi se pridavala nikakva, ili tek vrlo mala, pozornost radi savjeta, nego bi objavljivali ono što sami izaberu dati narodu, to samo po sebi svjedoči o nepouzdanosti takvih ljudi da im se povjeri tako veliko i divno djelo.

> "Christ is not dead. He will never suffer His work to be carried on in this strange way. Let the books alone. If any change is essential, God will have the harmony in that change consistent, but when a message has been entrusted to men with the large responsibilities involved, [God] demands faithfulness that will work by love and purify the soul. Elders Daniells and Prescott both need reconversion. A strange work has come in, and it is not in harmony with the work Christ came to our world to do; and all who are truly converted will work the works of Christ.

> Krist nije mrtav. On nikada neće dopustiti da se Njegovo djelo nastavlja na ovaj neobičan način. Ostavite knjige na miru. Ako je ikakva promjena nužna, Bog će se pobrinuti da sklad u toj promjeni bude dosljedan, ali kada je poruka povjerena ljudima s velikim odgovornostima koje su s time povezane, [Bog] zahtijeva vjernost koja djeluje kroz ljubav i pročišćuje dušu. Starješine Daniells i Prescott obojica trebaju novo obraćenje. Ušlo je neko neobično djelo, i ono nije u skladu s djelom koje je Krist došao izvršiti na našemu svijetu; i svi koji su uistinu obraćeni činit će Kristova djela.

> "We are everyone [to] work out the work which shall glorify the Father. We have come to the crisis—either to conform to the character of Jesus Christ right in this preparatory time or not attempt [it]. Elder Daniells, [you are not] to feel at liberty to let your voice be heard on high as you have done under similar circumstances. And understand, the president of a conference is not a ruler. He works in connection with the wise men who occupy the position as presidents whom God has accepted. He has not liberty to meddle with the writings in printed books from the pens that God has accepted. They are no longer to bear sway unless they show less of the ruling, dominating power. The crisis has come, for God will be dishonored.

> „Svi trebamo izvršavati djelo koje će proslaviti Oca. Došli smo do krize — ili se upravo u ovome pripremnom vremenu suobličiti karakteru Isusa Krista ili to i ne pokušavati. Starješina Daniells, ne trebate smatrati da vam je dano pravo da se vaš glas čuje s visine kao što ste činili u sličnim okolnostima. I razumijte, predsjednik konferencije nije vladar. On djeluje u vezi s mudrim ljudima koji zauzimaju položaj predsjednika koje je Bog prihvatio. Nema slobodu upletati se u spise u tiskanim knjigama iz pera onih koje je Bog prihvatio. Oni više ne smiju vladati ako ne pokažu manje vladajuće, gospodareće moći. Kriza je došla, jer će Bog biti obeščašćen.“

> "How does the Lord look upon the unworked cities? Christ is in heaven. Now its acknowledgment is to be, —There is no kingly rule. And now is the crisis of this world. Now I am the Power to save or to destroy. Now is the time when the destiny of all is in My hands. I have given My life to save the world. And "I, if I be lifted up," the saving grace I shall impart will prove that all who will be fashioned after the divine similitude and will be one with Me shall work as I work with My power of redeeming grace.' Whoever will, [let him] take hold with his brethren to do the work given them to do when in responsible places under the counsel the Lord gives, and seek most earnestly to work in complete harmony with Him who so loved the world He gave His life a full sacrifice for the saving of the world. I speak to our ministers, that as they enter upon the work in our cities let there be a calm sacredness attending the ministry of the Word. We cannot make the proper impression upon the minds of the people if we . . . [Lower third of this page left blank.]

> „Kako Gospodin gleda na neobrađene gradove? Krist je na nebu. Sada treba biti priznanje: — Nema kraljevske vladavine. I sada je kriza ovoga svijeta. Sada sam Ja Sila da spasim ili da uništim. Sada je vrijeme kada je sudbina sviju u Mojim rukama. Dao sam svoj život da spasim svijet. A „I ja, kad budem uzdignut“, spasonosna milost koju ću podariti dokazat će da će svi koji se budu oblikovali po božanskoj sličnosti i budu jedno sa Mnom raditi kao što Ja radim svojom silom otkupiteljske milosti.’ Tko god hoće, neka se uhvati sa svojom braćom da izvrši djelo koje im je dano da ga izvrše kada su na odgovornim položajima pod savjetom koji Gospodin daje, i neka najozbiljnije nastoji raditi u potpunom skladu s Njime koji je tako ljubio svijet da je dao svoj život kao potpunu žrtvu za spasenje svijeta. Govorim našim propovjednicima da, kada stupe na rad u našim gradovima, neka smirena svetost prati službu Riječi. Ne možemo ostaviti pravi dojam na umove ljudi ako mi . . . [Donja trećina ove stranice ostavljena praznom.]”

> "I copy from my Diary. The truth as it is in Jesus—talk it, pray it, believe every word in its simplicity. What would you gain if mistakes are brought before the men who have departed from the faith and given heed to seducing spirits, men who were not long ago with us in the faith? Will you stand on the devil's side? Give your attention to the unworked fields. A world-wide work is before us. I was given representations of John Kellogg.

> Prepisujem iz svojega Dnevnika. Istina kakva je u Isusu — govorite je, molite je, vjerujte svakoj riječi u njezinoj jednostavnosti. Što biste dobili kad bi se pogreške iznosile pred ljude koji su otpali od vjere i poslušali zavodljive duhove, ljude koji su ne tako davno bili s nama u vjeri? Hoćete li stati na đavlovu stranu? Posvetite svoju pozornost neobrađenim poljima. Pred nama je djelo po svemu svijetu. Dane su mi predodžbe o Johnu Kelloggu.

> "A very attractive personage was representing the ideas of the specious arguments that he was presenting, sentiments different from the genuine Bible truth. And those who are hungering and thirsting after something new were advancing ideas [so specious] that Elder Prescott was in great danger. Elder Daniells was in great danger [of] becoming wrapped in a delusion that if these sentiments could be spoken everywhere it would be as a new world.

> Jedna vrlo privlačna osoba predstavljala je misli prividno uvjerljivih argumenata koje je iznosila, osjećaje različite od istinske biblijske istine. A oni koji su gladovali i žeđali za nečim novim iznosili su misli [tako prividno uvjerljive] da je starješina Prescott bio u velikoj pogibli. Starješina Daniells bio je u velikoj pogibli [da] bude obavijen zabludom da bi, kad bi se ti osjećaji mogli posvuda iznositi, to bilo kao novi svijet.

> "Yes, it would, but while their minds were thus absorbed I was shown that Brother Daniells and Brother Prescott were weaving into their experience sentiments of a spiritual[istic] appearance and drawing our people to beautiful sentiments that would deceive, if possible, the very elect."

> „Da, bilo bi, ali dok su im umovi tako bili zaokupljeni, pokazano mi je da brat Daniells i brat Prescott u svoje iskustvo utkivaju osjećaje duhovnoga [spiritističkoga] obilježja te naš narod privlače lijepim osjećajima koji bi, kad bi bilo moguće, prevarili i same izabranike.”

The very elect is not going to be deceived, but there are going to be people who are standing with the very elect that are going to get deceived. The very elect are the wise virgins. The foolish virgins are going to get deceived, right?

Sami izabrani neće biti zavedeni, ali bit će ljudi koji stoje uz same izabrane, a koji će biti zavedeni. Sami izabrani jesu mudre djevice. Lude djevice bit će zavedene, zar ne?

And as the wise virgins in this time period, when the temptation is there to deceive the very elect, as the wise virgins are receiving the outpouring of the Holy Spirit, what are the foolish virgins receiving? The strong delusion of 2 Thessalonians. We will deal with that, too, in connection with the Daily.

I kao mudre djevice u ovom vremenskom razdoblju, kada je kušnja tu da zavede i same izabrane, dok mudre djevice primaju izlijevanje Duha Svetoga, što primaju lude djevice? Snažnu zabludu iz 2. Solunjanima. Time ćemo se također baviti u vezi sa Svagdašnjom.

—"were weaving into their experience sentiments of a spiritual[istic] appearance and drawing our people to beautiful sentiments that would deceive, if possible, the very elect."

—„upletali su u svoje iskustvo osjećaje duhovnog[a] obličja i privlačili naš narod lijepim osjećajima koji bi, kad bi bilo moguće, prevarili i same izabrane.“

What is the very bottom line of spiritualism?

Koja je sama srž spiritizma?

When it comes to the story of King Saul, what did Samuel say? "Rebellion is as witchcraft." Rebellion is witchcraft.

Kad je riječ o priči o kralju Šaulu, što je Samuel rekao? „Nepokornost je kao čaranje.” Nepokornost je čaranje.

Where does Saul end up?

Gdje Šaul završava?

FROM THE AUDIENCE: With the witch of Endor.

IZ PUBLIKE: S vješticom iz Endora.

With the witch of Endor.

S vračarom iz Endora.

What was it that King Sault did to produce this train of events that leads him to the witch of Endor? He set his word above God's Word. He had been told what to do, but he went ahead and he did what he wanted to do.

Što je to kralj Šaul učinio da proizvede ovaj slijed događaja koji ga vodi k vračari u Endoru? Svoju je riječ stavio iznad Božje Riječi. Bilo mu je rečeno što da učini, ali je ipak nastavio i učinio ono što je sam htio učiniti.

The very bottom line of spiritualism is placing your word above God's Word. That is where it all starts. That is witchcraft.

Sâmo dno spiritualizma jest stavljanje svoje riječi iznad Božje Riječi. Tu sve započinje. To je vračarstvo.

Witchcraft is identifying how Satan brings you under his influence. How he entrances you it is a magical term dealing with magical deception.

Vračarstvo je prepoznavanje načina na koji vas Sotona dovodi pod svoj utjecaj. Način na koji vas opčinjava jest magijski izraz koji se odnosi na magijsku obmanu.

When you are bewitched, who is the first to become bewitched? The witch. It all starts when I place my word above God's Word. That is witchcraft, that is rebellion, and I am the one that has become bewitched. And that is what happened to Daniells and Prescott.

Kad ste začarani, tko prvi postaje začaran? Vještica. Sve započinje kad svoju riječ postavim iznad Božje Riječi. To je vračanje, to je pobuna, i ja sam taj koji je postao začaran. I to se dogodilo Daniellsu i Prescottu.

And what sentiments were Daniells and Prescott trying to bring in when this was happening? A wrong view of the Daily.

A kakve su osjećaje Daniells i Prescott nastojali unijeti dok se to događalo? Pogrešno gledište o Svagdašnjoj.

And what is the true view of the Daily? Is that it is Paganism, and Paganism is the religion of self-exaltation. It is a religion that began in the courts of Heaven when Satan, when Satan, set his word above God's Word and introduced into the history of mankind the mystery of iniquity.

A koje je pravo shvaćanje Svagdašnje? Da je to poganstvo, a poganstvo je religija samouzvišenja. To je religija koja je započela u dvorovima Neba kada je Sotona, kada je Sotona, svoju riječ uzdigao iznad Božje Riječi i uveo u povijest čovječanstva tajnu bezakonja.

The mystery of iniquity is Satan's work in bewitching us. It is Satan's work in getting us to place our word or his word above God's Word.

Tajna bezakonja jest Sotonino djelo kojim nas opčinjava. To je Sotonino djelo kojim nas navodi da svoju riječ ili njegovu riječ stavimo iznad Božje Riječi.

Do you follow my thought?

Pratite li moju misao?

Look up iniquity. It will define iniquity in Strong's Concordance. And when you take it down to the root word, what is the root word for iniquity? Alpha, alpha. That is the Alpha Apostasy.

Potražite bezakonje. Ono će definirati bezakonje u Strongovoj konkordanciji. A kada ga svedete na korijensku riječ, koja je korijenska riječ za bezakonje? Alfa, alfa. To je Alfa otpadništvo.

When were Daniells and Prescott pushing this foolish view? In the time period of the Alpha Apostasy.

Kada su Daniells i Prescott zastupali ovo bezumno gledište? U razdoblju Alfa otpadništva.

So, do not miss what Sister White is saying here about deceiving the very elect and about reading Ezekiel 28. She knew what was going on. She knew that this Daily thing is something that is not only wrong doctrinally but it requires those who are going to preach the wrong view of the Daily to place their word above God's Word and puts them in the position where they are bewitched; and, therefore, they are a tool in the hand of Satan to bewitch others with their rebellion.

Dakle, nemojte propustiti što sestra White ovdje govori o zavođenju samih izabranih i o čitanju Ezekiela 28. Ona je znala što se događa. Znala je da je ta stvar o Svagdašnjoj nešto što nije samo doktrinarno pogrešno, nego zahtijeva od onih koji će propovijedati pogrešno gledište o Svagdašnjoj da svoju riječ stave iznad Božje Riječi te ih dovodi u položaj u kojem su opčinjeni; i stoga su oruđe u Sotoninoj ruci da svojom pobunom opčinjavaju druge.

> "I have to trace with my pen [the fact] that these brethren would see defects in their delusive ideas that would place the truth in an uncertainty; and [yet] they [would] stand out as [if they had] great spiritual discernment. Now I am to tell them [that] when I was shown this matter,"

> Moram svojim perom zabilježiti [činjenicu] da bi ova braća u svojim zavaravajućim zamislima uviđala nedostatke koji bi istinu doveli u neizvjesnost; a [ipak] bi oni nastupali kao [da imaju] veliko duhovno rasuđivanje. A sada im trebam reći [da], kada mi je ta stvar bila pokazana,

People say, "Oh, Ellen White, she doesn't have a position on the Daily."

Ljudi kažu: „Oh, Ellen White, ona nema stajalište o Svagdašnjoj.“

> "when I was shown this matter when Elder Daniells was lifting up his voice like a trumpet in advocating his ideas of the —Daily,' the after results were presented. Our people were becoming confused. I saw the result, and then there were given me cautions that if Elder Daniells without respect to the outcome should thus be impressed and let himself believe he was under the inspiration of God,"—

> „kad mi je ova stvar bila pokazana, dok je starješina Daniells podizao svoj glas kao trubu zastupajući svoje ideje o —Daily, prikazani su mi kasniji rezultati. Naš je narod postajao zbunjen. Vidjela sam ishod, a potom su mi bila dana upozorenja da, ako bi starješina Daniells, ne obazirući se na posljedice, bio tako pod dojmom i dopustio sebi vjerovati da je pod Božjim nadahnućem,“

This is spiritualism. He has placed his word above God's Word. He is believing that he is being inspired by God.

To je spiritualizam. Svoju je riječ uzdigao iznad Božje Riječi. Vjeruje da ga nadahnjuje Bog.

> "that if Elder Daniells without respect to the outcome should thus be impressed and let himself believe he was under the inspiration of God, skepticism would be sown among our ranks everywhere, and we should be where Satan would carry his messages. Set unbelief and skepticism would be sown in human minds, and strangecrops of evil would take the place of truth. Ms 67, 1910, 1–8. Manuscript Release, volume 20, 17–22.

> „da bi se, ako bi starješina Daniells, ne obazirući se na ishod, bio tako dojmio i dopustio sebi da povjeruje kako je pod Božjim nadahnućem, posijao skepticizam posvuda među našim redovima, i mi bismo bili ondje kamo bi Sotona nosio svoje poruke. U ljudskim bi umovima bila posijana ukorijenjena nevjera i skepticizam, a čudni usjevi zla zauzeli bi mjesto istine. Ms 67, 1910, 1–8. Manuscript Release, volume 20, 17–22.

The strange crops of evil are growing all over Adventism today.

Neobični usjevi zla danas rastu posvuda po adventizmu.

Ellen White places her endorsement on the Pioneer understanding of the 2520.

Ellen White daje svoju potporu pionirskom razumijevanju 2520.

Ellen White places her endorsement on the Pioneer understanding that the Daily in the Book of Daniel represents Paganism.

Ellen White daje svoju potvrdu pionirskom razumijevanju da „Svagdašnja“ u Knjizi proroka Daniela predstavlja poganstvo.

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