Habakkuk's Two Tables 4 of 95
De tablo Habakouk yo 4 sou 95
For me it is pretty difficult to get through eight pages of notes in an hour's presentation, roughly. And if you will notice, we have 20 pages; so, I am just letting you know that I do not intend to read these notes. I intend to read some of these passages in here for those who are watching on LiveStream that can download the notes; and for those that ultimately watch this on DVD that they have this in the record for themselves, if they do not already have these articles available to them. What we are dealing with is Habakkuk's Two Tables, and at this point all we are doing is trying to demonstrate that Ellen White was in agreement with the truths represented on this 1843 Chart.
Pou mwen, li vrèman difisil pou m rive pase nan uit paj nòt nan yon prezantasyon ki dire anviwon inèdtan. E si nou remake, nou gen 20 paj; kidonk, m ap senpleman fè nou konnen ke mwen pa gen entansyon li nòt sa yo. Mwen gen entansyon li kèk nan pasaj sa yo ki la a pou moun k ap gade sou LiveStream yo, ki kapab telechaje nòt yo; epi pou moun ki pral finalman gade sa sou DVD, pou yo genyen sa nan dosye a pou tèt pa yo, si yo pa deja gen atik sa yo disponib pou yo. Sa n ap trete a se De Tab Habakouk yo, e nan pwen sa a, tout sa n ap fè se eseye demontre ke Ellen White te ann amoni ak verite ki reprezante sou Tablo 1843 sa a.
The first three presentations we concluded yesterday were showing that Ellen White clearly and specifically endorses the 2520 time prophecy as valid in Early Writings, page 236.
Twa premye prezantasyon nou te fini yè yo te montre ke Ellen White, klèman ak an patikilye, apwouve pwofesi tan 2520 la kòm valab nan Early Writings, paj 236.
When speaking of the first disappointment in March of 1844, she says that after the disappointment the Millerites continued to study the Bible, and they discovered that the same evidence that had led them to predict 1843 for the 2520, the 2300, and the 1335, that same evidence was then recognized in 1844, to prove that these prophetic periods ended in 1844. And we discussed how the only prophetic periods that she could be speaking of are these two [referring to the 2520 and the 2300 on the 1843 Chart], not the 1335. The 1335 started in the AD time period; it ended in 1843. Therefore, she is putting her endorsement upon the understanding of the 2520 and the 2300-year prophecy.
Lè l ap pale de premye desepsyon an nan mwa mas 1844, li di ke apre desepsyon an, Millerit yo te kontinye etidye Bib la, epi yo te dekouvri ke menm prèv ki te mennen yo predi 1843 pou 2520 la, 2300 la, ak 1335 la, se menm prèv sa a yo te rekonèt lè sa a nan 1844 pou pwouve ke peryòd pwofetik sa yo te fini an 1844. Epi nou te diskite kijan sèl peryòd pwofetik li ta ka ap pale de yo se de sa yo [an referans ak 2520 la ak 2300 la sou Tablo 1843 a], pa 1335 la. 1335 la te kòmanse nan peryòd tan apre Jezikri; li te fini an 1843. Se poutèt sa, li ap mete apwobasyon li sou konpreyansyon pwofesi 2520 la ak pwofesi 2300 ane a.
And then she went on further to say that during that time period, as they began to prove that three time prophecies ended in 1844, this is what caused the persecution that drove the Millerites out of the church. So, it is not a coincidence that here at the end of the world men and women are being persecuted in the Adventist Church for presenting the information for why the 2520 ended in 1844.
Apre sa, li te kontinye di ke pandan peryòd sa a, lè yo te kòmanse demontre ke twa pwofesi tan yo te fini an 1844, se sa menm ki te lakòz pèsekisyon an ki te chase Millerit yo deyò legliz la. Konsa, se pa yon konyensidans ke isit la, nan fen mond lan, gason ak fanm ap sibi pèsekisyon nan Legliz Advantis la poutèt yo prezante enfòmasyon ki montre poukisa 2520 la te fini an 1844.
Directed by the Hand of the Lord
Dirije pa Men Senyè a
So, now we are moving to another subject, this one right here [referring to AD508 on the 1843 Chart]. You will find, if you have not looked at these Charts, Sister White says of this 1843 Chart, "I saw that the Lord directed in this Chart," and she says of this 1850 Chart that God was in the publishment of this Chart. So, she has told us that God was involved in the production of both of these Charts, and how they are structured was humanly purposeful. The Millerites did it on purpose, but it was by God's design.
Kidonk, kounye a nou ap pase sou yon lòt sijè, sila a menm isit la [an referans ak AD508 sou Tablo 1843 la]. N ap jwenn, si nou poko gade Tablo sa yo, Sè White di konsènan Tablo 1843 sa a: “Mwen te wè ke Senyè a te dirije nan Tablo sa a,” epi li di konsènan Tablo 1850 sa a ke Bondye te nan piblikasyon Tablo sa a. Donk, li fè nou konnen ke Bondye te patisipe nan pwodiksyon toude Tablo sa yo, e fason yo te estriktire a te entansyonèl sou plan imen. Millerit yo te fè sa espre, men se te dapre plan Bondye.
Up here, from 677BC down to what they believed, AD1843, this is the column [referring to the second column right the left on the 1843 Chart] that defines the 2520, that begins in 677BC and they thought ended in AD1843.
Isit la a, depi 677 av. J.-K. rive jis nan sa yo te kwè, an 1843 apr. J.-K., se kolòn sa a [ki fè referans ak dezyèm kolòn adwat agoch sou Tablo 1843 la] ki defini 2520 la, ki kòmanse an 677 av. J.-K. e yo te panse li te fini an 1843 apr. J.-K.
And they retained this graphic illustration on the 1850 Chart, from here [referring to the third column from the left] 677BC to here, AD1844. This is the column of the 2520 that exists on both Charts.
Epi yo te konsève ilistrasyon grafik sa a sou Tablo 1850 la, depi isit la [an referans ak twazyèm kolòn apati bò gòch la] 677 av. J.-K. rive isit la, 1844 apr. J.-K. Sa a se kolòn 2520 la ki parèt sou toude Tablo yo.
And right in the middle of these columns is the cross, in both instances.
Epi se nan mitan menm kolòn sa yo kwa a ye, nan toude ka yo.
And right below the cross is the reference to the Daily. And the symbol of the Daily, Paganism, the root of the Pagan religion, is self-exaltation; and, this is where you can see the Lord's hand in it, not necessarily the human hand on both of these charts.
Epi jis anba kwa a se referans a sou Kontinyèl la. Epi senbòl Kontinyèl la, Paganis, rasin relijyon payen an, se pwòp tèt-yo leve anlè; epi se la nou kapab wè men Senyè a ladan l, pa nesesèman men lèzòm nan toude tablo sa yo.
For you and me, or anyone, to have our self-exaltation removed from us, we must come to the foot of the cross, reflected on both of these Charts. That lesson is illustrated.
Pou mwen menm ak ou, oswa nenpòt moun, pou pwòp egzaltasyon tèt nou wete nan men nou, fòk nou vini nan pye kwa a, jan sa reflete sou toude Tablo sa yo. Leson sa a ilistre.
And, of course, when we talk about the columns of the 2520 with the cross in the middle, we know that in fulfillment of Daniel 9, when Christ came to confirm the covenant with many for one week, that one week equates to 2520 days, and in the midst of that week He was crucified. So, in the middle of these columns on each of these Charts we see the cross, and these are inferring the 2520 days that Christ confirmed the covenant with many.
Epi, natirèlman, lè nou pale sou kolòn 2520 yo avèk kwa a nan mitan an, nou konnen ke, nan akonplisman Danyèl 9, lè Kris la te vini pou konfime alyans lan ak anpil moun pandan yon sèl semèn, yon sèl semèn sa a egal ak 2520 jou, epi nan mitan semèn sa a Yo te kloure Li sou kwa a. Konsa, nan mitan kolòn sa yo sou chak nan Tablo sa yo nou wè kwa a, e sa yo montre pa enplikasyon 2520 jou Kris la te konfime alyans lan ak anpil moun.
So, now we are going to take up the Daily and Ellen White's endorsement of it.
Se konsa, kounye a nou pral pran an konsiderasyon “Daily” a ansanm ak apwobasyon Ellen White te bay li.
"September 23, the Lord showed me that He had stretched out His hand the second time to recover the remnant of His people, and that efforts must be redoubled in this gathering time. In the scattering, Israel was smitten and torn, but now in the gathering time God will heal and bind up His people. In the scattering, efforts made to spread the truth had but little effect, accomplished but little or nothing; but in the gathering, when God has set His hand to gather His people, efforts to spread the truth will have their designed effect. All should be united and zealous in the work. I saw that it was wrong for any to refer to the scattering for examples to govern us now in the gathering; for if God should do no more for us now than He did then, Israel would never be gathered. I have seen that the 1843 chart was directed by the hand of the Lord, and that it should not be altered; that the figures were as He wanted them; that His hand was over and hid a mistake in some of the figures, so that none could see it, until His hand was removed.
23 septembre, le Seigneur m’a montré qu’Il avait étendu Sa main une seconde fois pour recouvrer le reste de Son peuple, et que les efforts devaient être redoublés en ce temps de rassemblement. Dans la dispersion, Israël a été frappé et déchiré, mais maintenant, au temps du rassemblement, Dieu guérira et bandera les plaies de Son peuple. Dans la dispersion, les efforts faits pour répandre la vérité n’eurent que peu d’effet, n’accomplirent que peu ou rien; mais dans le rassemblement, lorsque Dieu a mis la main à l’œuvre pour rassembler Son peuple, les efforts faits pour répandre la vérité produiront l’effet qu’ils doivent produire. Tous doivent être unis et zélés dans l’œuvre. J’ai vu qu’il était mauvais que quiconque se réfère à la dispersion pour y prendre des exemples destinés à nous gouverner maintenant dans le rassemblement; car si Dieu ne faisait pas davantage pour nous maintenant qu’Il ne fit alors, Israël ne serait jamais rassemblé. J’ai vu que le tableau de 1843 avait été dirigé par la main du Seigneur, et qu’il ne devait pas être modifié; que les chiffres étaient tels qu’Il les voulait; que Sa main était au-dessus de lui et cachait une erreur dans quelques-uns des chiffres, afin que personne ne pût la voir, jusqu’à ce que Sa main fût retirée.
"Then I saw in relation to the —daily' (Daniel 8:12) that the word —sacrifice' was supplied by man's wisdom, and does not belong to the text, and that the Lord gave the correct view of it to those who gave the judgment hour cry. When union existed, before 1844, nearly all were united on the correct view of the —daily'; but in the confusion since 1844, other views have been embraced, and darkness and confusion have followed. Time has not been a test since 1844, and it will never again be a test.
“Lè sa a, mwen wè konsènan —chak jou a’ (Danyèl 8:12) ke mo —sakrifis la’ se sajès lèzòm ki te mete l, e li pa fè pati tèks la, e Senyè a te bay moun ki te fè kri lè jijman an rive a bon konpreyansyon sou sa. Lè te gen inyon, anvan 1844, prèske tout moun te ini sou bon konpreyansyon konsènan —chak jou a’; men nan konfizyon ki te genyen depi 1844, lòt opinyon te aksepte, e fènwa ak konfizyon te swiv. Tan pa t yon eprèv depi 1844, e li p ap janm tounen yon eprèv ankò.”
"The Lord has shown me that the message of the third angel must go, and be proclaimed to the scattered children of the Lord, but it must not be hung on time. I saw that some were getting a false excitement, arising from preaching time; but the third angel's message is stronger than time can be. I saw that this message can stand on its own foundation and needs not time to strengthen it; and that it will go in mighty power, and do its work, and will be cut short in righteousness.
Senyè a te montre m ke mesaj twazyèm zanj lan dwe ale, e dwe pwoklame bay pitit Senyè a ki gaye yo; men li pa dwe pandye sou tan. Mwen te wè ke gen kèk moun ki t ap antre nan yon fo eksitasyon, ki leve soti nan predikasyon sou tan; men mesaj twazyèm zanj lan pi fò pase sa tan ka ye. Mwen te wè ke mesaj sa a ka kanpe sou pwòp fondasyon pa li epi li pa bezwen tan pou bay li fòs; e li pral avanse avèk gwo pisans, li pral fè travay li, epi li pral vin koupe kout nan jistis.
"Then I was pointed to some who are in the great error of believing that it is their duty to go to Old Jerusalem, and think they have a work to do there before the Lord comes. Such a view is calculated to take the mind and interest from the present work of the Lord, under the message of the third angel; for those who think that they are yet to go to Jerusalem will have their minds there, and their means will be withheld from the cause of present truth to get themselves and others there. I saw that such a mission would accomplish no real good, that it would take a long while to make a very few of the Jews believe even in the first advent of Christ, much more to believe in His second advent. I saw that Satan had greatly deceived some in this thing and that souls all around them in this land could be helped by them and led to keep the commandments of God, but they were leaving them to perish. I also saw that Old Jerusalem never would be built up; and that Satan was doing his utmost to lead the minds of the children of the Lord into these things now, in the gathering time, to keep them from throwing their whole interest into the present work of the Lord, and to cause them to neglect the necessary preparation for the day of the Lord." Early Writings, 74–76.
“Lè sa a, yo te atire atansyon m sou kèk moun ki nan gwo erè lè yo kwè se devwa yo pou yo ale nan ansyen Jerizalèm, epi yo panse yo gen yon travay pou yo fè la anvan Seyè a vini. Yon opinyon konsa fèt pou detounen lespri ak enterè moun de travay prezan Seyè a anba mesaj twazyèm zanj lan; paske moun ki panse yo gen pou yo ale Jerizalèm toujou ap gen lespri yo fikse la, epi y ap kenbe mwayen yo lwen kòz verite prezan an pou yo mennen tèt yo ansanm ak lòt moun la. Mwen te wè ke yon misyon konsa pa t ap reyalize okenn byen reyèl, ke li t ap pran anpil tan pou fè yon ti kantite Jwif kwè menm nan premye avènman Kris la, e plis ankò pou yo kwè nan dezyèm avènman Li. Mwen te wè ke Satan te twonpe kèk moun anpil nan bagay sa a, e ke toutotou yo nan peyi sa a te gen nanm ki ta ka resevwa èd nan men yo epi yo ta ka mennen yo pou yo kenbe kòmandman Bondye yo, men yo t ap kite yo peri. Mwen te wè tou ke ansyen Jerizalèm pa t ap janm rebati; e ke Satan t ap fè tout efò li pou mennen lespri pitit Seyè a sou bagay sa yo kounye a, nan tan rasanbleman an, pou anpeche yo mete tout enterè yo nan travay prezan Seyè a, epi pou fè yo neglije preparasyon nesesè pou jou Seyè a.” Early Writings, 74–76.
A few things that we are going to show is we have a passage from Early Writings, page 74. We have dealt with this before. Many of these things we will be dealing with in this presentation, we have dealt with before; but, most of us do not understand that this passage in Early Writings went through an evolution. As it exists in the book Early Writings, men will use what is in Early Writings to misrepresent the truth. But, if you go back to the original source documents, the logic for their misrepresenting the truth is removed.
Kèk bagay nou pral montre se ke nou genyen yon pasaj nan Early Writings, paj 74. Nou te deja trete sa anvan. Anpil nan bagay sa yo nou pral trete nan prezantasyon sa a, nou te deja trete yo anvan; men, pifò nan nou pa konprann ke pasaj sa a nan Early Writings te pase atravè yon evolisyon. Jan li parèt nan liv Early Writings la, gen moun ki pral sèvi ak sa ki nan Early Writings pou defòme laverite. Men, si nou retounen nan dokiman sous orijinal yo, lojik yo itilize pou yo defòme laverite a disparèt.
So, there is much that can be said about this. I am only going to identify a couple of points, because we are dealing with the Daily here. But, in this passage from Early Writings, I would have you take note of the very first two thoughts, September 23rd.
Donk, gen anpil bagay ki ka di sou sa. Mwen pral sèlman idantifye kèk pwen, paske se ak Sakrifis Kontinyèl la nou ap trete isit la. Men, nan pasaj sa a ki soti nan *Early Writings*, mwen ta vle nou pran nòt de de premye panse yo menm, 23 Septanm.
Okay. September 23rd, if you are not familiar with it, you can put 1850 there; September 23, 1850. This has an impact on correctly understanding the Daily.
Dakò. 23 septanm, si nou pa abitye avèk sa, nou ka mete 1850 la; 23 septanm 1850. Sa gen yon enpak sou fason nou konprann “Daily” a kòrèkteman.
The end of the first paragraph is a statement that we have dealt with here already for the past few days, "I have seen that the 1843 chart was directed by the hand of the Lord, and that it should not be altered; that the figures were as He wanted them; that His hand was over and hid a mistake in some of the figures, so that none could see it until His hand was removed."
Fen premye paragraf la se yon deklarasyon nou deja trete isit la pandan kèk jou ki sot pase yo: “Mwen wè tablo 1843 la te dirije pa men Senyè a, e yo pa t dwe chanje li; chif yo te jan Li te vle yo; men Li te sou li epi Li te kache yon erè nan kèk nan chif yo, pou pèsonn pa t ka wè li jiskaske men Li te retire.”
The second paragraph says, "Then I saw in relation to the —daily' (Daniel 8:12) . . . ." Now, I want you to just put in your memory bank—we will deal with this no doubt later, the Lord willing—when the Daily is represented on the 1843 Chart, right here, it says, "taking away the daily"; it says, "Daniel 12: 11 and 12." On the 1850 Chart, when it is dealing with the Daily, it says, "pagan dominion or when the daily taken away, Daniel 11:31." So, on these two Charts, the emphasis that they are identifying from Daniel 11:31 and Daniel 12:11 is the taking away of the Daily. All right?
Dezyèm paragraf la di: « Lè sa a, mwen te wè anrapò ak “kontinyèl” la (Danyèl 8:12) . . . . » Kounye a, mwen vle nou senpleman mete sa nan rezèv memwa nou—nou pral pale sou sa pita san dout, si Seyè a vle—lè yo reprezante Kontinyèl la sou Tablo 1843 a, isit la menm, li di: « retire kontinyèl la »; li di: « Danyèl 12:11 ak 12. » Sou Tablo 1850 a, lè l ap trete Kontinyèl la, li di: « dominasyon payen, oswa lè yo retire kontinyèl la, Danyèl 11:31. » Konsa, sou de Tablo sa yo, anfaz yo idantifye soti nan Danyèl 11:31 ak Danyèl 12:11 se retire Kontinyèl la. Dakò?
And in Daniel 11:31 and Daniel 12:11, the Hebrew word that is translated as "take away" is sur, and it means "to take away"; it means "to remove."
Epi nan Danyèl 11:31 ak Danyèl 12:11, mo ebre ki tradui kòm « retire » a se sur, e li vle di « pran ale »; li vle di « retire ».
But, in Daniel 8, in verse 11, where it says the Daily is taken away, it is a different Hebrew word. It is rum, and it means "to lift up and to exalt."
Men, nan Danyèl 8, nan vèsè 11, kote li di yo retire Kontinyèl la, se yon lòt mo ebre. Se rum, e li vle di “leve anlè epi egzalte.”
So, William Miller used the Cruden's Concordance, and the Cruden's Concordance does not give you any insight on the Hebrew or the Greek. So, the Lord was directing the Millerites; because, of the three places where the Daily is referenced in the Book of Daniel, Daniel chapter 8, Daniel chapter 11, and Daniel chapter 12, in chapters 11 and 12 the Hebrew that is translated "take away" means "take away." And that is what they are emphasizing on these Charts, is when Paganism was taken away the 1290 and the 1335 prophecies would begin.
Donk, William Miller te sèvi ak *Cruden’s Concordance*, e *Cruden’s Concordance* pa ba ou okenn limyè sou lang ebre a oswa lang grèk la. Konsa, Senyè a t ap dirije Millerit yo; paske, nan twa kote yo fè referans ak “Daily” a nan Liv Danyèl la—Danyèl chapit 8, Danyèl chapit 11, ak Danyèl chapit 12—nan chapit 11 ak 12, mo ebre yo tradui pa “take away” la vle di “retire.” E se sa menm y ap mete anfas sou Tablo sa yo: lè yo te retire Paganis la, pwofesi 1290 ak 1335 yo t ap kòmanse.
But, in Daniel 8, when the Daily is taken away, it is not talking about being removed; it is talking about the religion of Paganism being lifted up and exalted. So, the Millerites got it right. They referenced the two chapters in Daniel that are about the Daily being taken away.
Men, nan Dànyèl 8, lè yo wete Sakrifis Kontinyèl la, sa pa pale de retire l; sa pale de relijyon Paganis la k ap leve anlè epi yo egzalte l. Konsa, Millerit yo te gen rezon. Yo te fè referans ak de chapit ki nan Dànyèl ki pale sou Sakrifis Kontinyèl la yo wete.
But here in Early Writings and as we go back through the original source documents you are going to see in this chapter that originally this reference of Daniel 8:12 is not there. I do not know that Ellen White told them to include that in there in 1882 when they printed Early Writings, or if one of the editors put it in. I am not threatened by it, because it is not talking about the taking away here.
Men, isit la nan *Early Writings*, epi pandan n ap retounen atravè dokiman sous orijinal yo, nou pral wè nan chapit sa a ke okòmansman referans sa a nan Danyèl 8:12 pa t la. Mwen pa konnen si Ellen White te di yo mete sa ladan l an 1882 lè yo te enprime *Early Writings*, oswa si youn nan editè yo te mete l. Sa pa menase m, paske isit la sa pa ap pale de retrè a.
It says in the second paragraph, "Then I saw in relation to the —daily' (Daniel 8:12) that the word —sacrifice' was supplied by man's wisdom, and does not belong to the text, and that the Lord gave the correct view of it to those who gave the judgment hour cry."
Li di nan dezyèm paragraf la: “Apre sa, mwen te wè konsènan —kontinyèl’ la (Danyèl 8:12), ke mo —sakrifis’ la te ajoute pa sajès lèzòm, e li pa fè pati tèks la, e ke Senyè a te bay bon konpreyansyon sou li a sila yo ki te bay kri lè jijman an.”
Now, we had a meeting with some of the prominent pastors in Germany and some of the seminary teachers from Germany several years ago, in Germany, where I presented and they threw their stones at this message.
Kounye a, sa gen plizyè ane, nou te gen yon reyinyon ann Almay avèk kèk nan pastè enpòtan yo ak kèk nan pwofesè seminè yo ki soti ann Almay, kote mwen te prezante, epi yo te voye wòch pa yo sou mesaj sa a.
And there was a pastor there from Italy, and he expressed one of the foolish arguments about this verse. And what he said was—and there are several foolish arguments about the Daily, so you find this foolish argument used often and we will put it in the record here. It says, "Then I saw in relation to the —daily' (Daniel 8:12) that the word —sacrifice' was supplied by man's wisdom, and does not belong to the text, and that the Lord gave the correct view of it to those who gave the judgment hour cry." Here is the foolish argument: They say Ellen White is not endorsing the Daily here; she is endorsing the Pioneer understanding that the word sacrifice was added by human wisdom and does not belong to the text. Okay? So, this Italian pastor is making this argument.
Epi te gen yon pastè la ki te soti Itali, e li te eksprime youn nan agiman sòt yo konsènan vèsè sa a. E sa li te di a se te—epi gen plizyè agiman sòt sou “kontinyèl” la, konsa nou jwenn agiman sòt sa a souvan, e nou pral mete l nan dosye a isit la. Li di: “Lè sa a, mwen te wè konsènan ‘kontinyèl’ la (Danyèl 8:12) ke mo ‘sakrifis’ la te ajoute pa sajès lèzòm, e li pa fè pati tèks la, e ke Senyè a te bay bon konpreyansyon sou sa a bay moun ki te bay kri lè jijman an.” Men agiman sòt la: Yo di Ellen White pa ap andose “kontinyèl” la isit la; li ap andose konpreyansyon Pyonye yo selon ki mo sakrifis la te ajoute pa sajès imen e li pa fè pati tèks la. Dakò? Konsa, pastè italyen sa a ap fè agiman sa a.
And I said, "Well, explain the next sentence to me, Pastor."
Epi mwen di: «Bon, eksplike m pwochen fraz la, Pastè.»
The next sentence says, "When union existed, before 1844, nearly all were united on the correct view of the —daily'; . . . ." This is not about the correct view of the word sacrifice being added by human wisdom. Ellen White here—and this is a hard one, this is a hard one for these people that are refusing to hear and are refusing to see in Adventism today. This paragraph, there are probably more theologians have lost their salvation over this paragraph than any other paragraph in the Spirit of Prophecy. I am not exaggerating; I think that is probably accurate.
Pwochen fraz la di: “Lè inyon te egziste, anvan 1844, prèske tout moun te ini sou bon konpreyansyon konsènan —daily’ a; . . . .” Sa pa pale de bon konpreyansyon selon ki mo sacrifice la te ajoute pa sajès imen. Ellen White isit la—epi sa a se yon pwen difisil, se yon pwen difisil pou moun sa yo k ap refize tande epi k ap refize wè nan Advantis jodi a. Paragraf sa a, petèt gen plis teyolojyen ki pèdi delivrans yo poutèt paragraf sa a pase nenpòt lòt paragraf nan Lespri Pwofesi a. Mwen pa egzajere; mwen panse sa pwobableman egzak.
In the early part of the 20th Century when the false view of the Daily is being introduced into Adventism, everyone that was fighting about it on both sides of the issue knew that they were fighting about this paragraph. When Stephen Haskell came to the defense of the Pioneer view that the Daily was Paganism, what did he do? He reprinted this 1843 Chart, and he put this paragraph on the bottom. So this paragraph is the focus of controversy, and it is here where many, many men have fallen on their swords and died.
Nan kòmansman 20yèm syèk la, lè yo t ap entwodui fo opinyon sou “Daily” a nan Advantis, tout moun ki t ap goumen sou kestyon sa a, sou toude bò yo, te konnen se sou paragraf sa a yo t ap goumen. Lè Stephen Haskell te vin pran defans pozisyon Pyonye yo, ki te fè konnen “Daily” a se te Paganis, kisa li te fè? Li te reimprime Tablo 1843 sa a, epi li te mete paragraf sa a anba li. Se poutèt sa, paragraf sa a se sant konfli a, e se isit la anpil, anpil gason tonbe sou pwòp nepe yo epi yo mouri.
So, at a minimum level of what I want you to see here, because you have men like recently, Steve Wohlberg of White Horse Ministries, he has been opposing this message. And one of his arguments is, "Well, Ellen White never had a position on the Daily, so I don't have to have one," which was just an absolutely foolish position. But, even if we grant him the possibility that Ellen White did not have a position on it, what does she say in this quote? She says that the Pioneers had the correct view of it. Even if she did not know what it was, here she is saying that there is a correct view, which means there are a wrong view, maybe several wrong views.
Kidonk, nan nivo ki pi ba omwen nan sa m vle nou wè isit la, paske nou gen moun tankou dènyèman, Steve Wohlberg nan White Horse Ministries, ki te opoze mesaj sa a. E youn nan agiman li yo se: “Bon, Ellen White pa t janm gen yon pozisyon sou Daily a, kidonk mwen pa oblije genyen youn,” sa ki te senpleman yon pozisyon absoliman san sajès. Men, menm si nou ta ba li posibilite a ke Ellen White pa t gen yon pozisyon sou sa, kisa li di nan sitasyon sa a? Li di ke Pyonye yo te gen bon konpreyansyon sou li. Menm si li pa t konnen ki sa li te ye, men li menm isit la ap di ke gen yon bon konpreyansyon, sa ki vle di gen yon move konpreyansyon, petèt plizyè move konpreyansyon.
You have men like Vance Ferrell. Vance Ferrell; people have confidence in Vance Ferrell's prophetic interpretations, and I do not know why. Vance Ferrell is not the only one but he is one of the men that says that the Daily represents both Paganism and Christ's Sanctuary ministry. Okay? He is saying that this symbol represents Satan and Christ.
Nou gen moun tankou Vance Ferrell. Vance Ferrell; moun yo mete konfyans yo nan entèpretasyon pwofetik Vance Ferrell yo, e mwen pa konnen poukisa. Vance Ferrell pa sèl moun nan, men li se youn nan mesye ki di ke “Daily” a reprezante ni Pèganis ni ministè Kris la nan Tanp Sanktyè a. Dakò? Li ap di ke senbòl sa a reprezante ni Satan ni Kris.
What kind of discernment is being employed with that kind of reasoning?
Ki kalite disènman y ap sèvi ak li nan yon rezònman konsa?
Okay, Sister White, no matter what the Daily represents here, she says there is a correct view. So, we can at least agree with that premise here, right?
Dakò, Sè White, kèlkeswa sa “Toujou a” reprezante isit la, li di gen yon konpreyansyon ki kòrèk. Donk, nou ka omwen dakò ak prensip sa a isit la, pa vre?
"Then I saw in relation to the —daily' (Daniel 8:12) that the word —sacrifice' was supplied by man's wisdom, and does not belong to the text, and that the Lord gave the correct view of it to those who gave the judgment hour cry. When union exited, before 1844, nearly all were united on the correct view of the —daily'; but in the confusion since 1844, other views have been embraced,"—
"Lè sa a mwen wè konsènan —sakrifis chak jou a' (Danyèl 8:12) ke mo —sakrifis' la te ajoute pa sajès lèzòm, e li pa fè pati tèks la, epi ke Senyè a te bay bon konpreyansyon sou sa a moun ki te bay kri lè jijman an rive. Lè inyon an te egziste, anvan 1844, prèske tout moun te ini sou bon konpreyansyon de —sakrifis chak jou a'; men nan konfizyon ki genyen depi 1844, yo te adopte lòt opinyon,"
This is what I told the Italian pastor. I said, "Okay. Can you give me any historical references where after 1844 there were other views about the word sacrifice that have been embraced?
Men sa m te di pastè italyen an. Mwen te di: “Dakò. Èske ou ka ban mwen nenpòt referans istorik ki montre ke apre 1844 te gen lòt opinyon konsènan mo sakrifis la ki te aksepte?”
And he kind of backed out of that at this point.
Epi li te retounen sou sa yon jan nan pwen sa a.
Since 1844 other views of the Daily have been embraced, and what have they produced? Darkness and confusion.
Depi 1844, yo te adopte lòt opinyon sou Sakrifis Kontinyèl la, e ki sa yo pwodui? Fènwa ak konfizyon.
Underline "darkness and confusion," because when Sister White further talks about the Daily, she talks about darkness and confusion, and we are going to show you some of those this morning.
Souliye “fènwa ak konfizyon,” paske lè Sè White pale pi lwen sou Sakrifis Chak Jou a, li pale sou fènwa ak konfizyon, epi nou pral montre nou kèk nan bagay sa yo maten an.
Take the wrong view of the Daily and it produces darkness and confusion.
Adopte yon move konpreyansyon sou Sakrifis Toupandan an, epi sa pwodui tenèb ak konfizyon.
"Time has not been a test since 1844, and it will never again be a test."
“Depi 1844, tan pa t yon tès, e li pap janm tounen yon tès ankò.”
So, in connection with the Daily you see here, here is the argument. Here is the argument today; here is the argument that was introduced by Ellen White's son. It was introduced by others, but he is the one that put it into the historical record of Adventism. It is that when you read this passage, the context of time setting is what you need to understand.
Kidonk, an rapò ak “Daily” ou wè la a, men agiman an. Men agiman jodi a; men agiman pitit gason Ellen White la te entwodui. Lòt moun te prezante l tou, men se li menm ki te mete l nan dosye istorik Advantis la. Sa vle di lè w ap li pasaj sa a, se kontèks fikse tan an ou bezwen konprann.
—"other views have been embraced,"—in concerning the Daily—"and darkness and confusion have followed. Time has not been a test since 1844, and it will never again be a test.
—«Lòt opinyon yo te anbrase,»—konsènan Sakrifis Kontinyèl la—«epi fènwa ak konfizyon te swiv. Tan pa t yon tès depi 1844, e li p ap janm tounen yon tès ankò.»
"The Lord has shown me that the message of the third angel must go, and be proclaimed to the scattered children of the Lord, but it must not be hung on time."
“Senyè a fè m wè ke mesaj twazyèm zanj lan dwe ale, epi yo dwe pwoklame li bay timoun Senyè a ki gaye yo, men li pa dwe mare ak tan.”
Do you see why Willy White is saying that we need to see the context of time-setting?
Èske ou wè poukisa Willy White ap di nou bezwen wè kontèks fikse tan an?
It talks about the confusion that the wrong views of the Daily produced, time has not been a test; and then there is a paragraph about time setting.
Li pale de konfizyon move opinyon sou Sèvis Kontinyèl la te pwodui; tan pa t yon tès; epi apre sa gen yon paragraf sou fikse tan.
Okay, this is what you have to understand: This paragraph about time setting, it was not in the original source document; and, the statement about time has not been a test, that sentence has been altered. It misrepresents Ellen White's original thought. She did not connect anything about time setting with the Daily. This is what we want to look at this morning.
Dakò, men sa nou dwe konprann: Paragraf sa a konsènan fikse tan an pa t nan dokiman sous orijinal la; epi deklarasyon ki di kesyon tan an pa t yon tès la, fraz sa a te modifye. Li mal prezante panse orijinal Ellen White la. Li pa t fè okenn koneksyon ant okenn bagay konsènan fikse tan an ak “Daily” la. Se sa nou vle egzamine maten an.
So, as I said, we are not going to read all these pages. I am just going to make sure that you have them in your possession so you can test what I am saying; because, as a human being, there is a possibility that I am misleading you.
Kidonk, jan mwen te di sa, nou pa pral li tout paj sa yo. Mwen sèlman pral asire m ke nou genyen yo an posesyon nou pou nou ka verifye sa m ap di a; paske, antanke yon èt imen, gen posibilite pou m ap twonpe nou.
Arthur White—"The Context of Time Setting"
Arthur White — « Kontèks Fiksasyon Tan an »
"The advocates of the old view maintained that the wording of this statement [Early Writings, 74–75.] placed Heaven's endorsement on the view of the daily held by Miller and eventually repeated by Uriah Smith.
Defansè ansyen opinyon an te soutni ke fason deklarasyon sa a te ekri a [Early Writings, 74–75.] te mete apwobasyon Syèl la sou opinyon konsènan “kontinyèl” la jan Miller te kenbe l la epi jan Uriah Smith te repete l pita.
Arthur White, the son of Willy White, in his six-volume set about the history of Ellen White, speaking of his father's position rejecting the correct view of the Daily, he says, in EGW, volume 6, on page 252,
Arthur White, pitit gason Willy White, nan seri sis volim li a sou istwa Ellen White, lè l ap pale sou pozisyon papa li ki te rejte bon konpreyansyon sou Kontinyèl la, li di, nan EGW, volim 6, nan paj 252,
"The advocates of the old view"—that the Daily represented Paganism—"maintained that the wording of this statement [Early Writings, 74–75.] placed Heaven's endorsement on the view of the daily held by Miller and eventually repeated by Uriah Smith."—
« Moun ki t ap defann ansyen opinyon an »—ki te di ke « Daily » a te reprezante Paganis la—« te soutni ke fason deklarasyon sa a te ekri a [Early Writings, 74–75.] te mete apwobasyon Syèl la sou opinyon Miller te genyen konsènan “daily” a, e Uriah Smith te repete l pita. »
If Arthur White was going to be a genuine, accurate historian, do you know what he would have said there? He would have just put one word in there; but, Arthur White, he missed the boat here. He would have said, "The advocates of the old view maintained [correctly] that the wording of this statement, —maintained that the wording of this statement [Early Writings, 74-75.],' placed Heaven's endorsement on the view of the daily held by Miller and eventually repeated by Uriah Smith."
Si Arthur White te pral yon istoryen otantik e egzak, èske nou konnen kisa li ta dwe di la a? Li ta senpleman mete yon sèl mo ladan l; men Arthur White, isit la li te rate okazyon an. Li ta di konsa: “Defansè ansyen opinyon an te soutni [kòrèkteman] ke pawòl deklarasyon sa a, —te soutni ke pawòl deklarasyon sa a [Early Writings, 74-75.], te mete apwobasyon Syèl la sou opinyon konsènan ‘daily’ a jan Miller te kenbe l e Uriah Smith te repete pita.”
But he does not put correctly in there. He is just saying what they maintain, like there is the possibility that they were maintaining a wrong position. But they were not; they had the right position.
Men li pa mete sa kòrèkteman ladan. Li sèlman ap di sa yo soutni, tankou si te gen posiblite pou yo t ap soutni yon pozisyon ki pa t kòrèk. Men se pa t sa; yo te gen bon pozisyon an.
—"The new-view advocates"—his father, Willy, A. G. Daniells, W. W. Prescott, and I will not go there right now—"The new-view advocates held that the statement must be taken in its context—the context of time setting."—
—« Défenseurs de la nouvelle perspective »— son père, Willy, A. G. Daniells, W. W. Prescott, et je n’aborderai pas cela maintenant — « les défenseurs de la nouvelle perspective soutenaient que la déclaration devait être comprise dans son contexte — le contexte de la fixation du temps. »
We just told you their argument in Early Writings, page 74.
Nou fèk di nou agiman yo nan Early Writings, paj 74.
—"The new-view advocates held that the statement must be taken in its context—the context of time setting. Ellen White's repeated statements that I have no light on the point' (Letter 226, 1908) and I am unable to define clearly the points that are questioned' (Letter 250, 1908), and her inability to make a definite statement when the question was urged upon her, seemed to give support to their conclusion. They were confident also that the messages given through Ellen White would not conflict with the clearly established events of history." Arthur White, EGW, volume 6, 252.
—Moun ki t ap defann nouvèl opinyon an te kenbe pozisyon ke deklarasyon an dwe pran nan kontèks li a—kontèks fikse tan an. Deklarasyon Ellen White te repete yo, ki di: “Mwen pa gen okenn limyè sou pwen an” (Letter 226, 1908) ak “Mwen pa kapab defini aklè pwen yo k ap poze kestyon yo” (Letter 250, 1908), ansanm ak enkapasite li pou fè yon deklarasyon byen presi lè kestyon an te fòse sou li, te sanble bay sipò pou konklizyon yo a. Yo te gen konviksyon tou ke mesaj yo te bay atravè Ellen White yo pa t ap ann akò avèk evènman istwa yo ki te deja etabli aklè. Arthur White, EGW, volume 6, 252.
The Original Version—Review and Herald, November 1, 1850
Vèsyon Orijinal la—Review and Herald, 1ye novanm 1850
And Early Writings, page 74, when was it printed? 1882; the book Early Writings was printed in 1882.
Epi Early Writings, paj 74, kilè li te enprime? An 1882; liv Early Writings la te enprime an 1882.
But where in the passage of Early Writings that we are considering is originally found is in the Review and Herald, November 1, 1850, and you have that in your notes. And it is several paragraphs, and as I have said, we are not going to read them all.
Men, kote pasaj ki nan *Early Writings* n ap konsidere a te parèt okòmansman, se nan *Review and Herald*, 1ye novanm 1850, epi nou genyen sa nan nòt nou yo. Epi li gen plizyè paragraf, e jan mwen te di a, nou pa pral li yo tout.
We see four paragraphs on page 2, then four paragraphs on page 3:
Nou wè kat paragraf nan paj 2, apre sa kat paragraf nan paj 3:
"Dear Brethren and Sisters I wish to give you a short sketch of what the Lord has recently shown to me in vision. I was shown the loveliness of Jesus, and the love that the angels have for one another. Said the angel—Can ye not behold their love?—follow it. Just so God's people must love one another. Rather let blame fall on thyself than on a brother. I saw that the message —sell that ye have and give alms' had not been given, by some, in its clear light; that the true object of the words of our Saviour had not been clearly presented. I saw that the object of selling was not to give to those who are able to labor and support themselves; but to spread the truth. It is a sin to support and indulge those who are able to labor, in idleness. Some have been zealous to attend all the meetings; not to glorify God, but for the —loaves and fishes.' Such had much better been at home laboring with their hands, —the thing that is good,' to supply the wants of their families, and to have something to give to sustain the precious cause of present truth.
“Byeneme Frè ak Sè m yo, mwen vle ba nou yon ti rale sou sa Senyè a fèk montre m nan vizyon. Yo te montre m bèlte Jezi, ak lanmou zanj yo genyen youn pou lòt. Zanj lan di: —Èske nou pa ka wè lanmou yo?— swiv li. Menm jan an tou, pèp Bondye a dwe renmen youn lòt. Pito se sou tèt pa w pou repwòch la tonbe pase sou yon frè. Mwen te wè ke mesaj la —vann sa nou genyen epi bay lachari’ pa t prezante, pa kèk moun, nan klète li; ke vrè objektif pawòl Sovè nou an pa t prezante aklè. Mwen te wè ke objektif vann lan pa t pou bay sila yo ki kapab travay epi soutni tèt yo; men pou gaye verite a. Se peche pou soutni epi ankouraje nan parès sila yo ki kapab travay. Gen kèk ki te cho pou asiste tout reyinyon yo; pa pou glorifye Bondye, men poutèt —pen ak pwason yo.’ Sila yo ta pi bon anpil si yo te lakay yo ap travay ak men yo, —sa ki bon an,’ pou satisfè bezwen fanmi yo, epi pou yo gen kichòy pou bay pou soutni chèz kòz verite prezan an.”
"Some, I saw, had erred in praying for the sick to be healed before unbelievers. If any among us are sick, and call for the elders of the church to pray over them, according to James 5:14, 15, we should follow the example of Jesus. He put unbelievers out of the room, then healed the sick; so we should seek to be separated from the unbelief of those who have not faith, when we pray for the sick among us.
Kèk moun, mwen te wè, te fè erè lè yo t ap priye pou malad yo geri devan moun ki pa kwè. Si gen kèk nan mitan nou ki malad, epi yo rele ansyen legliz la pou yo priye sou yo, dapre Jak 5:14, 15, nou dwe suiv egzanp Jezi. Li te fè moun ki pa t kwè yo soti nan chanm nan, apre sa li te geri malad la; konsa, nou menm tou, lè n ap priye pou malad ki nan mitan nou yo, nou dwe chèche separe tèt nou ak enkredilite moun ki pa gen lafwa yo.
"Then I was pointed back to the time that Jesus took his disciples away alone, into an upper room, and first washed their feet, and then gave them to eat of the broken bread, to represent his broken body, and juice of the vine to represent his spilled blood. I saw that all should move understandingly, and follow the example of Jesus in these things, and when attending to these ordinances, should be as separate from unbelievers as possible.
“Lè sa a, yo te fè m retounen sou tan lè Jezi te mennen disip li yo apa, pou kont yo, nan yon chanm anwo; epi li te premye lave pye yo, apre sa li te ba yo manje nan pen ki te kase a, pou reprezante kò li ki te kraze a, ak ji rezen an pou reprezante san li ki te koule a. Mwen te wè ke tout moun ta dwe aji avèk konpreyansyon, epi suiv egzanp Jezi nan bagay sa yo; epi lè y ap obsève òdonans sa yo, yo ta dwe rete, otank posib, separe ak moun ki pa kwè yo.”
"Then I was shown that the seven last plagues will be poured out, after Jesus leaves the Sanctuary. Said the angel—It is the wrath of God and the Lamb that causes the destruction or death of the wicked. At the voice of God the saints will be mighty and terrible as an army with banners; but they will not then execute the judgment written. The execution of the judgment will be at the close of the 1000 years.
“Lè sa a, yo te montre m ke sèt dènye flewo yo pral vide apre Jezi fin kite Tanp lan. Zanj lan di—se kòlè Bondye ak Ti Mouton an ki lakòz destriksyon oswa lanmò mechan yo. Lè vwa Bondye a sonnen, sen yo pral pisan e redoutab tankou yon lame ak banyè li yo; men, lè sa a, yo p ap egzekite jijman ki ekri a. Egzekisyon jijman an pral fèt nan fen 1000 ane yo.”
"After the saints are changed to immortality, and are caught up together, and receive their harps, crowns, &c., and enter the Holy City, Jesus and the saints set in judgment. The books are opened, the book of life and the book of death; the book of life contains the good deeds of the saints, and the book of death contains the evil deeds of the wicked. These books were compared with the Statute book, the Bible, and according to that they were judged. The saints in unison with Jesus pass their judgment upon the wicked dead. Behold ye! said the angel, the saints sit in judgment, in unison with Jesus, and mete out to each of the wicked, according to the deeds done in the body, and it is set off against their names what they must receive, at the execution of the judgment. This, I saw, was the work of the saints with Jesus, in the Holy City before it descends to the earth, through the 1000 years. Then at the close of the 1000 years, Jesus, and the angels, and all the saints with him, leaves the Holy City, and while he is descending to the earth with them, the wicked dead are raised, and then the very men that —pierced him,' being raised, will see him afar off in all his glory, the angels and saints with him, and will wail because of him. They will see the prints of the nails in his hands, and in his feet, and where they thrust the spear into his side. The prints of the nails and the spear will then be his glory. It is at the close of the 1000 years that Jesus stands upon the Mount of Olives, and the Mount parts asunder, and it becomes a mighty plain, and those who flee at that time are the wicked, that have just been raised. Then the Holy City comes down and settles on the plain.
Apre sen yo fin chanje pou yo vin imòtèl, epi yo tout leve ansanm nan lè a, epi yo resevwa gita yo, kouwòn yo, elatriye, epi yo antre nan Vil Sen an, Jezi ak sen yo chita pou jijman. Liv yo louvri, liv lavi a ak liv lanmò a; liv lavi a gen bon zèv sen yo, epi liv lanmò a gen move zèv mechan yo. Yo te konpare liv sa yo ak liv Lalwa a, Bib la, epi se dapre sa yo te jije yo. Sen yo, an inyon ak Jezi, pwononse jijman yo sou mechan mò yo. Men gade! zanj lan di, sen yo chita pou jijman, an inyon ak Jezi, epi yo mezire pou chak nan mechan yo sa yo dwe resevwa, dapre zèv yo te fè nan kò a; epi yo make bò kote non yo sa yo dwe resevwa lè jijman an va egzekite. Sa a, mwen te wè, se te travay sen yo ak Jezi, nan Vil Sen an, anvan li desann sou tè a, pandan 1000 ane yo. Apre sa, nan fen 1000 ane yo, Jezi, zanj yo, ak tout sen yo avèk li, kite Vil Sen an; epi pandan l ap desann sou tè a avèk yo, mechan mò yo leve ankò; epi lè sa a menm moun sa yo ki te “pèse li” yo, lè yo leve, yo pral wè l byen lwen nan tout glwa li, avèk zanj yo ak sen yo ansanm avè l, epi yo pral plenn poutèt li. Yo pral wè mak klou yo nan men li ak nan pye li, epi kote yo te pouse lans lan nan bò kote li. Mak klou yo ak lans lan pral, lè sa a, glwa li. Se nan fen 1000 ane yo Jezi kanpe sou Mòn Oliv la, epi mòn nan fann an de, epi li tounen yon gran plenn; epi moun ki kouri nan moman sa a se mechan yo, ki fèk leve. Apre sa Vil Sen an desann epi li poze sou plenn nan.
"Then Satan imbues the wicked, that have been raised, with his spirit. He flatters them that the army in the City is small, and that his army is large, and that they can overcome the saints and take the City. While Satan was rallying his army, the saints were in the City, beholding the beauty and glory of the Paradise of God. Jesus was at their head, leading them. All at once the lovely Saviour was gone from our company; but soon we heard his lovely voice, saying, —Come ye blessed of my Father inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.' We gathered about Jesus, and just as he closed the gates of the City, the curse was pronounced upon the wicked. The gates were shut. Then the saints used their wings and mounted to the top of the wall of the City. Jesus was also with them; his crown looked brilliant and glorious. It was a crown within a crown, seven in number. The crowns of the saints were of the most pure gold, decked with stars. Their faces shone with glory, for they were in the express image of Jesus; and as they arose, and moved all together to the top of the City, I was enraptured with the sight.
Apre sa, Satan ranpli mechan yo, ki te leve ankò, avèk pwòp lespri pa li. Li fè yo kwè lame ki nan Vil la piti, e ke lame pa li a gwo, e ke yo kapab venk sen yo epi pran Vil la. Pandan Satan t ap rasanble lame li a, sen yo te andedan Vil la, ap gade bote ak laglwa Paradi Bondye a. Jezi te devan yo, ap mennen yo. Menm lè a, bèl Sovè a te disparèt nan mitan nou; men tousuit nou tande bèl vwa li, ki t ap di: —Vini, nou menm ki beni pa Papa m, eritye wayòm ki te prepare pou nou depi fondasyon mond lan. Nou te rasanble bò kote Jezi, epi menm jan li te fèmen pòtay Vil la, madichon an te pwononse sou mechan yo. Pòtay yo te fèmen. Lè sa a, sen yo te sèvi ak zèl yo epi yo te monte sou tèt miray Vil la. Jezi te la tou avèk yo; kouwòn li te parèt briyan ak gloriye. Se te yon kouwòn anndan yon kouwòn, yo te sèt an tout. Kouwòn sen yo te fèt ak lò ki pi pwòp la, dekore avèk zetwal. Figi yo te klere avèk laglwa, paske yo te nan menm pòtre egzak Jezi; epi pandan yo t ap monte, e yo t ap deplase tout ansanm sou tèt Vil la, mwen te sezi nèt devan vizyon an.
"Then the wicked saw what they had lost; and fire was breathed from God upon them, and consumed them. This was the Execution of the Judgment. The wicked then received according as the saints in unison with Jesus had meted out to them during the 1000 years. The same fire from God that consumed the wicked, purified the whole earth. The broken ragged mountains melted with fervent heat, the atmosphere, also, and all the stubble was consumed. Then our inheritance opened before us, glorious and beautiful, and we inherited the whole earth made new. We all shouted with a loud voice, Glory, Alleluia.
Lè sa a, mechan yo wè sa yo te pèdi a; epi Bondye fè dife soufle sou yo, e li devore yo. Sa a se te Egzekisyon Jijman an. Lè sa a, mechan yo te resevwa dapre sa sen yo, an inyon avèk Jezi, te mezire pou yo pandan 1000 ane yo. Menm dife Bondye a ki te devore mechan yo, te pirifye tout tè a. Mòn yo, ki te kraze e dechire, fonn ak yon chalè ki t ap boule anpil; atmosfè a tou, epi tout pay la te boule nèt. Lè sa a, eritaj nou an louvri devan nou, bèl anpil e plen glwa, epi nou te eritye tout tè a ki te vin nouvo. Nou tout te rele byen fò ak yon vwa pwisan: Glwa, Alelouya.
"I also saw that the shepherds should consult those in whom they have reason to have confidence, those who have been in all the messages, and are firm in all the present truth, before they advocate any new point of importance, which they may think the Bible sustains. Then the shepherds will be perfectly united, and the union of the shepherds will be felt by the church. Such a course I saw would prevent unhappy divisions, and then there would be no danger of the precious flock being divided, and the sheep scattered, without a shepherd."—
“Mwen te wè tou ke bèje yo dwe konsilte moun sa yo gen rezon pou yo gen konfyans ladan yo, sa yo ki te patisipe nan tout mesaj yo, epi ki fèm nan tout verite prezan an, anvan yo soutni nenpòt nouvo pwen ki gen enpòtans, ke yo ta ka panse Bib la apiye. Lè sa a, bèje yo va ini nèt ale, epi inyon bèje yo va santi nan legliz la. Mwen te wè yon chemen konsa ta anpeche divizyon malere, epi lè sa a pa t ap gen okenn danje pou twoupo presye a divize, ni pou mouton yo gaye, san yon bèje.”—
And then it concludes with five more paragraphs which I have in a box for you, because these five paragraphs out of the article are the ones that are going to end up in Early Writings. That is why these final five paragraphs have the box around them.
Epi answit li fini ak senk lòt paragraf ke mwen mete nan yon bwat pou nou, paske se senk paragraf sa yo, soti nan atik la, ki pral rive antre nan Early Writings. Se poutèt sa senk dènye paragraf sa yo gen bwat la toutotou yo.
"September 23d, the Lord showed me that he had stretched out his hand the second time to recover the remnant of his people, and that efforts must be redoubled in this gathering time. In the scattering time Israel was smitten and torn; but now in the gathering time God will heal and bind up his people. In the scattering, efforts made to spread the truth had but little effect, accomplished but little or nothing; but in the gathering when God has set his hand to gather his people, efforts to spread the truth will have their designed effect. All should be united and zealous in the work. I saw that it was a shame for any to refer to the scattering for examples to govern us now in the gathering; for if God does no more for us now than he did then, Israel would never be gathered. It is as necessary that the truth should be published in a paper, as preached.
23 septanm, Senyè a te montre m li te lonje men l yon dezyèm fwa pou rekipere rès pèp li a, e fòk efò yo double nan tan rasanbleman sa a. Nan tan dispèsyon an, Izrayèl te frape epi dechire; men kounye a, nan tan rasanbleman an, Bondye pral geri pèp li a epi bande blesi li yo. Nan dispèsyon an, efò yo te fè pou gaye verite a te gen trè piti efè, yo te reyalize trè piti oswa anyen ditou; men nan rasanbleman an, lè Bondye mete men l pou rasanble pèp li a, efò yo fè pou gaye verite a pral gen efè li te fèt pou l genyen. Tout moun dwe ini epi chofe osijè travay la. Mwen te wè se te yon wont pou nenpòt moun ta pran dispèsyon an kòm egzanp pou dirije nou kounye a nan rasanbleman an; paske si Bondye pa fè plis pou nou kounye a pase sa li te fè lè sa a, Izrayèl pa t ap janm rasanble. Li nesesè menm jan pou verite a pibliye nan yon jounal, menm jan yo preche li.
"The Lord showed me that the 1843 chart was directed by his hand, and that no part of it should be altered; that the figures were as he wanted them. That his hand was over and hid a mistake in some of the figures, so that none could see it, until his hand was removed.
“Seyè a te montre m ke tablo 1843 la te dirije pa men pa li, e ke okenn pati ladan pa t dwe chanje; ke chif yo te jan li te vle yo a. Ke men li te sou li epi te kache yon erè nan kèk nan chif yo, pou pèsonn pa t kapab wè sa, jouk lè men li te retire.”
"Then I saw in relation to the —Daily,' that the word —sacrifice' was supplied by man's wisdom, and does not belong to the text; and that the Lord gave the correct view of it to those who gave the judgment hour cry. When union existed, before 1844, nearly all were united on the correct view of the —Daily;' but since 1844, in the confusion, other views have been embraced, and darkness and confusion has followed.
“Lè sa a, mwen wè konsènan —Chak Jou a,’ ke se sajès lèzòm ki te ajoute mo —sakrifis’ la, e li pa fè pati tèks la; epi ke Senyè a te bay bon konpreyansyon sou sa bay moun ki te bay kri lè jijman an. Lè te gen inyon, anvan 1844, prèske tout moun te ini sou bon konpreyansyon —Chak Jou a;’ men depi 1844, nan konfizyon an, yo te adopte lòt opinyon, e fènwa ak konfizyon te swiv.”
"The Lord showed me that Time had not been a test since 1844, and that time will never again be a test.
“Seyè a te montre m ke tan pa t yon tès depi 1844, e tan p ap janm ankò yon tès.”
"Then I was pointed to some who are in the great error, that the saints are yet to go to Old Jerusalem, &c., before the Lord comes. Such a view is calculated to take the mind and interest from the present work of God, under the message of the third angel; for if we are to go to Jerusalem, then our minds will naturally be there, and our means will be withheld from other uses, to get the saints to Jerusalem. I saw that the reason why they were left to go into this great error, is because they have not confessed and forsaken their errors, that they have been in for a number of years past." Review and Herald, November 1, 1850."
« Lè sa a, yo te atire atansyon m sou kèk moun ki nan gwo erè sa a, ki kwè sen yo gen pou yo ale ankò nan ansyen Jerizalèm, elatriye, anvan Senyè a vini. Yon opinyon konsa gen tandans detounen lespri ak enterè yo lwen travay Bondye ap fè kounye a, anba mesaj twazyèm zanj lan; paske si nou gen pou nou ale Jerizalèm, lè sa a lespri nou pral natirèlman fikse sou kote sa a, epi mwayen nou yo pral retire nan lòt itilizasyon, pou mennen sen yo Jerizalèm. Mwen te wè rezon ki fè yo te kite yo tonbe nan gwo erè sa a, se paske yo pa t konfese ni abandone erè yo, erè kote yo te plonje pandan plizyè ane deja. » Review and Herald, 1ye novanm 1850.
Do you see them? Do you know what I am talking about?
Èske nou wè yo? Èske nou konnen sa m ap pale a?
Okay. If we go into these five final paragraphs, you will see some things that are different in the original than you will find in Early Writings, page 74.
Dakò. Si nou antre nan senk dènye paragraf sa yo, n ap wè kèk bagay ki diferan nan tèks orijinal la pase sa nou jwenn nan Early Writings, paj 74.
FROM THE AUDIENCE: So, you are saying these in the box are the originals?
SOT NAN ODISYANS LAN: Donk, èske w ap di sa ki nan bwat la yo se orijinal yo?
These in the box, these are the last five paragraphs in this original article, and this box is around them. These five paragraphs are what ultimately end up in Early Writings, page 74.
Sa ki nan bwat la, sa yo se senk dènye paragraf nan atik orijinal sa a, epi bwat sa a antoure yo. Senk paragraf sa yo se sa ki finalman vin parèt nan Early Writings, paj 74.
But, when was this printed, when was this written? November 1850.
Men, ki lè sa te enprime, ki lè sa te ekri? Novanm 1850.
So, I have in bold-faced the things that are going to be changed from these five paragraphs. There is going to be a metamorphosis with this; because, in the very near future in 1851 the book A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White is going to be printed and they are going to take these paragraphs and put them in A Sketch of the Christian Experience and View of Ellen G. White. And from here [article in Review and Herald, November 1850] to A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White there are some minor editorial changes that happened to these five paragraphs. And then from A Sketch of the Christian Experience and View of Ellen G. White in 1851 to Early Writings in 1882, there are some more editorial changes, and those editorial changes are what make Early Writings, page 74, convoluted.
Konsa, mwen mete an karaktè gra sa yo ki pral chanje nan senk paragraf sa yo. Pral gen yon metamòfoz nan sa a; paske, nan yon avni ki trè pre, an 1851, liv A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White pral enprime, epi yo pral pran paragraf sa yo pou mete yo nan A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White. E soti isit la [atik nan Review and Herald, Novanm 1850] rive nan A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White, gen kèk ti chanjman editoryal ki te fèt nan senk paragraf sa yo. Epi apre sa, depi A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White an 1851 rive nan Early Writings an 1882, gen kèk lòt chanjman editoryal ankò, e se chanjman editoryal sa yo ki fè Early Writings, paj 74, vin konplike.
So, in these five paragraphs that conclude in the original manuscript, in the first paragraph, "September 23d, the Lord showed me . . . ," that is going to be changed.
Kidonk, nan senk paragraf sa yo ki fè konklizyon an nan maniskri orijinal la, nan premye paragraf la, “23 septanm, Senyè a te montre m . . . ,” sa pral chanje.
In the next paragraphs: "Then I saw . . ."; "Then I saw . . ."; The Lord showed me . . . "; and, "Then I was pointed to . . ."; these things get some minor adjustments.
Nan paragraf ki vini yo: “Apre sa mwen wè . . .”; “Apre sa mwen wè . . .”; “Senyè a te montre m . . .”; epi, “Apre sa yo te atire atansyon m sou . . .”; bagay sa yo resevwa kèk ti ajisteman minè.
Shown Ten Primary Truths in Thirteen Paragraphs
Dis verite prensipal yo prezante nan trèz paragraf
But, what I want you to see in these thirteen paragraphs from the original article, she has shown ten primary things.
Men, sa m vle nou wè nan trèz paragraf sa yo ki soti nan atik orijinal la, se ke li te montre dis bagay prensipal.
And now I remember why I have these things bold-faced. It is not because those are going to get changed. I am emphasizing something for you, if you will see, that in these thirteen paragraphs she was shown this . . . , she was shown this . . . , she was shown this . . . , she was shown this. And when she was shown one thing, after she tells us about it, then she is shown something that is not necessarily connected to what she was just shown: "I was shown this . . . ; I was shown this . . . ; I was shown this . . . .
E kounye a mwen sonje poukisa mwen mete bagay sa yo an karaktè gra. Se pa paske yo pral chanje. Mwen ap mete anfaz sou yon bagay pou nou, si nou vle wè l, ke nan trèz paragraf sa yo yo te montre li sa . . . , yo te montre li sa . . . , yo te montre li sa . . . , yo te montre li sa. E lè yo te montre li yon bagay, apre li fin rakonte nou sa, yo montre li yon lòt bagay ki pa nesesèman gen rapò ak sa yo te fèk montre li a: “Yo te montre m sa . . . ; yo te montre m sa . . . ; yo te montre m sa . . . .”
You can check me out and read it for yourself, but she was shown ten primary truths in these thirteen paragraphs.
Ou ka verifye sa m ap di a epi li l pou tèt ou, men yo te montre li dis verite prensipal nan trèz paragraf sa yo.
Here is what she was shown. She was shown about God's love, about offerings, about prayer for the sick, about the communion service, about the Seven Last Plagues connected with the Millennium, about new light, about the gathering after 1844, about the publishing work, about the 1843 Chart, about the "Daily," about "time" as a test, and about pilgrimages to Jerusalem. And if you read it carefully, this is not a flow of thought. This is a very, "I was shown this," and she records what she was shown; and, she was shown something that is not necessarily connected. You have to see that; because, as they begin to pull these paragraphs together, they begin to create the thought that she saying something that she really did not say.
Men sa yo te montre l. Yo te montre l konsènan lanmou Bondye, konsènan ofrann, konsènan lapriyè pou malad yo, konsènan sèvis kominyon an, konsènan Sèt Dènye Flewo yo an rapò ak Milenyòm nan, konsènan nouvo limyè, konsènan rasanbleman apre 1844, konsènan travay piblikasyon an, konsènan Tablo 1843 a, konsènan “Daily” a, konsènan “tan” kòm yon tès, epi konsènan pelerinaj pou Jerizalèm. E si nou li sa avèk atansyon, sa pa yon koule panse. Sa se yon bagay ki trè konsa: “Yo te montre m sa,” epi li anrejistre sa yo te montre l; epi yo te montre l yon bagay ki pa nesesèman konekte. Nou dwe wè sa; paske, lè yo kòmanse rasanble paragraf sa yo ansanm, yo kòmanse kreye lide ke li ap di yon bagay li, an reyalite, pa t vrèman di.
Review and Herald, November 1, 1850
Review and Herald, 1ye novanm 1850
Okay. Notice the first paragraph of the five paragraphs that we are dealing with from November 1850.
Dakò. Remake premye paragraf senk paragraf n ap egzamine yo, ki soti nan mwa novanm 1850 la.
"September 23d, the Lord showed me that he had stretched out his hand the second time to recover the remnant of his people, and that efforts must be redoubled in this gathering time. In the scattering time Israel was smitten and torn; but now in the gathering time God will heal and bind up his people. In the scattering, efforts made to spread the truth had but little effect, accomplished but little or nothing; but in the gathering when God has set his hand to gather his people, efforts to spread the truth will have their designed effect. All should be united and zealous in the work. I saw that it was a shame for any to refer to the scattering for examples to govern us now in the gathering; for if God does no more for us now than he did then, Israel would never be gathered. It is as necessary that the truth should be published in a paper, as preached."—
23 septanm, Senyè a te montre m li te lonje men li yon dezyèm fwa pou rekipere rès pèp li a, e ke efò yo dwe double nan tan rasanbleman sa a. Nan tan dispèsyon an, Izrayèl te frape epi dechire; men kounye a, nan tan rasanbleman an, Bondye pral geri pèp li a epi bande blesi li yo. Nan dispèsyon an, efò yo te fè pou gaye verite a te gen trè piti efè, yo te akonpli trè piti oswa anyen menm; men nan rasanbleman an, lè Bondye mete men li pou rasanble pèp li a, efò yo fè pou gaye verite a pral gen efè yo te fèt pou yo genyen. Tout moun dwe ini epi chofe nan travay la. Mwen te wè se te yon wont pou nenpòt moun ta pran dispèsyon an kòm egzanp pou dirije nou kounye a nan rasanbleman an; paske si Bondye pa fè plis pou nou kounye a pase sa li te fè lè sa a, Izrayèl pa t ap janm rasanble. Li nesesè menm jan pou verite a pibliye nan yon jounal, tankou pou yo preche li.”—
The last sentence from that paragraph, it says, "It is as necessary that the truth should be published in a paper, as preached." Okay. This thought is going to be dropped.
Dènye fraz paragraf sa a di: “Li nesesè menm jan pou verite a pibliye nan yon jounal, menm jan li nesesè pou yo preche li.” Dakò. Panse sa a pral abandone.
The second paragraph of the five that we are considering, where it says, "The Lord showed me," you see I have it underlined.
Dezyèm paragraf nan senk sa yo n ap konsidere yo, kote li di: «Senyè a te montre m», nou wè mwen souliye li.
—"The Lord showed me that the 1843 chart was directed by his hand, and that no part of it should be altered; that the figures were as he wanted them. That his hand was over and hid a mistake in some of the figures, so that none could see it, until his hand was removed."—
—«Seyè a te montre m ke tablo 1843 la te dirije pa men li, e ke okenn pati ladan li pa t dwe chanje; ke chif yo te jan li te vle yo a. Ke men li te sou li epi li te kache yon erè nan kèk nan chif yo, konsa pèsonn pa t kapab wè li, jouk lè men li te wete.»—
The reason I have anything underlined in these four paragraphs at the top of the page is that those are going to have editorial changes when it gets reprinted in A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White in 1851.
Rezon ki fè mwen gen kèk bagay souliye nan kat paragraf sa yo anlè paj la, se paske y ap fè chanjman editoryal ladan yo lè yo va reimprime l nan A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White an 1851.
Okay. "The Lord showed me," is going to be changed; "by his hand" is going to be changed, "that no part of it should be altered" is going to be changed.
Dakò. “Seyè a te montre m” pral chanje; “pa men li” pral chanje; “pou okenn pati ladan l pa ta dwe chanje” pral chanje.
Then in the next bold-faced paragraph [fourth paragraph] on the page says,
Apre sa, nan pwochen paragraf an karaktè gra [katriyèm paragraf la] sou paj la, li di,
—"The Lord showed me that Time had not been a test since 1844, and that time will never again be a test."—
—«Le Seigneur m’a montré que le Temps n’avait pas été une épreuve depuis 1844, et que le temps ne sera plus jamais une épreuve.»—
"The Lord showed me," that is going to be changed. What they are going to do the next year in A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White, they are going to take that one-sentence paragraph and they are going to combine it with the previous paragraph. They are going to turn it into one paragraph.
«Senyè a te montre m», sa pral chanje. Sa yo pral fè ane annapre a nan A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White, se pran paragraf sa a ki gen yon sèl fraz epi mete l ansanm ak paragraf ki vini anvan an. Yo pral fè l tounen yon sèl paragraf.
But, also, if a word or words are bold-faced, there is going to be some other types of changes; and, I will give you an example of what I mean.
Men, tou, si yon mo oswa kèk mo ekri an gra, ap gen kèk lòt kalite chanjman tou; epi, m ap ba ou yon egzanp sou sa m vle di.
And in the third paragraph it says,
Epi nan twazyèm paragraf la, li di,
—"Then I saw in relation to the —Daily,' that the word —sacrifice' was supplied by man's wisdom, and does not belong to the text; and that the Lord gave the correct view of it to those who gave the judgment hour cry. When union existed, before 1844, nearly all were united on the correct view of the —Daily;' but since 1844, in the confusion, other views have been embraced, and darkness and confusion has followed."—
—“Lè sa a, mwen te wè konsènan —Kontinyèl la,’ ke mo —sakrifis’ la se sajès lèzòm ki te mete l la, e li pa fè pati tèks la; e ke Senyè a te bay bon konpreyansyon sou sa bay moun ki te pwoklame kri lè jijman an. Lè te gen inyon, anvan 1844, prèske tout moun te ini sou bon konpreyansyon —Kontinyèl la;’ men depi 1844, nan konfizyon an, yo te adopte lòt opinyon, e fènwa ak konfizyon te vin swiv.”
Then in the next bold-faced paragraph [fourth paragraph] on the page says,
Lè sa a, nan pwochen paragraf an karaktè gra [katriyèm paragraf la] sou paj la, li di,
"The Lord showed me that Time had not been a test since 1844, and that time will never again be a test."—
"Seyè a te montre m ke Tan pa t yon tès depi 1844, e tan p ap janm tounen yon tès ankò."—
"The Lord showed me," that is going to be changed.
“Seyè a te montre m,” sa pral chanje.
What they are going to do the next year in A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White, they are going to take that one-sentence paragraph and they are going to combine it with the previous paragraph. They are going to turn it into one paragraph.
Sa yo pral fè ane annapre a nan A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White, se pran paragraf yon sèl fraz sa a epi yo pral mete l ansanm ak paragraf ki vin anvan an. Yo pral fè l tounen yon sèl paragraf.
And they are going to change "The Lord showed me" to "I was also shown." Okay? They are going to make those two paragraphs one paragraph, and they are going to change it to, "I was also shown," in 1851.
Epi yo pral chanje “Senyè a te montre m” pou “Yo te montre m sa tou.” Dakò? Yo pral fè de paragraf sa yo tounen yon sèl paragraf, epi yo pral chanje sa pou l di, “Yo te montre m sa tou,” an 1851.
—"Then I was pointed to some who are in the great error, that the saints are yet to go to Old Jerusalem, &c., before the Lord comes. Such a view is calculated to take the mind and interest from the present work of God, under the message of the third angel; for if we are to go to Jerusalem, then our minds will naturally be there, and our means will be withheld from other uses, to get the saints to Jerusalem. I saw that the reason why they were left to go into this great error, is because they have not confessed and forsaken their errors, that they have been in for a number of years past." Review and Herald, November 1, 1850.
—«Lè sa a, yo te montre m kèk moun ki nan gwo erè sa a, ki kwè sen yo gen pou yo ale nan Ansyen Jerizalèm, elatriye, anvan Seyè a vini. Yon pwennvi konsa fèt pou detounen lespri a ak enterè a anba travay Bondye ap fè kounye a, anba mesaj twazyèm zanj lan; paske si nou gen pou nou ale Jerizalèm, lè sa a lespri nou pral natirèlman fikse la, epi mwayen nou yo pral retni pou lòt itilizasyon, pou mennen sen yo Jerizalèm. Mwen te wè rezon ki fè yo te kite yo tonbe nan gwo erè sa a, se paske yo pa t konfese epi abandone erè yo, erè kote yo te ye pandan yon kantite ane ki sot pase yo.» Review and Herald, 1ye novanm 1850.
But, when you get to Early Writings, do you know what they do? They drop the "I was also shown," where in Early Writings this one paragraph, it is going to say, "When union existed before 1844, nearly all were united on the correct view of the —Daily,' but since 1844, in the confusion, other views have been embraced, and darkness and confusion has followed." They dropped the "I was also shown," and the next sentence is, "time had not been a test since 1844." Suddenly you do not know that this thought about time not being a test is one of things that she was specifically shown. You believe that this was part of her light on the Daily in the false view producing confusion.
Men, lè nou rive nan *Early Writings*, èske nou konnen sa yo fè? Yo retire pawòl la: “I was also shown,” kote, nan *Early Writings*, paragraf sa a pral di: “When union existed before 1844, nearly all were united on the correct view of the —Daily,’ but since 1844, in the confusion, other views have been embraced, and darkness and confusion has followed.” Yo retire “I was also shown,” epi fraz ki vin apre a se: “time had not been a test since 1844.” Toudenkou, ou pa konnen ankò ke panse sa a konsènan tan ki pa t yon tès depi 1844 se youn nan bagay yo te montre li espesyalman. Ou kwè ke sa te fè pati limyè li te resevwa sou Daily la nan lide fo a ki pwodui konfizyon.
That is not the original. You have the original. Check it out.
Sa pa orijinal la. Ou gen orijinal la. Verifye li.
The Next Step (Step Two)—1851 A Sketch of the Christian Experience and View of Ellen G. White
Pwochen Etap la (Dezyèm Etap la)—1851 Yon Rezime sou Eksperyans Kretyen an ak Vizyon Ellen G. White yo
Then underneath this, you have, A Sketch of the Christian Experience and View of Ellen G. White, printed in 1851; and, you have the breakdowns of the changes that took place, and there is a very, very significant change.
Apre sa, ou genyen *A Sketch of the Christian Experience and View of Ellen G. White*, ki te enprime an 1851; epi ou genyen analiz detaye sou chanjman ki te fèt yo, e gen yon chanjman ki trè, trè enpòtan.
"September 23d, the Lord shewed [formerly—"showed"] me that he had stretched out his hand the second time to recover the remnant of his people, and that efforts must be redoubled in this gathering time. In the scattering, Israel was smitten and torn; but now in the gathering time God will heal and bind up his people. In the scattering, efforts made to spread the truth had but little effect, accomplished but little or nothing; but in the gathering, when God has set his hand to gather his people, efforts to spread the truth will have their designed effect. All should be united and zealous in the work. I saw that it was wrong for any to refer to the scattering for examples to govern us now in the gathering; for if God does no more for us now than he did then, Israel would never be gathered. [Removed: It is as necessary that the truth should be published in a paper, as preached.] [Paragraphs Combined] I have seen [formerly—"the Lord showed me] that the 1843 chart was directed by the hand of the Lord, [formerly—"by His hand"] and that it should not be altered; [formerly—"no part of it should be altered"] that the figures were as he wanted them. That his hand was over, and hid a mistake in some of the figures, so that none could see it, until his hand was removed.
Nan dat 23 septanm, Senyè a te montre m [anvan—“showed”] ke li te lonje men li yon dezyèm fwa pou rekipere rès pèp li a, e ke efò yo dwe double nan tan rasanbleman sa a. Nan dispèsyon an, Izrayèl te frape epi dechire; men kounye a, nan tan rasanbleman an, Bondye pral geri epi pansman pèp li a. Nan dispèsyon an, efò ki te fèt pou gaye verite a te gen sèlman yon ti efè, yo te akonpli ti kras oswa anyen; men nan rasanbleman an, lè Bondye mete men li pou rasanble pèp li a, efò pou gaye verite a pral gen efè yo te fèt pou yo genyen. Tout moun ta dwe ini epi plen zèl nan travay la. Mwen te wè ke li pa t kòrèk pou pèsonn pran dispèsyon an kòm egzanp pou dirije nou kounye a nan rasanbleman an; paske si Bondye pa fè plis pou nou kounye a pase sa li te fè lè sa a, Izrayèl pa t ap janm rasanble. [Retire: Li menm nesesè pou verite a pibliye nan yon jounal, menm jan li preche.] [Paragraf yo konbine] Mwen te wè [anvan—“Senyè a te montre m”] ke tablo 1843 a te dirije pa men Senyè a, [anvan—“pa men Li”] e ke li pa ta dwe chanje; [anvan—“okenn pati ladan li pa ta dwe chanje”] ke chif yo te jan li te vle yo a. Ke men li te sou li, e li te kache yon erè nan kèk nan chif yo, pou pèsonn pa t kapab wè li, jiskaske men li te retire.
"Then I saw in relation to the —Daily,' that the word —sacrifice' was supplied by man's wisdom, and does not belong to the text; and that the Lord gave the correct view of it to those who gave the judgment hour cry. When union existed, before 1844, nearly all were united on the correct view of the —Daily;' but since 1844, in the confusion, other views have been embraced, and darkness and confusion have followed. [Paragraphs Combined] I have also seen [Formerly—"the Lord showed me"] that time had not been a test since 1844, and that time will never again be a test.]" A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White, ExV 61–62.
"Lè sa a mwen wè, an rapò ak —Chak jou a,' ke mo —sakrifis' la te ajoute pa sajès lèzòm, e li pa fè pati tèks la; e ke Senyè a te bay bon konpreyansyon sou sa bay moun ki te bay kri lè jijman an. Lè inyon te egziste, anvan 1844, prèske tout moun te ini sou bon konpreyansyon de —Chak jou a;' men depi 1844, nan konfizyon an, lòt opinyon yo te anbrase, e tenèb ak konfizyon te swiv. [Paragraf yo konbine] Mwen wè tou [Anvan sa—"Senyè a te montre m"] ke tan pa t yon eprèv depi 1844, e ke tan pap janm ankò yon eprèv.]" A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White, ExV 61–62.
Time not Connected with the Message of the Third Angel
Tan ki pa Gen Rapò ak Mesaj Twazyèm Zanj lan
Ellen White had a different vision than the vision that she had that ultimately ends up in Early Writings. She had several visions; but, she had a vision where she was told something; she was told one paragraph, and she wrote it down.
Ellen White te gen yon vizyon diferan de vizyon li te genyen ki finalman te vin parèt nan *Early Writings*. Li te gen plizyè vizyon; men, li te gen yon vizyon kote yo te di li yon bagay; yo te di li yon paragraf, epi li te ekri l.
"The Lord has shown me that the message of the third angel must go, and be proclaimed to the scattered children of the Lord, and that it should not be hung on time; for time never will be a test again. I saw that some were getting a false excitement arising from preaching time; that the third angel's message was stronger than time can be. I saw that this message can stand on its own foundation, and that it needs not time to strengthen it, and that it will go in mighty power, and do its work, and will be cut short in righteousness." A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White, ExV 48.
“Seyè a te montre m ke mesaj twazyèm zanj lan dwe ale, e dwe pwoklame bay timoun Seyè a ki gaye yo, epi li pa dwe mare ak tan; paske tan p ap janm yon tès ankò. Mwen te wè ke kèk moun t ap pran yon fo eksitasyon ki soti nan predikasyon sou tan; mesaj twazyèm zanj lan te pi fò pase sa tan ka ye. Mwen te wè ke mesaj sa a ka kanpe sou pwòp fondasyon pa li, e li pa bezwen tan pou ranfòse li, e li pral ale avèk gwo pisans, li pral fè travay li, epi li pral fini vit nan jistis.” A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White, ExV 48.
What is she speaking about there? That we should never connect the Third Angel's Message with time again, right?
De quoi parle-t-elle ici ? Que nous ne devrions plus jamais relier le message du troisième ange au temps, n’est-ce pas ?
Amen? Are you with me?
Amèn? Èske nou avè m?
Where do you find this? Where is it located?
Ki kote ou jwenn sa? Ki kote li ye?
FROM THE AUDIENCE: (No response.)
SOT NAN ODISYANS LAN: (Pa gen repons.)
FROM THE AUDIENCE: A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views.
SOTI NAN ASISTANS LAN: Yon Deskripsyon Eksperyans ak Opinyon Kretyen yo.
A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White, page 48, page 48.
Yon Deskripsyon sou Eksperyans Kretyen ak Opinyon Ellen G. White, paj 48, paj 48.
Okay. Where do we find the passage that we are discussing that is derived from Review and Herald, November 1850; where is that located in A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White? Well, it is located, if you back up in your notes, it is located in A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White, page 61 and page 62.
Dakò. Ki kote nou jwenn pasaj n ap diskite a, ki sòti nan Review and Herald, Novanm 1850; ki kote sa ye nan A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White? Bon, li chita, si nou retounen yon ti kras nan nòt nou yo, li chita nan A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White, paj 61 ak paj 62.
You have a vision in A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White that is recorded on page 48; then you have the vision that ultimately is going to end up in Early Writings, on pages 61 and 62. They are separated by 13 or 14 pages, right?
Ou gen yon vizyon nan A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White ki anrejistre nan paj 48; epi apre sa ou gen vizyon an ki, finalman, pral parèt nan Early Writings, nan paj 61 ak 62. Yo separe pa 13 oswa 14 paj, pa vre?
And what are they going to do when it comes to Early Writings? They are going to take this paragraph from page 48 and they are going to insert it right after her statement that time is no longer a test. They are going to put two visions together.
E kisa yo pral fè lè sa rive nan Early Writings? Yo pral pran paragraf sa a nan paj 48, epi yo pral mete l tousuit apre deklarasyon pa li a ki di tan pa yon tès ankò. Yo pral mete de vizyon ansanm.
Are you following what I mean?
Èske nou suiv sa m vle di a?
MAN IN THE AUDIENCE: Yes.
NONM KI NAN ODYANS LAN: Wi.
Are you following what I mean?
Èske n ap suiv sa m vle di a?
INDIVIDUAL ADDRESSED IN THE AUDIENCE: (Affirmation.)
MOUN YO AP ADRESE NAN ODITWA A: (Afirmasyon.)
Okay, because you are the one that I am seeing less confirmation with.
Dakò, paske se ou menm mwen wè mwens konfimasyon avèk.
The Last Step (Step Three)—1882 Early Writings
Dènye Etap la (Twazyèm Etap)—Ekri Bonè 1882
Okay. Now, I am back to page 6 of your notes; and, now you have Early Writings again.
Dakò. Kounye a, mwen retounen nan paj 6 nan nòt ou yo; e, kounye a, ou gen Early Writings ankò.
"September 23, . . . I have seen that the 1843 chart was directed by the hand of the Lord, and that it should not be altered; that the figures were as He wanted them; that His hand was over and hid a mistake in some of the figures, so that none could see it, until His hand was removed.
“23 septembre, . . . Mwen wè ke tablo 1843 a te dirije pa men Seyè a, e ke li pa t dwe chanje; ke chif yo te jan Li te vle yo a; ke men Li te sou li epi li te kache yon erè nan kèk nan chif yo, pou pèsonn pa t kapab wè li, jouk lè men Li te retire.”
"Then I saw in relation to the —daily' (Daniel 8:12) that the word —sacrifice' was supplied by man's wisdom, and does not belong to the text, and that the Lord gave the correct view of it to those who gave the judgment hour cry. When union existed, before 1844, nearly all were united on the correct view of the —daily'; but in the confusion since 1844, other views have been embraced, and darkness and confusion have followed. Time has not been a test since 1844, and it will never again be a test.
“Apre sa, mwen wè konsènan ‘kontinyèl’ la (Daniel 8:12) ke se sajès lèzòm ki te ajoute mo ‘sakrifis’ la, e li pa fè pati tèks la, e ke Seyè a te bay bon konpreyansyon sou li a moun ki te pwoklame kri sou lè jijman an. Lè inyon te egziste, anvan 1844, prèske tout moun te ini sou bon konpreyansyon ‘kontinyèl’ la; men nan konfizyon ki gen depi 1844 la, lòt opinyon yo te adopte, e fènwa ak konfizyon te swiv. Tan pa t yon tès depi 1844, e li p ap janm yon tès ankò.
"The Lord has shown me that the message of the third angel must go, and be proclaimed to the scattered children of the Lord, but it must not be hung on time. I saw that some were getting a false excitement, arising from preaching time; but the third angel's message is stronger than time can be. I saw that this message can stand on its own foundation and needs not time to strengthen it; and that it will go in mighty power, and do its work, and will be cut short in righteousness.
Seyè a fè m wè ke mesaj twazyèm zanj lan dwe ale, e dwe pwoklame bay pitit Seyè a ki gaye yo; men li pa dwe mare sou tan. Mwen wè ke kèk moun t ap pran yon fo eksitasyon ki te soti nan predikasyon sou tan; men mesaj twazyèm zanj lan pi fò pase nenpòt tan ka ye. Mwen wè ke mesaj sa a kapab kanpe sou pwòp fondasyon pa li e li pa bezwen tan pou bay li fòs; e li pral avanse avèk gwo puisans, li pral fè travay li, epi yo pral kout travay la nan jistis.
"Then I was pointed to some who are in the great error of believing that it is their duty to go to Old Jerusalem . . ." Early Writings, 74-76.
“Lè sa a, yo te atire atansyon m sou kèk moun ki nan gwo erè sa a, ki kwè se devwa yo pou yo ale nan ansyen Jerizalèm . . .” Early Writings, 74-76.
And the reason that this is bold-faced, this is the paragraph here where it says, ". . . When union existed, before 1844, nearly all were united on the correct view of the —daily'; but in the confusion since 1844, other views have been embraced, and darkness and confusion have followed. Time has not been a test since 1844, and it will never again be a test." you need to remember that originally in her first record of this vision, she said, "I was shown that time has not been a test since 1844," and it was a different paragraph. She had made sure that there was a distinction in what she was shown about the Daily and what was shown her about time being a test; and that the next paragraph, which is talking about no connecting time with the Third Angel's Message, it was not in the original vision. It was on page 48 of Life Sketches, not pages 61 and 62.
Epi rezon ki fè sa a an karaktè gra, se paragraf sa a isit la kote li di: “. . . Lè inyon te egziste, anvan 1844, prèske tout moun te ini sou konpreyansyon kòrèk sou ‘kontinyèl’ la; men nan konfizyon ki te genyen depi 1844, lòt opinyon te adopte, e fènwa ak konfizyon te swiv. Tan pa t yon tès depi 1844, e li p ap janm ankò yon tès.” Ou bezwen sonje ke okòmansman, nan premye rapò li te fè sou vizyon sa a, li te di: “Yo te montre m ke tan pa t yon tès depi 1844,” e sa te yon paragraf diferan. Li te pran swen pou te gen yon distenksyon ant sa yo te montre l konsènan Kontinyèl la ak sa yo te montre l konsènan tan kòm yon tès; epi paragraf ki vin apre a, ki pale sou pa gen okenn tan ki konekte ak Mesaj Twazyèm Zanj lan, pa t nan vizyon orijinal la. Sa te nan paj 48 nan Life Sketches, pa nan paj 61 ak 62.
But, when you come to Early Writings in 1882, they put them together; and, therefore, when you get to the 1930s and you are going off into deep darkness in Adventism, and Willie White says that when you are studying the Daily you must study it in the context of time—"Sorry, Willie, your responsibility was to be the one that gave the accurate historical record of the Spirit of Prophecy. You were to be the one that defeated the Spirit of Prophecy. And in your presentation of Early Writings, page 75, you disregarded the original sources, and those original sources say that when you lifted the argument that the Daily has to be considered in the context of time in Early Writings, 74, that is absolutely untrue."—It is untrue! It cannot be sustained by the record in the Spirit of Prophecy. It cannot be sustained by the history of that time period.
Men, lè nou rive nan *Early Writings* an 1882, yo mete yo ansanm; e, konsa, lè nou rive nan ane 1930 yo epi n ap antre nan tenèb pwofon nan Advantis la, epi Willie White di ke lè n ap etidye “Daily” a nou dwe etidye li nan kontèks tan an—“Padon, Willie, responsablite ou te genyen se te pou ou menm ki bay dosye istorik egzak Lespri Pwofesi a. Se te pou ou menm ki ta kraze Lespri Pwofesi a. E nan prezantasyon ou fè de *Early Writings*, paj 75, ou neglije sous orijinal yo, e sous orijinal sa yo di ke lè ou te pran agiman an ki di ke “Daily” a dwe konsidere nan kontèks tan an nan *Early Writings*, 74, sa se absoliman pa vre.”—Sa pa vre! Dosye ki nan Lespri Pwofesi a pa ka soutni sa. Istwa peryòd sa a pa ka soutni sa nonplis.
Okay. Point 1, Sister White says that there is a correct view of the Daily, in Early Writings, 74. The primary argument that is foisted later on in history is that when you study that passage in Early Writings, 74, you have to place it in the context of time setting. That argument is bogus; it is not valid!
Dakò. Premye pwen an, Sè White di ke gen yon bon konpreyansyon sou “Kontinyèl la” a, nan Early Writings, 74. Agiman prensipal yo te fòse sou kestyon an pi ta nan listwa se ke, lè w ap etidye pasaj sa a nan Early Writings, 74, fòk ou mete l nan kontèks fikse tan an. Agiman sa a se yon fo agiman; li pa valab!
So, now we are stuck with just the position that there is a correct view of the Daily. Okay? But, we are going to take up one more thought out of this paragraph.
Konsa, kounye a nou rete sèlman ak pozisyon sa a, ke gen yon bon konpreyansyon sou “Chak Jou a”. Dakò? Men, nou pral pran yon lòt panse ankò nan paragraf sa a.
It says, "September 23d, the Lord showed me . . . ." September 23d, when? 1850: "September 23d, 1850, the Lord showed me."
Li di: “23 septanm, Senyè a te montre m . . . .” 23 septanm, ki lè? 1850: “23 septanm 1850, Senyè a te montre m.”
What did He show her?
Kisa Li te montre li?
Well one of the things that He showed her was that since 1844, other views of the Daily have been embraced.
Ebyen, youn nan bagay li te montre li se te ke depi 1844, lòt opinyon sou Sakrifis Kontinyèl la te adopte.
"September 23, 1850 the Lord showed me . . . . When union existed, before 1844, nearly all were united on the correct view of the —Daily;' but since 1844, in the confusion, other views have been embraced, and darkness and confusion has followed. The Review and Herald, November 1850."
“Nan dat 23 septanm 1850, Seyè a te montre m . . . . Lè inyon te egziste, anvan 1844, prèske tout moun te ini sou konpreyansyon ki kòrèk la konsènan ‘Sakrifis Kontinyèl la’; men depi 1844, nan konfizyon an, yo te adopte lòt opinyon, epi tenèb ak konfizyon te swiv. The Review and Herald, novanm 1850.”
March 1850 The "Daily" is the Earthly Sanctuary
Mas 1850 — “Chak Jou a” se Tanp ki sou Latè
So, on the bottom of page 6 you have a paragraph that comes from the Review and Herald of March 1850, and it is an article by David Arnold.
Konsa, nan pati anba paj 6 la, nou gen yon paragraf ki soti nan Review and Herald mwa mas 1850, e se yon atik David Arnold ekri.
"He [Daniel] also sees the same oppressive power —standing up against the Prince of princes;' thus putting an end to the legality of all the daily sacrifices instituted at Sinai to be daily observed until the Seed should come. Here Christ, the substance, or great antitypical sacrifice was slain by the Roman soldiers. Thus by Rome —the daily sacrifice was taken away,' and the place of his sanctuary was cast down by Titus, a Roman general, when he destroyed the city of Jerusalem, and the temple of God, which contained —the sanctuary.' Here commenced the fulfillment of Christ's prophetic declaration. And they shall fall by the edge of the sword and shall be led away captive into all nations, and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, UNTIL THE TIMES OF THE GENTILES BE FULFILLED.' Luke 21:24." David Arnold, Review and Herald, March 1850, Volume 1, Number 8.
Li [Dànyèl] wè menm pouvwa opresif la tou —li leve kont Chèf chèf yo;’ konsa li mete fen nan legalite tout sakrifis chak jou yo ki te etabli nan Sinayi pou yo te obsève yo chak jou jiskaske Desandan an ta vini. Isit la Kris la, reyalite a menm, oswa gran sakrifis antitipik la, te touye pa sòlda women yo. Konsa, pa mwayen Wòm, —sakrifis chak jou a te retire,’ epi plas tanp li a te jete atè pa Tit, yon jeneral women, lè li te detwi lavil Jerizalèm ak tanp Bondye a, ki te genyen —tanp lan.’ Se la akonplisman deklarasyon pwofetik Kris la te kòmanse. Epi yo pral tonbe anba file nepe a, epi y ap mennen yo an kaptivite nan tout nasyon yo, epi Jerizalèm pral pilonnen anba pye moun lòt nasyon yo, JISKASKE TAN MOUN LÒT NASYON YO VA RANPLI.’ Lik 21:24.” David Arnold, Review and Herald, Mas 1850, Volim 1, Nimewo 8.
In this article David Arnold teaches that the Daily in the Book of Daniel represents the Jewish sanctuary in Jerusalem that was removed by Pagan Rome in AD70.
Nan atik sa a, David Arnold anseye ke “Kontinyèl la” nan Liv Danyèl la reprezante Tanp jwif la nan Jerizalèm, ke Wòm payen an te retire an 70 aprè Kris.
September 1850 The "Daily" is Christ's Sanctuary Ministry
Septanm 1850 “Sakrifis Toutan an” se Sèvis Kris nan Tanp lan
Then in September 1850, the same year—and by the way, who is the editor of the Review and Herald in 1850? His name is James White.
Lè sa a, an septanm 1850, menm ane sa a—epi, antouka, kiyès ki editè Review and Herald la an 1850? Non li se James White.
James White, then, in September of 1850, he prints an article by Crosier which teaches that the Daily represents Christ's Sanctuary ministry.
Kidonk, nan mwa septanm 1850, James White pibliye yon atik pa Crosier ki anseye ke “Daily” a reprezante ministè Kris la nan Tanp lan.
Now, James White does not teach it directly, but people take the inference there and say that is what he is teaching. And why am I saying this? I am saying this for his reason: In September of 1850, Sister White says that since 1844 other views of the Daily have been embraced in darkness and confusion has followed.
Koulye a, James White pa anseye sa dirèkteman, men moun yo pran sa kòm yon dediksyon epi yo di se sa li menm ap anseye. E poukisa m ap di sa? M ap di sa pou rezon sa a: Nan mwa septanm 1850, Sè White di ke depi 1844 yo te anbrase lòt opinyon sou “Daily” la nan fènwa, epi konfizyon te swiv.
These two views [Arnold and Crosier] are not the Pioneer view that the Daily is Paganism.
De opinyon sa yo toulède [Arnold ak Crosier] pa reprezante opinyon Pyonye yo, ki di “Kontinyèl la” se Paganis.
And on page 7 you have the two paragraphs from Crosier's article, where he is inferring that the Daily is Christ's Sanctuary ministry.
Epi nan paj 7 la, ou gen de paragraf yo soti nan atik Crosier la, kote li ap fè konprann ke “Daily” a se ministè Kris la nan Sanktyè a.
"—And the place of His Sanctuary was cast down;' Daniel 8:11. This casting down was in the days and by the means of the Roman power; therefore, the Sanctuary of this text was not the Earth, nor Palestine, because the former was cast down at the fall, more than 4,000 years, and the latter at the captivity, more than 700 years previous to the event of this passage, and neither by Roman agency.
«—Epi kote Tanp Li a te jete atè;» Danyèl 8:11. Jete sa a te fèt nan jou yo epi pa mwayen pouvwa women an; se poutèt sa, Tanp tèks sa a pa t Latè a, ni Palestin, paske premye a te deja jete atè depi lè sezon otòn la, plis pase 4,000 ane anvan, epi dezyèm nan nan kaptivite a, plis pase 700 ane anvan evènman pasaj sa a, e okenn ladan yo pa t fèt pa mwayen pouvwa women an.
"The Sanctuary cast down is His against whom Rome magnified himself, which was the Prince of the host, Jesus Christ; and Paul teaches that His Sanctuary is in heaven. Again, Daniel 11:30–31, —For the ships of Chittim shall come against him; therefore, shall he be grieved and return, and have indignation (the staff to chastise) against the holy covenant (Christianity), so shall he do; he shall even return and have intelligence with them (priests and bishops) that forsake the holy covenant. And arms (civil and religious) shall stand on his part, and they (Rome and those that forsake the holy covenant) shall pollute the Sanctuary of strength.' What was this that Rome and the apostles of Christianity should joint pollute? This combination was formed against the —holy covenant', and it was the Sanctuary of that covenant they polluted; which they could do as well as to pollute the name of God; Jeremiah 34:16; Ezekiel 20; Malachi 1:7. This was the same as profaning or blaspheming His name. In this sense this —politico-religious' beast polluted the Sanctuary, (Revelation 13:6), and cast it down from its place in heaven, (Psalm 102:19; Jeremiah 17:12; Hebrews 8:1–2) when they called Rome the holy city, (Revelation 21:2) and installed the Pope there with the titles, —Lord God the Pope', —Holy Father', —Head of the Church', etc., and there, in the counterfeit, —temple of God', he professes to do what Jesus actually does in His Sanctuary; 2 Thessalonians 2:1–8. The Sanctuary has been trodden under foot (Daniel 8:13), the same as the Son of God has. (Hebrews 10:29.)" O. R. L. Crosier, —The Sanctuary', Review and Herald, September, 1850.
« Tanp lan yo te jete atè a se pa l’ menm moun Wòm te fè grandizè kont li a, ki te Chèf lame a, Jezi Kris la; e Pòl anseye ke Tanp li a se nan syèl la li ye. Ankò, Danyèl 11:30–31, —Paske bato Kittim yo va vini kont li; se poutèt sa li va gen lapenn, li va tounen, epi li va gen endiyasyon (baton pou chatye) kont alyans sen an (Krisyanis la); konsa li va fè; li va menm tounen epi li va gen antant ak sila yo (prèt ak evèk) ki abandone alyans sen an. Epi zam yo (sivil ak relijye) va kanpe bò kote li, epi yo (Wòm ak sila yo ki abandone alyans sen an) va pwofane Tanp fòs la.’ Ki sa sa te ye Wòm ak apotazi Krisyanis la te ansanm pwofane? Konbinezon sa a te fòme kont —alyans sen an’, e se Tanp alyans sa a yo te pwofane; sa yo te kapab fè menm jan yo te kapab pwofane non Bondye; Jeremi 34:16; Ezekyèl 20; Malachi 1:7. Sa te menm bagay ak derespekte oswa blasfeme non li. Nan sans sa a, bèt sa a —politikorelijye’ te pwofane Tanp lan, (Revelation 13:6), epi li te jete l’ desann soti nan plas li nan syèl la, (Psalms 102:19; Jeremiah 17:12; Hebrews 8:1–2) lè yo te rele Wòm vil sen an, (Revelation 21:2) epi yo te enstale Pap la la avèk tit sa yo, —Seyè Bondye Pap la’, —Papa Sen’, —Tèt Legliz la’, elatriye, epi la, nan —tanp Bondye’ kontrefè a, li pretann fè sa Jezi fè tout bon vre nan Tanp li a; 2 Thessalonians 2:1–8. Yo te foule Tanp lan anba pye (Daniel 8:13), menm jan yo te fè ak Pitit Bondye a. (Hebrews 10:29.)” O. R. L. Crosier, —The Sanctuary’, Review and Herald, September, 1850.
The Logic of James White
Lojik James White la
Why would James White print this article if he knew better? The reason for it is "The Logic of James White" in your notes.
Poukisa James White ta enprime atik sa a si li te konnen pi byen? Rezon an se « Lojik James White » nan nòt ou yo.
The first thing that was printed after the Disappointment is called A Word to the Little Flock, and the three people who were authors in that publication were James and Ellen White and Joseph Bates. The first thing that was printed after October 22, 1844, by those people that were following on the path was this article; and, in this article Sister White endorses Crosier's view, not his view of the Daily but his view of Christ moving from the Holy Place to the Most Holy Place.
Premye bagay ki te enprime apre Desepsyon an rele Yon Pawòl pou Ti Twoupo a, e twa moun ki te otè nan piblikasyon sa a se te James ak Ellen White ansanm ak Joseph Bates. Premye bagay moun sa yo ki t ap kontinye suiv chemen an te enprime apre 22 oktòb 1844 se te atik sa a; epi, nan atik sa a, Sè White apwouve opinyon Crosier la, pa opinyon li sou Kontinyèl la, men opinyon li sou Kris k ap pase soti nan Kote Sen an pou antre nan Kote Ki Pi Sen an.
Notice, this is Sister White. This is why James White would be willing to print Crosier's article, it says,
Remake, se Sè White. Se poutèt sa James White ta dispoze enprime atik Crosier la; li di,
"I believe the Sanctuary, to be cleansed at the end of the 2300 days, is the New Jerusalem Temple, of which Christ is a minister."—this is Ellen White—"The Lord shew me in vision, more than one year ago, that Brother Crosier had the true light, on the cleansing of the Sanctuary, &c; and that it was his will, that Brother C. should write out the view which he gave us in the Day-Star, Extra, February 7, 1846. I feel fully authorized by the Lord, to recommend that Extra, to every saint.
Mwen kwè Tanp lan, ki dwe pirifye nan fen 2300 jou yo, se Tanp Nouvo Jerizalèm nan, kote Kris la se yon minis.” — Men sa Ellen White di — “Senyè a te montre m nan vizyon, plis pase yon ane de sa, ke Frè Crosier te gen vrè limyè a konsènan pirifikasyon Tanp lan, elatriye; e ke se te volonte li pou Frè C. te ekri opinyon li te ban nou nan Day-Star, Extra, 7 fevriye 1846 la. Mwen santi m totalman otorize pa Senyè a pou m rekòmande Extra sa a bay tout sen yo.
"I pray that these lines may prove a blessing to you, and all the dear children who may read them." A Word to the Little Flock, May 12, 1847.
“Mwen priye pou liy sa yo kapab tounen yon benediksyon pou nou, ak tout chè timoun yo ki kapab li yo.” A Word to the Little Flock, 12 me 1847.
So, people even to this day, some of the modern historians in Adventism say, "Look at there. Ellen White is giving her blanket endorsement on Crosier's article; and, therefore, what Crosier said about the Daily being Christ's Sanctuary ministry that has to be true." And when they say that, they are misrepresenting history; because, Crosier's article had eight sections in it and, from the very beginning, the Adventists understood that four of those sections were total darkness and they have never, ever, ever been reprinted in Adventism.
Konsa, jiska a ziska jounen jodi a, kèk nan istoryen modèn yo nan Adantis la di: “Gade la. Ellen White ap bay apwobasyon jeneral li sou atik Crosier la; e, poutèt sa, sa Crosier te di konsènan Daily a kòm ministè Kris la nan Tanp lan dwe vre.” E lè yo di sa, yo ap prezante listwa a yon fason ki pa fidèl; paske atik Crosier la te gen uit seksyon ladan l, epi depi nan kòmansman an, Advantis yo te konprann ke kat nan seksyon sa yo te fènwa nèt, e yo pa janm, janm, janm reimprime yo nan Adantis la.
As an example, one of his positions in that article was that when Jesus returns there is going to be a thousand years of peace. Adventists do not believe that and they never did. That understanding is an understanding that William Miller rejected that actually puts William Miller in the right path for understanding truth. That teaching is one of the teachings that is directly opposite to Millerite understanding.
Pa egzanp, youn nan pozisyon li te pran nan atik sa a se te ke lè Jezi retounen, pral gen yon mil ane lapè. Advantis yo pa kwè sa, e yo pa t janm kwè sa. Konpreyansyon sa a se yon konpreyansyon William Miller te rejte, e sa mete William Miller sou bon chemen pou konprann verite a. Ansèyman sa a se youn nan ansèyman ki dirèkteman opoze ak konpreyansyon Millerit la.
So, when Crosier comes out with this eight-part article, they know right off the bat that four of these parts are not reprintable.
Donk, lè Crosier pibliye atik sa a an uit pati, yo te konnen depi nan kòmansman ke kat nan pati sa yo pa t kapab repwodui.
But, James White prints the part where Crosier does infer that the Daily is Christ's Sanctuary ministry; but, he is only going to reprint those four parts. He is not going to reprint the other four. But, in order for James White to reprint Crosier's four parts, he has to print it in two issues. He had to print it twice in September 1850.
Men, James White enprime pati kote Crosier fè konprann ke “Daily” a se ministè Kris la nan Tanp lan; men li pral sèlman reimprime kat pati sa yo. Li pa pral reimprime kat lòt yo. Men, pou James White te ka reimprime kat pati Crosier yo, li te oblije enprime yo nan de nimewo. Li te oblije enprime sa de fwa nan mwa septanm 1850.
There was not enough room in his Review and Herald in September 1850, so he printed two Review and Heralds in September 1850 so he could get all of Crosier's article on Christ moving from the Holy Place to the Most Holy Place.
Pa t gen ase plas nan nimewo Review and Herald li a nan mwa septanm 1850 la; se poutèt sa, li te enprime de nimewo Review and Herald nan mwa septanm 1850, pou li te kapab mete tout atik Crosier la sou Kris k ap pase soti nan Kote Sen an pou antre nan Kote ki Trè Sen an.
Now, you will notice from Gerard Damsteegt that he is giving the historical evaluation that Adventists always knew that there were parts of Crosier's articles that were incorrect and that they could not be reprinted.
Kounye a, w ap remake dapre Gerard Damsteegt ke li ap bay evalyasyon istorik la selon ki Advantis yo te toujou konnen te gen kèk pati nan atik Crosier yo ki te pa kòrèk e yo pa t kapab reimprime yo.
"She [Ellen Harmon] said: —The Lord showed me in vision, more than one year ago, that Brother Crosier had the true light, on the cleansing of the Sanctuary, &c; and that it was His will that Brother C. should write out the view which he gave us in the Day Star Extra, February 7, 1846. I feel fully authorized by the Lord, to recommend that Extra, to every saint' (Letter. E. G. White to Curtis, Word to the Little Flock, 12). Seventh-day Adventists have usually interpreted this statement to mean that Crosier's presentations were not without mistakes, but that his major typological argumentation was correct. Reprints of the article omitted the aspects which they felt to be inaccurate." P. Gerard Damsteegt, Foundations of the Seventh-day Adventist Message and Mission, 125.
Li [Ellen Harmon] te di: —Senyè a te montre m nan vizyon, sa fè plis pase yon ane, ke Frè Crosier te gen vrè limyè a konsènan netwayaj Tanp lan, elatriye; e ke se te volonte Li pou Frè C. te ekri opinyon li te ban nou an nan Day Star Extra, 7 fevriye 1846. Mwen santi m gen tout otorizasyon Senyè a, pou m rekòmande Extra sa a bay chak sen’ (Lèt. E. G. White bay Curtis, Word to the Little Flock, 12). Advantis Setyèm Jou yo, anjeneral, te entèprete deklarasyon sa a pou vle di ke prezantasyon Crosier yo pa t san erè, men ke prensipal agimantasyon tipolojik li a te kòrèk. Reenpresyon atik la te omèt aspè yo te santi ki pa t egzat yo.” P. Gerard Damsteegt, Foundations of the Seventh-day Adventist Message and Mission, 125.
Never Could Reprint His Complete Document
Li pa t janm kapab re-enprime dokiman konplè li a.
Now, on the next page you have W. A. Spicer giving testimony to the same thing: They always knew that Crosier's articles had error in them, and they never reprinted those four sections.
Koulye a, nan paj ki vin apre a, nou jwenn W. A. Spicer k ap rann temwayaj sou menm pwen an: Yo te toujou konnen atik Crosier yo te genyen erè ladan yo, e yo pa t janm reimprime kat seksyon sa yo.
"Sad to say, young Crosier walked in the light of the Sabbath truth but a very little time. He later repudiated the sanctuary teaching that he had helped to establish. Our pioneer brethren reprinted his exposition on the sanctuary several times in their early papers, but they never could reprint his complete document. In it he had added to the sanctuary exposition some ideas on the age to come a temporal millennium, with a glorious age on this earth at the Second Advent. These things our brethren always omitted. These teachings of the age to come were all abroad in those days. The doctrine never fitted in with the definite advent message; and doubtless this leaven of error helped to lead the younger men away from the Sabbath and the sanctuary truths. He soon turned to bitter opposition to our early movement." W. A. Spicer, Review and Herald, December 14, 1939
"Sa fè lapenn pou nou di sa, jèn Crosier te mache nan limyè verite Saba a sèlman pou yon trè kout tan. Apre sa, li te rejte ansèyman sou sanktyè a ke li te ede etabli. Frè pyonye nou yo te repibliye plizyè fwa ekspozisyon li sou sanktyè a nan premye jounal yo, men yo pa t janm kapab repibliye dokiman li an antye. Nan li menm, li te ajoute ak ekspozisyon sou sanktyè a kèk ide sou tan k ap vini an, yon milenyòm tanporèl, avèk yon epòk gloriye sou tè sa a nan Dezyèm Avènman an. Bagay sa yo, frè nou yo te toujou omèt yo. Ansèyman sa yo konsènan tan k ap vini an te gaye toupatou nan jou sa yo. Doktrin nan pa t janm ann amoni ak mesaj avènman an ki te byen defini; e san dout ledven erè sa a te ede mennen jèn gason yo lwen verite Saba a ak verite sanktyè a. Byento li te tounen yon opozan anmè kont mouvman nou an nan kòmansman li." W. A. Spicer, Review and Herald, 14 desanm 1939
The point is, there are those people today that take Sister White's endorsement of Crosier's article in A Word to the Little Flock, people like Heidi Heikes, Heidi Heikes with his foolish book about the Daily being Christ's Sanctuary ministry. This is one of his arguments.
Sa vle di, gen moun jodi a ki pran apwobasyon Sister White te bay atik Crosier la nan *A Word to the Little Flock*, moun tankou Heidi Heikes, Heidi Heikes ak liv san sajès li sou kesyon “Daily” a kòm ministè Kris nan Tanp li. Sa a se youn nan agiman li yo.
People that do this are disregarding the historical facts. They never could reprint all of Crosier's articles. And to insist that Ellen White's endorsement in A Word to the Little Flock is a blanket endorsement of Crosier's position is to insist that Adventists believe that there is going to be a thousand years of peace. It is a foolish argument.
Moun ki fè sa ap neglije reyalite istorik yo. Yo pa t janm kapab reimprime tout atik Crosier yo. Epi pou ensiste ke apwobasyon Ellen White te bay nan A Word to the Little Flock la se yon apwobasyon san rezèv pou pozisyon Crosier la, se tankou ensiste ke Advantis yo kwè pral gen mil ane lapè. Sa se yon agiman san sajès.
It is a misrepresentation of history, and it is done to deceive people and to produce confusion and darkness.
Se yon fo prezantasyon listwa, e sa fèt pou twonpe moun epi pou pwodui konfizyon ak fènwa.
So, you have two historians, Spicer who is deceased and Damsteegt who is still alive; but, I guarantee you, Spicer or Damsteegt, neither one of them, would agree with me with what I present. Okay, they would not. So, you have two antagonistic historians that are in agreement with what I am telling you. There is no justification whatsoever for taking Ellen White's endorsement of Crosier's article to mean that everything in it was perfect.
Donk, ou gen de istoryen, Spicer ki mouri ak Damsteegt ki toujou vivan; men, mwen garanti nou, ni Spicer ni Damsteegt, youn ladan yo pa t ap dakò avè m sou sa m ap prezante a. Dakò, yo pa t ap dakò. Konsa, ou gen de istoryen opozan ki dakò ak sa m ap di nou an. Pa gen okenn jistifikasyon ditou pou pran apwobasyon Ellen White te bay atik Crosier la kòm siyifi ke tout sa ki ladan l te pafè.
The Advent Review—Volume 1, Auburn NY, Number 3
Revi Adventis la—Volim 1, Auburn, NY, Nimewo 3
The Advent Review—Volume 1, Auburn NY, Number 4
Advent Review—Volim 1, Auburn, NY, Nimewo 4
The Advent Review—Volume 1, Auburn NY, Number Special
Advent Review la—Volim 1, Auburn, NY, Nimewo espesyal
When James White began to print Crosier's article in September of 1850, of The Review and Herald, that was Volume 1, Number 3
Lè James White te kòmanse enprime atik Crosier la nan mwa septanm 1850, nan The Review and Herald, se te Volim 1, Nimewo 3.
But, he could not get it all in Volume 1, Number 3; so, he finished off the article in Volume 1 of The Review and Herald,, Number 4. And when did he do this? In September of 1850.
Men, li pa t kapab mete tout bagay nan Volim 1, Nimewo 3; konsa, li te fini atik la nan Volim 1 The Review and Herald,, Nimewo 4. E kilè li te fè sa? Nan mwa septanm 1850.
Well, what happened in September of 1850? Sister White had a vision that says, "September 23, 1850 the Lord showed me . . . . When union existed, before 1844, nearly all were united on the correct view of the —Daily;' but since 1844, in the confusion, other views have been embraced, and darkness and confusion has followed. The Review and Herald, November 1850."
Bon, ki sa ki te pase nan mwa septanm 1850? Sè White te resevwa yon vizyon ki di konsa: “23 septanm 1850, Senyè a te montre m . . . . Lè inyon te egziste, anvan 1844, prèske tout moun te ini sou bon konpreyansyon konsènan ‘Sakrifis tout tan an’; men depi 1844, nan konfizyon an, yo te anbrase lòt opinyon, e fènwa ak konfizyon te swiv. The Review and Herald, novanm 1850.”
Who was her husband? He was the editor of The Review and Herald.
Kilès ki te mari li? Se li menm ki te editè The Review and Herald.
So, what did he do when his wife said, "Do you know what I just was told by the Lord, James? I was told that we were not supposed to be introducing the views of the Daily that contradict the Pioneer understanding that the Daily is Paganism, because it is bringing darkness and confusion."
Kidonk, kisa li te fè lè madanm li te di: «Èske w konnen sa Senyè a fèk di m, James? Yo te di m ke nou pa t sipoze ap prezante opinyon sou “Daily” a ki kontredi konpreyansyon Pyonye yo, selon ki “Daily” a se Paganis, paske sa ap pote fènwa ak konfizyon.»
So, what did James White do? In September of 1850 he printed another Review and Herald, three in one month. It is called Volume 1, Special Edition.
Kidonk, ki sa James White te fè? Nan mwa septanm 1850, li te enprime yon lòt Review and Herald, twa nan yon sèl mwa. Yo rele l Volim 1, Edisyon Espesyal.
And what did he do? He reprinted Crosier's article and removed what Crosier said about the Daily!
Epi ki sa li te fè? Li te repibliye atik Crosier la epi li te retire sa Crosier te di konsènan Sakrifis Kontinyèl la!
Brothers and Sisters, this is historical proof that James and Ellen White understood that Crosier's view about the Daily was wrong and that it brought darkness and confusion.
Frè ak Sè, sa a se yon prèv istorik ki montre Jak ak Ellen White te konprann opinyon Crosier sou Sakrifis Kontinyèl la te erè, e li te pote tenèb ak konfizyon.
And what was Crosier's view about the Daily? That it was Christ's Sanctuary ministry.
E ki pwennvi Crosier te genyen konsènan “sakrifis tout tan an”? Se te sèvis Kris la nan Tanp li a.
So, in Early Writings, 74, when she says, "September 23rd, the Lord showed me that the Millerites had the correct view of the Daily," the historical evidence is that the Millerites understood—
Konsa, nan Early Writings, 74, lè li di: “23 Septanm, Senyè a te montre m ke Millerites yo te gen bon konpreyansyon sou Daily a,” prèv istorik la se ke Millerites yo te konprann—
Now, Brothers and Sisters, Brothers and Sisters, do not miss this fact: What is this: September 1850 Sister White is shown that since 1844 other views of the Daily had been embraced; May 1850, Arnold presents the Daily as the Jewish sanctuary; September 1850, part 1 of 2 of Crosier's article is published, inclusive of his presentation of the Daily as Christ's Sanctuary ministry; September 1850, part 2 of 2 of Crosier's article is published; September 1850, Crosier's article is reprinted, but his view on the Daily has been removed? What is taking place?
Koulye a, Frè m ak Sè m yo, Frè m ak Sè m yo, pa rate reyalite sa a: Kisa sa vle di: Nan mwa septanm 1850, yo montre Sè White ke depi 1844 yo te deja adopte lòt opinyon sou Daily a; nan mwa me 1850, Arnold prezante Daily a kòm Tanp jwif la; nan mwa septanm 1850, pati 1 sou 2 nan atik Crosier la pibliye, sa ki gen ladan prezantasyon li sou Daily a kòm ministè Kris la nan Tanp lan; nan mwa septanm 1850, pati 2 sou 2 nan atik Crosier la pibliye; nan mwa septanm 1850, yo repibliye atik Crosier la, men yo retire opinyon li sou Daily a? Kisa k ap fèt?
We see the same year that this 1850 Chart is produced, and what does this Chart say about the Daily? "Pagan Dominion or The DAILY taken away. Dan. 11:31 508."
Nou wè menm ane sa a yo pwodui Tablo 1850 sa a, e ki sa Tablo sa a di konsènan Chak Jou a? “Dominasyon payen oswa SAKRIFIS CHAK JOU a retire. Dan. 11:31 508.”
Ellen White knew what those who gave the Judgment Hour's cry position of the Daily was. When she says they had the correct view, she knew that the correct view was that it represented the Pagan Dominion being taken; the Daily represented Paganism.
Ellen White te konnen ki sa pozisyon sou “chak jou a” te ye lakay sila yo ki te bay kri Lè Jijman an. Lè li di yo te gen bon konpreyansyon an, li te konnen bon konpreyansyon an se te ke sa a te reprezante dominasyon payen an k ap retire; “chak jou a” te reprezante paganism.
And in this year, 1850, the historical record proves that she rejected and her husband rejected the teaching that the Daily represents Christ Sanctuary ministry, which is the teaching that the Biblical Research Institute of the Seventh-day Adventist Church upholds. It is the teaching that the self-supporting ministries, such as Heartland and Steps to Life support. It is the teaching that brings darkness and confusion.
Epi nan ane sa a, 1850, dosye istorik la pwouve ke li te rejte epi mari li te rejte ansèyman ki di ke “Daily” a reprezante ministè Kris nan Tanp lan, ki se ansèyman Enstiti Rechèch Biblik Legliz Advantis Setyèm Jou a soutni. Se ansèyman ministè oto-sipòte yo, tankou Heartland ak Steps to Life, soutni. Se ansèyman ki pote fènwa ak konfizyon.
Now, notice this concerning the 1850 Chart. This is in November of 1850. This is the same month that she has the vision that she records that ultimately goes through the evolution in 1851, and then in 1882 ends up in Early Writing, in this very month, in this very month, in November of 1850. It says,
Koulye a, remake sa konsènan Tablo 1850 la. Sa se nan mwa novanm 1850. Se menm mwa sa a li resevwa vizyon li ekri a, vizyon ki finalman pase atravè devlopman li an 1851, epi apre sa, an 1882, li rive nan Early Writing, nan menm mwa sa a menm, nan mwa novanm 1850. Li di,
"Monday we returned to Dorchester where our dear Brother Nichols and family live."—
«Lendi nou tounen Dorchester kote chè Frè Nichols nou an ak fanmi li rete.»
Right up here [referring to the 1850 Chart, upper right-hand corner], "Published by Otis Nichols, Dorchester, Massachusetts." Okay? She is talking about this, right? Do you see it, this Chart?
Jis anlè la a [an referans ak Tablo 1850 la, nan kwen anwo adwat la], “Published by Otis Nichols, Dorchester, Massachusetts.” Dakò? Se de sa l ap pale a, pa vre? Èske nou wè li, Tablo sa a?
—"There in the night God gave me a very interesting vision, the most of which you will see in the paper. God shewed me the necessity of getting out a chart. I saw it was needed and that the truth made plain upon tables would effect much and would cause souls to come to the knowledge of the truth." Manuscript Releases, number 15, 210 November, 1850.
—«Là, durant la nuit, Dieu me donna une vision très intéressante, dont vous verrez la plus grande partie dans le document. Dieu me montra la nécessité de publier un tableau. Je vis que cela était nécessaire et que la vérité rendue claire sur des tables produirait beaucoup d’effet et amènerait des âmes à la connaissance de la vérité.» Manuscript Releases, numéro 15, 210, novembre 1850.
She had a vision at Nichols's house in Dorchester—that is all on this Chart—saying, "You need to make a chart."
Li te resevwa yon vizyon lakay Nichols nan Dorchester—se tout sa ki sou Tablo sa a—ki t ap di: “Nou bezwen fè yon tablo.”
And what does she say about the chart? How does she describe it?
Epi ki sa li di konsènan tablo a? Ki jan li dekri li?
Go to Habakkuk 2, "I saw the need of getting out a chart," and what would it do? It was needed, "that the truth made plain upon tables." Habakkuk 2, verse 2, says, "And the Lord answered me and said, Write the vision, and make it plain upon tables, . . . ." She is saying that this Otis Nichols 1850 Chart, printed in Dorchester, Massachusetts, is a fulfillment of Habakkuk, just like she says in The Great Controversy that the 1843 Chart is a fulfillment of Habakkuk.
Ale nan Abakik 2, “Mwen te wè nesesite pou yo pibliye yon tablo,” e kisa sa t ap fè? Li te nesesè, “pou verite a vin klè sou tablo.” Abakik 2, vèsè 2, di: “Epi Seyè a reponn mwen, li di: Ekri vizyon an, epi fè l klè sou tablo, . . . .” Li ap di ke Tablo Otis Nichols 1850 sa a, ki te enprime nan Dorchester, Massachusetts, se yon akonplisman Abakik, menm jan li di nan The Great Controversy ke Tablo 1843 a se yon akonplisman Abakik.
Okay, do you see that? Do you see when she got this vision? In the same time that this was going on: "September 23d, the Lord showed me . . . . that the teaching of the Daily as Christ's Sanctuary ministry brings darkness and confusion," and her husband immediately reprinted the article and removed those two paragraphs. It was never reprinted again in Adventism until 1931 when Willie White reprinted it; and, when he did so, he had some false witness in the very tract that he printed. It can be demonstrated.
Dakò, èske nou wè sa? Èske nou wè ki lè li te resevwa vizyon sa a? Nan menm tan kote sa t ap pase a: “23 septanm, Senyè a te montre m . . . . ke ansèyman sou Chak Jou a kòm ministè Kris nan Tanp li a pote tenèb ak konfizyon,” epi mari li te imedyatman reimprime atik la epi li te retire de paragraf sa yo. Yo pa t janm reimprime li ankò nan Advenis la jouk an 1931, lè Willie White te reimprime li; e, lè li te fè sa, te gen yon fo temwayaj nan menm ti liv li te enprime a. Sa kapab demontre.
Now, I want to read something here to you, a longer quote, about this same time period. This is from November 27, 1850.
Koulye a, mwen vle li yon bagay isit la pou nou, yon sitasyon ki pi long, konsènan menm peryòd tan sa a. Sa soti 27 novanm 1850.
"I have neglected writing you for some time. I will now give my reasons. First, I had no time to write for weeks after I received Sister Arabella's kind and welcome letter, or I should have complied with her request to have answered it within two weeks. I liked the letter very much. We were all interested in the letter and hope my delay will not prevent you from answering this as soon as you read it, and I will not wait so long next time.
“Mwen pa t ekri nou depi kèk tan. Kounye a, m ap ban nou rezon mwen. Premyèman, pandan plizyè semèn apre m te resevwa lèt janti ak byenveni Sè Arabella a, mwen pa t gen tan ekri; sinon, mwen ta deja satisfè demann li te fè pou yo te reponn li nan de semèn. Mwen te renmen lèt la anpil. Nou tout te enterese nan lèt la, e nou espere reta mwen an p ap anpeche nou reponn sa a tousuit lè nou fin li li; epi pwochen fwa a, mwen p ap fè nou tann konsa lontan.”
"James' and my health is quite good now. Our home is in Paris, at Brother Andrews', within a few steps of the post office and printing office. We shall stay here some little time. This is a very kind family, yet quite poor. Everything here is free as far as they have. We do not think it right to be any expense to them while here. I want to see you all very much and dear Sister Gorham.
Sante James ak pa m byen bon kounye a. Kay nou se nan Pari, lakay Frè Andrews, kèk pa sèlman depi biwo lapòs la ak biwo enprime a. N ap rete isit la pou yon ti tan. Sa a se yon fanmi ki gen anpil bonte, men ki byen pòv. Tout bagay isit la gratis, dapre sa yo genyen. Nou pa kwè li dwat pou nou ta lakòz yo okenn depans pandan nou isit la. Mwen anvi wè nou tout anpil, ansanm ak chè Sè Gorham.
"Our conference at Topsham was one of deep interest. Twenty-eight were present; all took part in the meeting.
“Konferans nou an nan Topsham te youn ki te gen yon enterè pwofon. Venndwit moun te prezan; tout te patisipe nan reyinyon an.
"Sunday the power of God came upon us like a mighty rushing wind. All arose upon their feet and praised God with a loud voice; it was something as it was when the foundation of the house of God was laid. The voice of weeping could not be told from the voice of shouting. It was a triumphant time; all were strengthened and refreshed. I never witnessed such a powerful time before.
Dimanch, pouvwa Bondye te desann sou nou tankou yon van fò k ap soufle avèk fòs. Tout moun leve kanpe sou pye yo epi yo t ap fè lwanj Bondye ak yon vwa fò; se te yon bagay menm jan ak lè yo te poze fondasyon kay Bondye a. Yo pa t ka distenge vwa moun k ap kriye a ak vwa moun k ap rele byen fò a. Se te yon tan triyonfan; tout moun te vin ranfòse epi rafrechi. Mwen pa t janm temwen yon tan ki tèlman pisan konsa anvan.
"Our next conference was in Fairhaven. Brother Bates and wife were present. It was quite a good meeting. On our return to Brother Nichols', the Lord gave me a vision and showed me that the truth must be made plain upon tables, and it would cause many to decide for the truth by the three angels' messages, with the two former being made plain upon tables."—
“Konferans pa nou ki te vini apre a te fèt Fairhaven. Frè Bates ak madanm li te la. Se te yon reyinyon ki te vrèman bon. Lè nou t ap retounen lakay Frè Nichols, Seyè a te ban m yon vizyon e li te montre m verite a dwe prezante klè sou tablo, e sa t ap fè anpil moun pran desizyon pou laverite grasa mesaj twa zanj yo, ak de premye yo ki te rann klè sou tablo.”—
That is right down here, [indicating the lower left corner of the 1850 Chart]. Okay? They are on this Chart, what she is talking about.
Sa se la, jis anba isit la, [ki montre kwen anba bò gòch Tablo 1850 la]. Dakò? Yo sou Tablo sa a, se de sa li ap pale.
—"I also saw it was as necessary for the paper to be published as for the messengers to go, for the messengers need a paper to carry with them, containing present truth, to put in the hands of those that hear, and then the truth would not fade from the mind, and that the paper would go where the messengers could not go. Other things I saw which will appear in the paper.
—“Mwen te wè tou li te nesesè menm jan pou jounal la pibliye tankou sa te nesesè pou mesaje yo ale, paske mesaje yo bezwen yon jounal pou pote avèk yo, ki gen verite pou tan sa a, pou mete nan men moun ki tande yo, epi konsa verite a pa t ap efase nan lespri yo, epi jounal la t ap rive kote mesaje yo pa t kapab rive. Lòt bagay mwen te wè yo pral parèt nan jounal la.
"How do you all get along? Are you all striving for eternal life? I want to see you very, very much and think I shall before long. Now is the preparation time and I hope we shall all make sure work for eternity. Time looks very short and what we do we must do quickly.
“Kijan nou tout ap dewoule? Èske nou tout ap fè efò pou lavi etènèl? Mwen anvi wè nou anpil, anpil, e mwen kwè sa pap pran lontan ankò. Kounye a se tan preparasyon an, e mwen espere nou tout pral fè yon travay ki sèten pou letènite. Tan an sanble trè kout, e sa nou gen pou nou fè, nou dwe fè l vit.”
"November 20, one week ago, Brother Henry Nichols and self went to Topsham. We had just risen from the dinner table Thursday [Nov. 21], when one of Brother Foey's children came in and said their mother was insensible. We hastened over the river one mile and found our dear Sister Foey dying. My distress was great as I found she did not know me. She continued long in great distress until between three and four o'clock and then breathed her last. She has left a husband and three children to mourn their loss.
“Le 20 novanm, sa fè yon semèn, Frè Henry Nichols ak mwen te ale Topsham. Nou te fèk leve sot bò tab dine a jedi [21 nov.], lè youn nan pitit Frè Foey yo antre epi li di manman yo te san konesans. Nou prese travèse rivyè a pou yon distans yon mil, epi nou jwenn chè Sè Foey nou an ap mouri. Gwo lapenn te anvayi m lè mwen wè li pa t rekonèt mwen. Li te kontinye pandan lontan nan gwo soufrans jouk ant twazè ak katrè, epi apre sa li rann dènye souf li. Li kite yon mari ak twa pitit pou yo kriye pèt yo.”
"Friday morning [Nov. 22], Brother Henry came to Paris for James to shave him to attend the funeral. We had a very solemn, interesting time. The Lord did not leave us but let His Spirit rest upon us. Sister Foey's last days were decidedly her most spiritual and best days. Brother Foey has this to console him, that she died a Christian. He bears up well. God gives him grace to endure the affliction. Oh, how good it is to have a hope in God that will sustain in all scenes of trial and affliction. Praise God for a hope, a good hope. What would you, any of you, give for your hope?
"Vandredi maten [22 novanm], Frè Henry te vini Pari pou James te raze l pou l te ale nan fineray la. Nou te pase yon tan ki te trè solanèl e ki te touche anpil. Senyè a pa t kite nou, men Li te fè Lespri Li repoze sou nou. Dènye jou Sè Foey yo te san mank jou ki te pi espirityèl li yo e pi bon jou li yo. Frè Foey gen sa pou konsole l, se ke li te mouri antanke yon kretyèn. Li kenbe fèm byen. Bondye ba li gras pou l sipòte aflìksyon an. O, jan sa bon pou gen yon espwa nan Bondye ki va soutni nan tout sèn eprèv ak aflìksyon. Lwanj pou Bondye pou yon espwa, yon bon espwa. Kisa ou menm, nenpòt nan nou, nou ta bay pou espwa nou an?"
"Hold fast the faith. Be strong in God and lean upon His everlasting arm. It will never fail you but will bear you up under every affliction. I hope you will all grow stronger and stronger in the truth. Do not falter but press your way to the kingdom."—
“Se pou nou kenbe lafwa fèm. Se pou nou gen fòs nan Bondye epi apiye nou sou bra etènèl li. Li p ap janm fè nou fayit, men l ap soutni nou anba tout afliksyon. Mwen espere nou tout ap vin pi djanm toujou nan verite a. Pa febli, men kontinye avanse sou chemen nou pou rive nan wayòm nan.”—
Here we go. Here is what I want you to see.
Men nou. Men sa mwen vle ou wè.
—"One week ago, last Sabbath, we had a very interesting meeting. Brother Hewit from Dead River was there. He came with a message to the effect that the destruction of the wicked and the sleep of the dead was an abomination within a shut door that a woman Jezebel, a prophetess had brought in and he believed that I was that woman, Jezebel."—
—«Sa fè yon semèn, dènye jou saba a, nou te gen yon reyinyon ki te trè enteresan. Frè Hewit soti Dead River te la. Li te vini ak yon mesaj ki te di an rezime ke destriksyon mechan yo ak dòmi mò yo se te yon abominasyon anndan yon pòt fèmen, yon fanm Jezabèl, yon pwofetès, te fè antre; epi li te kwè se mwen menm ki te fanm sa a, Jezabèl.»—
Okay? Brother Hewit is saying that Ellen White is Jezebel and she has introduced three errors.
Dakò? Frè Hewit ap di ke Ellen White se Jezabèl e li te entwodui twa erè.
"—We told him of some of his errors in the past, that the 1335 days were ended and numerous errors of his. It had but little effect. His darkness was felt upon the meeting and it dragged."—
«—Nou te pale avè l sou kèk nan erè li te fè nan tan pase a, ke 1335 jou yo te fini, ansanm ak anpil lòt erè pa li yo. Sa te gen trè piti efè. Fènwa li te santi sou reyinyon an, e li te trennen.»
Now, I want you to see this. I have something to say about this paragraph that I want you to follow, if you can.
Koulye a, mwen vle nou wè sa. Mwen gen yon bagay pou m di konsènan paragraf sa a ke mwen vle nou swiv, si nou kapab.
If you have ever dealt with those in Adventism that reapply the time prophecies at the end of the world, they only have three quotes that they use—they use lots of quotes, but they have three primary quotes that they use. This is one of them; because, they will go there and say, "We told him of some of his errors in the past," and they will claim that when she says "that the 1335 days were ended" that that was one of his errors. Do you see how you can kind of twist that grammar a little bit: "We told him of some of his errors in the past? We also told him that the 1335 days were ended; but the time setters say we told him some of his errors in the past and one of those errors was that you are teaching the 1335 days is ended and that is an error." So, you can twist it either way.
Si nou janm gen pou nou fè fas ak moun nan Advantis ki reaplike pwofesi tan yo nan fen mond lan, yo sèlman gen twa sitasyon yo sèvi avè yo—yo sèvi ak anpil sitasyon, men yo gen twa sitasyon prensipal yo sèvi avè yo. Men youn ladan yo; paske y ap ale la epi y ap di: “Nou te fè l konnen kèk nan erè li yo nan tan pase a,” epi y ap pretann ke lè li di “ke 1335 jou yo te fini,” sa te youn nan erè li yo. Èske nou wè kijan yon moun ka tòde gramè sa a yon ti jan: “Nou te fè l konnen kèk nan erè li yo nan tan pase a”? Nou te di l tou ke 1335 jou yo te fini; men sila yo k ap fikse tan yo di nou te fè l konnen kèk nan erè li yo nan tan pase a, epi youn nan erè sa yo se te ke w ap anseye 1335 jou yo fini, e sa se yon erè. Donk, ou ka tòde l nan nenpòt nan de sans yo.
The first time I had a face-to-face confrontation with Eugene Prewitt was in Oklahoma, and he is arguing that the Millerite History does not repeat at the end of the world, and I give him a couple of quotes in the Spirit of Prophecy.
Premye fwa mwen te gen yon konfwontasyon fasafas ak Eugene Prewitt se te nan Oklahoma, e li t ap diskite ke Istwa Millerit la pa repete nan fen mond lan, epi mwen ba li kèk sitasyon nan Lespri Pwofesi a.
And he says, "Jeff, you know that Ellen White was a careless writer."
Epi li di: “Jeff, ou konnen Ellen White te yon ekriven neglijan.”
And I said, "What do you mean?"
Epi mwen di: “Kisa ou vle di?”
And he went to this quote. He says that this quote proves that she is a careless writer; because she knows that I know that the time setters can twist this quote, if they wish to.
Epi li ale nan sitasyon sa a. Li di sitasyon sa a pwouve li se yon ekriven ki neglijan; paske li konnen mwen konnen moun k ap fikse dat yo ka tòde sitasyon sa a, si yo vle.
Now, the fact that someplace like Washita has the influence that teaches its students that Ellen White is a careless writer is one thing; but, is she a careless writer here?
Koulye a, lefètke yon kote tankou Washita gen enfliyans ki anseye etidyan li yo ke Ellen White se yon ekriven neglijan, se yon bagay; men, èske li se yon ekriven neglijan isit la?
—"I felt that I must say a few words. In the name of Jesus, I got up and in about five minutes the meeting changed. Everyone felt it at the same instant. Every countenance was lighted up. The presence of God filled the place. Brother Hewit dropped upon his knees and began to cry and pray. I was taken off in vision and saw much that I cannot write. It had a great effect upon Brother Hewit. He confessed it was of God and was humbled in the dust. He has been writing ever since that meeting, and is now writing from the same table renouncing all his errors that he has advanced. I believe God is bringing him up and he is calculated to do good, if God moves through him.
—«Mwen te santi mwen dwe di kèk mo. Nan non Jezi, mwen leve kanpe, e nan anviwon senk minit reyinyon an chanje. Tout moun te santi sa menm lè a. Tout figi te vin klere. Prezans Bondye te ranpli plas la. Frè Hewit tonbe ajenou e li kòmanse kriye ak lapriyè. Mwen te pran an vizyon e mwen wè anpil bagay mwen pa ka ekri. Sa te gen yon gwo efè sou Frè Hewit. Li te rekonèt sa soti nan Bondye e li te imilye jouk nan pousyè a. Depi reyinyon sa a li ap ekri san rete, e kounye a li menm ap ekri soti sou menm tab la pou renonse tout erè li te soutni yo. Mwen kwè Bondye ap leve l, e li fèt pou fè byen, si Bondye aji atravè li. »
"Much love to dear Sister Gorham. Tell her to be strong. God is with her and He will not leave her. Much love to you all. I hope the children will not get sleepy, but will be interested in the truth and be diligent to make their calling and election sure. Write, be sure and write, and do not do as I have done. I love you, all of you. Write." Manuscript Releases, volume 16, 206–209. Written from Paris, Maine, November 27, 1850.
« Anpil lanmou pou chè Sè Gorham. Di li pou l rete djanm. Bondye avèk li e Li p ap abandone li. Anpil lanmou pou nou tout. Mwen espere timoun yo p ap vin anvi dòmi, men yo va enterese nan verite a epi yo va dilijan pou rann apèl yo ak eleksyon yo sèten. Ekri, wi, pa manke ekri, epi pa fè jan mwen te fè a. Mwen renmen nou, nou tout. Ekri. » Manuscript Releases, volim 16, 206–209. Ekri depi Paris, Maine, 27 novanm 1850.
Brothers and Sisters, what is the historical context of this; where is she writing this at? She is writing this in 1850, in Brother Nichols's house.
Frè ak Sè yo, ki kontèks istorik sa a ye; ki kote li ap ekri sa? Li ap ekri sa an 1850, lakay Frè Nichols.
In this time period, what is the Lord doing? He is showing that the Pioneers have the correct view of the Daily, and she is dealing with that. She is saying that Christ's Sanctuary ministry is the false view of the Daily.
Nan peryòd tan sa a, kisa Seyè a ap fè? Li ap montre ke Pyonye yo gen bon konpreyansyon sou “Chak Jou” a, epi li ap trete kesyon sa a. Li ap di ke ministè Kris la nan Tanp Sanktyè a se fo opinyon sou “Chak Jou” a.
In this history, this very history—not this very history and not just the very year, but the very month of the year she is getting visions and she is clarifying this truth about the Pioneer position of the Daily, saying those that gave the Judgment Hour Cry had the correct view of the Daily; and, in the same paragraph, she says, "I saw that the 1843 Chart was directed by the hand of the Lord and it should not be altered and that those that gave the Judgment Hour Cry had the correct view of the Daily."
Nan istwa sa a, se istwa sa a menm—pa sèlman istwa sa a menm, e pa sèlman ane sa a menm, men menm mwa nan ane a kote li ap resevwa vizyon yo e li ap klarifye verite sa a konsènan pozisyon Pyonye yo sou “Daily” a, li di ke sila yo ki te bay Rèl Lè Jijman an te gen bon konpreyansyon sou “Daily” a; epi, nan menm paragraf la, li di: “Mwen te wè ke Tablo 1843 a te dirije pa men Senyè a e li pa t dwe chanje, e ke sila yo ki te bay Rèl Lè Jijman an te gen bon konpreyansyon sou ‘Daily’ a.”
And what does it say about the Daily on this 1843 Chart? Well, it says that it was taken away in AD508; and, at 1335 years later brings you to 1843 and that the 1335 is in the past.
E kisa li di konsènan Sakrifis Kontinyèl la sou Tablo 1843 sa a? Ebyen, li di ke yo te retire l an 508 aprè Jezikri; epi, 1335 ane pi ta sa mennen w rive an 1843, e ke 1335 la se yon bagay ki deja pase.
Can you imagine, in the very month, in the very year, that she would tell Brother Hewit from Dead River that it was still future?
Èske nou ka imajine, nan menm mwa a, nan menm ane a, ke li t ap di Frè Hewit, ki soti Dead River, ke sa te toujou gen pou vini?
Okay, these time setters, these time setters, and these people that believe that Sister White is a careless writer. History does not uphold this.
Dakò, moun sa yo k ap fikse dat yo, moun sa yo k ap fikse dat yo, ansanm ak moun sa yo ki kwè Sè White se yon ekriven neglijan. Istwa pa soutni sa.
So, I want you to see, in connection with the Daily, Ellen White even understood the 1335.
Se konsa, mwen vle nou wè ke, an rapò ak Sakrifis Chak Jou a, Ellen White te menm konprann 1335 la.
Ellen White just did not put her seal of approval on the Daily being Paganism; she understood that it started the 1335-year prophecy, which ended in 1843, and she defended that position in public against Brother Hewit from Dead River. Do you see that?
Ellen White pa t sèlman mete so apwobasyon li sou lefèt ke « Daily » a se te Paganis; li te konprann tou ke sa te make kòmansman pwofesi 1335 ane a, ki te fini an 1843, epi li te defann pozisyon sa a an piblik kont Frè Hewit ki soti Dead River. Èske ou wè sa?
And in the same month, where she is saying that Christ's Sanctuary ministry as the Daily only brings darkness and confusion; and, her husband, in response to that vision, removes that teaching from the Review and Herald.
Epi nan menm mwa a, pandan li ap di ke ministè Kris la nan Tanp li kòm Sakrifis Toutan an sèlman pote fènwa ak konfizyon; epi mari li, an repons a vizyon sa a, retire ansèyman sa a nan Review and Herald.
Up here in your notes, where it says "1850 Chart," this is what it says right here [referring to the third column from the left on the 1850 Chart, the text following Jesus on the cross in AD31]. I wanted you to be able to have it in your notes.
Anwo nan nòt nou yo, kote li di «Tablo 1850», men sa li di la a menm [li fè referans ak twazyèm kolòn nan apati bò gòch sou Tablo 1850 la, tèks ki vini apre Jezi sou kwa a nan AD31]. Mwen te vle pou nou kapab genyen sa nan nòt nou yo.
Away Daniel 11:31 508
Lwen Danyèl 11:31 508
And then on the 1843 Chart over here [referring to the center column, underneath Jesus on the cross in AD31]:
Epi answit sou Tablo 1843 la isit la [li ap fè referans ak kolòn ki nan mitan an, anba Jezi sou kwa a nan AD31]:
Taking away of the daily sacrifice. Dan. 12:11, 12
Retire sakrifis chak jou a. Dàn. 12:11, 12
Okay, these are these two Charts.
Dakò, men de Tablo sa yo.
Sister White understood that these men had the correct view, and she understood that it initiated the 1335-year prophecy that ended in 1843; and, she understood that it represented the Pagan Dominion being taken away in 508.
Sè White te konprann ke mesye sa yo te gen opinyon ki kòrèk la, epi li te konprann ke sa te inisye pwofesi 1335 ane a ki te fini an 1843; epi, li te konprann ke sa te reprezante dominasyon payen an ki te retire an 508.
Under these two references to the Charts you have another quote in the time period of Brother Nichols, and she is rebuking people from making other charts because their artwork is satanic; whereas, she says that the artwork upon these two Charts is heavenly. She says,
Anba de referans sa yo a Tablo yo, nou gen yon lòt sitasyon nan peryòd tan Frè Nichols la, e li ap reprimande moun paske yo t ap fè lòt tablo, paske travay atistik yo a se satanik; tandiske, li di ke travay atistik ki sou de Tablo sa yo se selès. Li di,
"I saw the chart-making business was all wrong. It originated with Brother Rhodes and was followed out by Brother Case. Means has been spent in making charts and forming uncouth disgusting images to represent angels and the glorious Jesus. Such things I saw were displeasing to God. I saw that God was in the publishment of the chart by Brother Nichols."—
“Mwen te wè zafè fè tablo yo te toutafè nan erè. Sa te soti lakay Frè Rhodes, epi Frè Case te suiv li nan sa. Yo depanse mwayen pou fè tablo ak fòme imaj brit, degoutan, pou reprezante zanj yo ak Jezi gloriye a. Mwen te wè bagay konsa pa t fè Bondye plezi. Mwen te wè Bondye te nan piblikasyon tablo a pa Frè Nichols.”
Who was in the publishment of this 1850 Chart? God!
Kiyès ki te nan piblikasyon Tablo 1850 sa a? Bondye!
—"I saw that there was"—what?—"a prophecy of this chart in the Bible, and if this chart is designed for God's people, if it [is] sufficient for one it is for another, and if one needed a new chart painted on a larger scale, all need it just as much.
—« Mwen te wè ke te gen »—kisa?—« yon pwofesi sou tablo sa a nan Bib la, e si tablo sa a fèt pou pèp Bondye a, si li ase pou youn, li ase pou yon lòt tou, epi si youn te bezwen yon nouvo tablo pentire sou yon echèl ki pi laj, tout moun bezwen li menm jan an. »
"I saw that it was a restless, uneasy, unsatisfied, ungrateful feeling in Brother Case that desired another chart. I saw that these painted charts had a bad effect upon the congregation. It caused a light, chaffy spirit of ridicule to be in the meeting."—
Mwen te wè se te yon santiman ajite, malèz, pa satisfè, engra nan Frè Case ki t ap anvi yon lòt tablo. Mwen te wè tablo sa yo ki te pentire yo te gen yon move efè sou kongregasyon an. Sa te lakòz yon lespri lejè, frivòl, plen rizib, prezan nan reyinyon an."—
Now, this is the one that I want you to think through.
Kounye a, se sou pwen sa a mwen vle nou reflechi byen.
—"I saw that the charts ordered by God struck the mind favorably, even without an explanation."—
—«Mwen te wè ke tablo Bondye te bay lòd pou fèt yo te frape lespri a yon fason favorab, menm san okenn eksplikasyon.»—
"I saw that the charts," plural, "ordered by God . . . ." What charts, in the plural, were ordered by God? These two Charts [the 1843 and 1850 Charts] were ordered by God."
“Mwen wè se tablo yo,” nan pliryèl, “Bondye te òdone . . . .” Ki tablo, nan pliryèl, Bondye te òdone? Se de tablo sa yo [Tablo 1843 ak 1850] Bondye te òdone.
These two Charts are a fulfillment of Habakkuk 2.
De Tablo sa yo se yon akonplisman Abakik 2.
—"There is something light, lovely, and heavenly in the representation of the angels on the charts. The mind is almost imperceptibly led to God and heaven. But the other charts that have been gotten up disgust the mind, and cause the mind to dwell more on earth than heaven. Images representing angels look more like fiends than beings of heaven. I saw that the charts had for days and weeks occupied Brother Case's mind when he should have been seeking heavenly wisdom from God, and should have been growing in graces of the Spirit and the knowledge of the truth.
—“Gen yon bagay ki lejè, bèl, epi selès nan fason zanj yo reprezante sou tablo yo. Lespri a prèske san l pa remake sa, vin dirije vè Bondye ak syèl la. Men lòt tablo yo ki te prepare yo fè lespri a degoute, epi yo fè lespri a rete plis sou tè a pase sou syèl la. Imaj ki reprezante zanj yo sanble plis ak demon pase ak èt ki soti nan syèl la. Mwen te wè ke pandan plizyè jou ak plizyè semèn tablo yo te okipe lespri Frè Case, alòske li te dwe ap chèche sajès selès nan men Bondye, e li te dwe ap grandi nan gras Lespri a ak nan konesans laverite a.”
"I saw that if the means that has been wasted in getting out charts had been spent in getting out the truth clear before the brethren in publishing tracts, etc., it would have done much good and saved souls. I saw that the chart-making business has spread like the fever." Manuscript Releases, number 13, 359; 1853.
Mwen te wè ke si mwayen yo ki te gaspiye pou fè soti tablo yo te depanse pou fè verite a parèt klè devan frè yo nan pibliye ti liv, elatriye, sa t ap fè anpil byen e li t ap sove nanm. Mwen te wè ke zafè fè tablo a gaye tankou lafyèv. Manuscript Releases, nimewo 13, 359; 1853.
The 1290 and 1335 Days
1290 ak 1335 Jou yo
I have following an article from the Review and Herald, January 28, 1858. The reason I have it in your notes is because you can see that in 1858 they are still teaching that the Daily is Paganism. You have it in your reference, eight years after 1850 they still understand the Daily is Paganism.
Mwen genyen atik sa a ki soti nan Review and Herald, 28 janvye 1858. Rezon ki fè mwen mete l nan nòt nou yo se paske nou kapab wè ke, an 1858, yo te toujou ap anseye ke “Daily” a se Paganis. Nou genyen l nan referans nou an: uit ane apre 1850, yo te toujou konprann ke “Daily” a se Paganis.
"ANOTHER important prophetic period upon which the Advent doctrine is based, is the 1335 days of Daniel 12, with which the 1290 days are so intimately connected. These two periods are introduced to us as follows:
“YON LÒT peryòd pwofetik enpòtan sou ki doktrin Advantis la baze, se 1335 jou yo nan Danyèl 12 la, avèk ki 1290 jou yo mare tèlman sere. De peryòd sa yo prezante devan nou konsa:”
"—And from the time that the daily (sacrifice) shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. Blessed is he that waiteth and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days. But go thou thy way till the end be; for thou shalt rest and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.' Daniel 12:11–13.
“—E depi lè yo va wete sakrifis kontinyèl la, epi mete kanpe abominasyon ki fè dezolasyon an, va gen mil de san katrevendis jou. Benediksyon pou moun ki tann, e ki rive jouk nan mil twasan trantsenk jou yo. Men, ou menm, ale fè chemen ou jouk lafen an rive; paske ou va repoze, epi ou va kanpe nan pòsyon pa ou nan fen jou yo.” Danyèl 12:11–13.
"The questions at once arise, Can we tell what the events are, from which these periods are to be dated; and if so, can we tell when they took place? We first enquire. What is the—'daily' (sacrifice) and the —abomination that maketh desolate'? It will be noticed that the word, sacrifice, is in italics: denoting that it is a supplied word. The same will be noticed in the other instances of its occurrence in the book of Daniel, viz., chapter 11:31 and 8:11–13. Let us briefly refer to this latter chapter. In verse 13 it will be observed that two desolations are brought to view; the daily (desolation,) and the transgression of desolation. This fact is made so plain by Josiah Litch that we cannot do better than quote his language:*
Kesyon yo leve tousuit: Èske nou kapab di ki evènman sa yo ye, apati de yo menm peryòd sa yo dwe kòmanse konte; e si se konsa, èske nou kapab di ki lè yo te rive? Nou premye poze kesyon sa a: Kisa “chak jou a” (sakrifis la) ye, e kisa “abominasyon ki lakòz dezolasyon an” ye? N ap remake mo sakrifis la ekri an italik, sa ki montre se yon mo yo ajoute. Menm bagay la ap remake nan lòt kote li parèt nan liv Danyèl la, sètadi chapit 11:31 ak 8:11–13. Ann fè yon ti referans tou kout ak dènye chapit sa a. Nan vèsè 13 la, n ap wè yo mete devan nou de dezolasyon: “chak jou a” (dezolasyon an), ak transgresyon dezolasyon an. Josiah Litch fè reyalite sa a tèlman klè, nou pa ta ka fè miyò pase site pawòl li yo:*
"—The daily sacrifice is the present reading of the text; but no such thing as sacrifice is found in the original. This is acknowledged on all hands. It is a gloss or construction put upon it by the translators. The true reading is, "the daily and the transgression of desolation;" daily and transgression being connected together by "and" the daily desolation and the transgression of desolation. They are two desolating powers which were to desolate the Sanctuary and the host.'
—Sakrifis chak jou a se lekti tèks la jan li parèt kounye a; men pa gen anyen tankou sakrifis nan tèks orijinal la. Sa rekonèt toupatou. Se yon glòs oubyen yon entèpretasyon tradiktè yo mete sou li. Vrè lekti a se: “sa ki chak jou a ak transgresyon dezolasyon an”; “sa ki chak jou a” ak “transgresyon” yo mare ansanm pa “ak” la: dezolasyon chak jou a ak transgresyon dezolasyon an. Se de pouvwa k ap dezole ki te dwe dezole Tanp lan ak lame a.
"From this it is evident that the —daily,' can have no reference to the Jewish worship to which it has been applied by the older and more prevalent opinion; and this is further evident from the consideration that if these periods, taken either literally or figuratively, be dated from any taking away of this worship, they do not bring us to any event whatever worthy of note.
Soti nan sa a, li klè ke “chak jou a” pa ka gen okenn rapò ak adorasyon jwif la, jan ansyen opinyon ki pi gaye a te aplike l la; e sa vin pi klè toujou lè nou konsidere ke si peryòd sa yo, kit yo pran yo literalman oswa senbolikman, ta kòmanse depi nenpòt retire adorasyon sa a, yo pa mennen nou rive nan okenn evènman ditou ki merite pou yo remake.
"The daily and the abomination then, are two desolating powers which were to oppress the church: can we ascertain what these powers are? We have only to adopt William Miller's method of reasoning on this point to arrive at the same conclusion with him. He says:
“Lè sa a, sèvis chak jou a ansanm ak abominasyon an se de pouvwa k ap fè dezolasyon ki te dwe peze legliz la: èske nou ka detèmine ki sa pouvwa sa yo ye? Nou pa bezwen fè lòt bagay pase adopte metòd rezònman William Miller sou pwen sa a pou nou rive nan menm konklizyon avè l. Li di:”
"—I read on, and could find no other case in which if [the daily] was found but in Daniel. I then [by the aid of a concordance] took those words which stood in connection with it, —take away;' —he shall take away the daily'; —from the time that the daily shall be taken away'; &c. I read on and thought I should find no light on the text. Finally I came to 2 Thessalonians 2:7, 8, —For the mystery of iniquity doth already work; only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way, and then shall that wicked be revealed.'&c. And when I had come to that text, O, how clear and glorious the truth appeared! There it is! That is —the daily!' Well, now, what does Paul mean by —he who now letteth' or hindereth? By —the Man of Sin,' and the —wicked,' Popery is meant. Well what is it which hinders Popery from being revealed? Why it is Paganism. Well, then, —the daily' must mean Paganism.'+
"—Mwen kontinye li, epi mwen pa t ka jwenn okenn lòt ka kote si [sakrifis kontinyèl la] te parèt, eksepte sèlman nan Danyèl. Lè sa a, [avèk èd yon konkòdans] mwen pran mo ki te parèt an koneksyon avèk li yo, —retire;’ —l ap retire sakrifis kontinyèl la’; —depi lè yo va retire sakrifis kontinyèl la’; elatriye. Mwen te kontinye li, epi mwen te panse mwen pa t ap jwenn okenn limyè sou tèks la. Finalman mwen rive nan 2 Tesalonisyen 2:7, 8, —Paske mistè inikite a deja ap aji; sèlman, sila a ki kounye a anpeche a ap kontinye anpeche jiskaske yo retire l nan chemen an, epi lè sa a mechan sa a va parèt.’ elatriye. E lè mwen te rive nan tèks sa a, o, jan verite a te parèt klè e gloriyeu! Men li! Se sa ki —sakrifis kontinyèl la!’ Bon, kounye a, kisa Pòl vle di pa —sila a ki kounye a anpeche’ oubyen mete obstak? Pa —Nonm Peche a,’ ak —mechan an,’ se Papis la yo vle di. Bon, kisa li ye ki anpeche Papis la parèt? Poukisa, se Paganis. Donk, —sakrifis kontinyèl la’ dwe vle di Paganis.’+"
"We see from Daniel 8, that it is the little horn, which succeeded the goat, or Grecian empire, that takes away the —daily;' and it is the only power brought to view after the division of Alexander's kingdom down to the time when the Sanctuary should be cleansed at the end of the 2300 days. This little horn we have in its proper place showed to be Rome taken as a unit, corresponding with the fourth kingdom of Daniel's other visions. Now it is a fact that a change did take place in the Roman power from Paganism to Papacy. Paganism from the days of the Assyrian kings down to the time of its modification into Popery, had been the daily, or as Professor Whiting renders it, —the continual' desolation, by which Satan had stood up against the cause of Jehovah. In its priests, its altars and its sacrifices, it bore resemblance to the Levitical form of Jehovah's worship; but when the Levitical gave place to the Christian form of worship, Satan, in order to successfully oppose the work, must change also his form of opposition; hence the temples, altars and statues of Paganism are baptized into the blasphemies of Popery.
“Nou wè nan Danyèl 8 ke se ti kòn nan, ki te vin apre bouk la, oswa anpi grèk la, ki retire —sakrifis tout tan an;’ e se sèl pouvwa yo mete devan je nou apre divizyon wayòm Aleksann nan jouk rive nan tan kote Tanp lan ta dwe pirifye nan fen 2300 jou yo. Ti kòn sa a, nou te montre nan plas ki apwopriye pa li, se Wòm pran kòm yon inite, ki koresponn ak katriyèm wayòm nan lòt vizyon Danyèl yo. Kounye a, se yon reyalite ke yon chanjman te fèt nan pouvwa women an, soti nan Paganis pou rive nan Papote. Paganis, depi nan jou wa Lasiri yo jouk rive nan tan lè li te modifye pou tounen Papis, te sakrifis tout tan an, oswa, jan Pwofesè Whiting tradui li, —dezolasyon kontinyèl la,’ pa mwayen ki Satan te leve kont kòz Jewova a. Nan prèt li yo, lotèl li yo ak sakrifis li yo, li te pote yon resanblans ak fòm levitik adorasyon Jewova a; men lè fòm levitik la te bay plas li bay fòm kretyen adorasyon an, Satan, pou l te ka avèk siksè opoze travay la, te dwe chanje fòm opozisyon pa li tou; se poutèt sa tanp, lotèl ak estati Paganis yo te batize nan blasfèm Papote yo.
"But the daily, Paganism, is said in the prophecy, to have a sanctuary, and the place of its sanctuary was to be cast down. That a sanctuary is frequently connected with idolatry and heathenism, as the place of its devotion and worship, is evident from the following scriptures: Isaiah 16:12; Amos 7:9, 13, margin. Ezekiel 28:18. Concerning the sanctuary of the daily of Daniel 8, we offer the following from Apollos Hale:*
“Men, dapre pwofesi a, yo di sou sèvis kontinyèl la, Pèganis la, ke li te gen yon sanktyè, e plas sanktyè li a te dwe jete atè. Ke yon sanktyè souvan lye ak idolatri ak payanis, kòm kote devouman ak adorasyon li yo, sa parèt klè nan pasaj sa yo nan Ekriti yo: Ezayi 16:12; Amòs 7:9, 13, maj. Ezekyèl 28:18. Konsènan sanktyè sèvis kontinyèl la nan Danyèl 8 la, nou prezante sa ki annapre yo soti nan Apollos Hale:*”
"—What can be meant by the —sanctuary' of Paganism? Paganism, and error of every kind, have their sanctuaries, as well as truth. These are the temples or asylums consecrated to their service. Some particular and renowned temple of Paganism may, then, be supposed to be here spoken of. Which of its numerous distinguished temples may it be? One of the most magnificent specimens of classic architecture is called the Pantheon. Its name signifies the —temple or asylum of all the gods.' The place of its location is Rome.+ The idols of the nations conquered by the Romans were sacredly deposited in some niche or department of this temple, and in many cases became objects of worship by the Romans themselves. Could we find a temple of Paganism that was more strikingly —his sanctuary.'"
"—Ki sa yo ka vle di pa —Tanp lan' nan Paganis la? Paganis la, ansanm ak erè tout kalite, gen tanp pa yo menm jan ak verite a. Sa yo se tanp oswa azil yo konsakre pou sèvis yo. Se poutèt sa, yo ka sipoze se de yon tanp patikilye ak byen renome nan Paganis la yo ap pale isit la. Kilès, pami anpil tanp distenge li yo, sa ta ka ye? Youn nan pi bèl egzanp achitekti klasik yo rele Panteyon an. Non li vle di —tanp oswa azil tout bondye yo.' Kote li ye se lavil Wòm.+ Zidòl nasyon Women yo te konkeri yo te depoze avèk respè sakre nan kèk nich oswa depatman nan tanp sa a, e nan anpil ka yo te vin tounen objè adorasyon pou Women yo menm. Èske nou ta ka jwenn yon tanp nan Paganis ki ta pi frapan kòm —tanp pa li a.'"
"Having now ascertained that the daily is Paganism, and the transgression of desolation, or —the abomination that maketh desolate,' is the Papacy, and that the especial sanctuary of Paganism was the Pantheon, and that the —place' of its location was Rome, we inquire further.
“Kounyeya a, etan nou fin tabli ke sakrifis chak jou a se Pèganis, epi transgresyon dezolasyon an, oswa —abominasyon ki lakòz dezolasyon an,— se Papote a, epi ke tanp espesyal Pèganis la te Panteyon an, e ke —plas— kote li te chita a se te Wòm, nou pousuiv ankèt nou pi lwen.”
"1. Was Paganism —taken away' by the Roman civil power? The following statement of an important and well-known fact in the history of the church and world, we think answers to the prophecy. It refers to Constantine the first Christian emperor, and says:
“1. Èske Pèganis te —retire’ pa pouvwa sivil Women an? Nou panse deklarasyon sa a konsènan yon reyalite enpòtan e byen koni nan listwa legliz la ak nan listwa mond lan, reponn pwofesi a. Li fè referans ak Konstanten, premye anperè kretyen an, epi li di:”
"—His first act of government was the dispatch of an edict throughout the empire, exhorting his subjects to embrace Christianity.'++
—Premye zak gouvènman li te poze se te pibliye yon edik nan tout anpi a, k ap egzòte sijè li yo pou yo anbrase Krisyanis la.'++
"2. Was Rome the city or place of his sanctuary, (the Pantheon,) cast down by the authority of the State? The following extract answers:
2. Èske Wòm te vil la oswa plas tanp li a, (Pantheon an), yo te jete l atè pa otorite Leta a? Ekstrè ki vin apre a bay repons lan:
"—The death of the last rival of Constantine had sealed the peace of the empire. Rome was once more the undisputed queen of nations. But, in that hour of elevation and splendor, she had been raised to the edge of a precipice. Her next step was to be downward and irrecoverable. The change of the government to Constantinople still perplexes the historian. It was an act in direct repugnance to the whole course of the ancient and honorable prejudices of the Roman mind. It was the work of no luxurious Asiatic, devoted to the indulgences of eastern customs and climates, but an iron conqueror, born in the west, and contemptuous, like all Romans, of the habits of the orientals; it was the work of a keen politician, yet it was impolitic in the most palpable degree. Yet Constantine abandoned Rome, the great citadel and throne of the Caesars, for an obscure corner of Thrace, and expended the remainder of his vigorous and ambitious life in the double toil of raising a colony into the capital of his empire, and degrading the capital into the feeble honors and humiliated strength of a colony.'*
«—Lanmò dènye rival Konstanten an te sele lapè anpi a. Wòm te vin ankò larenn nasyon yo san okenn kontestasyon. Men, nan lè elevasyon ak bèlte sa a, yo te leve li jis bò rebò yon presipis. Pwochen pa li te dwe fèt desann, epi san okenn retou. Chanjman gouvènman an pou Konstantinòp kontinye lage istoryen an nan tèt chaje. Se te yon zak ki te an opozisyon dirèk ak tout kou ansyen ak onorab prejije lespri women an. Se pa t travay yon Azyatik delika, ki te livre tèt li bay plezi koutim ak klima lès yo, men travay yon konkeran an fè, ki te fèt nan lwès la, e ki te meprize, tankou tout Women, abitid oryantal yo; se te travay yon politisyen byen file, epoutan li te manke sajès politik nan degre ki pi parèt la. Men, Konstanten te abandone Wòm, gran sitadèl la ak twòn Seza yo, pou yon kwen fènwa nan Tras, epi li te depanse rès lavi li ki te toujou plen fòs ak anbisyon nan doub travay sa a: leve yon koloni pou fè l tounen kapital anpi li a, epi degrade kapital la pou mennen l nan onè fèb ak fòs imilye yon koloni.»*
"This record from the pen of the historian is too plain to need comment. The place of his sanctuary was cast down, says the prophecy; and after a statement of facts like the above, the most fastidious in prophetic interpretation must be satisfied of its application.
“Dosye sa a, ki soti anba plim istoryen an, twò klè pou li bezwen kòmantè. Pwofesi a di: yo te jete atè plas sanktyè li a; epi apre yon deklarasyon sou reyalite tankou sa ki anlè yo, menm moun ki pi egzijan nan entèpretasyon pwofetik la dwe satisfè konsènan aplikasyon li.”
"From the time that the daily shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. Blessed is he that waiteth and cometh to the thousand three hundred five and thirty days. With the facts before us that the daily is Paganism, that the abomination that maketh desolate is the Papacy, that there was a change from the former to the latter in the Roman power, and by the authority of State we have but to inquire further when this took place in a manner to fulfill the prophecy; for if we can ascertain this, we have the starting point from which the prophetic periods in the text before us are to be dated. Therefore,
“Depi lè sèvis kontinyèl la va wete, epi abominasyon ki fè dezolasyon an va tabli, pral gen mil desan katrevendis jou. Benediksyon pou moun ki tann e ki rive nan mil twasan trannsenk jou yo.” Avèk reyalite ki devan nou yo, sètadi ke sèvis kontinyèl la se payanis, ke abominasyon ki fè dezolasyon an se Papote a, ke te gen yon chanjman soti nan premye a pou rive nan dezyèm nan nan pouvwa women an, e sa pa otorite Leta, nou pa gen anyen pou nou fè ankò pase pousuiv rechèch la pou konnen ki lè sa te rive yon fason pou akonpli pwofesi a; paske si nou kapab detèmine sa, nou genyen pwen depa kote peryòd pwofetik yo nan tèks ki devan nou an dwe kòmanse konte. Se poutèt sa,
"3. When did the event referred to in the prophecy take place? Let it be observed, the question is not, when were the saints given into the hands of the Papacy, but when had the change of religion from Paganism to Papacy been so far effected as to make the latter the national religion, and place it in a condition to start upon its career. This, like all other great revolutions, was not the work of a moment. Its incipient workings were manifest long before. Paul said that even in his day the mystery of iniquity, the Man of Sin, the —abomination that maketh desolate,' was already at work. And it is in the light of this scripture that we must understand our Lord's words in Mathew 24:15, concerning the abomination of desolation, where he makes evident reference to Daniel 9:27. For although Paganism had not given place to the Papacy in the year 70 when Jerusalem was destroyed by the Romans we do understand that the power which then appeared modified somewhat in name and form, was the very power that should, as the abomination of desolation, wear out the saints and desolate the church of the Most High.
“3. Kilè evènman yo mansyone nan pwofesi a te fèt? Se pou nou remake byen, kestyon an se pa, kilè sen yo te lage nan men Papote a, men kilè chanjman relijyon an soti nan Paganis pou rive nan Papote a te fin fèt ase pou fè dènye a vin relijyon nasyonal la, epi mete li nan yon kondisyon pou l kòmanse karyè pa li. Sa a, menm jan ak tout lòt gwo revolisyon yo, pa t travay yon sèl moman. Premye mouvman li yo te parèt klè byen lontan anvan sa. Pòl te di menm nan epòk pa li a, mistè inikite a, Nonm Peche a, ‘abominasyon ki lakòz dezolasyon an,’ te deja ap travay. E se nan limyè ekriti sa a nou dwe konprann pawòl Seyè nou an nan Matye 24:15, konsènan abominasyon dezolasyon an, kote li fè yon referans klè ak Danyèl 9:27. Paske, byenke Paganis pa t ankò bay plas li bay Papote a nan ane 70 la, lè Wòm te detwi Jerizalèm, nou konprann ke pisans ki te parèt lè sa a, menm si li te chanje yon ti jan nan non ak nan fòm, se te menm pisans lan ki ta dwe, antanke abominasyon dezolasyon an, fatige sen yo epi ravaje legliz Trèwo a.”
"Up to the time of the conversion of Clovis, king of France, which took place in 496, the French and other nations of western Rome were Pagan; but subsequent to that event the efforts to convert idolaters to Christ were crowned with great success. It is said that the conversion of Clovis gave rise to the custom of addressing the French monarch with the titles of Most Christian Majesty and Eldest Son of the Church.+ Between that time and A.D. 508 by "alliances," "capitulations" and conquests, "the Avborici," the "Roman garrisons in the west," Brittany, the Burgundians and the Visigoths, were brought into subjection.'++
Jiska nan tan konvèsyon Klovis, wa Lafrans, ki te fèt an 496, Franse yo ansanm ak lòt nasyon nan lwès Anpi Wòm nan te payen; men apre evènman sa a, efò yo te fè pou konvèti adoratè zidòl yo bay Kris la te kouwone ak yon gwo siksè. Yo di konvèsyon Klovis la te bay nesans ak koutim pou yo adrese monak franse a ak tit Trè Kretyen Majeste ak Pi Gran Pitit Legliz la.+ Ant epòk sa a ak ane 508 aprè Jezikri, pa mwayen “alyans,” “kapitilasyon” ak konkèt, “Avborici yo,” “garnizon women yo nan lwès la,” Bretay, Burgondyen yo ak Vizigòt yo, te vin soumèt anba dominasyon li.'++
"—Paganism in the western Roman Empire, though it doubtless retarded the progress of the Christian faith, especially in those nations which were molested, as in the case of England, by the inroads of the barbarous clans, who continued idolaters, henceforth had not the power, if it had the disposition to suppress the Catholic faith, or to hinder the encroachments of the Roman Pontiff.
—Paganis nan Anpi Wòm oksidantal la, byenke san dout li te ralanti pwogrè lafwa kretyèn nan, sitou nan nasyon sa yo ki te sibi zak deranjman, tankou nan ka Angletè, akoz envazyon tribi barbar yo, ki te kontinye ap pratike idolatri, depi lè sa a li pa t gen pouvwa a, menm si li te gen dispozisyon an, pou siprime lafwa katolik la, oswa pou anpeche anpyètman Pontif Wòm nan.
"From that time, the Papal abomination was triumphant, so far as Paganism was concerned. Its future contests were with the other Christian sects, who were always treated as heretics; and with princes who were always treated as rebels or dividers of the body of Christ. The prominent powers of Europe gave up their attachment to Paganism only to perpetuate its abominations in another form; for Paganism needed only to be baptized to become Christian in the Catholic sense; and when the interests or vengeance of its presiding minister made the demand, their possessions and thrones,—perhaps their lives,—must be laid on the altar. SS
Depi lè sa a, abominasyon Papal la te triyonfan, anrapò ak Paganis la. Konba li yo, alavni, te ak lòt sèkt kretyen yo, yo menm yo te toujou trete kòm eretik; epi ak chèf yo, ki te toujou trete kòm rebèl oswa moun k ap divize kò Kris la. Pouvwa prensipal Ewòp yo te abandone atachman yo pou Paganis la sèlman pou yo te perpétue abominasyon li yo nan yon lòt fòm; paske Paganis la te bezwen sèlman resevwa batèm pou l tounen kretyen nan sans Katolik la; epi lè enterè oswa vanjans minis prezidan li a te fè demand lan, byen yo ak twòn yo,—petèt lavi yo menm,—te dwe depoze sou lotèl la. SS
"* Prophetic Exposition, Volume 1, 127.
* Ekspozisyon pwofetik, Volim 1, 127.
"+ Goodrich's Universal Hist. and Gutherie's Geog.'
+ Istwa Inivèsèl Goodrich la ak Jewografi Gutherie a.
"+ Mosheim Christian History, Volume 1, 132, 133.
+ Istwa Kretyen Mosheim, Volim 1, 132, 133.
"In England, Arthur, the first Christian king, founded the Christian worship on the ruins of the Pagan.* Rapin, who claims to be more exact in the chronology of events in his history, states that he was elected monarch of Britain in 508. Book 2, 129.
“An Angletè, Arthur, premye wa kretyen an, te tabli adorasyon kretyen an sou debri adorasyon payen an.* Rapin, ki pretann li pi egzak nan kwonoloji evènman yo nan istwa li a, deklare ke yo te eli li kòm monak Bretay an 508. Liv 2, 129.
"What was the condition of the See of Rome at this time? —Symmachus was Pope from 498 or 9 to 514. His pontificate was distinguished by these remarkable circumstances and events:
“Ki kondisyon Sije Wòm nan te ye nan epòk sa a? — Symmachus te Pap depi 498 oswa 499 rive 514. Pontifika li te make pa sikonstans ak evènman remakab sa yo:”
"1. He —left Paganism' when he entered the —church of Rome.'
1. Li te —kite Pèganis la' lè li te antre nan —legliz Wòm nan.'
"2. He found his way to the Papal chair by striving with his competitor even unto blood. Du Pin.
2. Li te rive sou chèz papal la lè li t ap lite ak konpetitè li a, menm jouk san. Du Pin.
"3. By the adulation paid to him as the successor of St. Peter.
3. Pa louwanj yo rann li kòm siksesè Sen Pyè a.
"4. By the excommunication of the Emperor Anastasius.+
"4. Pa èkskominikasyon Anperè Anastaz."
"—How much,' says Mosheim, —the opinions of some were favorable to the lordly demands of the Roman Pontiffs, may be easily imagined from an expression of Ennodius, that infamous and extravagant flatterer of Symmachus, who was a prelate of ambiguous fame. This parasitical panegyrist, among other impertinent assertions maintained that the Pontiff was constituted judge in the place of God, which he filled as the Vicegerent of the Most High.'++
"—Konbyen," Mosheim di, "opinyon kèk moun te favorab a egzijans dominatè Pontif women yo, sa ka fasil pou yo imajine dapre yon pawòl Ennodius, sa a flaterè enfam e ekzajere Symmachus la, ki te yon prelà ki te gen yon repitasyon anbigi. Panegiris parazitè sa a, pami lòt deklarasyon san sans, te soutni ke Pontif la te etabli kòm jij nan plas Bondye, plas li te okipe kòm Reprezantan Sila ki anwo nan syèl la."++
"By the strength secured to the Catholic cause in the west, by these successes, and the agency of the vicars, and other agents of the See of Rome, the Papal party in Constantinople were —placed' in a position to justify open hostilities in behalf of their master at Rome. In 508 the whirlwind of fanaticism and civil war swept in fire and blood through the streets of the eastern capital.'
“Pa fòs ki te vin asire kòz katolik la nan lwès la, pa siksè sa yo, ansanm ak aksyon vikè yo ak lòt ajan Syèj Wòm nan, pati papal la nan Konstantinòp te —‘tabli’— nan yon pozisyon ki te pèmèt li jistifye ostilite ouvèt an favè mèt pa yo ki te nan Wòm. An 508, toubiyon fanatism ak lagè sivil la te pase avèk dife ak san nan lari kapital lès la.”
"Gibbon, under the years 508–514, speaking of the commotions in Constantinople, says —The statues of the emperor were broken, and his person was concealed in a suburb, till, at the end of three days, he dared to implore the mercy of his subjects. [Popery is triumphant.] Without his diadem, and in the posture of a suppliant, Anastasius appeared on the throne of the circus. The Catholics, before his face, rehearsed the genuine Trisagion; they exulted in the offer which he proclaimed by the voice of a herald, of abdicating the purple; they listened to the admonition, that, since all could not reign, they should previously agree in the choice of a sovereign; and they accepted the blood of two unpopular ministers, whom their master, without hesitation, condemned to the lions. These furious but transient seditions were encouraged by the success of Vitalian, who with his army of Huns and Bulgarians, for the most part idolaters, declared himself the champion of the Catholic faith. In this pious rebellion he depopulated Thrace, besieged Constantinople, exterminated sixty-five thousand of his fellow Christians, till he obtained the recall of the bishops, the satisfaction of the Pope, and the establishment of the council of Chalcedon, an orthodox treaty, reluctantly signed by the dying Anastasius, and more faithfully performed by the uncle of Justinian. And such was the event of the first of the religious wars which have been waged in the name, and by the disciples, of the God of Peace." SS
Gibbon, anba ane 508–514 yo, pandan l ap pale sou boulvèsman ki te fèt Konstantinòp, li di konsa — Estati anperè a te kraze, epi yo te kache moun pa li nan yon katye andeyò lavil, jouk lè, apre twa jou, li te pran odas pou sipliye mizèrikòd sijè li yo. [Papote a triyonfan.] San dyadèm li, e nan pòz yon moun k ap sipliye, Anastasius parèt sou twòn sirk la. Katolik yo, devan figi li, repete Trisagion otantik la; yo te rejwi poutèt òf li te pwoklame pa vwa yon èra ki t ap anonse li, pou l abdike pourp la; yo te koute avètisman an, ke, depi tout moun pa t kapab renye, yo te dwe davans dakò sou chwa yon souveren; epi yo te aksepte san de minis enpopilè, mèt yo a, san ezitasyon, te kondane bay lyon yo. Sedisyon sa yo, ki te fewòs men pasajè, te ankouraje pa siksè Vitalian, ki ansanm ak lame li a ki te fòme ak Hun ak Bilgà, pou pifò yo te adoratè zidòl, te deklare tèt li chanpyon lafwa Katolik la. Nan rebelyon relijye sa a, li te depopile Trasi, li te sènen Konstantinòp, li te ekstèmine swasant-senk mil nan kretyen parèy li yo, jouk li te jwenn rapèl evèk yo, satisfaksyon Pap la, ak etablisman konsèy Chalcedon an, yon trete òtodòks, Anastasius k ap mouri a te siyen ak repiyans, epi tonton Justinien an te egzekite avèk plis fidelite. E se konsa fen premye nan lagè relijye yo ki te mennen nan non, e pa disip, Bondye Lapè a, te ye. SS
"With the following extract from Appollos Hale, we close the testimony on this point: —We now invite our modern Gamaliels to take a position with us in the place of the sanctuary of Paganism (since claimed as the "patrimony of St. Peter") in 508. We look a few years into the past, and the rude Paganism of the northern barbarians is pouring down upon the nominally Christian empire of Western Rome—triumphing everywhere—and its triumphs everywhere distinguished by the most savage cruelty. . . . The empire falls and is broken into fragments. One by one the lords and rulers of these fragments, abandon their Paganism and profess the Christian faith. In religion the conquerors are yielding to the conquered. But still Paganism is triumphant. Among its supporters there is one stern and successful conqueror. (Clovis.) But soon he also bows before the power of the new faith and becomes its champion. He is still triumphant, but, as a hero and conqueror, reaches the zenith at the point we occupy, A.D. 508.
“Ak ekstrè sa a ki soti nan Appollos Hale, nou fèmen temwayaj la sou pwen sa a: —Kounye a nou envite Gamalyèl modèn nou yo pran pozisyon ansanm avèk nou nan plas sanktyè Pèganis la (yo deklare depi lè sa a se “eritaj Sen Pyè”) an 508. Nou gade kèk ane tounen nan tan pase a, epi britalite Pèganis sovaj barbar nò yo ap vide desann sou anpi Wòm oksidantal la ki te sèlman kretyen nan non—li ap triyonfe toupatou—epi triyonf li yo toupatou make pa mechanste ki pi sovaj la. . . . Anpi a tonbe epi li kraze an moso. Youn apre lòt, chèf ak dirijan moso sa yo abandone Pèganis yo epi yo deklare lafwa kretyèn nan. Nan relijyon, konkeran yo ap rann yo bay moun yo te konkeri yo. Men, Pèganis la toujou ap triyonfe. Pami moun k ap soutni li yo, gen yon konkeran sevè e ki gen anpil siksè. (Clovis.) Men byento, li menm tou li bese devan pouvwa nouvo lafwa a epi li vin chanpyon li. Li toujou ap triyonfe, men, antanke ewo ak konkeran, li rive nan pi wo somè li nan pwen kote nou kanpe a, A.D. 508.”
"—In or near the same year, the last important subdivision of the fallen empire is publicly, and by the coronation of its triumphant —monarch' Christianized.
—Nan menm ane sa a, oswa toupre li, dènye gwo soudivizyon enpòtan an nan anpi ki te tonbe a vin ofisyèlman kretyenize, e sa fèt atravè kouwònman monak triyonfan li a.
"—The pontiff for the period on which we stand is a recently converted Pagan. The bloody contest which placed him in the chair was decided by the interposition of an Arian king. He is bowed to and saluted as filling —the place of God on earth.' The senate is so far under his power, that, on suspicion that the interests of the See of Rome demand it, they excommunicate the emperor. . . . In 508 the mine is sprung beneath the throne of the Eastern Empire. The result of the confusion and strife it occasions is the humiliation of its rightful lord. Now the question is, at what time was Paganism so far suppressed, as to make room for its substitute and successor, the Papal abomination? When was this abomination placed in a position to start on its career of blasphemy and blood? Is there any other date for its being "placed," or "set up" in the room of Paganism, but 508? If the mysterious enchantress has not now brought all her victims within her power, she has taken her position, and some have yielded to the fascination.
"—Pontif la pou peryòd kote nou kanpe a se yon payen ki fèk konvèti. Gwo konba sanglan ki te mete l sou chèz la te deside pa entèvansyon yon wa aryen. Yo bese devan li epi yo salye l kòm moun k ap ranpli —plas Bondye sou tè a.' Sena a tèlman anba pouvwa li, ke, sou senp sispisyon enterè Syèj Wòm nan mande sa, yo ekskominye anperè a. . . . An 508, min nan pete anba twòn Anpi Lès la. Rezilta konfizyon ak konfli sa a lakòz se imilyasyon mèt lejitim li a. Kounye a, kesyon an se: nan ki moman payanis te tèlman siprime, pou l te fè plas pou ranplasan ak siksesè li, abominasyon papal la? Kilè yo te mete abominasyon sa a nan yon pozisyon pou l kòmanse karyè blasfèm ak san li? Èske gen nenpòt lòt dat pou li te "plase," oswa "etabli" nan plas payanis, si se pa 508? Si anchantèz mistik sa a poko mennen tout viktim li yo anba pouvwa li, li deja pran pozisyon li, epi kèk ladan yo deja sede devan fascinasyon an.
"The others are at length subdued, —and kings, and peoples and multitudes, and nations, and tongues,' are brought under the spell which prepares them, even while —drunken with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus,' to —think they are doing God service,' and to fancy themselves the exclusive favorites of heaven, while becoming an easier and richer prey for the damnation of hell'*
“Lòt yo finalman soumèt, —epi wa yo, ak pèp yo, ak foul moun yo, ak nasyon yo, ak lang yo,’ vin tonbe anba anchantman ki prepare yo, menm pandan y ap —sou avèk san mati Jezi yo,’ pou —kwè y ap rann Bondye sèvis,’ epi pou imajine tèt yo kòm sèl moun syèl la chwazi ak favè li, pandan y ap vin tounen yon pi fasil ak pi rich priz pou kondanasyon lanfè a.”*
"We have the date. The —daily' was taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up in 508. Dating from this point the 1290 days or years terminate in 1798 where, as has already been shown, the civil power was stricken from the Pope by the arm of Buonaparte. The 1335 days bring us 45 full years this side of that event.
“Nou gen dat la. Yo te retire ‘chak jou’ a, epi yo te tabli abominasyon ki lakòz dezolasyon an nan ane 508. Lè nou konte apati pwen sa a, 1290 jou oswa ane yo fini an 1798 kote, jan sa deja te montre, pouvwa sivil la te rache nan men Pap la pa bra Buonaparte. 1335 jou yo mennen nou 45 ane antye pi lwen pase evènman sa a.”
"But some may say, How is it that you make the periods terminate in the past? Does it not read that Daniel should rest and stand in his lot at the end of the days? Certainly; and we believe it. But what is it for Daniel to stand in his lot? This point will come under consideration when we come to an explanation of the passing of the time, and an examination of the events that did take place at the end of the days. Meanwhile we here cast anchor till another week." Review and Herald, January 28, 1858.
“Men, gen kèk ka di: Ki jan fè nou fè peryòd yo fini nan tan pase a? Èske sa pa ekri ke Danyèl ta dwe repoze epi kanpe nan pati pa li nan fen jou yo? Sètènman; e nou kwè sa. Men, kisa sa vle di pou Danyèl kanpe nan pati pa li? Pwen sa a ap vin anba konsiderasyon lè n ap rive nan yon eksplikasyon sou pase tan an, ak yon egzamen sou evènman ki te vrèman rive nan fen jou yo. Pandanstan, isit la nou lage lank jiska yon lòt semèn.” Review and Herald, 28 janvye 1858.
Errors and Dangers of Prescott and Daniells; The Cities to Be Worked
Erè ak Danje konsènan Prescott ak Daniells; Vil yo ki Dwe Travay ladan yo
(A. G. Daniells was elected president of the General Conference in 1901. This suggests that this document was written in 1910, a time when Mrs. White was very concerned about Daniells' neglect of the cities and his involvement in the controversy over the "Daily.")
(A. G. Daniells te eli prezidan Konferans Jeneral la an 1901. Sa fè konprann ke dokiman sa a te ekri an 1910, yon epòk kote Madan White te gen anpil enkyetid konsènan neglijans Daniells te genyen anvè vil yo ak patisipasyon li nan konfli sou “Daily” la.)
Now, recently Steve Wohlberg was saying that he does not have to take a position on the Daily because Ellen White never had a position on the Daily, and if it is good enough for the prophetess to take that position, it is good enough for him.
Koulye a, dènyèman Steve Wohlberg t ap di li pa oblije pran pozisyon sou “the Daily” a, paske Ellen White pa t janm gen yon pozisyon sou “the Daily” a; epi si sa te ase bon pou pwofètès la pran pozisyon sa a, sa ase bon pou li tou.
Well, Ellen White did have a position on the Daily. She said the Millerites had the correct view of it, and she understood it was Paganism. She understood that when Paganism was taken away, the 1335 began; and, she understood that other views than that only produced darkness and confusion.
Ebyen, Ellen White te gen yon pozisyon sou “le Kontinyèl” la. Li te di ke Millerit yo te gen bon konpreyansyon sou li, e li te konprann se te Pèganis. Li te konprann ke lè yo te retire Pèganis la, 1335 la te kòmanse; epi, li te konprann ke lòt opinyon pase sa sèlman te pwodui tenèb ak konfizyon.
And the one that you can demonstrate from the history of 1850 that was really isolated as bringing darkness and confusion is Crosier's view that the Daily represented Christ's Sanctuary ministry; so, I think she had an understanding what the Daily was, not only what it was but what it represented because, if you left that position, you go into darkness and confusion.
Epi sa ou kapab demontre apati listwa ane 1850 la kòm sa ki te vrèman izole kòm sa ki te pote fènwa ak konfizyon, se opinyon Crosier la ki te di ke “Perpétuel” la te reprezante ministè Kris nan Sanktyè a; konsa, mwen panse li te gen yon konpreyansyon sou sa “Perpétuel” la te ye a, non sèlman sou sa li te ye, men tou sou sa li te reprezante, paske si ou te kite pozisyon sa a, ou antre nan fènwa ak konfizyon.
But, in 1910 Ellen White also rebuked the General Conference President and W. W. Prescott for pushing this same view as Crosier's.
Men, an 1910, Ellen White te reprimande tou Prezidan Konferans Jeneral la ak W. W. Prescott paske yo t ap pouse menm pwennvi sa a tankou pa Crosier la.
And no historian is going to argue that Prescott and Willie White and A. G. Daniells, that when they were pushing the Daily, they were pushing the idea that the Daily represented Christ's Sanctuary ministry. Everyone knows that.
E okenn istoryen pap diskite pou di Prescott ak Willie White ak A. G. Daniells, lè yo t ap defann “Daily” a, yo t ap defann lide ke “Daily” a te reprezante ministè Kris la nan Tanp Senyè a. Tout moun konnen sa.
But, you have got the entire article here from Manuscript Releases, volume 20.
Men, nou genyen tout atik la isit la, ki soti nan Manuscript Releases, volim 20.
When was this released? Well, it was released in 1988; so, it is available for students of Adventism to consider in 1988.
Kilè sa te pibliye? Ebyen, li te pibliye an 1988; kidonk, li disponib pou etidyan Advantis yo konsidere an 1988.
When did Willie White and Prescott and Daniells establish the false view of the Daily in Adventism? From 1919 to 1931 is when they accomplished their work. By 1931, forget about it!! Adventism is going to teach that the Daily represents Christ's Sanctuary ministry because they have accepted the interpretation of the Scriptures that comes from apostate Protestantism and Catholicism. And from this point on, the Daily is identified as Christ's Sanctuary ministry.
Kilè Willie White, Prescott ak Daniells te etabli fo konsèpsyon sou “Daily” a nan Adventis la? Se soti 1919 rive 1931 yo te akonpli travay yo. An 1931, bliye sa nèt!! Adventis la pral anseye ke “Daily” a reprezante ministè Kris la nan Tanp li a, paske yo te aksepte entèpretasyon Ekriti yo ki soti nan Pwotestantis aposta ak Katolis. E depi pwen sa a, “Daily” a idantifye kòm ministè Kris la nan Tanp li a.
Awe, there are some voices that are opposing this that know better, but the tide has totally turned from that point on.
Malerezman, gen kèk vwa k ap opoze sa a ki konnen miyò, men depi moman sa a, mare a chanje nèt.
And then in 1988, the Ellen White Estate releases for us this statement from 1910 at the very time the Daily was being agitated by Prescott, Daniells, and Willie White.
Epi answit, an 1988, Ellen White Estate te pibliye pou nou deklarasyon sa a ki soti nan ane 1910, nan menm moman kote kestyon sou “the Daily” t ap brase pa Prescott, Daniells, ak Willie White.
"At this stage of our experience we are not to have our minds drawn away from the special light given [us] to consider at the important gathering of our conference. And there was Brother Daniells, whose mind the enemy was working;"
Nan etap sa a nan eksperyans nou an, nou pa dwe kite lespri nou detounen de limyè espesyal yo te ban nou pou nou konsidere nan reyinyon enpòtan konferans nou an. Epi te gen Frè Daniells, ki gen lespri lènmi an t ap enfliyanse;
What does that mean? What does it mean that the enemy is working your mind? It means the Holy Spirit is not working your mind.
Kisa sa vle di? Kisa sa vle di lè lènmi an ap travay nan lespri ou? Sa vle di Sentespri a pa ap travay nan lespri ou.
"...and your mind and Elder Prescott's mind were being worked by the angels that were expelled from heaven..."
«…epi lespri pa ou ansanm ak lespri Frè Prescott t ap sibi enfliyans zanj ki te chase soti nan syèl la…»
"Satan's work was to divert your minds that jots and tittles should be brought in which the Lord did not inspire you to bring in. They were not essential. But this meant much to the cause of truth. And the ideas of your minds, if you could be drawn away to jots or tittles, is a work of Satan's devising. To correct little things in the books written, you suppose would be doing a great work. But I am charged, Silence is eloquence."
"Travay Satan se te detounen lespri nou pou yo te fè nou mete ti detay ak ti pwen ki Senyè a pa t enspire nou mete ladan yo. Yo pa t esansyèl. Men sa te gen anpil enpòtans pou kòz verite a. E lide lespri nou yo, si yo te ka rale nou sou ti detay oswa ti pwen, se yon travay ki soti nan konplo Satan. Pou korije ti bagay nan liv ki te ekri yo, nou panse sa t ap yon gwo travay. Men yo ban m lòd sa a: Silans se elokans."
They wanted to go into Uriah Smith's book, Thoughts on Daniel and Revelation, and remove what he said about the Daily being Paganism. That is why in this time period one of the men that is fighting against Willie White and Prescott and Daniells is a man named Larry Smith.
Yo te vle antre nan liv Ourya Smith la, *Thoughts on Daniel and Revelation*, epi retire sa li te di konsènan “Daily” a kòm Paganis. Se poutèt sa, nan peryòd tan sa a, youn nan mesye k ap goumen kont Willie White, Prescott, ak Daniells se yon nonm yo rele Larry Smith.
Who is Larry Smith? That is Uriah's son, and he knows what they want to do and he is standing with his dad: the Daily is Paganism.
Ki moun Larry Smith ye? Se pitit gason Ouriya a; li konnen sa yo vle fè, e li kanpe ansanm ak papa l: “The Daily” a se Paganis.
"I am to say, Stop your picking flaws. If this purpose of the devil could only be carried out, then [it] appears to you [that] your work would be considered as most wonderful in conception. It was the enemy's plan to get all the supposed objectionable features where all classes of minds did not agree.
“Mwen dwe di: Sispann chèche fot. Si objektif sa a nan men dyab la te ka rive akonpli sèlman, lè sa a sa parèt devan nou kòm si travay nou ta konsidere kòm yon bagay ki pi mèvèye nan konsepsyon li. Se te plan lènmi an pou mete tout sa yo te sipoze kòm aspè ki ka fè objeksyon yo la kote tout kategori lespri pa t dakò.”
"And what then? The very work that pleases the devil would come to pass. There would be a representation given to the outsiders not of our faith just what would suit them, that would develop traits of character which would"
“Epi kisa ankò? Menmsi sa, se menm travay ki fè dyab la plezi a ki ta rive fèt. Ta gen yon reprezantasyon yo ta bay moun ki deyò yo, pa sou lafwa nou jan li ye a, men egzakteman jan sa ta konvenab pou yo, e sa ta devlope karakteristik karaktè ki ta”
do what? "cause great confusion."
fè kisa? “lakòz gwo konfizyon.”
Other views of the Daily have been adopted that bring confusion and darkness.
Lòt opinyon sou Sakrifis Kontinyèl la te adopte, e sa pote konfizyon ak fènwa.
"and occupy the golden moments which should be used zealously to bring the great message before the people. The presentations upon any subject we have worked upon could not all harmonize, and the results would be to confuse the minds of believers and unbelievers. This is the very thing that Satan had planned that should take place—anything that could be magnified as a disagreement.
“epi okipe moman an lò yo, ki ta dwe sèvi avèk anpil zèl pou pote gran mesaj la devan pèp la. Prezantasyon nou ta fè sou nenpòt sijè nou te travay sou li pa t ap ka tout ann amoni, e rezilta a t ap konfonn lespri moun ki kwè yo ansanm ak moun ki pa kwè yo. Se egzakteman bagay sa a Satan te fè plan pou l rive—nenpòt sa ki ta ka agrandi kòm yon dezakò.”
Lord willing, when we begin to prove these doctrines from our Bible study, we will look at Ezekiel 28; because, Ezekiel 28 is where the very root of the Daily is identified. Ezekiel 28 is about the exaltation of Lucifer, and she is marking it; because, as they are trying to say that the Daily represents Christ's Sanctuary ministry, not only were they rejecting the true view of the Daily, a symbol of self-exaltation, but they were manifesting that very self-exaltation in their own experience. She emphasizes they would bring confusion into our ranks.
Si le Seigneur le veut, lorsque nous commencerons à démontrer ces doctrines à partir de notre étude de la Bible, nous examinerons Ézéchiel 28; car c’est dans Ézéchiel 28 que la racine même du Continu est identifiée. Ézéchiel 28 traite de l’exaltation de Lucifer, et elle la met en évidence; car, tandis qu’ils cherchent à dire que le Continu représente le ministère de Christ dans le Sanctuaire, non seulement ils rejetaient la véritable compréhension du Continu, symbole de l’auto-exaltation, mais ils manifestaient cette même auto-exaltation dans leur propre expérience. Elle souligne qu’ils introduiraient de la confusion dans nos rangs.
"Now, here is a grand work, where strange spirits can figure. But the Lord has a work to [be] done to save perishing souls; and the places which Satan, disguised, could fill in, bringing confusion into our ranks, he will do to perfection, and all those little differences will become enlarged, prominent.
“Kounye a, men yon gwo travay, kote lespri etranj yo ka pran plas yo. Men, Senyè a gen yon travay pou [fèt], pou sove nanm k ap peri yo; e plas kote Satan, degize, ta ka antre pou ranpli, pou pote konfizyon nan ran nou yo, li pral fè sa nèt ale; epi tout ti diferans sa yo ap vin elaji, ap parèt aklè.”
And what does it mean, "And I was shown"? God specifically told her this.
E ki sa sa vle di, “E yo te montre m”? Bondye te di li sa espesyalman.
"And I was shown from the first that the Lord had given neither Elders Daniells nor Prescott the burden of this work. Should Satan's wiles be brought in, should this "Daily" be such a great matter as to be brought in to confuse minds and hinder the advancement of the work at this important period of time? It should not, whatever may be. This subject should not be introduced,"
“Epi yo te fè m wè depi nan kòmansman an ke Senyè a pa t bay ni Ansyen Daniells ni Prescott chay travay sa a. Èske riz Satan yo ta dwe antre, èske ‘Sakrifis Tout Tan an’ sa a ta dwe vin yon bagay tèlman enpòtan pou yo ta prezante l pou l konfonn lespri moun epi anpeche avansman travay la nan moman tan sa a ki tèlman enpòtan? Sa pa dwe fèt, kèlkeswa sa li ta ye. Sijè sa a pa dwe prezante,”
Sister White understood the Daily, and she understood that teaching the Daily was Christ's Sanctuary ministry is something that came from angels that were expelled from Heaven and that it only brings confusion and darkness; and, she knew the Pioneer position that the Daily represented Paganism, and that when the Daily was taken away, the 1335-year time prophecy began. She knew that. She knew the difference, no matter what these guys want to say.
Sè White te konprann “Daily” a, epi li te konprann ke anseye “Daily” a kòm ministè Kris la nan Tanp Sen an se yon bagay ki soti nan zanj ki te chase soti nan Syèl la e ke sa sèlman pote konfizyon ak fènwa; epi li te konnen pozisyon Pyonye yo, selon ki “Daily” a te reprezante payenis, e ke lè “Daily” a te retire, pwofesi tan 1335 ane a te kòmanse. Li te konnen sa. Li te konnen diferans lan, kèlkeswa sa mesye sa yo vle di.
"It should not, whatever may be. This subject should not be introduced, for the spirit that would be brought in would be forbidding, and Lucifer is watching every movement. Satanic agencies would commence his work and there would be confusion brought into our ranks. You have no call to hunt up the difference of opinion that is not a testing question; but your silence is eloquence. I have the matter all plainly before me. If the devil could involve any one of our own people on these subjects, as he has proposed to do, Satan's cause would triumph. Now the work without delay is to be taken up and not a [difference] of opinion expressed.
"Sa pa ta dwe fèt, kèlkeswa sa ki ta rive. Sijè sa a pa ta dwe prezante, paske lespri ki ta antre a t ap yon lespri ki entèdi, e Lisifè ap veye chak mouvman. Ajan satanik yo t ap kòmanse travay li, epi konfizyon t ap antre nan mitan nou. Ou pa resevwa okenn apèl pou al chèche diferans opinyon ki pa yon kestyon pou mete moun a leprèv; men silans ou se elokans. Mwen gen tout bagay sa a klèman devan mwen. Si dyab la te kapab angaje nenpòt nan pwòp pèp nou an nan sijè sa yo, jan li te pwopoze fè a, kòz Satan t ap triyonfe. Kounye a, travay la dwe pran san reta, epi okenn [diferans] opinyon pa dwe eksprime."
"Satan would inspire those men who have gone out from us to unite with evil angels and retard our work on unimportant questions, and what rejoicing [there] would be in the camp of the enemy. Press together, press together. Let every difference be buried. Our work now is to devote all our physical and brain-nerve power to put these differences out of the way, and all harmonize. If Satan could with his great unsanctified wisdom be permitted to get the least hold, [he would rejoice].
“सातानले हामीबाट निस्केर गएका ती मानिसहरूलाई दुष्ट स्वर्गदूतहरूसँग एकजुट हुन र तुच्छ प्रश्नहरूद्वारा हाम्रो काममा बाधा पुर्याउन प्रेरित गर्नेथियो, र शत्रुको शिविरमा कति हर्षोल्लास हुनेथियो। नजिक आउनुहोस्, अझ नजिक आउनुहोस्। हरेक भिन्नता गाडिदिऊँ। अहिले हाम्रो काम भनेको यी भिन्नताहरूलाई बाटोबाट हटाउन र सबैलाई एकमत गराउन हाम्रो समस्त शारीरिक शक्ति तथा मस्तिष्क-नसको शक्ति अर्पण गर्नु हो। यदि सातानलाई उसको महान् अपरिष्कृत बुद्धिद्वारा अलिकति मात्र पनि पकड जमाउन अनुमति दिइयो भने, [ऊ आनन्दित हुनेथियो]।”
"Now, when I saw how you were working, my mind took in the whole situation and the results if you should go forward and give the parties that have left us the least chance to bring confusion into our ranks. Your lack of wisdom would be just what Satan would have it. Your loud proclamation was not under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. I was instructed to say to you that your picking flaws in the writings of men that have been led of God is not inspired of God. And if this is the wisdom that Elder Daniells would give to the people, by no means give him an official position, for he cannot reason from cause to effect. Your silence on this subject is your wisdom. Now, everything like picking flaws in the publications of men who are not alive is not the work God has given any of you to do. For if these men—Elders Daniells and Prescott—had followed the directions given in working the cities, there would have been many, very many, convinced of the truth and converted, able men that [now] are in positions where they never will be reached.
Koulye a, lè m te wè fason nou t ap travay, lespri mwen te byen konprann tout sitiyasyon an ansanm ak rezilta yo, si nou ta kontinye epi bay pati ki kite nou yo menm pi piti okazyon pou pote konfizyon nan mitan ranje nou yo. Mank sajès nou ta egzakteman sa Satan ta vle. Pwoklamasyon fò nou an pa t anba enspirasyon Sentespri a. Mwen te resevwa enstriksyon pou m di nou ke chèche fay nan ekriti mesye Bondye te dirije yo pa soti nan enspirasyon Bondye. Epi si se sajès sa a Ansyen Daniells ta bay pèp la, pa mete l nan okenn pozisyon ofisyèl, paske li pa ka rezone soti nan kòz rive nan efè. Silans nou sou sijè sa a se sajès nou. Koulye a, tout sa ki sanble ak chèche fay nan piblikasyon mesye ki pa vivan ankò yo se pa travay Bondye bay okenn nan nou pou nou fè. Paske si mesye sa yo—Ansyen Daniells ak Prescott—te swiv direksyon yo te resevwa konsènan travay nan vil yo, ta gen anpil, anpil moun ki t ap vin konvenki de verite a epi ki t ap konvèti, moun ki gen kapasite, ki [kounye a] nan pozisyon kote yo pap janm rive jwenn yo.
"All the world is to be regarded as one great family. And when you have such a fountain of knowledge to draw from, why have you left the world to perish for years with the testimonies given by our Lord Jesus Christ? True religion teaches us to regard every man and woman as a person to whom we can do good.
“Tout le monde doit être considéré comme une seule grande famille. Et lorsque vous avez une telle source de connaissance où puiser, pourquoi avez-vous laissé le monde périr pendant des années, malgré les témoignages donnés par notre Seigneur Jésus-Christ ? La vraie religion nous enseigne à considérer chaque homme et chaque femme comme une personne à qui nous pouvons faire du bien. »
"This has been in print many years: —A Balanced Mind,' testimony to Elder Andrews. The mind may be cultivated to become a power to know when to speak and what burdens to take up and to bear, for Christ is your teacher. And I feared greatly for you [when I saw you] exalting your wisdom and pursuing a course to bring in differences of opinion. The Lord calls for wise men who can hold their peace when it [is] wisdom for them to do so. If you would be a whole man, you need sanctification through Jesus Christ. Now there is a work just started, and let wisdom be seen in every minister, in every president of [a] conference. But here was a work for you to take hold of years ago where you were needed to lift your voice for this very work. Christ gave all His people special directions what they shall do and the things they shall not do. And there is a little time left us to work out the righteousness of the Lord. You can understand the way of the Lord. I saw your purpose of carrying things after your own devising after you were placed as president. You had thought you would do wonderful things, which would be a work God had not placed in your hands to do. Now, your work is not to oppress but to release every necessity possible if the Lord has accepted you to serve. But you have very early given evidence that wisdom and sanctified judgment have not been manifested by you. You blazed out matters that would not be received unless the Lord should give light.
“Sa a la nan enpresyon depi anpil ane: —Yon Lespri Ekilibre,” temwayaj pou Elder Andrews. Lespri a ka devlope pou l vin yon fòs pou konnen kilè pou pale ak ki chay pou pran sou li epi pou pote, paske Kris la se pwofesè ou. E mwen te gen anpil krent pou ou [lè mwen te wè ou] ap leve pwòp sajès pa ou anwo epi ap suiv yon chemen pou fè antre diferans opinyon. Senyè a rele moun saj ki ka kenbe lapè yo lè se sajès pou yo fè sa. Si ou ta vle vin yon nonm konplè, ou bezwen sanktifikasyon atravè Jezi Kris. Kounye a gen yon travay ki fèk kòmanse, epi se pou sajès parèt nan chak minis, nan chak prezidan yon konferans. Men, te gen yon travay isit la pou ou te mete men ladan l depi plizyè ane kote yo te bezwen ou pou leve vwa ou pou menm travay sa a. Kris la te bay tout pèp Li a direksyon espesyal sou sa yo dwe fè ak bagay yo pa dwe fè. Epi nou gen sèlman yon ti tan ki rete pou nou akonpli jistis Senyè a. Ou ka konprann chemen Senyè a. Mwen te wè entansyon ou pou mennen bagay yo dapre pwòp plan pa ou apre yo te mete ou kòm prezidan. Ou te panse ou t ap fè bagay mèvèy, ki t ap yon travay Bondye pa t mete nan men ou pou fè. Kounye a, travay ou se pa peze moun anba opresyon, men pou soulaje chak nesesite toutotan sa posib si Senyè a te aksepte ou pou sèvi. Men, byen bonè ou te bay prèv ke sajès ak jijman sanktifye pa t manifeste lakay ou. Ou te fè bagay parèt ak eklat ke yo pa t ap resevwa sof si Senyè a ta bay limyè.”
"I have been instructed that such hasty movements should not have [been] made [such] as selecting you as president of the conference even another year. But the Lord forbids any more such hasty transactions until the matter is brought before the Lord in prayer; and as you have had the message come to you that the work of the Lord resting upon the president is a most solemn responsibility, you had no moral right to blaze out as you did upon the subject of the —Daily' and suppose your influence would decide the question. There was Elder Haskell, who has carried the heavy responsibilities, and there is Elder Irwin and several men I might mention who have the heavy responsibilities.
Mwen resevwa enstriksyon ke yo pa t dwe fè mouvman prese konsa, tankou chwazi ou kòm prezidan konferans lan menm pou yon lòt ane. Men, Seyè a entèdi nenpòt lòt tranzaksyon prese konsa jiskaske yo prezante kesyon an devan Seyè a nan lapriyè; epi piske mesaj la te vin jwenn ou ke travay Seyè a ki poze sou prezidan an se yon responsablite ki pi solanèl, ou pa t gen okenn dwa moral pou eklate jan ou te fè a sou sijè —“Daily” la, epi sipoze enfliyans ou t ap deside kestyon an. Te gen Ansyen Haskell, ki te pote gwo responsablite yo, epi gen Ansyen Irwin ak plizyè lòt gason mwen ta ka site ki gen gwo responsablite yo.
"Where was your respect for the men of age? What authority could you exercise without taking all the responsible men to weigh the matter? But let us now investigate the matter. We must now reconsider whether it is the Lord's judgment, in the face of the work that has been neglected, of showing your zeal to carry the work even another year. If you should carry the work another year with the help that shall unite with you, there should be a change take place in you and Elder Prescott. And humble your own hearts before God. The Lord will have to see in you a showing of a different experience, for if ever men needed to be reconverted at this present [time], it [is] Elder Daniells and Elder Prescott.
“Ki kote respè nou te genyen pou mesye ki gen laj yo? Ki otorite nou te kapab egzèse san nou pa t pran tout mesye responsab yo pou peze kestyon an? Men, annou kounye a egzamine kestyon an. Nou dwe kounye a rekonsidere si se jijman Senyè a, devan travay ki te neglije a, pou montre zèl nou pou pousuiv travay la pandan yon lòt ane ankò. Si nou ta pousuiv travay la yon lòt ane avèk èd sila yo ki pral ini avèk nou, dwe gen yon chanjman ki fèt lakay nou menm ak Ansyen Prescott. Epi imilye pwòp kè nou devan Bondye. Senyè a pral oblije wè nan nou manifestasyon yon eksperyans diferan, paske si janm te gen moun ki te bezwen rekonvèti nan moman prezan sa a, se Ansyen Daniells ak Ansyen Prescott.”
"Seven men should be chosen that are men of wisdom and through the working of the grace of God [give] evidence [of] a reconversion. For any men who are so blinded that they cannot reason from cause to effect, that they would ignore the men who have borne the responsibilities of the work and these presidents of conferences, [that] men [who] carry the work for over two years should be disregarded and such an impulsive consequence take place that men would neglect the very work kept before them for years—work the cities—and no, or but very little, attention [be] given to the old men for counsel, but proclaim the things they choose to give the people, bears its own testimony of the unsafety of the men to be entrusted with such a grand and wonderful work.
« Yo ta dwe chwazi sèt gason ki se moun sajès, e ki, pa operasyon lagras Bondye a, bay prèv yon rekonvèsyon. Paske nenpòt gason ki tèlman avèg ke yo pa kapab rezone depi nan kòz rive nan efè, konsa yo ta neglije gason ki te pote responsablite travay la ak prezidan konferans sa yo; pou gason ki pote travay la pandan plis pase de zan yo ta mete sou kote, epi pou yon konsekans konsa, ki fèt sou enpilsyon, ta rive jiskaske moun neglije menm travay yo te kenbe devan yo pandan plizyè ane a—travay nan vil yo—epi yo pa bay granmoun yo okenn atansyon, oswa byen piti, pou konsèy, men yo pwoklame bagay yo menm yo chwazi bay pèp la, sa pote pwòp temwayaj pa li konsènan danje ki genyen lè yo ta konfye gason sa yo yon travay ki tèlman gran e mèvèye.»
"Christ is not dead. He will never suffer His work to be carried on in this strange way. Let the books alone. If any change is essential, God will have the harmony in that change consistent, but when a message has been entrusted to men with the large responsibilities involved, [God] demands faithfulness that will work by love and purify the soul. Elders Daniells and Prescott both need reconversion. A strange work has come in, and it is not in harmony with the work Christ came to our world to do; and all who are truly converted will work the works of Christ.
“Kris la pa mouri. Li p ap janm pèmèt yo kontinye travay Li nan fason dwòl sa a. Kite liv yo jan yo ye a. Si nenpòt chanjman vrèman nesesè, Bondye ap fè pou amoni an nan chanjman sa a rete ann akò; men lè yo konfye yon mesaj bay lèzòm ansanm ak gwo responsablite sa yo genyen ladan l, [Bondye] mande fidelite k ap aji pa lanmou e k ap pirifye nanm nan. Ansyen Daniells ak Prescott, toulede bezwen rekonvèsyon. Gen yon travay etranj ki antre, e li pa ann amoni ak travay Kris te vini nan mond nou an pou fè; epi tout moun ki vrèman konvèti yo va fè zèv Kris yo.
"We are everyone [to] work out the work which shall glorify the Father. We have come to the crisis—either to conform to the character of Jesus Christ right in this preparatory time or not attempt [it]. Elder Daniells, [you are not] to feel at liberty to let your voice be heard on high as you have done under similar circumstances. And understand, the president of a conference is not a ruler. He works in connection with the wise men who occupy the position as presidents whom God has accepted. He has not liberty to meddle with the writings in printed books from the pens that God has accepted. They are no longer to bear sway unless they show less of the ruling, dominating power. The crisis has come, for God will be dishonored.
“Nou tout dwe akonpli travay ki pral glorifye Papa a. Nou rive nan kriz la—swa pou nou konfòme karaktè nou ak karaktè Jezikri depi kounye a, nan tan preparasyon sa a, oswa pou nou pa eseye ditou. Frè Daniells, ou pa dwe santi ou gen libète pou fè vwa ou tande byen fò jan ou te fè sa nan sikonstans menm jan yo. Epi konprann byen, prezidan yon konferans pa yon chèf. Li travay an koneksyon avèk moun saj ki okipe pozisyon prezidan yo, moun Bondye te aksepte. Li pa gen libète pou mele nan sa ki ekri nan liv enprime ki soti anba plim moun Bondye te aksepte yo. Yo pa dwe kontinye gen dominasyon ankò sof si yo montre mwens nan lespri k ap dirije ak pouvwa k ap domine. Kriz la rive, paske Bondye pral dezonore.”
"How does the Lord look upon the unworked cities? Christ is in heaven. Now its acknowledgment is to be, —There is no kingly rule. And now is the crisis of this world. Now I am the Power to save or to destroy. Now is the time when the destiny of all is in My hands. I have given My life to save the world. And "I, if I be lifted up," the saving grace I shall impart will prove that all who will be fashioned after the divine similitude and will be one with Me shall work as I work with My power of redeeming grace.' Whoever will, [let him] take hold with his brethren to do the work given them to do when in responsible places under the counsel the Lord gives, and seek most earnestly to work in complete harmony with Him who so loved the world He gave His life a full sacrifice for the saving of the world. I speak to our ministers, that as they enter upon the work in our cities let there be a calm sacredness attending the ministry of the Word. We cannot make the proper impression upon the minds of the people if we . . . [Lower third of this page left blank.]
“Kijan Seyè a gade vil ki pa janm travay yo? Kris la nan syèl la. Koulye a, rekonesans li dwe sa a, —Pa gen okenn règ wayal. E kounye a se kriz monn sa a. Kounye a, Mwen se Pouvwa a pou sove oswa pou detwi. Kounye a se tan kote sò tout moun nan men Mwen. Mwen bay lavi Mwen pou sove mond lan. E ‘Mwen menm, si yo leve Mwen anlè,’ gras delivrans Mwen pral bay la ap pwouve ke tout moun ki va fòme dapre resanblans diven an epi ki va fè youn avèk Mwen, yo va travay jan Mwen travay avèk pouvwa gras redantè Mwen an.” Nenpòt moun ki vle, [se pou li] mete men ansanm ak frè li yo pou fè travay yo te ba yo pou yo fè lè yo nan plas responsablite anba konsèy Seyè a bay, epi chèche avèk pi gran dilijans pou yo travay nan amoni konplè avèk Li menm ki te tèlman renmen mond lan, Li te bay lavi Li kòm yon sakrifis nèt ale pou delivrans mond lan. Mwen pale ak minis nou yo, pou lè y ap antre nan travay la nan vil nou yo, se pou yon sakralite kalm akonpaye ministè Pawòl la. Nou pa kapab fè enpresyon ki apwopriye sou lespri pèp la si nou . . . [Tyè anba paj sa a te rete vid.]
"I copy from my Diary. The truth as it is in Jesus—talk it, pray it, believe every word in its simplicity. What would you gain if mistakes are brought before the men who have departed from the faith and given heed to seducing spirits, men who were not long ago with us in the faith? Will you stand on the devil's side? Give your attention to the unworked fields. A world-wide work is before us. I was given representations of John Kellogg.
“Mwen kopye soti nan Jounal mwen an. Verite a jan li ye nan Jezi—pale li, priye li, kwè chak mo ladan l nan senplisite li. Ki sa nou ta genyen si erè yo ta mete devan moun ki te kite lafwa a epi ki te koute lespri sediktè, moun ki pa t gen anpil tan depi yo te avèk nou nan lafwa a? Èske w ap kanpe sou bò dyab la? Bay atansyon nou a chan ki poko travay yo. Yon travay atravè lemonn antye devan nou. Yo te ban m reprezantasyon konsènan John Kellogg.”
"A very attractive personage was representing the ideas of the specious arguments that he was presenting, sentiments different from the genuine Bible truth. And those who are hungering and thirsting after something new were advancing ideas [so specious] that Elder Prescott was in great danger. Elder Daniells was in great danger [of] becoming wrapped in a delusion that if these sentiments could be spoken everywhere it would be as a new world.
“Yon pèsonaj trè atiran t ap reprezante lide agiman twonpè li t ap prezante yo, santiman ki diferan ak verite otantik Bib la. Epi sila yo ki t ap grangou ak swaf apre yon bagay nouvo t ap avanse lide [tèlman twonpè] ke Frè Prescott te nan gwo danje. Frè Daniells te nan gwo danje [pou] vin anvlope nan yon ilizyon, kòmsi si santiman sa yo te kapab pale tout kote, sa t ap tankou yon nouvo mond.
"Yes, it would, but while their minds were thus absorbed I was shown that Brother Daniells and Brother Prescott were weaving into their experience sentiments of a spiritual[istic] appearance and drawing our people to beautiful sentiments that would deceive, if possible, the very elect."
“Wi, sa t ap fè sa vre, men pandan lespri yo t ap okipe konsa, yo te montre m ke Frè Daniells ak Frè Prescott t ap tise nan eksperyans pa yo santiman ki te gen aparans espirityèl[ist], epi yo t ap atire pèp nou an bay bèl santiman ki ta twonpe, si sa te posib, menm eli yo.”
The very elect is not going to be deceived, but there are going to be people who are standing with the very elect that are going to get deceived. The very elect are the wise virgins. The foolish virgins are going to get deceived, right?
Vrè eli yo pa pral twonpe, men pral gen moun ki kanpe ansanm ak vrè eli yo ki pral twonpe. Vrè eli yo se vyèj saj yo. Vyèj sòt yo pral twonpe, pa vre?
And as the wise virgins in this time period, when the temptation is there to deceive the very elect, as the wise virgins are receiving the outpouring of the Holy Spirit, what are the foolish virgins receiving? The strong delusion of 2 Thessalonians. We will deal with that, too, in connection with the Daily.
Epi kòm vyèj saj yo nan peryòd tan sa a, lè tantasyon an la pou twonpe menm eli yo, pandan vyèj saj yo ap resevwa efizyon Sentespri a, kisa vyèj sòt yo ap resevwa? Gwo awogans 2 Tesalonisyen an. Nou pral trete sa tou, an rapò ak Sakrifis Kontinyèl la.
—"were weaving into their experience sentiments of a spiritual[istic] appearance and drawing our people to beautiful sentiments that would deceive, if possible, the very elect."
—«t ap tise nan eksperyans yo santiman ki te gen yon aparans espirityèl[is], epi yo t ap atire pèp nou an pa bèl santiman ki ta twonpe, si sa te posib, menm eli yo.»
What is the very bottom line of spiritualism?
Ki sa ki vrè pwen esansyèl espirityalis la?
When it comes to the story of King Saul, what did Samuel say? "Rebellion is as witchcraft." Rebellion is witchcraft.
Lè li rive nan istwa Wa Sayil la, ki sa Samyèl te di? “Rebelyon se tankou maji.” Rebelyon se maji.
Where does Saul end up?
Ki kote Sayil fini?
FROM THE AUDIENCE: With the witch of Endor.
SOTI NAN ASISTANS LAN: Avèk sòsyè Endò a.
With the witch of Endor.
Ak maji Endò a.
What was it that King Sault did to produce this train of events that leads him to the witch of Endor? He set his word above God's Word. He had been told what to do, but he went ahead and he did what he wanted to do.
Ki sa Wa Sòl te fè ki te pwodui seri evènman sa yo ki mennen li kay sòsyè Endò a? Li te mete pwòp pawòl pa l pi wo pase Pawòl Bondye a. Yo te di li sa pou l fè, men li te kontinye, e li te fè sa li te vle fè.
The very bottom line of spiritualism is placing your word above God's Word. That is where it all starts. That is witchcraft.
Liy prensipal menm nan espirityalis se mete pawòl pa ou pi wo pase Pawòl Bondye a. Se la tout bagay kòmanse. Se sa ki maji.
Witchcraft is identifying how Satan brings you under his influence. How he entrances you it is a magical term dealing with magical deception.
Majik se idantifye kijan Satan mete ou anba enfliyans li. Kijan li anchante ou, se yon tèm majik ki gen rapò ak twonpri majik.
When you are bewitched, who is the first to become bewitched? The witch. It all starts when I place my word above God's Word. That is witchcraft, that is rebellion, and I am the one that has become bewitched. And that is what happened to Daniells and Prescott.
Lè yo fè ou anba anchantman, kiyès ki premye moun ki vin anba anchantman an? Se moun k ap fè maji a. Tout bagay kòmanse lè mwen mete pawòl pa m anlè Pawòl Bondye a. Sa se maji, sa se rebelyon, e se mwen menm ki vin anba anchantman an. E se sa menm ki te rive Daniells ak Prescott.
And what sentiments were Daniells and Prescott trying to bring in when this was happening? A wrong view of the Daily.
E ki santiman Daniells ak Prescott t ap eseye fè antre pandan sa t ap pase a? Yon move konpreyansyon sou Sakrifis Kontinyèl la.
And what is the true view of the Daily? Is that it is Paganism, and Paganism is the religion of self-exaltation. It is a religion that began in the courts of Heaven when Satan, when Satan, set his word above God's Word and introduced into the history of mankind the mystery of iniquity.
E kisa vrè konpreyansyon sou “Perpétuel” la? Se ke li se payanis, e payanis se relijyon egzaltasyon pwòp tèt li. Se yon relijyon ki te kòmanse nan lakou Syèl la lè Satan, lè Satan, te mete pawòl pa li pi wo pase Pawòl Bondye a, epi li te entwodui nan istwa limanite mistè mechanste a.
The mystery of iniquity is Satan's work in bewitching us. It is Satan's work in getting us to place our word or his word above God's Word.
Mistè inikite a se travay Satan nan anvoute nou. Se travay Satan pou fè nou mete pawòl pa nou oswa pawòl pa li pi wo pase Pawòl Bondye a.
Do you follow my thought?
Èske ou suiv panse mwen an?
Look up iniquity. It will define iniquity in Strong's Concordance. And when you take it down to the root word, what is the root word for iniquity? Alpha, alpha. That is the Alpha Apostasy.
Chèche mo “inikite” a. Li pral defini “inikite” nan Konkòdans Strong la. E lè ou desann rive nan mo rasin nan, ki mo rasin pou “inikite” a? Alfa, alfa. Sa se Apostasya Alfa a.
When were Daniells and Prescott pushing this foolish view? In the time period of the Alpha Apostasy.
Kilè Daniells ak Prescott t ap pouse opinyon san konprann sa a? Pandan peryòd tan Apostas Alfa a.
So, do not miss what Sister White is saying here about deceiving the very elect and about reading Ezekiel 28. She knew what was going on. She knew that this Daily thing is something that is not only wrong doctrinally but it requires those who are going to preach the wrong view of the Daily to place their word above God's Word and puts them in the position where they are bewitched; and, therefore, they are a tool in the hand of Satan to bewitch others with their rebellion.
Se poutèt sa, pa neglije sa Sè White ap di la a konsènan twonpe menm eli yo ak konsènan lekti Ezekyèl 28. Li te konnen sa k t ap pase. Li te konnen ke kestyon sa a konsènan “Daily” a se yon bagay ki pa sèlman fo sou plan doktrinal, men li egzije tou pou moun ki pral preche move opinyon sou “Daily” a mete pwòp pawòl pa yo anlè Pawòl Bondye a, epi sa mete yo nan pozisyon kote yo anba anchantman; epi, kidonk, yo vin tounen yon zouti nan men Satan pou anchanter lòt moun pa mwayen rebelyon pa yo.
"I have to trace with my pen [the fact] that these brethren would see defects in their delusive ideas that would place the truth in an uncertainty; and [yet] they [would] stand out as [if they had] great spiritual discernment. Now I am to tell them [that] when I was shown this matter,"
“Mwen oblije trase ak plim mwen [reyalite a] ke frè sa yo ta wè defo nan lide twonpe yo ki ta mete verite a nan ensètitid; e [menm lè sa a] yo [ta] kanpe deyò tankou [si yo te gen] yon gwo disènman espirityèl. Kounye a, mwen dwe di yo [ke] lè yo te montre m zafè sa a,”
People say, "Oh, Ellen White, she doesn't have a position on the Daily."
Moun di: “O, Ellen White, li pa gen okenn pozisyon sou Konsènan Kontinyèl la.”
"when I was shown this matter when Elder Daniells was lifting up his voice like a trumpet in advocating his ideas of the —Daily,' the after results were presented. Our people were becoming confused. I saw the result, and then there were given me cautions that if Elder Daniells without respect to the outcome should thus be impressed and let himself believe he was under the inspiration of God,"—
“lè yo te montre m zafè sa a, lè Frè Daniells t ap leve vwa li tankou yon twonpèt pou soutni lide pa li yo sou —Daily,’ yo te prezante konsekans ki t ap vini apre yo. Pèp nou an t ap vin nan konfizyon. Mwen te wè rezilta a, epi lè sa a yo te ban m avètisman ke si Frè Daniells, san konsiderasyon pou sa ki t ap soti ladan l, ta konsa sibi enpresyon sa a epi kite tèt li kwè li te anba enspirasyon Bondye,”
This is spiritualism. He has placed his word above God's Word. He is believing that he is being inspired by God.
Sa a se espirityalis. Li mete pwòp pawòl li pi wo pase Pawòl Bondye a. Li kwè ke Bondye ap enspire li.
"that if Elder Daniells without respect to the outcome should thus be impressed and let himself believe he was under the inspiration of God, skepticism would be sown among our ranks everywhere, and we should be where Satan would carry his messages. Set unbelief and skepticism would be sown in human minds, and strangecrops of evil would take the place of truth. Ms 67, 1910, 1–8. Manuscript Release, volume 20, 17–22.
«que si le Frè Daniells, san konsidere rezilta a, ta konsa vin anba yon enpresyon e ta kite tèt li kwè li te anba enspirasyon Bondye, dout ak lespri kritik ta simen toupatou nan mitan nou, e nou t ap rive kote Satan t ap pote mesaj pa li yo. Enkredilite ak dout byen tabli t ap simen nan lespri imen, e rekòt etranj mechanste t ap pran plas verite a. Ms 67, 1910, 1–8. Manuscript Release, volim 20, 17–22. »
The strange crops of evil are growing all over Adventism today.
Rekòt etranj mechanste yo ap pouse toupatou nan Advantis jodi a.
Ellen White places her endorsement on the Pioneer understanding of the 2520.
Ellen White mete apwobasyon li sou konpreyansyon Pyonye yo konsènan 2520 la.
Ellen White places her endorsement on the Pioneer understanding that the Daily in the Book of Daniel represents Paganism.
Ellen White mete apwobasyon li sou konpreyansyon Pyonye yo ke “Sakrifis Kontinyèl” la nan liv Danyèl la reprezante Paganis.