Habakkuk's Two Tables 4 of 95
Matafura Mawiri a Habakuki 4 ya 95
For me it is pretty difficult to get through eight pages of notes in an hour's presentation, roughly. And if you will notice, we have 20 pages; so, I am just letting you know that I do not intend to read these notes. I intend to read some of these passages in here for those who are watching on LiveStream that can download the notes; and for those that ultimately watch this on DVD that they have this in the record for themselves, if they do not already have these articles available to them. What we are dealing with is Habakkuk's Two Tables, and at this point all we are doing is trying to demonstrate that Ellen White was in agreement with the truths represented on this 1843 Chart.
Kwa upande wangu, ni vigumu sana kupitia kurasa nane za maelezo katika wasilisho la takriban saa moja. Na mtakapotambua, tuna kurasa 20; kwa hiyo, ninawajulisha tu kwamba sikusudii kusoma maelezo haya yote. Ninakusudia kusoma baadhi ya vifungu vilivyomo humu kwa ajili ya wale wanaotazama kupitia LiveStream ambao wanaweza kupakua maelezo haya; na kwa ajili ya wale ambao hatimaye watatazama hili kwenye DVD, ili wawe na jambo hili katika kumbukumbu kwa ajili yao wenyewe, ikiwa hawana tayari makala hizi kwa matumizi yao. Kile tunachoshughulikia ni Meza Mbili za Habakuki, na katika hatua hii yote tunayofanya ni kujaribu kuonyesha kwamba Ellen White alikuwa katika upatano na kweli zinazowakilishwa kwenye Chati hii ya 1843.
The first three presentations we concluded yesterday were showing that Ellen White clearly and specifically endorses the 2520 time prophecy as valid in Early Writings, page 236.
Ekyerɛkyerɛ abiɛsa a edi kan a yɛde wieeɛ nnora no kyerɛe sɛ Ellen White de pefee na pɔtee so penee so sɛ 2520 bere nkɔmhyɛ no yɛ nokware wɔ Early Writings, kratafa 236.
When speaking of the first disappointment in March of 1844, she says that after the disappointment the Millerites continued to study the Bible, and they discovered that the same evidence that had led them to predict 1843 for the 2520, the 2300, and the 1335, that same evidence was then recognized in 1844, to prove that these prophetic periods ended in 1844. And we discussed how the only prophetic periods that she could be speaking of are these two [referring to the 2520 and the 2300 on the 1843 Chart], not the 1335. The 1335 started in the AD time period; it ended in 1843. Therefore, she is putting her endorsement upon the understanding of the 2520 and the 2300-year prophecy.
在谈到1844年3月第一次失望时,她说,失望之后,米勒派继续查考圣经,并且他们发现,那曾引导他们将2520、2300和1335预定于1843年的同一证据,此时也被认定存在于1844年,用以证明这些预言时期是在1844年结束的。我们也讨论过,她所可能指的预言时期,惟有这两个〔指1843年图表上的2520和2300〕,而不是1335。1335开始于公元时代;它于1843年结束。因此,她是在对2520和2300年预言的理解表示认可。
And then she went on further to say that during that time period, as they began to prove that three time prophecies ended in 1844, this is what caused the persecution that drove the Millerites out of the church. So, it is not a coincidence that here at the end of the world men and women are being persecuted in the Adventist Church for presenting the information for why the 2520 ended in 1844.
Phir us ne mazeed yeh kaha ke us arsay ke dauran, jab unhon ne yeh sabit karna shuru kiya ke teen zamānī peshgoiyan 1844 mein khatam huiṅ, to yahi baat us ziyādati ka sabab bani jis ne Millerites ko kalīsiyā se bāhar nikal diya. Pas, yeh koi ittifāq nahīṅ ke yahan duniyā ke ikhtitām par mard aur aurateṅ Adventist Kalīsiyā mein is liye sitam ka nishānah ban rahe hain ke woh yeh malūmāt pesh karte hain ke 2520 1844 mein kyūṅ khatam hua.
Directed by the Hand of the Lord
Se dirigeant par la main du Seigneur
So, now we are moving to another subject, this one right here [referring to AD508 on the 1843 Chart]. You will find, if you have not looked at these Charts, Sister White says of this 1843 Chart, "I saw that the Lord directed in this Chart," and she says of this 1850 Chart that God was in the publishment of this Chart. So, she has told us that God was involved in the production of both of these Charts, and how they are structured was humanly purposeful. The Millerites did it on purpose, but it was by God's design.
Ainsi, nous passons maintenant à un autre sujet, celui-ci même [en référence à AD508 sur la Charte de 1843]. Vous constaterez, si vous n’avez pas examiné ces Chartes, que Sister White dit au sujet de cette Charte de 1843 : « I saw that the Lord directed in this Chart », et elle dit de cette Charte de 1850 que Dieu était dans la publication de cette Charte. Ainsi, elle nous a dit que Dieu était impliqué dans la production de ces deux Chartes, et que la manière dont elles sont structurées procédait d’une intention humaine délibérée. Les millérites l’ont fait intentionnellement, mais c’était selon le dessein de Dieu.
Up here, from 677BC down to what they believed, AD1843, this is the column [referring to the second column right the left on the 1843 Chart] that defines the 2520, that begins in 677BC and they thought ended in AD1843.
Ici, de 677 av. J.-C. jusqu’à ce qu’ils croyaient être 1843 apr. J.-C., c’est la colonne [faisant référence à la deuxième colonne à droite de la colonne de gauche sur la carte de 1843] qui définit les 2520, laquelle commence en 677 av. J.-C. et qu’ils pensaient se terminer en 1843 apr. J.-C.
And they retained this graphic illustration on the 1850 Chart, from here [referring to the third column from the left] 677BC to here, AD1844. This is the column of the 2520 that exists on both Charts.
E mpe bazalaki kobatela elilingi wana ya polele na Carte ya 1850, longwa awa [kolobela kolone ya misato banda na loboko ya mwasi] 677 av. J.-C. kino awa, 1844 ap. J.-C. Oyo ezali kolone ya 2520 oyo ezali na ba Carte nyonso mibale.
And right in the middle of these columns is the cross, in both instances.
Et au beau milieu de ces colonnes se trouve la croix, dans les deux cas.
And right below the cross is the reference to the Daily. And the symbol of the Daily, Paganism, the root of the Pagan religion, is self-exaltation; and, this is where you can see the Lord's hand in it, not necessarily the human hand on both of these charts.
Et juste au-dessous de la croix se trouve la référence au Continu. Et le symbole du Continu, le paganisme, la racine de la religion païenne, est l’exaltation de soi; et c’est ici que l’on peut voir la main du Seigneur à l’œuvre, et non nécessairement la main humaine, sur ces deux tableaux.
For you and me, or anyone, to have our self-exaltation removed from us, we must come to the foot of the cross, reflected on both of these Charts. That lesson is illustrated.
لكي تُنزَع منّا، منّي ومنك أو من أيّ إنسان، رفعةُ الذات، لا بدّ لنا أن نأتي إلى أسفل الصليب، كما هو مُصوَّر في كلتا هاتين الخريطتين. وذلك الدرس مُوضَّح.
And, of course, when we talk about the columns of the 2520 with the cross in the middle, we know that in fulfillment of Daniel 9, when Christ came to confirm the covenant with many for one week, that one week equates to 2520 days, and in the midst of that week He was crucified. So, in the middle of these columns on each of these Charts we see the cross, and these are inferring the 2520 days that Christ confirmed the covenant with many.
Na, mazava ho azy, rehefa miresaka ny andryn’ny 2520 izay misy ny hazo fijaliana eo afovoany isika, dia fantatsika fa, ho fahatanterahan’ny Daniela 9, rehefa tonga Kristy mba hanamafy ny fanekena amin’ny maro mandritra ny herinandro iray, io herinandro iray io dia mitovy amin’ny 2520 andro, ary teo afovoan’io herinandro io no nanomboana Azy tamin’ny hazo fijaliana. Koa eo afovoan’ireo andry ireo amin’ny tsirairay amin’ireo tabilao ireo no ahitantsika ny hazo fijaliana, ary ireo dia manondro ny 2520 andro izay nanamafisan’i Kristy ny fanekena tamin’ny maro.
So, now we are going to take up the Daily and Ellen White's endorsement of it.
Så vil vi nu tage spørgsmålet om „det daglige“ op og Ellen Whites stadfæstelse af det.
"September 23, the Lord showed me that He had stretched out His hand the second time to recover the remnant of His people, and that efforts must be redoubled in this gathering time. In the scattering, Israel was smitten and torn, but now in the gathering time God will heal and bind up His people. In the scattering, efforts made to spread the truth had but little effect, accomplished but little or nothing; but in the gathering, when God has set His hand to gather His people, efforts to spread the truth will have their designed effect. All should be united and zealous in the work. I saw that it was wrong for any to refer to the scattering for examples to govern us now in the gathering; for if God should do no more for us now than He did then, Israel would never be gathered. I have seen that the 1843 chart was directed by the hand of the Lord, and that it should not be altered; that the figures were as He wanted them; that His hand was over and hid a mistake in some of the figures, so that none could see it, until His hand was removed.
២៣ កញ្ញា ព្រះអម្ចាស់បានបង្ហាញដល់ខ្ញុំថា ទ្រង់បានលូកព្រះហស្តរបស់ទ្រង់ជាលើកទីពីរ ដើម្បីសង្គ្រោះសំណល់នៃប្រជាជនរបស់ទ្រង់មកវិញ ហើយថា នៅក្នុងពេលនៃការប្រមូលផ្ដុំនេះ ត្រូវតែបង្កើនការខិតខំឲ្យទ្វេដង។ ក្នុងពេលនៃការបែកខ្ចាត់ខ្ចាយ អ៊ីស្រាអែលត្រូវបានវាយប្រហារ និងត្រូវបានហែកហួរ ប៉ុន្តែឥឡូវនេះ ក្នុងពេលនៃការប្រមូលផ្ដុំ ព្រះជាម្ចាស់នឹងប្រោសឲ្យជាសះស្បើយ និងរុំរបួសប្រជាជនរបស់ទ្រង់។ ក្នុងពេលនៃការបែកខ្ចាត់ខ្ចាយ ការខិតខំដែលបានធ្វើឡើងដើម្បីផ្សព្វផ្សាយសេចក្តីពិត មានប្រសិទ្ធផលតិចតួចប៉ុណ្ណោះ សម្រេចបានតិចតួច ឬមិនសម្រេចអ្វីសោះ; ប៉ុន្តែក្នុងពេលនៃការប្រមូលផ្ដុំ នៅពេលដែលព្រះជាម្ចាស់បានដាក់ព្រះហស្តរបស់ទ្រង់ ដើម្បីប្រមូលប្រជាជនរបស់ទ្រង់ ការខិតខំដើម្បីផ្សព្វផ្សាយសេចក្តីពិតនឹងមានប្រសិទ្ធផលតាមគោលបំណងដែលបានកំណត់។ មនុស្សគ្រប់រូបគួរតែមានសាមគ្គីភាព និងមានចិត្តក្លៀវក្លាក្នុងកិច្ចការ។ ខ្ញុំបានឃើញថា វាជាការខុសសម្រាប់អ្នកណាម្នាក់ក្នុងការយោងទៅពេលនៃការបែកខ្ចាត់ខ្ចាយ ដើម្បីយកជាគំរូមកគ្រប់គ្រងយើងនៅពេលនេះក្នុងពេលនៃការប្រមូលផ្ដុំ; ដ្បិតបើព្រះជាម្ចាស់មិនធ្វើអ្វីច្រើនជាងដែលទ្រង់បានធ្វើសម្រាប់យើងឥឡូវនេះ ដូចដែលទ្រង់បានធ្វើនៅពេលនោះទេ នោះអ៊ីស្រាអែលនឹងមិនដែលត្រូវបានប្រមូលផ្ដុំឡើយ។ ខ្ញុំបានឃើញថា តារាងឆ្នាំ 1843 ត្រូវបានដឹកនាំដោយព្រះហស្តរបស់ព្រះអម្ចាស់ ហើយថា វាមិនគួរត្រូវបានកែប្រែឡើយ; ថា តួលេខទាំងនោះគឺដូចដែលទ្រង់ចង់ឲ្យវាជា; ថា ព្រះហស្តរបស់ទ្រង់សណ្ឋិតនៅលើវា និងបានលាក់កំហុសមួយនៅក្នុងតួលេខខ្លះៗ ដូច្នេះគ្មាននរណាម្នាក់អាចឃើញវាបានទេ រហូតដល់ព្រះហស្តរបស់ទ្រង់ត្រូវបានដកចេញ។
"Then I saw in relation to the —daily' (Daniel 8:12) that the word —sacrifice' was supplied by man's wisdom, and does not belong to the text, and that the Lord gave the correct view of it to those who gave the judgment hour cry. When union existed, before 1844, nearly all were united on the correct view of the —daily'; but in the confusion since 1844, other views have been embraced, and darkness and confusion have followed. Time has not been a test since 1844, and it will never again be a test.
Puis je vis, au sujet du « perpétuel » (Daniel 8:12), que le mot « sacrifice » avait été ajouté par la sagesse humaine, qu’il n’appartient pas au texte, et que le Seigneur en donna la juste compréhension à ceux qui proclamèrent le cri de l’heure du jugement. Lorsqu’il y avait unité, avant 1844, presque tous étaient unis sur la juste compréhension du « perpétuel » ; mais, dans la confusion qui a régné depuis 1844, d’autres vues ont été adoptées, et les ténèbres et la confusion ont suivi. Le temps n’a pas été une épreuve depuis 1844, et il ne sera plus jamais une épreuve.
"The Lord has shown me that the message of the third angel must go, and be proclaimed to the scattered children of the Lord, but it must not be hung on time. I saw that some were getting a false excitement, arising from preaching time; but the third angel's message is stronger than time can be. I saw that this message can stand on its own foundation and needs not time to strengthen it; and that it will go in mighty power, and do its work, and will be cut short in righteousness.
Le Seigneur m’a montré que le message du troisième ange doit aller, et être proclamé aux enfants dispersés du Seigneur, mais qu’il ne doit pas être suspendu au temps. J’ai vu que quelques-uns s’abandonnaient à une fausse excitation, née de la prédication du temps; mais le message du troisième ange est plus fort que le temps ne peut l’être. J’ai vu que ce message peut subsister sur son propre fondement et qu’il n’a pas besoin du temps pour le fortifier; et qu’il avancera avec une grande puissance, accomplira son œuvre, et sera abrégé dans la justice.
"Then I was pointed to some who are in the great error of believing that it is their duty to go to Old Jerusalem, and think they have a work to do there before the Lord comes. Such a view is calculated to take the mind and interest from the present work of the Lord, under the message of the third angel; for those who think that they are yet to go to Jerusalem will have their minds there, and their means will be withheld from the cause of present truth to get themselves and others there. I saw that such a mission would accomplish no real good, that it would take a long while to make a very few of the Jews believe even in the first advent of Christ, much more to believe in His second advent. I saw that Satan had greatly deceived some in this thing and that souls all around them in this land could be helped by them and led to keep the commandments of God, but they were leaving them to perish. I also saw that Old Jerusalem never would be built up; and that Satan was doing his utmost to lead the minds of the children of the Lord into these things now, in the gathering time, to keep them from throwing their whole interest into the present work of the Lord, and to cause them to neglect the necessary preparation for the day of the Lord." Early Writings, 74–76.
“そのとき私は、主が来られる前に自分たちが旧エルサレムへ行くのは自らの義務であり、そこでなすべき働きがあると信じるという、大きな誤りの中にいるある人々に目を向けさせられた。そのような見解は、第三天使の使命のもとにある主の現在の働きから、心と思いと関心をそらす性質のものである。というのは、なおエルサレムへ行かなければならないと考える者たちは、心をそこに向け、その地へ自分自身や他の人々を行かせるために、現在の真理の働きのための資金を差し控えるようになるからである。私は、そのような使命は何一つ真の益をもたらさず、ユダヤ人のごく少数にキリストの初臨をさえ信じさせるのにも長い時を要し、ましてその再臨を信じさせるにはなおさらであるのを見た。私は、この件においてサタンがある人々を大いに欺いており、この国にいる彼らの周囲の魂は、彼らによって助けられ、神の戒めを守るよう導かれうるのに、彼らはその人々を滅びるにまかせているのを見た。私はまた、旧エルサレムが再び建て直されることは決してないこと、そしてサタンが、今この集めの時に、主の子らの思いをこれらの事柄へ向けさせるために全力を尽くしており、それによって彼らが主の現在の働きに自分たちの全関心を注ぎ出すことを妨げ、また主の日のために必要な備えを怠らせようとしていることを見た。” Early Writings, 74–76.
A few things that we are going to show is we have a passage from Early Writings, page 74. We have dealt with this before. Many of these things we will be dealing with in this presentation, we have dealt with before; but, most of us do not understand that this passage in Early Writings went through an evolution. As it exists in the book Early Writings, men will use what is in Early Writings to misrepresent the truth. But, if you go back to the original source documents, the logic for their misrepresenting the truth is removed.
Un peu de ce que nous allons montrer : nous avons un passage de *Premiers Écrits*, page 74. Nous avons déjà traité cela auparavant. Plusieurs des points que nous aborderons dans cette présentation, nous les avons déjà examinés ; mais la plupart d’entre nous ne comprennent pas que ce passage de *Premiers Écrits* a subi une évolution. Tel qu’il se présente dans le livre *Premiers Écrits*, des hommes se serviront de ce qui s’y trouve pour déformer la vérité. Mais si l’on remonte aux documents originaux, la logique sur laquelle ils s’appuient pour déformer la vérité disparaît.
So, there is much that can be said about this. I am only going to identify a couple of points, because we are dealing with the Daily here. But, in this passage from Early Writings, I would have you take note of the very first two thoughts, September 23rd.
Por tanto, mucho puede decirse acerca de esto. Solo voy a señalar un par de puntos, porque aquí estamos tratando con el Continuo. Pero, en este pasaje de Primeros Escritos, quisiera que notaran los dos primeros pensamientos, 23 de septiembre.
Okay. September 23rd, if you are not familiar with it, you can put 1850 there; September 23, 1850. This has an impact on correctly understanding the Daily.
Sawa. Septemba 23, ikiwa huifahamu, unaweza kuweka 1850 hapo; Septemba 23, 1850. Hili lina athari katika kuielewa Sawasawa Dhabihu ya Kila Siku.
The end of the first paragraph is a statement that we have dealt with here already for the past few days, "I have seen that the 1843 chart was directed by the hand of the Lord, and that it should not be altered; that the figures were as He wanted them; that His hand was over and hid a mistake in some of the figures, so that none could see it until His hand was removed."
De slotzin van de eerste alinea is een verklaring waarmee wij ons hier de afgelopen dagen reeds hebben beziggehouden: „Ik heb gezien dat de kaart van 1843 door de hand des Heeren werd geleid, en dat zij niet veranderd mocht worden; dat de getallen waren zoals Hij ze hebben wilde; dat Zijn hand erover was en een vergissing in sommige van de getallen verborg, zodat niemand die kon zien totdat Zijn hand werd weggenomen.”
The second paragraph says, "Then I saw in relation to the —daily' (Daniel 8:12) . . . ." Now, I want you to just put in your memory bank—we will deal with this no doubt later, the Lord willing—when the Daily is represented on the 1843 Chart, right here, it says, "taking away the daily"; it says, "Daniel 12: 11 and 12." On the 1850 Chart, when it is dealing with the Daily, it says, "pagan dominion or when the daily taken away, Daniel 11:31." So, on these two Charts, the emphasis that they are identifying from Daniel 11:31 and Daniel 12:11 is the taking away of the Daily. All right?
Le deuxième paragraphe dit : « Puis je vis relativement au “continuel” (Daniel 8:12) . . . . » Or, je veux que vous gardiez simplement cela en mémoire — nous y reviendrons sans doute plus tard, si le Seigneur le permet — lorsque le Continuel est représenté sur la Charte de 1843, ici même, il est écrit : « l’abolition du continuel » ; il est indiqué : « Daniel 12:11 et 12. » Sur la Charte de 1850, lorsqu’il est question du Continuel, il est écrit : « domination païenne, ou lorsque le continuel est ôté, Daniel 11:31. » Ainsi, sur ces deux Chartes, l’accent qu’elles mettent en évidence à partir de Daniel 11:31 et de Daniel 12:11, c’est l’abolition du Continuel. D’accord ?
And in Daniel 11:31 and Daniel 12:11, the Hebrew word that is translated as "take away" is sur, and it means "to take away"; it means "to remove."
Na katika Danieli 11:31 na Danieli 12:11, neno la Kiebrania linalotafsiriwa kuwa “kuondoa” ni *sur*, nalo humaanisha “kuondoa”; humaanisha “kuweka mbali.”
But, in Daniel 8, in verse 11, where it says the Daily is taken away, it is a different Hebrew word. It is rum, and it means "to lift up and to exalt."
Lakini, katika Danieli 8, katika aya ya 11, ambapo inasema ya kwamba Huduma ya Kila Siku imeondolewa, ni neno tofauti la Kiebrania. Ni *rum*, na maana yake ni “kuinua juu na kutukuza.”
So, William Miller used the Cruden's Concordance, and the Cruden's Concordance does not give you any insight on the Hebrew or the Greek. So, the Lord was directing the Millerites; because, of the three places where the Daily is referenced in the Book of Daniel, Daniel chapter 8, Daniel chapter 11, and Daniel chapter 12, in chapters 11 and 12 the Hebrew that is translated "take away" means "take away." And that is what they are emphasizing on these Charts, is when Paganism was taken away the 1290 and the 1335 prophecies would begin.
Ainsi, William Miller utilisait la Concordance de Cruden, et la Concordance de Cruden ne vous donne aucun éclairage sur l’hébreu ni sur le grec. Ainsi, le Seigneur dirigeait les millérites; car, des trois passages où le Continuel est mentionné dans le livre de Daniel — Daniel chapitre 8, Daniel chapitre 11 et Daniel chapitre 12 —, dans les chapitres 11 et 12, l’hébreu qui est traduit par « ôter » signifie « ôter ». Et c’est là ce qu’ils mettent en relief sur ces tableaux: lorsque le paganisme fut ôté, les prophéties des 1290 et des 1335 commenceraient.
But, in Daniel 8, when the Daily is taken away, it is not talking about being removed; it is talking about the religion of Paganism being lifted up and exalted. So, the Millerites got it right. They referenced the two chapters in Daniel that are about the Daily being taken away.
Mais, dans Daniel 8, lorsque le Continuel est ôté, il ne s’agit pas d’un enlèvement ; il s’agit de la religion du paganisme qui est élevée et exaltée. Ainsi, les millérites ont vu juste. Ils ont fait référence aux deux chapitres de Daniel qui traitent du Continuel ôté.
But here in Early Writings and as we go back through the original source documents you are going to see in this chapter that originally this reference of Daniel 8:12 is not there. I do not know that Ellen White told them to include that in there in 1882 when they printed Early Writings, or if one of the editors put it in. I am not threatened by it, because it is not talking about the taking away here.
Ale ici te Early Writings, eti yusave go bak long olketa original source documents, bae yu lukim long disfala chapter dat long beginning, disfala reference bilong Daniel 8:12 hem no stap long there. Mi no save sapos Ellen White nao talem olketa for putim dat insaed long 1882 taem olketa printim Early Writings, o sapos wanfala long olketa editors nao addim. Mi no feel threatened long dat, from hem no toktok abaotem dat “taking away” long hia.
It says in the second paragraph, "Then I saw in relation to the —daily' (Daniel 8:12) that the word —sacrifice' was supplied by man's wisdom, and does not belong to the text, and that the Lord gave the correct view of it to those who gave the judgment hour cry."
Во втором абзаце говорится: «Затем я увидела в отношении “ежедневного” (Даниил 8:12), что слово “жертва” было добавлено человеческой мудростью и не принадлежит тексту, и что Господь дал правильное понимание этого тем, кто возвещал весть о часе суда».
Now, we had a meeting with some of the prominent pastors in Germany and some of the seminary teachers from Germany several years ago, in Germany, where I presented and they threw their stones at this message.
Or, il y a plusieurs années, nous avons eu, en Allemagne, une réunion avec quelques-uns des pasteurs éminents d’Allemagne ainsi qu’avec certains professeurs de séminaire allemands, où j’ai présenté, et ils ont lancé leurs pierres contre ce message.
And there was a pastor there from Italy, and he expressed one of the foolish arguments about this verse. And what he said was—and there are several foolish arguments about the Daily, so you find this foolish argument used often and we will put it in the record here. It says, "Then I saw in relation to the —daily' (Daniel 8:12) that the word —sacrifice' was supplied by man's wisdom, and does not belong to the text, and that the Lord gave the correct view of it to those who gave the judgment hour cry." Here is the foolish argument: They say Ellen White is not endorsing the Daily here; she is endorsing the Pioneer understanding that the word sacrifice was added by human wisdom and does not belong to the text. Okay? So, this Italian pastor is making this argument.
E vi era là un pastore dall’Italia, ed egli espose uno degli argomenti insensati riguardo a questo versetto. E ciò che disse fu questo—e vi sono diversi argomenti insensati riguardo al “continuo”, perciò troverete spesso impiegato questo argomento insensato, e noi lo metteremo qui agli atti. Dice: «Poi vidi, in relazione al —continuo” (Daniele 8:12), che la parola —sacrificio” fu aggiunta dalla sapienza umana, e non appartiene al testo, e che il Signore ne diede la corretta comprensione a coloro che proclamarono il messaggio dell’ora del giudizio». Ecco l’argomento insensato: Essi dicono che qui Ellen White non sta avallando il “continuo”; sta avallando la comprensione dei Pionieri secondo cui la parola sacrificio fu aggiunta dalla sapienza umana e non appartiene al testo. Va bene? Dunque, questo pastore italiano sta avanzando tale argomento.
And I said, "Well, explain the next sentence to me, Pastor."
Et je dis : « Eh bien, expliquez-moi la phrase suivante, Pasteur. »
The next sentence says, "When union existed, before 1844, nearly all were united on the correct view of the —daily'; . . . ." This is not about the correct view of the word sacrifice being added by human wisdom. Ellen White here—and this is a hard one, this is a hard one for these people that are refusing to hear and are refusing to see in Adventism today. This paragraph, there are probably more theologians have lost their salvation over this paragraph than any other paragraph in the Spirit of Prophecy. I am not exaggerating; I think that is probably accurate.
Naar die volgende sin lui: “When union existed, before 1844, nearly all were united on the correct view of the ‘daily’; . . . .” Dit gaan nie oor die korrekte beskouing dat die woord sacrifice deur menslike wysheid bygevoeg is nie. Ellen White hier—en dit is ’n moeilike een, dit is ’n moeilike een vir hierdie mense wat vandag in die Adventisme weier om te hoor en weier om te sien. Hierdie paragraaf—daar is waarskynlik meer teoloë wat oor hierdie paragraaf hulle verlossing verloor het as oor enige ander paragraaf in die Gees van Profesie. Ek oordryf nie; ek meen dit is waarskynlik akkuraat.
In the early part of the 20th Century when the false view of the Daily is being introduced into Adventism, everyone that was fighting about it on both sides of the issue knew that they were fighting about this paragraph. When Stephen Haskell came to the defense of the Pioneer view that the Daily was Paganism, what did he do? He reprinted this 1843 Chart, and he put this paragraph on the bottom. So this paragraph is the focus of controversy, and it is here where many, many men have fallen on their swords and died.
Mwanzoni mwa karne ya 20, wakati mtazamo wa uongo kuhusu “Daily” ulipokuwa ukiingizwa katika Uadventista, kila mtu aliyekuwa akipigana juu yake, katika pande zote mbili za suala hilo, alijua kwamba walikuwa wakipigana kuhusu aya hii. Wakati Stephen Haskell alipokuja kuutetea mtazamo wa Waanzilishi kwamba “Daily” ilikuwa Upagani, alifanya nini? Aliichapisha tena Chati hii ya 1843, na akaweka aya hii chini. Kwa hiyo aya hii ndiyo kiini cha mabishano, na hapa ndipo watu wengi sana wameanguka juu ya panga zao wenyewe na kufa.
So, at a minimum level of what I want you to see here, because you have men like recently, Steve Wohlberg of White Horse Ministries, he has been opposing this message. And one of his arguments is, "Well, Ellen White never had a position on the Daily, so I don't have to have one," which was just an absolutely foolish position. But, even if we grant him the possibility that Ellen White did not have a position on it, what does she say in this quote? She says that the Pioneers had the correct view of it. Even if she did not know what it was, here she is saying that there is a correct view, which means there are a wrong view, maybe several wrong views.
དེ་ནི། ངས་ཁྱེད་རང་ལ་འདིར་མཐོང་བར་འདོད་པའི་དོན་གྱི་མཐའ་མཚམས་དམའ་ཤོས་ཀྱི་ཆ་ནས་བཤད་ན། ཉེ་བའི་དུས་སུ་ White Horse Ministries ཡི་ Steve Wohlberg ལྟ་བུའི་མི་ཚོས་འཕྲིན་འདིར་ཁ་གཏད་བྱེད་ཀྱི་ཡོད། ཁོའི་རྩོད་གཞི་ཞིག་ནི། “ཨེ་ལེན་ ཝཱའིཊ་ལ་ཉིན་རེའི་ཞེས་པ་ Daily ཐད་ལ་ལྟ་ཚུལ་གང་ཡང་མེད་པས། ང་ལའང་དེའི་ཐད་ལ་ལྟ་ཚུལ་ཞིག་ཡོད་དགོས་པ་མེད།” ཅེས་པ་ཡིན། དེ་ནི་ཡོངས་སུ་བླུན་པོའི་གནས་ཚུལ་ཞིག་ཁོ་ན་ཡིན། འོན་ཀྱང་། གལ་ཏེ་ང་ཚོས་ཁོ་ལ་ཨེ་ལེན་ ཝཱའིཊ་ཀྱིས་དེའི་ཐད་ལ་ལྟ་ཚུལ་ཞིག་མེད་པའི་སྲིད་པ་དེ་ཁས་ལེན་བྱས་ཀྱང་། ཁོ་མོས་འདིའི་ལུང་འདིར་ཅི་ཞིག་གསུངས་ཡོད་དམ། ཁོ་མོས་གསར་འཛུགས་པ་ཚོར་དེའི་ཐད་ཀྱི་ལྟ་ཚུལ་ཡང་དག་པ་ཡོད་ཅེས་གསུངས་ཡོད། གལ་ཏེ་ཁོ་མོས་དེ་གང་ཡིན་པ་མི་མཁྱེན་པ་ཡིན་ནའང་། འདིར་ཁོ་མོས་ལྟ་ཚུལ་ཡང་དག་པ་ཞིག་ཡོད་ཅེས་གསུངས་ཡོད། དེས་ན་ལྟ་ཚུལ་ནོར་བ་ཡང་ཡོད་དགོས་པ་ཡིན། ཕལ་ཆེར་ལྟ་ཚུལ་ནོར་བ་མང་པོའང་ཡོད་སྲིད།
You have men like Vance Ferrell. Vance Ferrell; people have confidence in Vance Ferrell's prophetic interpretations, and I do not know why. Vance Ferrell is not the only one but he is one of the men that says that the Daily represents both Paganism and Christ's Sanctuary ministry. Okay? He is saying that this symbol represents Satan and Christ.
Ɔwom sɛ wowɔ mmarima te sɛ Vance Ferrell. Vance Ferrell; nnipa wɔ ahotoso wɔ Vance Ferrell nkɔmhyɛ nkyerɛase mu, na minnim nea enti a. Vance Ferrell nko ara na ɔte saa no, nanso ɔyɛ mmarima no mu biako a wɔka sɛ “Daily” no gyina hɔ ma Abosonsom ne Kristo Ahyiae Kronkron no som adwuma nyinaa. Yiw? Ɔreka sɛ saa agyiraehyɛde yi gyina hɔ ma Satan ne Kristo.
What kind of discernment is being employed with that kind of reasoning?
Ni aina gani ya utambuzi inayotumiwa katika mantiki ya namna hiyo?
Okay, Sister White, no matter what the Daily represents here, she says there is a correct view. So, we can at least agree with that premise here, right?
حسنًا، يا أخت وايت، مهما كان ما يمثّله «المستمر» هنا، فهي تقول إن هناك فهمًا صحيحًا له. لذا، يمكننا على الأقل أن نتفق مع هذه المسلّمة هنا، أليس كذلك؟
"Then I saw in relation to the —daily' (Daniel 8:12) that the word —sacrifice' was supplied by man's wisdom, and does not belong to the text, and that the Lord gave the correct view of it to those who gave the judgment hour cry. When union exited, before 1844, nearly all were united on the correct view of the —daily'; but in the confusion since 1844, other views have been embraced,"—
“Kisha nikaona kuhusu lile —la siku zote’ (Danieli 8:12) kwamba neno —dhabihu’ liliongezwa kwa hekima ya mwanadamu, wala si sehemu ya maandishi, na kwamba Bwana aliwapa mtazamo ulio sahihi juu yake wale waliotoa kilio cha saa ya hukumu. Wakati umoja ulipokuwapo, kabla ya mwaka 1844, karibu wote walikuwa wameungana katika mtazamo sahihi wa lile —la siku zote’; lakini katika machafuko tangu mwaka 1844, mitazamo mingine imekubaliwa,”
This is what I told the Italian pastor. I said, "Okay. Can you give me any historical references where after 1844 there were other views about the word sacrifice that have been embraced?
Hii ndiyo niliyomwambia yule mchungaji wa Kiitaliano. Nikasema, “Sawa. Je, unaweza kunipa marejeo yoyote ya kihistoria ambapo, baada ya 1844, kumekuwapo mitazamo mingine kuhusu neno dhabihu ambayo imekubaliwa?
And he kind of backed out of that at this point.
Ve bu noktada bundan bir bakıma geri adım attı.
Since 1844 other views of the Daily have been embraced, and what have they produced? Darkness and confusion.
E 1844 căldis di aposton idas a „Daily”, e ce han produs? Tuneric e confuson.
Underline "darkness and confusion," because when Sister White further talks about the Daily, she talks about darkness and confusion, and we are going to show you some of those this morning.
「暗闇と混乱」に下線を引いてください。というのは、シスター・ホワイトがさらに「日ごとのもの」について語るとき、彼女は暗闇と混乱について述べており、今朝私たちはその幾つかをあなたがたにお示しするからです。
Take the wrong view of the Daily and it produces darkness and confusion.
Prendre une conception erronée du « sacrifice perpétuel » engendre les ténèbres et la confusion.
"Time has not been a test since 1844, and it will never again be a test."
« Depuis 1844, le temps n’a pas été une épreuve, et il ne le sera plus jamais. »
So, in connection with the Daily you see here, here is the argument. Here is the argument today; here is the argument that was introduced by Ellen White's son. It was introduced by others, but he is the one that put it into the historical record of Adventism. It is that when you read this passage, the context of time setting is what you need to understand.
Ainsi, en rapport avec le Continuel que vous voyez ici, voici l’argument. Voici l’argument aujourd’hui; voici l’argument qui fut introduit par le fils d’Ellen White. Il fut introduit par d’autres, mais c’est lui qui l’a consigné dans les annales historiques de l’adventisme. Cet argument est le suivant: lorsque vous lisez ce passage, c’est le contexte de la fixation du temps qu’il vous faut comprendre.
—"other views have been embraced,"—in concerning the Daily—"and darkness and confusion have followed. Time has not been a test since 1844, and it will never again be a test.
—«d’autres points de vue ont été adoptés»,—au sujet du Continuel—«et les ténèbres et la confusion en ont résulté. Le temps n’est plus une épreuve depuis 1844, et il ne le sera plus jamais.»
"The Lord has shown me that the message of the third angel must go, and be proclaimed to the scattered children of the Lord, but it must not be hung on time."
"Le Seigneur m’a montré que le message du troisième ange doit être porté et proclamé aux enfants dispersés du Seigneur, mais qu’il ne doit pas être suspendu au temps."
Do you see why Willy White is saying that we need to see the context of time-setting?
Veddel-e, miért mondja Willy White, hogy látnunk kell az időkitűzés kontextusát?
It talks about the confusion that the wrong views of the Daily produced, time has not been a test; and then there is a paragraph about time setting.
Il est question de la confusion qu’ont produite les conceptions erronées du « Daily » ; le temps n’a pas été une épreuve ; puis vient un paragraphe au sujet de la fixation de dates.
Okay, this is what you have to understand: This paragraph about time setting, it was not in the original source document; and, the statement about time has not been a test, that sentence has been altered. It misrepresents Ellen White's original thought. She did not connect anything about time setting with the Daily. This is what we want to look at this morning.
Bon, voici ce que vous devez comprendre : ce paragraphe au sujet de la fixation de temps ne figurait pas dans le document source original ; et la déclaration selon laquelle la question du temps n’a pas été une épreuve, cette phrase a été modifiée. Elle dénature la pensée originale d’Ellen White. Elle n’a établi aucun lien entre la fixation de temps et le Continuel. C’est ce que nous voulons examiner ce matin.
So, as I said, we are not going to read all these pages. I am just going to make sure that you have them in your possession so you can test what I am saying; because, as a human being, there is a possibility that I am misleading you.
ดังนั้น ดังที่ข้าพเจ้าได้กล่าวแล้ว เราจะไม่อ่านหน้าทั้งหมดเหล่านี้ ข้าพเจ้าจะเพียงทำให้แน่ใจว่าท่านมีสิ่งเหล่านี้ไว้ในครอบครอง เพื่อท่านจะได้ตรวจสอบสิ่งที่ข้าพเจ้ากำลังกล่าวอยู่ เพราะว่าในฐานะมนุษย์ผู้หนึ่ง ก็มีความเป็นไปได้ว่าข้าพเจ้าอาจกำลังชักนำท่านให้หลงผิดอยู่
Arthur White—"The Context of Time Setting"
آرثر وایت—«زمینهٔ تعیینِ زمان»
"The advocates of the old view maintained that the wording of this statement [Early Writings, 74–75.] placed Heaven's endorsement on the view of the daily held by Miller and eventually repeated by Uriah Smith.
Wachitetezi wa mtazamo wa kale walishikilia kwamba maneno ya kauli hii [Early Writings, 74–75.] yaliweka idhini ya Mbingu juu ya mtazamo kuhusu “daily” ulioshikiliwa na Miller na hatimaye kurudiwa na Uriah Smith.
Arthur White, the son of Willy White, in his six-volume set about the history of Ellen White, speaking of his father's position rejecting the correct view of the Daily, he says, in EGW, volume 6, on page 252,
آرتھر وائٹ، ولی وائٹ کا بیٹا، ایلن وائٹ کی تاریخ پر مشتمل اپنی چھ جلدوں کی تصنیف میں، اپنے والد کے اُس مؤقف کا ذکر کرتے ہوئے جو «یومیہ» کے صحیح نظریے کو رد کرتا تھا، کہتا ہے کہ EGW، جلد 6، صفحہ 252 پر،
"The advocates of the old view"—that the Daily represented Paganism—"maintained that the wording of this statement [Early Writings, 74–75.] placed Heaven's endorsement on the view of the daily held by Miller and eventually repeated by Uriah Smith."—
«Les partisans de l’ancienne interprétation» — selon laquelle le Continuel représentait le paganisme — «soutenaient que la formulation de cette déclaration [Early Writings, 74–75.] plaçait l’approbation du Ciel sur l’interprétation du Continuel adoptée par Miller et reprise plus tard par Uriah Smith.»
If Arthur White was going to be a genuine, accurate historian, do you know what he would have said there? He would have just put one word in there; but, Arthur White, he missed the boat here. He would have said, "The advocates of the old view maintained [correctly] that the wording of this statement, —maintained that the wording of this statement [Early Writings, 74-75.],' placed Heaven's endorsement on the view of the daily held by Miller and eventually repeated by Uriah Smith."
Si Arthur White avait voulu être un historien authentique et exact, savez-vous ce qu’il aurait dit ici ? Il y aurait simplement inséré un seul mot ; mais, Arthur White, ici, a manqué le coche. Il aurait dit : « Les partisans de l’ancienne position soutenaient [à juste titre] que la formulation de cette déclaration — soutenaient que la formulation de cette déclaration [Early Writings, 74-75.] — conférait l’approbation du Ciel à la conception du “perpétuel” défendue par Miller et reprise par la suite par Uriah Smith. »
But he does not put correctly in there. He is just saying what they maintain, like there is the possibility that they were maintaining a wrong position. But they were not; they had the right position.
But he does not state it correctly there. He is merely reporting what they maintained, as though there were a possibility that they were maintaining an erroneous position. But they were not; they held the correct position.
—"The new-view advocates"—his father, Willy, A. G. Daniells, W. W. Prescott, and I will not go there right now—"The new-view advocates held that the statement must be taken in its context—the context of time setting."—
—« Les partisans de la nouvelle conception » — son père, Willy, A. G. Daniells, W. W. Prescott, et je n’entrerai pas là-dedans pour le moment — « soutenaient que la déclaration devait être comprise dans son contexte — le contexte de la fixation de dates. »
We just told you their argument in Early Writings, page 74.
Nous venons de vous exposer leur argumentation dans *Early Writings*, page 74.
—"The new-view advocates held that the statement must be taken in its context—the context of time setting. Ellen White's repeated statements that I have no light on the point' (Letter 226, 1908) and I am unable to define clearly the points that are questioned' (Letter 250, 1908), and her inability to make a definite statement when the question was urged upon her, seemed to give support to their conclusion. They were confident also that the messages given through Ellen White would not conflict with the clearly established events of history." Arthur White, EGW, volume 6, 252.
—« Les défenseurs de la nouvelle interprétation soutenaient que cette déclaration devait être comprise dans son contexte — le contexte de la fixation du temps. Les déclarations répétées d’Ellen White, selon lesquelles “I have no light on the point” (Letter 226, 1908) et “I am unable to define clearly the points that are questioned” (Letter 250, 1908), ainsi que son incapacité à faire une déclaration précise lorsque la question lui était instamment soumise, semblaient appuyer leur conclusion. Ils étaient également convaincus que les messages donnés par l’intermédiaire d’Ellen White n’entreraient pas en conflit avec les événements de l’histoire clairement établis. » Arthur White, EGW, volume 6, 252.
The Original Version—Review and Herald, November 1, 1850
La Version originale — Review and Herald, 1er novembre 1850
And Early Writings, page 74, when was it printed? 1882; the book Early Writings was printed in 1882.
និងសៀវភៅ Early Writings ទំព័រ 74 ត្រូវបានបោះពុម្ពនៅពេលណា? ឆ្នាំ 1882; សៀវភៅ Early Writings ត្រូវបានបោះពុម្ពនៅឆ្នាំ 1882។
But where in the passage of Early Writings that we are considering is originally found is in the Review and Herald, November 1, 1850, and you have that in your notes. And it is several paragraphs, and as I have said, we are not going to read them all.
Por o trecho de *Primeiros Escritos* que estamos considerando se encontra originalmente na *Review and Herald*, de 1º de novembro de 1850, e vocês o têm em suas anotações. E são vários parágrafos e, como eu disse, não vamos lê-los todos.
We see four paragraphs on page 2, then four paragraphs on page 3:
Mi yi paragiraf ananmu wɔ kratafa 2 so, na afei paragiraf ananmu wɔ kratafa 3 so:
"Dear Brethren and Sisters I wish to give you a short sketch of what the Lord has recently shown to me in vision. I was shown the loveliness of Jesus, and the love that the angels have for one another. Said the angel—Can ye not behold their love?—follow it. Just so God's people must love one another. Rather let blame fall on thyself than on a brother. I saw that the message —sell that ye have and give alms' had not been given, by some, in its clear light; that the true object of the words of our Saviour had not been clearly presented. I saw that the object of selling was not to give to those who are able to labor and support themselves; but to spread the truth. It is a sin to support and indulge those who are able to labor, in idleness. Some have been zealous to attend all the meetings; not to glorify God, but for the —loaves and fishes.' Such had much better been at home laboring with their hands, —the thing that is good,' to supply the wants of their families, and to have something to give to sustain the precious cause of present truth.
« Chers frères et sœurs, je désire vous donner un bref aperçu de ce que le Seigneur m’a récemment montré en vision. Il m’a été montré la beauté de Jésus, et l’amour que les anges ont les uns pour les autres. L’ange dit : — Ne pouvez-vous pas contempler leur amour ? — Suivez-le. Ainsi le peuple de Dieu doit-il s’aimer l’un l’autre. Qu’il vaille mieux faire retomber le blâme sur toi-même que sur un frère. J’ai vu que le message — Vendez ce que vous avez, et donnez-le en aumônes — n’avait pas été donné, par certains, dans sa claire lumière ; que le véritable objet des paroles de notre Sauveur n’avait pas été présenté clairement. J’ai vu que le but de vendre n’était pas de donner à ceux qui sont capables de travailler et de subvenir à leurs propres besoins ; mais de répandre la vérité. C’est un péché de soutenir et d’encourager dans l’oisiveté ceux qui sont capables de travailler. Quelques-uns ont montré du zèle à assister à toutes les réunions, non pour glorifier Dieu, mais pour les — pains et les poissons. Ceux-là feraient bien mieux de rester chez eux, travaillant de leurs mains à — ce qui est bien —, afin de pourvoir aux besoins de leurs familles, et d’avoir quelque chose à donner pour soutenir la précieuse cause de la vérité présente. »
"Some, I saw, had erred in praying for the sick to be healed before unbelievers. If any among us are sick, and call for the elders of the church to pray over them, according to James 5:14, 15, we should follow the example of Jesus. He put unbelievers out of the room, then healed the sick; so we should seek to be separated from the unbelief of those who have not faith, when we pray for the sick among us.
Ich sah, dass einige darin geirrt hatten, um die Heilung der Kranken in Gegenwart von Ungläubigen zu beten. Wenn jemand unter uns krank ist und die Ältesten der Gemeinde rufen lässt, damit sie über ihm beten, nach Jakobus 5,14.15, so sollten wir dem Beispiel Jesu folgen. Er wies die Ungläubigen aus dem Raum hinaus und heilte dann den Kranken; ebenso sollten wir danach trachten, von dem Unglauben derer getrennt zu sein, die keinen Glauben haben, wenn wir für die Kranken in unserer Mitte beten.
"Then I was pointed back to the time that Jesus took his disciples away alone, into an upper room, and first washed their feet, and then gave them to eat of the broken bread, to represent his broken body, and juice of the vine to represent his spilled blood. I saw that all should move understandingly, and follow the example of Jesus in these things, and when attending to these ordinances, should be as separate from unbelievers as possible.
“ጌታ ኢየሱስ ደቀ መዛሙርቱን ብቻቸውን ወደ ላይኛው ክፍል ወስዶ በመጀመሪያ እግራቸውን ታጠበላቸው፥ ከዚያም የተሰበረውን እንጀራ እንዲበሉ ሰጣቸው፤ ይህም የተሰበረ ሥጋውን ይወክል ዘንድ ነበር፤ የወይኑንም ጠጅ የፈሰሰውን ደሙን ይወክል ዘንድ ሰጣቸው። እነዚህን ነገሮች ሁሉ በማስተዋል ሊፈጽሙ፥ የኢየሱስንም ምሳሌ ሊከተሉ እንደሚገባ አየሁ፤ እነዚህንም ሥርዓቶች ሲፈጽሙ ከማያምኑ ሰዎች እስከሚቻል ድረስ የተለዩ ሊሆኑ ይገባል።”
"Then I was shown that the seven last plagues will be poured out, after Jesus leaves the Sanctuary. Said the angel—It is the wrath of God and the Lamb that causes the destruction or death of the wicked. At the voice of God the saints will be mighty and terrible as an army with banners; but they will not then execute the judgment written. The execution of the judgment will be at the close of the 1000 years.
Ensuite, il me fut montré que les sept dernières plaies seront déversées, après que Jésus aura quitté le Sanctuaire. L’ange dit : C’est la colère de Dieu et de l’Agneau qui cause la destruction ou la mort des méchants. À la voix de Dieu, les saints seront puissants et redoutables comme une armée déployant ses bannières ; mais ils n’exécuteront pas alors le jugement écrit. L’exécution du jugement aura lieu à la fin des 1000 ans.
"After the saints are changed to immortality, and are caught up together, and receive their harps, crowns, &c., and enter the Holy City, Jesus and the saints set in judgment. The books are opened, the book of life and the book of death; the book of life contains the good deeds of the saints, and the book of death contains the evil deeds of the wicked. These books were compared with the Statute book, the Bible, and according to that they were judged. The saints in unison with Jesus pass their judgment upon the wicked dead. Behold ye! said the angel, the saints sit in judgment, in unison with Jesus, and mete out to each of the wicked, according to the deeds done in the body, and it is set off against their names what they must receive, at the execution of the judgment. This, I saw, was the work of the saints with Jesus, in the Holy City before it descends to the earth, through the 1000 years. Then at the close of the 1000 years, Jesus, and the angels, and all the saints with him, leaves the Holy City, and while he is descending to the earth with them, the wicked dead are raised, and then the very men that —pierced him,' being raised, will see him afar off in all his glory, the angels and saints with him, and will wail because of him. They will see the prints of the nails in his hands, and in his feet, and where they thrust the spear into his side. The prints of the nails and the spear will then be his glory. It is at the close of the 1000 years that Jesus stands upon the Mount of Olives, and the Mount parts asunder, and it becomes a mighty plain, and those who flee at that time are the wicked, that have just been raised. Then the Holy City comes down and settles on the plain.
“Qaddisin abadiyata çevrildikten, birlikte yukarı alındıktan, ve çenglerini, taçlarını vb. aldıktan ve Mukaddes Şehre girdikten sonra, İsa ile qaddisin hüküm kürsüsüne otururlar. Kitaplar açılır: hayat kitabı ve ölüm kitabı; hayat kitabı qaddislerin iyi işlerini, ölüm kitabı ise kötülerin kötü işlerini ihtiva eder. Bu kitaplar Kanun kitabıyla, yani Kutsal Kitap’la karşılaştırıldı ve buna göre yargılandılar. Qaddisler, İsa ile tam bir uyum içinde, kötü ölüler üzerine hükümlerini verirler. İşte, dedi melek, qaddisler İsa ile birlik içinde hüküm kürsüsüne oturur ve bedende işlenmiş amellere göre kötülerin her birine karşılıklarını takdir ederler; hükmün infazı sırasında ne almaları gerekiyorsa, bu onların adlarının karşısına yazılır. Gördüm ki bu, Mukaddes Şehrin yeryüzüne inişinden önce, 1000 yıl boyunca, Mukaddes Şehirde qaddislerin İsa ile birlikte yürüttüğü işti. Sonra 1000 yılın sonunda, İsa, melekler ve onunla birlikte bütün qaddisler Mukaddes Şehri terk ederler; ve o, onlarla birlikte yeryüzüne inerken, kötü ölüler diriltilir; ve o zaman, —onu deşen— adamların bizzat kendileri diriltilmiş olarak, onu bütün görkemi içinde, melekler ve qaddislerle birlikte uzaktan görecek ve onun yüzünden feryat edeceklerdir. Ellerindeki ve ayaklarındaki çivi izlerini ve böğrüne sapladıkları mızrağın yerini göreceklerdir. O zaman çivilerin ve mızrağın izleri onun görkemi olacaktır. 1000 yılın sonunda İsa’nın Zeytin Dağı üzerinde durduğu zaman, Dağ ikiye ayrılır ve büyük bir ova hâline gelir; ve o sırada kaçanlar, daha yeni diriltilmiş olan kötülerdir. Sonra Mukaddes Şehir iner ve ovanın üzerine yerleşir.”
"Then Satan imbues the wicked, that have been raised, with his spirit. He flatters them that the army in the City is small, and that his army is large, and that they can overcome the saints and take the City. While Satan was rallying his army, the saints were in the City, beholding the beauty and glory of the Paradise of God. Jesus was at their head, leading them. All at once the lovely Saviour was gone from our company; but soon we heard his lovely voice, saying, —Come ye blessed of my Father inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.' We gathered about Jesus, and just as he closed the gates of the City, the curse was pronounced upon the wicked. The gates were shut. Then the saints used their wings and mounted to the top of the wall of the City. Jesus was also with them; his crown looked brilliant and glorious. It was a crown within a crown, seven in number. The crowns of the saints were of the most pure gold, decked with stars. Their faces shone with glory, for they were in the express image of Jesus; and as they arose, and moved all together to the top of the City, I was enraptured with the sight.
“Kisha Shetani huwajaza waovu, waliofufuliwa, roho yake. Huwapendezesha kwa maneno kwamba jeshi lililomo Mjini ni dogo, na kwamba jeshi lake ni kubwa, na kwamba wanaweza kuwashinda watakatifu na kuuteka Mji. Wakati Shetani alipokuwa akikusanya jeshi lake, watakatifu walikuwa Mjini, wakitazama uzuri na utukufu wa Paradiso ya Mungu. Yesu alikuwa mbele yao, akiwaongoza. Mara moja Mwokozi huyo mzuri aliondoka katikati ya kundi letu; lakini upesi tukaisikia sauti yake nzuri, ikisema, —Njoni, ninyi mliobarikiwa na Baba yangu, urithini ufalme mliowekewa tayari tangu kuwekwa msingi wa ulimwengu.’ Tukakusanyika kumzunguka Yesu, na mara tu alipofunga malango ya Mji, laana ikatangazwa juu ya waovu. Malango yakafungwa. Kisha watakatifu wakazitumia mbawa zao na kupaa mpaka juu ya ukuta wa Mji. Yesu naye alikuwa pamoja nao; taji yake ilionekana yenye kung’aa na yenye utukufu. Ilikuwa taji ndani ya taji, saba kwa hesabu. Taji za watakatifu zilikuwa za dhahabu iliyo safi kabisa, zimepambwa kwa nyota. Nyuso zao ziling’aa kwa utukufu, kwa maana walikuwa katika mfano halisi wa Yesu; na walipoinuka, na kusogea wote pamoja mpaka juu ya Mji, nilinyakuliwa na mandhari hiyo.”
"Then the wicked saw what they had lost; and fire was breathed from God upon them, and consumed them. This was the Execution of the Judgment. The wicked then received according as the saints in unison with Jesus had meted out to them during the 1000 years. The same fire from God that consumed the wicked, purified the whole earth. The broken ragged mountains melted with fervent heat, the atmosphere, also, and all the stubble was consumed. Then our inheritance opened before us, glorious and beautiful, and we inherited the whole earth made new. We all shouted with a loud voice, Glory, Alleluia.
“Na ndipo waovu wakaona kile walichokuwa wamepoteza; nayo moto ulipuliziwa juu yao kutoka kwa Mungu, ukawala. Huu ulikuwa Utekelezaji wa Hukumu. Ndipo waovu wakapokea sawasawa na jinsi watakatifu kwa umoja pamoja na Yesu walivyowapimia katika muda wa miaka 1000. Moto huohuo kutoka kwa Mungu uliowateketeza waovu, uliitakasa dunia yote. Milima iliyovunjika-vunjika na yenye miinuko chakavu ikayeyuka kwa hari kali mno, na anga pia, na makapi yote yakateketezwa. Kisha urithi wetu ukafunguka mbele yetu, wenye utukufu na uzuri, nasi tukairithi dunia yote ikiwa imefanywa upya. Sote tukapaza sauti kuu, Utukufu, Haleluya.”
"I also saw that the shepherds should consult those in whom they have reason to have confidence, those who have been in all the messages, and are firm in all the present truth, before they advocate any new point of importance, which they may think the Bible sustains. Then the shepherds will be perfectly united, and the union of the shepherds will be felt by the church. Such a course I saw would prevent unhappy divisions, and then there would be no danger of the precious flock being divided, and the sheep scattered, without a shepherd."—
Tôi cũng thấy rằng các mục tử nên tham khảo ý kiến của những người mà họ có lý do để tin cậy, những người đã dự phần trong mọi sứ điệp, và vững vàng trong mọi lẽ thật hiện tại, trước khi họ cổ xúy bất cứ điểm mới quan trọng nào mà họ có thể nghĩ rằng Kinh Thánh nâng đỡ. Khi ấy các mục tử sẽ hoàn toàn hiệp một, và sự hiệp một của các mục tử sẽ được hội thánh cảm nhận. Tôi thấy rằng một đường lối như vậy sẽ ngăn ngừa những sự chia rẽ đau buồn; và khi ấy sẽ không còn nguy cơ bầy chiên quý báu bị phân rẽ, và chiên bị tan lạc, không có người chăn.
And then it concludes with five more paragraphs which I have in a box for you, because these five paragraphs out of the article are the ones that are going to end up in Early Writings. That is why these final five paragraphs have the box around them.
Na kisha inahitimishwa kwa aya tano zaidi ambazo nimekuwekea ndani ya kisanduku, kwa sababu aya hizi tano kutoka katika makala ndizo zitakazokuja kuingizwa katika Early Writings. Ndiyo maana aya hizi tano za mwisho zimezungukwa na kisanduku.
"September 23d, the Lord showed me that he had stretched out his hand the second time to recover the remnant of his people, and that efforts must be redoubled in this gathering time. In the scattering time Israel was smitten and torn; but now in the gathering time God will heal and bind up his people. In the scattering, efforts made to spread the truth had but little effect, accomplished but little or nothing; but in the gathering when God has set his hand to gather his people, efforts to spread the truth will have their designed effect. All should be united and zealous in the work. I saw that it was a shame for any to refer to the scattering for examples to govern us now in the gathering; for if God does no more for us now than he did then, Israel would never be gathered. It is as necessary that the truth should be published in a paper, as preached.
"La 23-an de septembro, la Eternulo montris al mi, ke Li etendis sian manon la duan fojon, por rehavigi la restaĵon de Sia popolo, kaj ke penadoj devas esti duobligitaj en ĉi tiu tempo de kolektado. En la tempo de disĵetado Izrael estis frapita kaj disŝirita; sed nun en la tempo de kolektado Dio resanigos kaj bandaĝos Sian popolon. En la disĵetado, penadoj faritaj por disvastigi la veron havis nur malmulte da efiko, atingis nur malmulte aŭ nenion; sed en la kolektado, kiam Dio metis Sian manon por kolekti Sian popolon, penadoj por disvastigi la veron havos sian celitan efikon. Ĉiuj devas esti unuiĝintaj kaj fervoraj en la laboro. Mi vidis, ke estas hontinde por iu ajn referenci al la disĵetado por ekzemploj, kiuj nun regu nin en la kolektado; ĉar se Dio farus por ni nun ne pli ol Li faris tiam, Izrael neniam estus kolektita. Estas tiel same necese, ke la vero estu publikigita en gazeto, kiel predikita."
"The Lord showed me that the 1843 chart was directed by his hand, and that no part of it should be altered; that the figures were as he wanted them. That his hand was over and hid a mistake in some of the figures, so that none could see it, until his hand was removed.
Le Seigneur m’a montré que la carte de 1843 avait été dirigée par sa main, et qu’aucune partie n’en devait être modifiée; que les chiffres étaient tels qu’il les voulait. Que sa main couvrait et cachait une erreur dans certains des chiffres, de sorte que nul ne pouvait la voir, jusqu’à ce que sa main fût retirée.
"Then I saw in relation to the —Daily,' that the word —sacrifice' was supplied by man's wisdom, and does not belong to the text; and that the Lord gave the correct view of it to those who gave the judgment hour cry. When union existed, before 1844, nearly all were united on the correct view of the —Daily;' but since 1844, in the confusion, other views have been embraced, and darkness and confusion has followed.
“Затим сам у вези са „Свагдашњом“ видела да је реч „жртва“ додата људском мудрошћу и да не припада тексту; и да је Господ дао исправно разумевање о томе онима који су објављивали вапај о часу суда. Када је постојало јединство, пре 1844. године, готово сви су били сједињени у исправном разумевању „Свагдашње“; али од 1844. године, у пометњи, прихваћена су друга гледишта, а за њима су дошли тама и збрка.”
"The Lord showed me that Time had not been a test since 1844, and that time will never again be a test.
Le Seigneur m’a montré que le temps n’avait pas été une épreuve depuis 1844, et que le temps ne sera plus jamais une épreuve.
"Then I was pointed to some who are in the great error, that the saints are yet to go to Old Jerusalem, &c., before the Lord comes. Such a view is calculated to take the mind and interest from the present work of God, under the message of the third angel; for if we are to go to Jerusalem, then our minds will naturally be there, and our means will be withheld from other uses, to get the saints to Jerusalem. I saw that the reason why they were left to go into this great error, is because they have not confessed and forsaken their errors, that they have been in for a number of years past." Review and Herald, November 1, 1850."
“Luego se me señaló a algunos que están en el gran error de que los santos todavía han de ir a la antigua Jerusalén, etc., antes que venga el Señor. Una opinión semejante tiende a desviar la mente y el interés de la obra presente de Dios, bajo el mensaje del tercer ángel; porque si hemos de ir a Jerusalén, entonces nuestra mente estará allí de manera natural, y nuestros recursos serán retenidos de otros usos, para llevar a los santos a Jerusalén. Vi que la razón por la cual se les dejó caer en este gran error es que no han confesado ni abandonado sus errores, en los cuales han estado por varios años ya.” Review and Herald, 1 de noviembre de 1850.
Do you see them? Do you know what I am talking about?
Les voyez-vous ? Savez-vous de quoi je parle ?
Okay. If we go into these five final paragraphs, you will see some things that are different in the original than you will find in Early Writings, page 74.
D’accord. Si nous entrons dans ces cinq derniers paragraphes, vous verrez certaines choses qui sont différentes dans l’original de ce que vous trouverez dans Early Writings, page 74.
FROM THE AUDIENCE: So, you are saying these in the box are the originals?
DARI HADIRIN: Jadi, Anda mengatakan bahwa yang di dalam kotak ini adalah yang asli?
These in the box, these are the last five paragraphs in this original article, and this box is around them. These five paragraphs are what ultimately end up in Early Writings, page 74.
Eyi a wɔde ahyɛ adaka yi mu no, eyinom ne nkyekyɛm anum a etwa to wɔ saa asɛm a edi kan yi mu, na adaka yi atwa ho ahyia. Saa nkyekyɛm anum yi na awiei koraa no ɛkɔba Early Writings, kratafa 74 mu.
But, when was this printed, when was this written? November 1850.
Mais quand cela a-t-il été imprimé, quand cela a-t-il été écrit ? Novembre 1850.
So, I have in bold-faced the things that are going to be changed from these five paragraphs. There is going to be a metamorphosis with this; because, in the very near future in 1851 the book A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White is going to be printed and they are going to take these paragraphs and put them in A Sketch of the Christian Experience and View of Ellen G. White. And from here [article in Review and Herald, November 1850] to A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White there are some minor editorial changes that happened to these five paragraphs. And then from A Sketch of the Christian Experience and View of Ellen G. White in 1851 to Early Writings in 1882, there are some more editorial changes, and those editorial changes are what make Early Writings, page 74, convoluted.
Ainsi, j’ai mis en caractères gras les éléments qui vont être modifiés dans ces cinq paragraphes. Il va se produire ici une métamorphose ; car, dans un très proche avenir, en 1851, le livre A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White va être imprimé, et l’on va prendre ces paragraphes pour les insérer dans A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White. Et entre ici [article dans Review and Herald, novembre 1850] et A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White, il y a quelques modifications éditoriales mineures qui ont affecté ces cinq paragraphes. Puis, de A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White en 1851 à Early Writings en 1882, il y a encore d’autres modifications éditoriales, et ce sont ces modifications éditoriales qui rendent Early Writings, page 74, embrouillé.
So, in these five paragraphs that conclude in the original manuscript, in the first paragraph, "September 23d, the Lord showed me . . . ," that is going to be changed.
अतएव, मूल पांडुलिपि में समापन करने वाले इन पाँच अनुच्छेदों में, प्रथम अनुच्छेद में, “September 23d, the Lord showed me . . . ,” इसे परिवर्तित किया जाएगा।
In the next paragraphs: "Then I saw . . ."; "Then I saw . . ."; The Lord showed me . . . "; and, "Then I was pointed to . . ."; these things get some minor adjustments.
Dalam paragraf-paragraf berikut: “Kemudian aku melihat . . .”; “Kemudian aku melihat . . .”; “Tuhan menunjukkan kepadaku . . .”; dan, “Kemudian perhatianku diarahkan kepada . . .”; hal-hal ini mengalami beberapa penyesuaian kecil.
Shown Ten Primary Truths in Thirteen Paragraphs
Treize paragraphes exposant dix vérités principales
But, what I want you to see in these thirteen paragraphs from the original article, she has shown ten primary things.
Mais, ce que je veux que vous voyiez dans ces treize paragraphes de l’article original, c’est qu’elle y a montré dix choses principales.
And now I remember why I have these things bold-faced. It is not because those are going to get changed. I am emphasizing something for you, if you will see, that in these thirteen paragraphs she was shown this . . . , she was shown this . . . , she was shown this . . . , she was shown this. And when she was shown one thing, after she tells us about it, then she is shown something that is not necessarily connected to what she was just shown: "I was shown this . . . ; I was shown this . . . ; I was shown this . . . .
Na sasa ninakumbuka kwa nini nimeweka mambo haya kwa herufi nzito. Si kwa sababu mambo hayo yatabadilishwa. Ninakazia jambo fulani kwa ajili yenu, ikiwa mtaona, kwamba katika aya hizi kumi na tatu alionyeshwa hili . . . , alionyeshwa hili . . . , alionyeshwa hili . . . , alionyeshwa hili. Na alipoonyeshwa jambo moja, baada ya kutuambia kulihusu, kisha anaonyeshwa jambo ambalo si lazima lihusiane na kile alichoonyeshwa punde tu kabla yake: “Nilionyeshwa hili . . . ; nilionyeshwa hili . . . ; nilionyeshwa hili . . . .”
You can check me out and read it for yourself, but she was shown ten primary truths in these thirteen paragraphs.
Ngi nga sedze mina uze ukufundze wena ngekwakho, kodvwa waboniswa emaciniso lalishumi laphambili kulama sigaba lalishumi nakutsatfu.
Here is what she was shown. She was shown about God's love, about offerings, about prayer for the sick, about the communion service, about the Seven Last Plagues connected with the Millennium, about new light, about the gathering after 1844, about the publishing work, about the 1843 Chart, about the "Daily," about "time" as a test, and about pilgrimages to Jerusalem. And if you read it carefully, this is not a flow of thought. This is a very, "I was shown this," and she records what she was shown; and, she was shown something that is not necessarily connected. You have to see that; because, as they begin to pull these paragraphs together, they begin to create the thought that she saying something that she really did not say.
Voici ce qui lui fut montré. Il lui fut montré l’amour de Dieu, les offrandes, la prière pour les malades, le service de la sainte cène, les Sept Dernières Plaies en rapport avec le Millénium, la lumière nouvelle, le rassemblement après 1844, l’œuvre de publication, la Charte de 1843, le « Daily », le « temps » comme épreuve, et les pèlerinages à Jérusalem. Et si vous le lisez attentivement, il ne s’agit pas d’un enchaînement de pensée. C’est très nettement un : « Il m’a été montré ceci », et elle consigne ce qui lui a été montré ; et il lui a été montré quelque chose qui n’est pas nécessairement lié. Il faut le voir ; car, lorsqu’ils commencent à rassembler ces paragraphes, ils commencent à donner l’impression qu’elle dit quelque chose qu’en réalité elle n’a pas dite.
Review and Herald, November 1, 1850
Revue and Herald, le 1er novembre 1850
Okay. Notice the first paragraph of the five paragraphs that we are dealing with from November 1850.
ঠিক আছে। লক্ষ্য করুন, 1850 সালের নভেম্বর মাস থেকে আমরা যে পাঁচটি অনুচ্ছেদ নিয়ে আলোচনা করছি, তার প্রথম অনুচ্ছেদটি।
"September 23d, the Lord showed me that he had stretched out his hand the second time to recover the remnant of his people, and that efforts must be redoubled in this gathering time. In the scattering time Israel was smitten and torn; but now in the gathering time God will heal and bind up his people. In the scattering, efforts made to spread the truth had but little effect, accomplished but little or nothing; but in the gathering when God has set his hand to gather his people, efforts to spread the truth will have their designed effect. All should be united and zealous in the work. I saw that it was a shame for any to refer to the scattering for examples to govern us now in the gathering; for if God does no more for us now than he did then, Israel would never be gathered. It is as necessary that the truth should be published in a paper, as preached."—
«Шумуа 23-тәи, Иаҳәап исыдирҵеит, иԥсҭазаара идырхааит иџьытатәи аанкыларазы ижәлар ршьапылаз аиааиҳәшьа, насгьы иаҭахын ари аизгаратә аамҭақәа рҿы аҭыжьра двойно иазырҳатәызшәа. Аиҩшара аамҭақәа рҿы Израиль дрыԥхашьан, ддырҵәышәон; аха иахьа, аизгара аамҭақәа рҿы, Анцәа ижәлар идыргәаԥхоит, ихәышәтәуеит, ибиндазҵоит. Аиҩшараҿы, аҵабырг аԥҵәаразы иҟаҵаз аҽазышәарақәа хәыҷны мацара ирылҵуан, рацәак ма акгьы рлымҵӡамызт; аха аизгараҿы, Анцәа ишьақәирӷәӷәаз иҳәа инапала ижәлар еизгара, аҵабырг аԥҵәаразы иҟаҵахо аҽазышәарақәа дара рзыԥшыз алҵшәа роуеит. Ҳ зегьы еидгылазароуп, аусураҿгьы ҳҽазышәара дуӡӡа аҭаны. Исгәарҭеит, уажәы аизгараҿы ҳгәы иақәшәарц азы аилыҵра иазкны аҿырԥштәқәа ареферентра ишьҭырхуа аӡәгьы иҟазар, уи ԥхашьароуп; избанзар, Анцәа уаанӡа иҟаиҵоз аҩыза мацара иахьа ҳзыҟаиҵар, Израиль ахаангьы еизгазомызт. Аҵабырг аԥсышәала ақьаҿы аҭыжьрагьы, аиҳәаара еиԥшҵәҟьа, ихымԥадатәиуп».
The last sentence from that paragraph, it says, "It is as necessary that the truth should be published in a paper, as preached." Okay. This thought is going to be dropped.
Die letzte Aussage jenes Absatzes lautet: „Es ist ebenso notwendig, dass die Wahrheit in einer Zeitschrift veröffentlicht wird, wie sie gepredigt wird.“ Gut. Dieser Gedanke wird fallengelassen.
The second paragraph of the five that we are considering, where it says, "The Lord showed me," you see I have it underlined.
우리가 살펴보고 있는 다섯 문단 가운데 둘째 문단, 곧 “주께서 내게 보이셨다”라고 되어 있는 부분을 보십시오. 보시다시피 내가 그 부분에 밑줄을 그어 두었습니다.
—"The Lord showed me that the 1843 chart was directed by his hand, and that no part of it should be altered; that the figures were as he wanted them. That his hand was over and hid a mistake in some of the figures, so that none could see it, until his hand was removed."—
—« Le Seigneur m’a montré que le tableau de 1843 avait été dirigé par sa main, et qu’aucune partie n’en devait être changée ; que les chiffres étaient tels qu’il les voulait. Que sa main couvrait et cachait une erreur dans certains des chiffres, de sorte que nul ne pouvait la voir, jusqu’à ce que sa main fût retirée. »—
The reason I have anything underlined in these four paragraphs at the top of the page is that those are going to have editorial changes when it gets reprinted in A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White in 1851.
Sababu ya mimi kuwa na chochote kilichopigiwa mstari katika aya hizi nne zilizo juu ya ukurasa ni kwamba sehemu hizo zitafanyiwa mabadiliko ya kiuhariri itakapochapishwa tena katika A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White mwaka wa 1851.
Okay. "The Lord showed me," is going to be changed; "by his hand" is going to be changed, "that no part of it should be altered" is going to be changed.
D’accord. « Le Seigneur m’a montré » va être changé ; « par sa main » va être changé ; « qu’aucune partie n’en soit altérée » va être changé.
Then in the next bold-faced paragraph [fourth paragraph] on the page says,
Ensuite, dans le paragraphe suivant en caractères gras [quatrième paragraphe] de la page, il est dit,
—"The Lord showed me that Time had not been a test since 1844, and that time will never again be a test."—
—«Seigneur m’a montré que le Temps n’avait pas été une épreuve depuis 1844, et que le temps ne sera plus jamais une épreuve.»—
"The Lord showed me," that is going to be changed. What they are going to do the next year in A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White, they are going to take that one-sentence paragraph and they are going to combine it with the previous paragraph. They are going to turn it into one paragraph.
« Le Seigneur m’a montré » : cela va être modifié. L’année suivante, dans A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White, ils vont prendre ce paragraphe d’une seule phrase et le réunir au paragraphe précédent. Ils vont en faire un seul paragraphe.
But, also, if a word or words are bold-faced, there is going to be some other types of changes; and, I will give you an example of what I mean.
Lakini pia, ikiwa neno au maneno yameandikwa kwa herufi nzito, kutakuwa na mabadiliko mengine ya uchapaji; nami nitawapa mfano wa kile ninachomaanisha.
And in the third paragraph it says,
Ve üçüncü paragrafta şöyle deniyor,
—"Then I saw in relation to the —Daily,' that the word —sacrifice' was supplied by man's wisdom, and does not belong to the text; and that the Lord gave the correct view of it to those who gave the judgment hour cry. When union existed, before 1844, nearly all were united on the correct view of the —Daily;' but since 1844, in the confusion, other views have been embraced, and darkness and confusion has followed."—
« Alors je vis, au sujet du —Perpétuel, que le mot —sacrifice a été ajouté par la sagesse humaine, et qu’il n’appartient pas au texte ; et que le Seigneur en donna la juste compréhension à ceux qui proclamèrent le cri de l’heure du jugement. Lorsque l’union existait, avant 1844, presque tous étaient unis dans la juste compréhension du —Perpétuel ; mais depuis 1844, dans la confusion, d’autres vues ont été adoptées, et les ténèbres et la confusion ont suivi. »
Then in the next bold-faced paragraph [fourth paragraph] on the page says,
Sa gayon, sa kasunod na talatang naka-bold [ikaapat na talata] sa pahina ay sinasabi,
"The Lord showed me that Time had not been a test since 1844, and that time will never again be a test."—
“Seigneur m’a montré que le temps n’a pas été une épreuve depuis 1844, et que le temps ne sera plus jamais une épreuve.”—
"The Lord showed me," that is going to be changed.
«Касоде ми Адоној показа», то ће бити промењено.
What they are going to do the next year in A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White, they are going to take that one-sentence paragraph and they are going to combine it with the previous paragraph. They are going to turn it into one paragraph.
Le ño que segue, en *A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White*, illes va prender ille paragrapho de un sol phrase e va combinar lo con le paragrapho precedente. Illes va transformar lo in un sol paragrapho.
And they are going to change "The Lord showed me" to "I was also shown." Okay? They are going to make those two paragraphs one paragraph, and they are going to change it to, "I was also shown," in 1851.
Et ils vont remplacer « Le Seigneur m’a montré » par « Il m’a aussi été montré ». D’accord ? Ils vont réunir ces deux paragraphes en un seul paragraphe, et ils vont le changer en : « Il m’a aussi été montré », en 1851.
—"Then I was pointed to some who are in the great error, that the saints are yet to go to Old Jerusalem, &c., before the Lord comes. Such a view is calculated to take the mind and interest from the present work of God, under the message of the third angel; for if we are to go to Jerusalem, then our minds will naturally be there, and our means will be withheld from other uses, to get the saints to Jerusalem. I saw that the reason why they were left to go into this great error, is because they have not confessed and forsaken their errors, that they have been in for a number of years past." Review and Herald, November 1, 1850.
—«Puis mon attention fut attirée sur quelques-uns qui sont dans cette grande erreur, à savoir que les saints doivent encore se rendre à l’ancienne Jérusalem, etc., avant que le Seigneur ne vienne. Une telle opinion est de nature à détourner l’esprit et l’intérêt de l’œuvre présente de Dieu, sous le message du troisième ange; car, si nous devons aller à Jérusalem, alors nos pensées s’y porteront naturellement, et nos moyens seront retenus d’autres usages, afin de conduire les saints à Jérusalem. Je vis que la raison pour laquelle ils furent abandonnés à tomber dans cette grande erreur, c’est qu’ils n’ont ni confessé ni abandonné les erreurs dans lesquelles ils ont été engagés pendant un certain nombre d’années passées.» Review and Herald, 1er novembre 1850.
But, when you get to Early Writings, do you know what they do? They drop the "I was also shown," where in Early Writings this one paragraph, it is going to say, "When union existed before 1844, nearly all were united on the correct view of the —Daily,' but since 1844, in the confusion, other views have been embraced, and darkness and confusion has followed." They dropped the "I was also shown," and the next sentence is, "time had not been a test since 1844." Suddenly you do not know that this thought about time not being a test is one of things that she was specifically shown. You believe that this was part of her light on the Daily in the false view producing confusion.
Laakiin, markaad timaaddaan Early Writings, ma ogtihiin waxa ay sameeyaan? Waxay ka saaraan weedha “I was also shown,” halkaas oo, gudaha Early Writings, faqraddan keliya ay leedahay, “Markii midnimo jirtay ka hor 1844, ku dhowaad dhammaantood waxay ku midoobeen aragtida saxda ah ee —Daily,’ laakiin tan iyo 1844, jahawareerka dhexdiisa, aragtiyo kale ayaa la qaatay, waxaana raacay gudcur iyo jahawareer.” Waxay ka saareen “I was also shown,” jumladda xigtana waa, “time had not been a test since 1844.” Si kedis ah ma garanaysid in fikraddan ku saabsan in waqtigu aanu imtixaan ahayn tan iyo 1844 ay ka mid ahayd waxyaalihii si gaar ah iyada loo tusay. Waxaad rumaysanaysaa in tani ay qayb ka ahayd iftiinkeedii ku saabsanaa Daily-ga, taas oo ah aragtida beenta ah ee dhalinaysa jahawareer.
That is not the original. You have the original. Check it out.
Lo ntawd tsis yog daim thawj. Koj twb muaj daim thawj lawm. Mus xyuas saib.
The Next Step (Step Two)—1851 A Sketch of the Christian Experience and View of Ellen G. White
Ity Dingana Manaraka (Dingana Faharoa)—1851 Sary Fohy momba ny Fiainana sy ny Fijerin’i Ellen G. White Kristiana
Then underneath this, you have, A Sketch of the Christian Experience and View of Ellen G. White, printed in 1851; and, you have the breakdowns of the changes that took place, and there is a very, very significant change.
Ensuite, en dessous de ceci, vous avez *A Sketch of the Christian Experience and View of Ellen G. White*, imprimé en 1851 ; et vous avez le détail des modifications qui ont eu lieu, et il y a un changement très, très significatif.
"September 23d, the Lord shewed [formerly—"showed"] me that he had stretched out his hand the second time to recover the remnant of his people, and that efforts must be redoubled in this gathering time. In the scattering, Israel was smitten and torn; but now in the gathering time God will heal and bind up his people. In the scattering, efforts made to spread the truth had but little effect, accomplished but little or nothing; but in the gathering, when God has set his hand to gather his people, efforts to spread the truth will have their designed effect. All should be united and zealous in the work. I saw that it was wrong for any to refer to the scattering for examples to govern us now in the gathering; for if God does no more for us now than he did then, Israel would never be gathered. [Removed: It is as necessary that the truth should be published in a paper, as preached.] [Paragraphs Combined] I have seen [formerly—"the Lord showed me] that the 1843 chart was directed by the hand of the Lord, [formerly—"by His hand"] and that it should not be altered; [formerly—"no part of it should be altered"] that the figures were as he wanted them. That his hand was over, and hid a mistake in some of the figures, so that none could see it, until his hand was removed.
«Ва 23 сентябр, Парвардигор ба ман нишон дод [қаблан—«showed»], ки Ӯ дасти Худро бори дуюм дароз кардааст, то бақияи қавми Худро бозёбад, ва дар ин замони ҷамъоварӣ саъю кӯшишҳо бояд дучанд гарданд. Дар парокандагӣ, Исроил зарб хӯрд ва дарида шуд; аммо акнун, дар замони ҷамъоварӣ, Худо қавми Худро шифо хоҳад дод ва хоҳад баст. Дар парокандагӣ, кӯшишҳое, ки барои паҳн кардани ҳақиқат анҷом меёфтанд, таъсири бисёр андаке доштанд, бисёр кам ё ҳеҷ чизеро ба анҷом намерасониданд; аммо дар ҷамъоварӣ, ҳангоме ки Худо дасти Худро барои ҷамъ овардани қавми Худ ниҳодааст, кӯшишҳо барои паҳн кардани ҳақиқат таъсири мақсуди худро хоҳанд дошт. Ҳама бояд дар ин кор муттаҳид ва пурғайрат бошанд. Ман дидам, ки барои ҳар кас нодуруст аст, ки барои мисолҳое, ки акнун моро дар ҷамъоварӣ роҳнамоӣ кунанд, ба парокандагӣ муроҷиат намояд; зеро агар Худо акнун барои мо бештар аз он чи он вақт кард, накунад, Исроил ҳаргиз ҷамъ оварда нахоҳад шуд. [Removed: It is as necessary that the truth should be published in a paper, as preached.] [Paragraphs Combined] Ман дидаам [қаблан—«the Lord showed me], ки ҷадвали 1843 бо дасти Парвардигор роҳнамоӣ шуда буд, [қаблан—«by His hand»] ва он набояд тағйир дода шавад; [қаблан—«no part of it should be altered»] ва рақамҳо ҳамон гуна буданд, ки Ӯ мехост. Дасти Ӯ бар он буд ва иштибоҳеро дар баъзе аз рақамҳо пинҳон дошт, то касе онро бубинад натавонад, то даме ки дасти Ӯ бардошта шуд.»
"Then I saw in relation to the —Daily,' that the word —sacrifice' was supplied by man's wisdom, and does not belong to the text; and that the Lord gave the correct view of it to those who gave the judgment hour cry. When union existed, before 1844, nearly all were united on the correct view of the —Daily;' but since 1844, in the confusion, other views have been embraced, and darkness and confusion have followed. [Paragraphs Combined] I have also seen [Formerly—"the Lord showed me"] that time had not been a test since 1844, and that time will never again be a test.]" A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White, ExV 61–62.
“ثم رأيتُ فيما يتعلّق بـ «المستمِرّ»، أن كلمة «الذبيحة» قد أُلحِقت بحكمة الإنسان، ولا تنتمي إلى النص؛ وأن الرب أعطى الفهم الصحيح له لأولئك الذين أطلقوا نداء ساعة الدينونة. وحين كان الاتحاد قائمًا، قبل سنة 1844، كان الجميع تقريبًا متّحدين على الفهم الصحيح لـ «المستمِرّ»؛ ولكن منذ سنة 1844، في وسط الاضطراب، اعتُنِقت آراء أخرى، فتبع ذلك ظلام وارتباك. [الفقرات مدمجة] وقد رأيتُ أيضًا [وكانت العبارة سابقًا: «أراني الرب»] أن الزمان لم يكن امتحانًا منذ سنة 1844، وأنه لن يكون امتحانًا مرة أخرى أبدًا.]” A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White, ExV 61–62.
Time not Connected with the Message of the Third Angel
Le temps n’est pas lié au message du troisième ange
Ellen White had a different vision than the vision that she had that ultimately ends up in Early Writings. She had several visions; but, she had a vision where she was told something; she was told one paragraph, and she wrote it down.
Ellen White avait une vision différente de celle qu’elle eut et qui, en définitive, se retrouve dans Premiers Écrits. Elle eut plusieurs visions; mais elle eut une vision dans laquelle il lui fut dit quelque chose; on lui dicta un paragraphe, et elle le mit par écrit.
"The Lord has shown me that the message of the third angel must go, and be proclaimed to the scattered children of the Lord, and that it should not be hung on time; for time never will be a test again. I saw that some were getting a false excitement arising from preaching time; that the third angel's message was stronger than time can be. I saw that this message can stand on its own foundation, and that it needs not time to strengthen it, and that it will go in mighty power, and do its work, and will be cut short in righteousness." A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White, ExV 48.
“Seigneur m’a montré que le message du troisième ange doit aller, et être proclamé aux enfants dispersés du Seigneur, et qu’il ne doit pas être suspendu au temps; car le temps ne sera plus jamais une épreuve. J’ai vu que quelques-uns recevaient une fausse excitation provenant de la prédication du temps; que le message du troisième ange était plus puissant que tout ce que le temps peut être. J’ai vu que ce message peut subsister sur son propre fondement, et qu’il n’a pas besoin du temps pour le fortifier, et qu’il avancera avec une grande puissance, et accomplira son œuvre, et sera abrégé dans la justice.” A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White, ExV 48.
What is she speaking about there? That we should never connect the Third Angel's Message with time again, right?
Ni iki avugira aho? Ko tutagomba kongera guhuza Ubutumwa bw’Malayika wa Gatatu n’igihe ukundi, si byo?
Amen? Are you with me?
Amên? Vocês estão comigo?
Where do you find this? Where is it located?
आप इसे कहाँ पाते हैं? यह कहाँ स्थित है?
FROM THE AUDIENCE: (No response.)
FROM THE AUDIENCE: (No response.)
FROM THE AUDIENCE: A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views.
FROM THE AUDIENCE: Croquis de l’expérience et des vues chrétiennes.
A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White, page 48, page 48.
Muhtasari wa Uzoefu wa Kikristo na Maoni ya Ellen G. White, ukurasa wa 48, ukurasa wa 48.
Okay. Where do we find the passage that we are discussing that is derived from Review and Herald, November 1850; where is that located in A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White? Well, it is located, if you back up in your notes, it is located in A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White, page 61 and page 62.
ደህና። ከReview and Herald, November 1850 የተወሰደውን እኛ እየተወያየንበት ያለውን ክፍል የምናገኘው የት ነው? በA Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White ውስጥ የት ይገኛል? መልካም፣ በማስታወሻዎቻችሁ ውስጥ ወደ ኋላ ብትመለሱ፣ በA Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White ገጽ 61 እና ገጽ 62 ላይ ይገኛል።
You have a vision in A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White that is recorded on page 48; then you have the vision that ultimately is going to end up in Early Writings, on pages 61 and 62. They are separated by 13 or 14 pages, right?
Vous avez une vision dans *A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White*, qui est consignée à la page 48; puis vous avez la vision qui, en définitive, se retrouvera dans *Early Writings*, aux pages 61 et 62. Elles sont séparées par 13 ou 14 pages, n’est-ce pas ?
And what are they going to do when it comes to Early Writings? They are going to take this paragraph from page 48 and they are going to insert it right after her statement that time is no longer a test. They are going to put two visions together.
Opo baye kosala nini soki etali *Early Writings*? Bakozwa paragrafe oyo ya lokasa 48 mpe bakokɔtisa yango mbala moko nsima ya maloba na ye ete ntango ezali lisusu komekama te. Bakosangisa bimononeli mibale esika moko.
Are you following what I mean?
Comprenez-vous ce que je veux dire ?
MAN IN THE AUDIENCE: Yes.
FF NTOFAALI: Yee.
Are you following what I mean?
Ndiyakulandela na oko ndikuthethayo?
INDIVIDUAL ADDRESSED IN THE AUDIENCE: (Affirmation.)
INDIVIDU ADRESSÉ DANS L’AUDITOIRE : (Affirmation.)
Okay, because you are the one that I am seeing less confirmation with.
Хубаво, защото именно при теб виждам по-малко потвърждение.
The Last Step (Step Three)—1882 Early Writings
Hatua ya Mwisho (Hatua ya Tatu)—Maandishi ya Awali ya 1882
Okay. Now, I am back to page 6 of your notes; and, now you have Early Writings again.
D’accord. À présent, je reviens à la page 6 de vos notes ; et maintenant, vous avez de nouveau Early Writings.
"September 23, . . . I have seen that the 1843 chart was directed by the hand of the Lord, and that it should not be altered; that the figures were as He wanted them; that His hand was over and hid a mistake in some of the figures, so that none could see it, until His hand was removed.
„23. September, . . . es wurde mir gezeigt, dass die Karte von 1843 durch die Hand des Herrn gelenkt war und dass sie nicht verändert werden sollte; dass die Zahlen so waren, wie Er sie haben wollte; dass Seine Hand darüber war und einen Irrtum in einigen der Zahlen verbarg, sodass niemand ihn sehen konnte, bis Seine Hand weggenommen wurde.‟
"Then I saw in relation to the —daily' (Daniel 8:12) that the word —sacrifice' was supplied by man's wisdom, and does not belong to the text, and that the Lord gave the correct view of it to those who gave the judgment hour cry. When union existed, before 1844, nearly all were united on the correct view of the —daily'; but in the confusion since 1844, other views have been embraced, and darkness and confusion have followed. Time has not been a test since 1844, and it will never again be a test.
ދެން އަހަރެން «ދާއިމީ» (Daniel 8:12) އާ ގުޅިގެން ފެނިއްޖެމެވެ؛ «ޤުރުބާނީ» މި ލަފުޒު އިތުރުކުރީ އިންސާނުގެ ޙިކުމަތުން ކަމަށާއި، އެއީ ނައްސުގެ ބައެއް ނޫން ކަމަށާއި، އަދި ޙުކުމުގެ ގަޑިއިރުގެ ގޮވާލުން ދިން މީހުންނަށް އޭގެ ސައްޙަ ދެކުން ރައްބު ދެއްވި ކަމަށެވެ. 1844 ގެ ކުރިން، އިއްތިޙާދު އޮތް އިރު، «ދާއިމީ» ގެ ސައްޙަ ދެކުމު މައްޗަށް ތަކުރީބަން ހުރިހާ މީހުން އެއްބަސްވެފައި ހުއްޓެވެ؛ ނަމަވެސް 1844 އަށް ފަހުގެ އޮޅުންބޮޅުމުގައި، އެހެނިހެން ދެކުންތައް ގަބޫލުކުރެވި، އަނދިރިކަމާއި އޮޅުންބޮޅުން އެއާ އެކު ތަޢާޤުބު ކުރިއެވެ. 1844 އަށް ފަހު ޒަމާން އެއްވެސް އިމްތިޙާނެއް ނުވެއެވެ، އަދި އެ ދެން އަލުން އެއްވެސް އިމްތިޙާނެއް ނުވާނެއެވެ.
"The Lord has shown me that the message of the third angel must go, and be proclaimed to the scattered children of the Lord, but it must not be hung on time. I saw that some were getting a false excitement, arising from preaching time; but the third angel's message is stronger than time can be. I saw that this message can stand on its own foundation and needs not time to strengthen it; and that it will go in mighty power, and do its work, and will be cut short in righteousness.
Le Seigneur m’a montré que le message du troisième ange doit aller de l’avant et être proclamé aux enfants dispersés du Seigneur, mais qu’il ne doit pas être suspendu au temps. J’ai vu que certains étaient saisis d’une fausse excitation, née de la prédication du temps; mais le message du troisième ange est plus fort que tout ce que le temps peut être. J’ai vu que ce message peut subsister sur son propre fondement et qu’il n’a pas besoin du temps pour le fortifier; et qu’il avancera avec une grande puissance, qu’il accomplira son œuvre, et qu’elle sera abrégée dans la justice.
"Then I was pointed to some who are in the great error of believing that it is their duty to go to Old Jerusalem . . ." Early Writings, 74-76.
« Ensuite, mon attention fut attirée sur certains qui sont dans la grande erreur de croire qu’il est de leur devoir d’aller à l’ancienne Jérusalem . . . » Early Writings, 74-76.
And the reason that this is bold-faced, this is the paragraph here where it says, ". . . When union existed, before 1844, nearly all were united on the correct view of the —daily'; but in the confusion since 1844, other views have been embraced, and darkness and confusion have followed. Time has not been a test since 1844, and it will never again be a test." you need to remember that originally in her first record of this vision, she said, "I was shown that time has not been a test since 1844," and it was a different paragraph. She had made sure that there was a distinction in what she was shown about the Daily and what was shown her about time being a test; and that the next paragraph, which is talking about no connecting time with the Third Angel's Message, it was not in the original vision. It was on page 48 of Life Sketches, not pages 61 and 62.
Et la raison pour laquelle ceci est en caractères gras, c’est que c’est le paragraphe où il est dit : « . . . Lorsque l’union existait, avant 1844, presque tous étaient unis dans la juste compréhension du “perpétuel” ; mais, dans la confusion qui a suivi depuis 1844, d’autres vues ont été adoptées, et les ténèbres et la confusion s’en sont suivies. Le temps n’a pas été une épreuve depuis 1844, et il ne le sera plus jamais. » Il faut vous souvenir qu’à l’origine, dans le premier compte rendu qu’elle a donné de cette vision, elle a dit : « Il m’a été montré que le temps n’a pas été une épreuve depuis 1844 », et cela formait un paragraphe différent. Elle avait veillé à ce qu’il y eût une distinction entre ce qui lui avait été montré au sujet du perpétuel et ce qui lui avait été montré au sujet du temps comme épreuve ; et le paragraphe suivant, qui parle de l’absence de tout temps défini en liaison avec le message du troisième ange, ne figurait pas dans la vision originelle. Cela se trouvait à la page 48 de Life Sketches, et non aux pages 61 et 62.
But, when you come to Early Writings in 1882, they put them together; and, therefore, when you get to the 1930s and you are going off into deep darkness in Adventism, and Willie White says that when you are studying the Daily you must study it in the context of time—"Sorry, Willie, your responsibility was to be the one that gave the accurate historical record of the Spirit of Prophecy. You were to be the one that defeated the Spirit of Prophecy. And in your presentation of Early Writings, page 75, you disregarded the original sources, and those original sources say that when you lifted the argument that the Daily has to be considered in the context of time in Early Writings, 74, that is absolutely untrue."—It is untrue! It cannot be sustained by the record in the Spirit of Prophecy. It cannot be sustained by the history of that time period.
Mais, lorsque vous arrivez à Early Writings en 1882, ils les ont réunis; et, par conséquent, lorsque vous parvenez aux années 1930 et que vous vous enfoncez dans de profondes ténèbres au sein de l’adventisme, et que Willie White dit que, lorsque vous étudiez le Daily, vous devez l’étudier dans le contexte du temps—« Désolé, Willie, votre responsabilité était d’être celui qui fournirait le relevé historique exact de l’Esprit de Prophétie. Vous deviez être celui qui défendrait l’Esprit de Prophétie. Et, dans votre présentation de Early Writings, page 75, vous avez fait fi des sources originales, et ces sources originales disent que, lorsque vous avez avancé l’argument selon lequel le Daily doit être considéré dans le contexte du temps dans Early Writings, 74, cela est absolument faux. »—C’est faux! Cela ne peut être soutenu par le témoignage de l’Esprit de Prophétie. Cela ne peut être soutenu par l’histoire de cette période.
Okay. Point 1, Sister White says that there is a correct view of the Daily, in Early Writings, 74. The primary argument that is foisted later on in history is that when you study that passage in Early Writings, 74, you have to place it in the context of time setting. That argument is bogus; it is not valid!
D’accord. Au point 1, Sœur White déclare qu’il existe une juste compréhension du « Perpétuel », dans Premiers Écrits, p. 74. L’argument principal imposé plus tard au cours de l’histoire est que, lorsque l’on étudie ce passage de Premiers Écrits, p. 74, il faut le replacer dans le contexte de la fixation du temps. Cet argument est fallacieux ; il n’est pas valable !
So, now we are stuck with just the position that there is a correct view of the Daily. Okay? But, we are going to take up one more thought out of this paragraph.
Så nu står vi altså kun tilbage med det standpunkt, at der findes en rigtig forståelse af det daglige. Okay? Men vi vil tage endnu en tanke op fra dette afsnit.
It says, "September 23d, the Lord showed me . . . ." September 23d, when? 1850: "September 23d, 1850, the Lord showed me."
A ce a cikin rubutun, “23 ga Satumba, Ubangiji ya nuna mini . . . .” 23 ga Satumba, yaushe? 1850: “23 ga Satumba, 1850, Ubangiji ya nuna mini.”
What did He show her?
Que lui montra-t-Il ?
Well one of the things that He showed her was that since 1844, other views of the Daily have been embraced.
Or, l’une des choses qu’Il lui montra fut que, depuis 1844, d’autres conceptions du « Perpétuel » ont été adoptées.
"September 23, 1850 the Lord showed me . . . . When union existed, before 1844, nearly all were united on the correct view of the —Daily;' but since 1844, in the confusion, other views have been embraced, and darkness and confusion has followed. The Review and Herald, November 1850."
«Le 23 septembre 1850, le Seigneur me montra . . . . Lorsque l’unité régnait, avant 1844, presque tous étaient unis dans la juste compréhension du “—Daily;” mais depuis 1844, dans la confusion, d’autres vues ont été adoptées, et les ténèbres et la confusion ont suivi. The Review and Herald, novembre 1850.»
March 1850 The "Daily" is the Earthly Sanctuary
Mars 1850 Le « perpétuel » est le sanctuaire terrestre
So, on the bottom of page 6 you have a paragraph that comes from the Review and Herald of March 1850, and it is an article by David Arnold.
Así, al pie de la página 6 tienen un párrafo que proviene de la Review and Herald de marzo de 1850, y es un artículo de David Arnold.
"He [Daniel] also sees the same oppressive power —standing up against the Prince of princes;' thus putting an end to the legality of all the daily sacrifices instituted at Sinai to be daily observed until the Seed should come. Here Christ, the substance, or great antitypical sacrifice was slain by the Roman soldiers. Thus by Rome —the daily sacrifice was taken away,' and the place of his sanctuary was cast down by Titus, a Roman general, when he destroyed the city of Jerusalem, and the temple of God, which contained —the sanctuary.' Here commenced the fulfillment of Christ's prophetic declaration. And they shall fall by the edge of the sword and shall be led away captive into all nations, and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, UNTIL THE TIMES OF THE GENTILES BE FULFILLED.' Luke 21:24." David Arnold, Review and Herald, March 1850, Volume 1, Number 8.
„On [Daniel] uspořádá také vidí tutéž utlačovatelskou moc —jak povstává proti Knížeti knížat;‘ a tak činí konec zákonné platnosti všech každodenních obětí ustanovených na Sinaji, aby byly denně zachovávány, dokud nepřijde Símě. Zde byl Kristus, podstata neboli veliká předobrazná oběť, usmrcen římskými vojáky. Tak bylo Římem —odňato každodenní obětování‘ a místo jeho svatyně bylo strženo Titem, římským vojevůdcem, když zničil město Jeruzalém a chrám Boží, který obsahoval —svatyni.‘ Zde započalo naplnění Kristova prorockého výroku: A padnou ostrostí meče a budou odvedeni do zajetí mezi všechny národy a Jeruzalém bude pošlapáván pohany, DOKUD SE NENAPLNÍ ČASOVÉ OBDOBÍ POHANŮ.‘ Lukáš 21,24.“ David Arnold, Review and Herald, březen 1850, svazek 1, číslo 8.
In this article David Arnold teaches that the Daily in the Book of Daniel represents the Jewish sanctuary in Jerusalem that was removed by Pagan Rome in AD70.
Dalam artikel ini David Arnold mengajarkan bahwa “Daily” dalam Kitab Daniel melambangkan bait suci Yahudi di Yerusalem yang disingkirkan oleh Roma kafir pada tahun 70 M.
September 1850 The "Daily" is Christ's Sanctuary Ministry
Septemba 1850 “Daily” ni Misin blong Kraes long Sanctuary
Then in September 1850, the same year—and by the way, who is the editor of the Review and Herald in 1850? His name is James White.
Puis, en septembre 1850, cette même année — et d’ailleurs, qui est le rédacteur de la Review and Herald en 1850 ? Son nom est James White.
James White, then, in September of 1850, he prints an article by Crosier which teaches that the Daily represents Christ's Sanctuary ministry.
En septembre 1850, James White publie donc un article de Crosier qui enseigne que le « Perpétuel » représente le ministère du sanctuaire de Christ.
Now, James White does not teach it directly, but people take the inference there and say that is what he is teaching. And why am I saying this? I am saying this for his reason: In September of 1850, Sister White says that since 1844 other views of the Daily have been embraced in darkness and confusion has followed.
Karon, si James White dili man direkta nga nagtudlo niini, apan ang mga tawo mokuha sa nahibiling kahulogan didto ug moingon nga mao kana ang iyang ginatudlo. Ug nganong nagaingon man ako niini? Ginaingon ko kini tungod sa iyang katarungan: Niadtong Septiyembre sa 1850, miingon si Sister White nga sukad sa 1844 ang laing mga panglantaw bahin sa Daily gidawat diha sa kangitngit, ug ang kalibog misunod.
These two views [Arnold and Crosier] are not the Pioneer view that the Daily is Paganism.
Ces deux conceptions [Arnold et Crosier] ne sont pas la position pionnière selon laquelle le « quotidien » est le paganisme.
And on page 7 you have the two paragraphs from Crosier's article, where he is inferring that the Daily is Christ's Sanctuary ministry.
Et à la page 7, vous avez les deux paragraphes de l’article de Crosier, où il déduit que le « Perpétuel » est le ministère du sanctuaire du Christ.
"—And the place of His Sanctuary was cast down;' Daniel 8:11. This casting down was in the days and by the means of the Roman power; therefore, the Sanctuary of this text was not the Earth, nor Palestine, because the former was cast down at the fall, more than 4,000 years, and the latter at the captivity, more than 700 years previous to the event of this passage, and neither by Roman agency.
« —Et le lieu de Son Sanctuaire fut renversé ; » Daniel 8:11. Ce renversement eut lieu aux jours et par le moyen de la puissance romaine ; par conséquent, le Sanctuaire de ce texte n’était ni la Terre, ni la Palestine, puisque la première fut renversée lors de la chute, plus de 4 000 ans auparavant, et la seconde lors de la captivité, plus de 700 ans avant l’événement mentionné dans ce passage, et ni l’une ni l’autre ne le furent par l’action des Romains.
"The Sanctuary cast down is His against whom Rome magnified himself, which was the Prince of the host, Jesus Christ; and Paul teaches that His Sanctuary is in heaven. Again, Daniel 11:30–31, —For the ships of Chittim shall come against him; therefore, shall he be grieved and return, and have indignation (the staff to chastise) against the holy covenant (Christianity), so shall he do; he shall even return and have intelligence with them (priests and bishops) that forsake the holy covenant. And arms (civil and religious) shall stand on his part, and they (Rome and those that forsake the holy covenant) shall pollute the Sanctuary of strength.' What was this that Rome and the apostles of Christianity should joint pollute? This combination was formed against the —holy covenant', and it was the Sanctuary of that covenant they polluted; which they could do as well as to pollute the name of God; Jeremiah 34:16; Ezekiel 20; Malachi 1:7. This was the same as profaning or blaspheming His name. In this sense this —politico-religious' beast polluted the Sanctuary, (Revelation 13:6), and cast it down from its place in heaven, (Psalm 102:19; Jeremiah 17:12; Hebrews 8:1–2) when they called Rome the holy city, (Revelation 21:2) and installed the Pope there with the titles, —Lord God the Pope', —Holy Father', —Head of the Church', etc., and there, in the counterfeit, —temple of God', he professes to do what Jesus actually does in His Sanctuary; 2 Thessalonians 2:1–8. The Sanctuary has been trodden under foot (Daniel 8:13), the same as the Son of God has. (Hebrews 10:29.)" O. R. L. Crosier, —The Sanctuary', Review and Herald, September, 1850.
‘Μπετ ταναμπουρμάζα ντο Χισ αγκένστ χουμ Ρόμα μαγκνιφάιντ χιμσέλφ, χουάτς ουάζ δε Πρινς οβ δε χοστ, Τζίζας Κράιστ· και ο Παύλος διδάσκει ότι το Αγιαστήριό Του είναι στον ουρανό. Πάλιν, Daniel 11:30–31,—For the ships of Chittim shall come against him; therefore, shall he be grieved and return, and have indignation (the staff to chastise) against the holy covenant (Christianity), so shall he do; he shall even return and have intelligence with them (priests and bishops) that forsake the holy covenant. And arms (civil and religious) shall stand on his part, and they (Rome and those that forsake the holy covenant) shall pollute the Sanctuary of strength.’ Τι ήταν αυτό το οποίο η Ρώμη και οι αποστάτες του Χριστιανισμού θα μόλυναν από κοινού; Αυτός ο συνδυασμός σχηματίσθηκε εναντίον της ‘αγίας διαθήκης’, και ήταν το Αγιαστήριο εκείνης της διαθήκης το οποίο μόλυναν· πράγμα που μπορούσαν να πράξουν εξίσου όπως και να μολύνουν το όνομα του Θεού· Jeremiah 34:16; Ezekiel 20; Malachi 1:7. Αυτό ήταν το ίδιο με το να βεβηλώνουν ή να βλασφημούν το όνομά Του. Κατ’ αυτή την έννοια το ‘πολιτικο-θρησκευτικό’ αυτό θηρίο μόλυνε το Αγιαστήριο, (Revelation 13:6), και το κατέβασε από τη θέση του στον ουρανό, (Psalm 102:19; Jeremiah 17:12; Hebrews 8:1–2) όταν ονόμασαν τη Ρώμη αγία πόλη, (Revelation 21:2) και εγκατέστησαν εκεί τον Πάπα με τους τίτλους, ‘Κύριος Θεός ο Πάπας’, ‘Άγιος Πατέρας’, ‘Κεφαλή της Εκκλησίας’, κτλ., και εκεί, μέσα στον παραποιημένο ‘ναό του Θεού’, αυτός ομολογεί ότι πράττει εκείνο που ο Ιησούς πράγματι πράττει στο Αγιαστήριό Του· 2 Thessalonians 2:1–8. Το Αγιαστήριο έχει καταπατηθεί (Daniel 8:13), όπως ακριβώς και ο Υιός του Θεού. (Hebrews 10:29.)’ O. R. L. Crosier, ‘The Sanctuary’, Review and Herald, September, 1850.
The Logic of James White
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Why would James White print this article if he knew better? The reason for it is "The Logic of James White" in your notes.
Miks James White trükkis selle artikli, kui ta teadis paremini? Selle põhjuseks on teie märkmetes „James White’i loogika”.
The first thing that was printed after the Disappointment is called A Word to the Little Flock, and the three people who were authors in that publication were James and Ellen White and Joseph Bates. The first thing that was printed after October 22, 1844, by those people that were following on the path was this article; and, in this article Sister White endorses Crosier's view, not his view of the Daily but his view of Christ moving from the Holy Place to the Most Holy Place.
Le premier écrit qui fut publié après la Déception s’intitule A Word to the Little Flock, et les trois personnes qui en furent les auteurs étaient James et Ellen White, ainsi que Joseph Bates. Le premier document publié après le 22 octobre 1844 par ceux qui continuaient à marcher dans le sentier fut cet article ; et, dans cet article, sœur White approuve la position de Crosier, non pas sa position concernant le Continuel, mais sa compréhension du passage du Christ du lieu saint au lieu très saint.
Notice, this is Sister White. This is why James White would be willing to print Crosier's article, it says,
Veuillez noter qu’il s’agit ici de Sœur White. C’est pourquoi James White était disposé à publier l’article de Crosier ; il est dit,
"I believe the Sanctuary, to be cleansed at the end of the 2300 days, is the New Jerusalem Temple, of which Christ is a minister."—this is Ellen White—"The Lord shew me in vision, more than one year ago, that Brother Crosier had the true light, on the cleansing of the Sanctuary, &c; and that it was his will, that Brother C. should write out the view which he gave us in the Day-Star, Extra, February 7, 1846. I feel fully authorized by the Lord, to recommend that Extra, to every saint.
“Mina kredas, ke la Sanktejo, purigota je la fino de la 2300 tagoj, estas la Templo de la Nova Jerusalem, kies servanto estas Kristo.” — jen Ellen White — “La Eternulo montris al mi en vizio, antaŭ pli ol unu jaro, ke Frato Crosier havis la veran lumon pri la purigado de la Sanktejo, ktp.; kaj ke estis Lia volo, ke Frato C. skribu la vidon, kiun li donis al ni en la Day-Star, Extra, 7-an de februaro, 1846. Mi sentas min plene rajtigita de la Eternulo rekomendi tiun Extra al ĉiu sanktulo.”
"I pray that these lines may prove a blessing to you, and all the dear children who may read them." A Word to the Little Flock, May 12, 1847.
Ndinoshuwira kuti mitsara iyi ive chikomborero kwamuri, nokuvana vose vanodikanwa vangaverenga iyo. A Word to the Little Flock, May 12, 1847.
So, people even to this day, some of the modern historians in Adventism say, "Look at there. Ellen White is giving her blanket endorsement on Crosier's article; and, therefore, what Crosier said about the Daily being Christ's Sanctuary ministry that has to be true." And when they say that, they are misrepresenting history; because, Crosier's article had eight sections in it and, from the very beginning, the Adventists understood that four of those sections were total darkness and they have never, ever, ever been reprinted in Adventism.
त्यसैले, आजसम्म पनि, एडभेन्टिज्मका केही आधुनिक इतिहासकारहरू भन्छन्, “त्यहाँ हेर्नुहोस्। एलन ह्वाइटले क्रोसियरको लेखलाई आफ्नो पूर्ण समर्थन दिइरहेकी छिन्; र, त्यसकारण, ‘डेली’ ख्रीष्टको पवित्रस्थान-सेवाकर्म हो भन्ने विषयमा क्रोसियरले जे भने, त्यो सत्य हुनैपर्छ।” अनि जब उनीहरूले त्यसो भन्छन्, उनीहरूले इतिहासलाई गलत रूपमा प्रस्तुत गरिरहेका हुन्छन्; किनकि, क्रोसियरको लेखमा आठ खण्ड थिए र, सुरुदेखि नै, एडभेन्टिस्टहरूले बुझिसकेका थिए कि तीमध्ये चार खण्ड पूर्ण अन्धकार थिए, र तिनीहरूलाई एडभेन्टिज्ममा कहिल्यै, कहिल्यै, कहिल्यै पुनर्मुद्रण गरिएको छैन।
As an example, one of his positions in that article was that when Jesus returns there is going to be a thousand years of peace. Adventists do not believe that and they never did. That understanding is an understanding that William Miller rejected that actually puts William Miller in the right path for understanding truth. That teaching is one of the teachings that is directly opposite to Millerite understanding.
Bik’ehgo bee hane’ nídę́ę́ʼ, éí hólǫ́ doo t’áá łá’í yił yáhoot’ééł łikanígo biniinaa, Jesus aftur nááhoolkiłgo, haz’ą́ą́go t’ááłá’í duiztł’izhígíí bił hólǫ́ doo. Adventists éí díí doo ndaałnish da, dóó t’áá ajiłii’go doo baa ndaałnish da. Díí nitsáhákees éí William Miller yá’át’ééhgo doo nidaałtsą́ da, dóó díí t’áá shá bitahgo William Miller t’áá íiyisí yá’át’ééhígíí bee hane’ baa áhoot’ééłgo yił dah naashá. Díí bee nitsáhákees bíkáá’gi éí t’ááłá’í bee hane’ Millerite nitsáhákees biyi’doolwołgo t’áá nihá ałtso bee adáhodít’éego hólǫ́.
So, when Crosier comes out with this eight-part article, they know right off the bat that four of these parts are not reprintable.
Nun, als Crosier mit diesem achtteiligen Artikel hervortritt, wissen sie von Anfang an, dass vier dieser Teile nicht abdruckbar sind.
But, James White prints the part where Crosier does infer that the Daily is Christ's Sanctuary ministry; but, he is only going to reprint those four parts. He is not going to reprint the other four. But, in order for James White to reprint Crosier's four parts, he has to print it in two issues. He had to print it twice in September 1850.
Lakini, James White anachapisha sehemu ile ambamo Crosier anadokeza kwamba “Daily” ni huduma ya Kristo katika Patakatifu; lakini, yeye atachapisha tena sehemu hizo nne tu. Hatakwenda kuchapisha tena zile nne nyingine. Lakini, ili James White aweze kuchapisha tena sehemu nne za Crosier, ni lazima azichapishe katika matoleo mawili. Ilimbidi kuichapisha mara mbili mnamo Septemba 1850.
There was not enough room in his Review and Herald in September 1850, so he printed two Review and Heralds in September 1850 so he could get all of Crosier's article on Christ moving from the Holy Place to the Most Holy Place.
Enweghị ohere zuru ezu n’ime Review and Herald ya n’ọnwa Septemba 1850, ya mere o bipụtara Review and Herald abụọ n’ọnwa Septemba 1850 ka o wee nwee ike itinye n’ime ha niile isiokwu Crosier banyere Kraịst ịkwaga site n’Ebe Nsọ gaa n’Ebe Nsọ Kachasị Nsọ.
Now, you will notice from Gerard Damsteegt that he is giving the historical evaluation that Adventists always knew that there were parts of Crosier's articles that were incorrect and that they could not be reprinted.
À présent, vous remarquerez, d’après Gerard Damsteegt, qu’il fournit l’évaluation historique selon laquelle les adventistes ont toujours su qu’il y avait dans les articles de Crosier des éléments erronés et qu’ils ne pouvaient pas être réimprimés.
"She [Ellen Harmon] said: —The Lord showed me in vision, more than one year ago, that Brother Crosier had the true light, on the cleansing of the Sanctuary, &c; and that it was His will that Brother C. should write out the view which he gave us in the Day Star Extra, February 7, 1846. I feel fully authorized by the Lord, to recommend that Extra, to every saint' (Letter. E. G. White to Curtis, Word to the Little Flock, 12). Seventh-day Adventists have usually interpreted this statement to mean that Crosier's presentations were not without mistakes, but that his major typological argumentation was correct. Reprints of the article omitted the aspects which they felt to be inaccurate." P. Gerard Damsteegt, Foundations of the Seventh-day Adventist Message and Mission, 125.
„Hun [Ellen Harmon] sagði: —Drottinn sýndi mér í sýn, fyrir meira en einu ári, að bróðir Crosier hefði hið sanna ljós um hreinsun helgidómsins o.s.frv.; og að það væri vilji hans að bróðir C. skyldi setja á blað þá skoðun sem hann færði oss í Day Star Extra, 7. febrúar 1846. Mér finnst ég hafa fullt umboð frá Drottni til að mæla með því Extra við hvern einasta heilagan“ (Bréf. E. G. White til Curtis, Word to the Little Flock, 12). Sjöunda-dags aðventistar hafa yfirleitt túlkað þessa yfirlýsingu svo, að framsetning Crosiers hafi ekki verið án mistaka, en að megintúlkun hans á táknfræðilegum samsvörunum hafi verið rétt. Endurprentanir greinarinnar létu þá þætti falla brott sem þeir töldu ónákvæma.“ P. Gerard Damsteegt, Foundations of the Seventh-day Adventist Message and Mission, 125.
Never Could Reprint His Complete Document
Akòz sa, li pa t janm kapab reimprime dokiman li a an antye.
Now, on the next page you have W. A. Spicer giving testimony to the same thing: They always knew that Crosier's articles had error in them, and they never reprinted those four sections.
Maintenant, à la page suivante, vous avez W. A. Spicer rendant témoignage de la même chose : ils ont toujours su que les articles de Crosier contenaient des erreurs, et ils n’ont jamais réimprimé ces quatre sections.
"Sad to say, young Crosier walked in the light of the Sabbath truth but a very little time. He later repudiated the sanctuary teaching that he had helped to establish. Our pioneer brethren reprinted his exposition on the sanctuary several times in their early papers, but they never could reprint his complete document. In it he had added to the sanctuary exposition some ideas on the age to come a temporal millennium, with a glorious age on this earth at the Second Advent. These things our brethren always omitted. These teachings of the age to come were all abroad in those days. The doctrine never fitted in with the definite advent message; and doubtless this leaven of error helped to lead the younger men away from the Sabbath and the sanctuary truths. He soon turned to bitter opposition to our early movement." W. A. Spicer, Review and Herald, December 14, 1939
“باید با تأسف گفت که کرازیهٔ جوان تنها زمانی بسیار کوتاه در نورِ حقیقتِ سَبَّت گام برداشت. او بعدتر تعلیمِ مَقدِس را که خود در استوار ساختنِ آن یاری رسانده بود، انکار کرد. برادرانِ پیشگامِ ما شرحِ او را دربارهٔ مَقدِس چندین بار در نشریاتِ آغازینِ خود بازچاپ کردند، اما هرگز نتوانستند سندِ کاملِ او را تجدید چاپ کنند. او در آن، افزون بر شرحِ مَقدِس، پارهای اندیشهها نیز دربارهٔ عصرِ آینده افزوده بود: هزارهای زمانی، همراه با عصری باشکوه بر این زمین در هنگامِ آمدنِ دوباره. اینها چیزهایی بود که برادرانِ ما همواره حذف میکردند. این تعلیماتِ مربوط به عصرِ آینده در آن روزگار همهجا رواج داشت. این عقیده هرگز با پیامِ معیّنِ ظهور سازگار نبود؛ و بیگمان همین خمیرمایهٔ خطا به دور شدنِ مردانِ جوانتر از حقایقِ سَبَّت و مَقدِس یاری رساند. او بهزودی به مخالفتی تلخ با جنبشِ نخستینِ ما روی آورد.” W. A. Spicer, Review and Herald, December 14, 1939
The point is, there are those people today that take Sister White's endorsement of Crosier's article in A Word to the Little Flock, people like Heidi Heikes, Heidi Heikes with his foolish book about the Daily being Christ's Sanctuary ministry. This is one of his arguments.
L’essentiel est qu’il y a aujourd’hui des personnes qui prennent l’approbation par Sister White de l’article de Crosier dans A Word to the Little Flock—des personnes comme Heidi Heikes, Heidi Heikes avec son livre insensé sur le « Daily » comme étant le ministère de Christ dans le sanctuaire. C’est là l’un de ses arguments.
People that do this are disregarding the historical facts. They never could reprint all of Crosier's articles. And to insist that Ellen White's endorsement in A Word to the Little Flock is a blanket endorsement of Crosier's position is to insist that Adventists believe that there is going to be a thousand years of peace. It is a foolish argument.
Watu wanaofanya hivyo wanapuuza ukweli wa kihistoria. Kamwe wasingeweza kuchapisha tena makala zote za Crosier. Na kusisitiza kwamba uthibitisho wa Ellen White katika A Word to the Little Flock ni uthibitisho wa jumla wa msimamo wa Crosier ni sawa na kusisitiza kwamba Waadventista wanaamini kwamba kutakuwa na miaka elfu moja ya amani. Huo ni hoja ya kipumbavu.
It is a misrepresentation of history, and it is done to deceive people and to produce confusion and darkness.
C’est une falsification de l’histoire, et cela est fait pour tromper les gens et pour produire la confusion et les ténèbres.
So, you have two historians, Spicer who is deceased and Damsteegt who is still alive; but, I guarantee you, Spicer or Damsteegt, neither one of them, would agree with me with what I present. Okay, they would not. So, you have two antagonistic historians that are in agreement with what I am telling you. There is no justification whatsoever for taking Ellen White's endorsement of Crosier's article to mean that everything in it was perfect.
Ainsi, vous avez deux historiens, Spicer, qui est décédé, et Damsteegt, qui est encore vivant; mais je vous garantis que ni Spicer ni Damsteegt ne seraient d’accord avec ce que je présente. D’accord, ils ne le seraient pas. Vous avez donc deux historiens antagonistes qui sont d’accord avec ce que je vous dis. Il n’existe absolument aucune justification pour interpréter l’approbation par Ellen White de l’article de Crosier comme signifiant que tout ce qu’il contenait était parfait.
The Advent Review—Volume 1, Auburn NY, Number 3
Le Revue de l’Avent — Volume 1, Auburn (New York), Numéro 3
The Advent Review—Volume 1, Auburn NY, Number 4
L’Advent Review — Volume 1, Auburn, New York, Numéro 4
The Advent Review—Volume 1, Auburn NY, Number Special
La Revue de l’Avent — Volume 1, Auburn (État de New York), Numéro spécial
When James White began to print Crosier's article in September of 1850, of The Review and Herald, that was Volume 1, Number 3
Madariki James White kuchapisha makala ya Crosier katika Septemba 1850, katika The Review and Herald, hiyo ilikuwa Juzuu ya 1, Namba 3.
But, he could not get it all in Volume 1, Number 3; so, he finished off the article in Volume 1 of The Review and Herald,, Number 4. And when did he do this? In September of 1850.
Mais il ne put tout faire tenir dans le volume 1, numéro 3 ; il acheva donc l’article dans le volume 1 de The Review and Herald, numéro 4. Et quand fit-il cela ? En septembre 1850.
Well, what happened in September of 1850? Sister White had a vision that says, "September 23, 1850 the Lord showed me . . . . When union existed, before 1844, nearly all were united on the correct view of the —Daily;' but since 1844, in the confusion, other views have been embraced, and darkness and confusion has followed. The Review and Herald, November 1850."
Fa, que se passa-t-il en septembre 1850 ? Sœur White eut une vision qui dit : « Le 23 septembre 1850, le Seigneur m’a montré . . . . Lorsque l’union existait, avant 1844, presque tous étaient unis dans la compréhension correcte du “Continuel” ; mais depuis 1844, dans la confusion, d’autres vues ont été adoptées, et les ténèbres ainsi que la confusion ont suivi. The Review and Herald, novembre 1850. »
Who was her husband? He was the editor of The Review and Herald.
Ụ̀nwoke ya bụ onye? Ọ bụ onye nchịkọta akụkọ nke *The Review and Herald*.
So, what did he do when his wife said, "Do you know what I just was told by the Lord, James? I was told that we were not supposed to be introducing the views of the Daily that contradict the Pioneer understanding that the Daily is Paganism, because it is bringing darkness and confusion."
Alors, que fit-il lorsque sa femme lui dit : « Sais-tu ce que le Seigneur vient de me dire, James ? Il m’a été dit que nous ne devions pas introduire les vues sur le Continu qui contredisent la compréhension des pionniers selon laquelle le Continu est le paganisme, parce que cela apporte les ténèbres et la confusion. »
So, what did James White do? In September of 1850 he printed another Review and Herald, three in one month. It is called Volume 1, Special Edition.
ดังนั้น เจมส์ ไวต์ ได้ทำอะไร? ในเดือนกันยายน ค.ศ. 1850 เขาได้จัดพิมพ์ Review and Herald ฉบับหนึ่งขึ้นอีก เป็นสามฉบับภายในเดือนเดียว ฉบับนั้นมีชื่อว่า Volume 1, Special Edition.
And what did he do? He reprinted Crosier's article and removed what Crosier said about the Daily!
Ve ne yaptı? Crosier’in makalesini yeniden bastı ve Crosier’in “Daily” hakkında söylediklerini çıkardı!
Brothers and Sisters, this is historical proof that James and Ellen White understood that Crosier's view about the Daily was wrong and that it brought darkness and confusion.
Bratři a sestry, toto je historický důkaz, že James a Ellen Whiteovi rozuměli tomu, že Crosierův názor na „Denní“ byl mylný a že přinášel temnotu a zmatek.
And what was Crosier's view about the Daily? That it was Christ's Sanctuary ministry.
Y ¿cuál era la opinión de Crosier acerca del Continuo? Que era el ministerio de Cristo en el Santuario.
So, in Early Writings, 74, when she says, "September 23rd, the Lord showed me that the Millerites had the correct view of the Daily," the historical evidence is that the Millerites understood—
ff ನಲ್ಲಿ ಅನುವಾದಿಸಬೇಕಾದ ಪಠ್ಯವು ಸ್ಪಷ್ಟವಾಗಿಲ್ಲ, ಏಕೆಂದರೆ “ff” ಎಂಬ ಗುರಿ ಭಾಷೆಯನ್ನು ಗುರುತಿಸಲು ಸಾಧ್ಯವಾಗುತ್ತಿಲ್ಲ. ದಯವಿಟ್ಟು “ff” ಎಂದರೆ ಯಾವ ಭಾಷೆ ಎಂದು ತಿಳಿಸಿ; ನಂತರ ನಾನು ಕೇವಲ ಅನುವಾದಿತ ಪಠ್ಯವನ್ನೇ ನೀಡುತ್ತೇನೆ.
Now, Brothers and Sisters, Brothers and Sisters, do not miss this fact: What is this: September 1850 Sister White is shown that since 1844 other views of the Daily had been embraced; May 1850, Arnold presents the Daily as the Jewish sanctuary; September 1850, part 1 of 2 of Crosier's article is published, inclusive of his presentation of the Daily as Christ's Sanctuary ministry; September 1850, part 2 of 2 of Crosier's article is published; September 1850, Crosier's article is reprinted, but his view on the Daily has been removed? What is taking place?
ଭାଇମାନେ ଓ ଭଉଣୀମାନେ, ଭାଇମାନେ ଓ ଭଉଣୀମାନେ, ଏହି ସତ୍ୟକୁ ଚୁକିଯିବେ ନାହିଁ: ଏହା କ’ଣ? ସେପ୍ଟେମ୍ବର 1850ରେ ସିଷ୍ଟର ହ୍ୱାଇଟ୍ଙ୍କୁ ଦେଖାଯାଏ ଯେ 1844 ପରଠାରୁ “the Daily” ସମ୍ବନ୍ଧରେ ଅନ୍ୟାନ୍ୟ ମତାମତ ଗ୍ରହଣ କରାଯାଇଥିଲା; ମେ 1850ରେ ଆର୍ନୋଲ୍ଡ “the Daily” କୁ ଯିହୁଦୀ ପବିତ୍ରସ୍ଥାନ ବୋଲି ପ୍ରସ୍ତୁତ କରନ୍ତି; ସେପ୍ଟେମ୍ବର 1850ରେ କ୍ରୋସିଅରଙ୍କ ଲେଖାର 2 ମଧ୍ୟରୁ 1ମ ଭାଗ ପ୍ରକାଶିତ ହୁଏ, ଯାହାରେ “the Daily” କୁ ଖ୍ରୀଷ୍ଟଙ୍କ ପବିତ୍ରସ୍ଥାନୀୟ ସେବାକାର୍ଯ୍ୟ ଭାବରେ ତାଙ୍କ ପ୍ରସ୍ତୁତି ସମ୍ମିଳିତ ଅଛି; ସେପ୍ଟେମ୍ବର 1850ରେ କ୍ରୋସିଅରଙ୍କ ଲେଖାର 2 ମଧ୍ୟରୁ 2ୟ ଭାଗ ପ୍ରକାଶିତ ହୁଏ; ସେପ୍ଟେମ୍ବର 1850ରେ କ୍ରୋସିଅରଙ୍କ ଲେଖା ପୁନର୍ମୁଦ୍ରିତ ହୁଏ, କିନ୍ତୁ “the Daily” ସମ୍ବନ୍ଧରେ ତାଙ୍କର ମତକୁ ହଟାଇ ଦିଆଯାଇଛି? କ’ଣ ଘଟୁଛି?
We see the same year that this 1850 Chart is produced, and what does this Chart say about the Daily? "Pagan Dominion or The DAILY taken away. Dan. 11:31 508."
우리는 이 1850년 도표가 제작된 바로 그 해를 본다. 그리고 이 도표는 매일에 관하여 무엇이라고 말하는가? “이교의 지배, 곧 제거된 그 DAILY. 단. 11:31 508.”
Ellen White knew what those who gave the Judgment Hour's cry position of the Daily was. When she says they had the correct view, she knew that the correct view was that it represented the Pagan Dominion being taken; the Daily represented Paganism.
Ellen White connaissait la position relative au « Perpétuel » de ceux qui proclamèrent le message de l’heure du jugement. Lorsqu’elle dit qu’ils avaient la conception correcte, elle savait que cette conception correcte était qu’il représentait l’enlèvement de la domination païenne ; le « Perpétuel » représentait le paganisme.
And in this year, 1850, the historical record proves that she rejected and her husband rejected the teaching that the Daily represents Christ Sanctuary ministry, which is the teaching that the Biblical Research Institute of the Seventh-day Adventist Church upholds. It is the teaching that the self-supporting ministries, such as Heartland and Steps to Life support. It is the teaching that brings darkness and confusion.
Oo khan oo, 1850, rikoodhii taariikhiga ahaa wuxuu caddeynayaa in iyadu diidday, ninkeeduna diiday, waxbaridda ah in “the Daily” ay ka dhigan tahay adeegga Masiixa ee macbudka, taas oo ah waxbaridda uu haysto Machadka Cilmi-baarista Kitaabiga ah ee Kaniisadda Seventh-day Adventist. Waa waxbaridda ay taageeraan adeegyada is-maamula, sida Heartland iyo Steps to Life. Waa waxbaridda keenta gudcur iyo jahawareer.
Now, notice this concerning the 1850 Chart. This is in November of 1850. This is the same month that she has the vision that she records that ultimately goes through the evolution in 1851, and then in 1882 ends up in Early Writing, in this very month, in this very month, in November of 1850. It says,
Ahora bien, obsérvese esto en relación con la Carta de 1850. Esto es en noviembre de 1850. Este es el mismo mes en que ella tiene la visión que registra y que finalmente pasa por el proceso de evolución en 1851, y luego, en 1882, termina en Primeros Escritos, en este mismo mes, en este mismo mes, en noviembre de 1850. Dice,
"Monday we returned to Dorchester where our dear Brother Nichols and family live."—
„Montag kehrten wir nach Dorchester zurück, wo unser lieber Bruder Nichols und seine Familie wohnen.“
Right up here [referring to the 1850 Chart, upper right-hand corner], "Published by Otis Nichols, Dorchester, Massachusetts." Okay? She is talking about this, right? Do you see it, this Chart?
Ici même [en référence au tableau de 1850, dans le coin supérieur droit] : « Published by Otis Nichols, Dorchester, Massachusetts. » D’accord ? C’est de cela qu’elle parle, n’est-ce pas ? Le voyez-vous, ce tableau ?
—"There in the night God gave me a very interesting vision, the most of which you will see in the paper. God shewed me the necessity of getting out a chart. I saw it was needed and that the truth made plain upon tables would effect much and would cause souls to come to the knowledge of the truth." Manuscript Releases, number 15, 210 November, 1850.
—«Là, pendant la nuit, Dieu me donna une vision très intéressante, dont vous verrez la plus grande partie dans le journal. Dieu me montra la nécessité de publier un tableau. Je vis qu’il était nécessaire et que la vérité rendue claire sur des tables produirait beaucoup d’effet et amènerait des âmes à la connaissance de la vérité.» Manuscript Releases, no 15, 210, novembre 1850.
She had a vision at Nichols's house in Dorchester—that is all on this Chart—saying, "You need to make a chart."
Roedd ganddi weledigaeth yn nhŷ Nichols yn Dorchester—mae hynny oll ar y Siart hwn—gan ddweud, “Mae arnoch angen gwneud siart.”
And what does she say about the chart? How does she describe it?
Et que dit-elle au sujet du tableau ? Comment le décrit-elle ?
Go to Habakkuk 2, "I saw the need of getting out a chart," and what would it do? It was needed, "that the truth made plain upon tables." Habakkuk 2, verse 2, says, "And the Lord answered me and said, Write the vision, and make it plain upon tables, . . . ." She is saying that this Otis Nichols 1850 Chart, printed in Dorchester, Massachusetts, is a fulfillment of Habakkuk, just like she says in The Great Controversy that the 1843 Chart is a fulfillment of Habakkuk.
Aller à Habakuk 2 : « Je vis la nécessité de faire paraître un tableau » ; et que devait-il faire ? Il était nécessaire « afin que la vérité fût rendue claire sur des tables ». Habakuk 2, verset 2, dit : « Et l’Éternel me répondit et dit : Écris la vision, et grave-la clairement sur des tables, . . . . » Elle dit que ce tableau de 1850 d’Otis Nichols, imprimé à Dorchester, Massachusetts, est un accomplissement d’Habakuk, tout comme elle dit dans The Great Controversy que le tableau de 1843 est un accomplissement d’Habakuk.
Okay, do you see that? Do you see when she got this vision? In the same time that this was going on: "September 23d, the Lord showed me . . . . that the teaching of the Daily as Christ's Sanctuary ministry brings darkness and confusion," and her husband immediately reprinted the article and removed those two paragraphs. It was never reprinted again in Adventism until 1931 when Willie White reprinted it; and, when he did so, he had some false witness in the very tract that he printed. It can be demonstrated.
D’accord, voyez-vous cela ? Voyez-vous à quel moment elle a reçu cette vision ? Au même moment où ceci se déroulait : « Le 23 septembre, le Seigneur m’a montré . . . . que l’enseignement du “Continuel” comme ministère de Christ dans le Sanctuaire apporte ténèbres et confusion », et son mari réimprima aussitôt l’article en enlevant ces deux paragraphes. Il ne fut plus jamais réimprimé dans l’adventisme jusqu’en 1931, lorsque Willie White le réimprima ; et, lorsqu’il le fit, il y avait un faux témoignage dans le tract même qu’il imprima. Cela peut être démontré.
Now, I want to read something here to you, a longer quote, about this same time period. This is from November 27, 1850.
Maintenant, je veux vous lire ici quelque chose, une citation plus longue, concernant cette même période. Cela date du 27 novembre 1850.
"I have neglected writing you for some time. I will now give my reasons. First, I had no time to write for weeks after I received Sister Arabella's kind and welcome letter, or I should have complied with her request to have answered it within two weeks. I liked the letter very much. We were all interested in the letter and hope my delay will not prevent you from answering this as soon as you read it, and I will not wait so long next time.
Ég hef um nokkurt skeið vanrækt að skrifa yður. Nú mun ég færa yður ástæður mínar. Í fyrsta lagi hafði ég engan tíma til að skrifa vikum saman eftir að ég veitti viðtöku hinu góðviljaða og kærkomna bréfi systur Arabellu, ella hefði ég orðið við ósk hennar um að svara því innan tveggja vikna. Mér líkaði bréfið mjög vel. Vér höfðum öll áhuga á bréfinu og vonum, að dráttur minn muni ekki hindra yður í að svara þessu jafnskjótt og þér lesið það, og ég mun ekki bíða svo lengi næst.
"James' and my health is quite good now. Our home is in Paris, at Brother Andrews', within a few steps of the post office and printing office. We shall stay here some little time. This is a very kind family, yet quite poor. Everything here is free as far as they have. We do not think it right to be any expense to them while here. I want to see you all very much and dear Sister Gorham.
La santé de James et la mienne est maintenant assez bonne. Notre demeure est à Paris, chez le frère Andrews, à quelques pas seulement de la poste et de l’imprimerie. Nous resterons ici quelque temps encore. C’est une famille très bienveillante, quoique fort pauvre. Ici, tout ce qu’ils possèdent est mis gratuitement à disposition. Nous ne jugeons pas juste de leur occasionner la moindre dépense pendant notre séjour. J’ai un très grand désir de vous voir tous, ainsi que la chère sœur Gorham.
"Our conference at Topsham was one of deep interest. Twenty-eight were present; all took part in the meeting.
“Konferans nou an nan Topsham te yon rankont ki te gen anpil enpòtans. Vennuit moun te prezan; tout te patisipe nan reyinyon an.
"Sunday the power of God came upon us like a mighty rushing wind. All arose upon their feet and praised God with a loud voice; it was something as it was when the foundation of the house of God was laid. The voice of weeping could not be told from the voice of shouting. It was a triumphant time; all were strengthened and refreshed. I never witnessed such a powerful time before.
Please provide the target language for “ff” so I can translate the passage accurately.
"Our next conference was in Fairhaven. Brother Bates and wife were present. It was quite a good meeting. On our return to Brother Nichols', the Lord gave me a vision and showed me that the truth must be made plain upon tables, and it would cause many to decide for the truth by the three angels' messages, with the two former being made plain upon tables."—
« Notre conférence suivante eut lieu à Fairhaven. Le frère Bates et son épouse étaient présents. Ce fut une excellente réunion. À notre retour chez le frère Nichols, le Seigneur me donna une vision et me montra que la vérité devait être rendue claire sur des tableaux, et que cela amènerait beaucoup de personnes à se décider pour la vérité par les messages des trois anges, les deux premiers étant rendus clairs sur des tableaux. »—
That is right down here, [indicating the lower left corner of the 1850 Chart]. Okay? They are on this Chart, what she is talking about.
Saktemu þarna niðri, [með bendingu á neðra vinstra hornið á töflunni frá 1850]. Allt í lagi? Þeir eru á þessari töflu, það sem hún er að tala um.
—"I also saw it was as necessary for the paper to be published as for the messengers to go, for the messengers need a paper to carry with them, containing present truth, to put in the hands of those that hear, and then the truth would not fade from the mind, and that the paper would go where the messengers could not go. Other things I saw which will appear in the paper.
—«Я также увидела, что издание этого листка столь же необходимо, как и то, чтобы шли вестники; ибо вестникам нужен печатный лист, который они могли бы носить с собою, содержащий настоящую истину, чтобы вкладывать его в руки слушающих, и тогда истина не изгладится из ума; и что этот листок пойдёт туда, куда вестники не могут пойти. И иное я увидела, что будет помещено в листке.
"How do you all get along? Are you all striving for eternal life? I want to see you very, very much and think I shall before long. Now is the preparation time and I hope we shall all make sure work for eternity. Time looks very short and what we do we must do quickly.
« Comment allez-vous tous ? Aspirez-vous tous à la vie éternelle ? J’ai un très, très grand désir de vous voir, et je pense que ce sera sous peu. C’est maintenant le temps de la préparation, et j’espère que nous travaillerons tous avec assurance pour l’éternité. Le temps paraît très court, et ce que nous avons à faire, nous devons le faire promptement. »
"November 20, one week ago, Brother Henry Nichols and self went to Topsham. We had just risen from the dinner table Thursday [Nov. 21], when one of Brother Foey's children came in and said their mother was insensible. We hastened over the river one mile and found our dear Sister Foey dying. My distress was great as I found she did not know me. She continued long in great distress until between three and four o'clock and then breathed her last. She has left a husband and three children to mourn their loss.
Le 20 novembre, il y a une semaine, le frère Henry Nichols et moi-même nous sommes rendus à Topsham. Nous venions de nous lever de table, jeudi [21 nov.], lorsqu’un des enfants du frère Foey entra et dit que leur mère était sans connaissance. Nous nous hâtâmes de traverser la rivière, à un mille de là, et trouvâmes notre chère sœur Foey mourante. Ma détresse fut grande lorsque je constatai qu’elle ne me reconnaissait pas. Elle demeura longtemps dans une grande souffrance jusqu’entre trois et quatre heures, puis rendit le dernier soupir. Elle a laissé un mari et trois enfants pour pleurer leur perte.
"Friday morning [Nov. 22], Brother Henry came to Paris for James to shave him to attend the funeral. We had a very solemn, interesting time. The Lord did not leave us but let His Spirit rest upon us. Sister Foey's last days were decidedly her most spiritual and best days. Brother Foey has this to console him, that she died a Christian. He bears up well. God gives him grace to endure the affliction. Oh, how good it is to have a hope in God that will sustain in all scenes of trial and affliction. Praise God for a hope, a good hope. What would you, any of you, give for your hope?
«В пятницу утром [22 ноября] брат Генри пришёл в Париж, чтобы Джеймс побрил его для участия в похоронах. Мы провели весьма торжественное и глубокое время. Господь не оставил нас, но дал Своему Духу почивать на нас. Последние дни сестры Фоуи были несомненно самыми духовными и лучшими днями её жизни. У брата Фоуи есть это утешение: она умерла христианкой. Он переносит всё это стойко. Бог даёт ему благодать переносить это горе. О, как хорошо иметь упование на Бога, которое поддержит во всякой поре испытания и скорби. Слава Богу за упование, за благое упование. Что бы вы, каждый из вас, отдали за своё упование?»
"Hold fast the faith. Be strong in God and lean upon His everlasting arm. It will never fail you but will bear you up under every affliction. I hope you will all grow stronger and stronger in the truth. Do not falter but press your way to the kingdom."—
“Tiidha amantii jabeessaadhaan qabadhaa. Waaqayyotti jabaadhaa, irree isaa bara baraa irrattis hirkadhaa. Inni gonkumaa isin hin kufchiisu; gidiraa hundumaa keessatti immoo isin ni deeggarra. Isin hundinuu dhugaa keessatti caalaatti jabaachaa akka guddattan nan abdadha. Hin laafinaa, garuu daandii keessan mootummaa sanaatti cimsaadhaan itti fufaa.”—
Here we go. Here is what I want you to see.
Emi aa nso. Eyi ne nea mepɛ sɛ wuhu.
—"One week ago, last Sabbath, we had a very interesting meeting. Brother Hewit from Dead River was there. He came with a message to the effect that the destruction of the wicked and the sleep of the dead was an abomination within a shut door that a woman Jezebel, a prophetess had brought in and he believed that I was that woman, Jezebel."—
—« Il y a une semaine, le sabbat dernier, nous avons eu une réunion fort intéressante. Le frère Hewit, de Dead River, était là. Il est venu avec un message selon lequel la destruction des méchants et le sommeil des morts constituaient une abomination à l’intérieur d’une porte fermée qu’une femme, Jézabel, une prophétesse, avait introduite, et il croyait que j’étais cette femme, Jézabel. »—
Okay? Brother Hewit is saying that Ellen White is Jezebel and she has introduced three errors.
D’accord ? Le frère Hewit dit qu’Ellen White est Jézabel et qu’elle a introduit trois erreurs.
"—We told him of some of his errors in the past, that the 1335 days were ended and numerous errors of his. It had but little effect. His darkness was felt upon the meeting and it dragged."—
«—موږ هغه ته د پخوا زمانې د خپلو ځينو تېروتنو يادونه وکړه، دا چې د ۱۳۳۵ ورځو موده پای ته رسېدلې وه، او همدارنګه د هغه ګڼې نورې تېروتنې. خو اغېز يې ډېر لږ و. د هغه تياره پر غونډه محسوسېده او غونډه يې درنه او اوږده کړه.»
Now, I want you to see this. I have something to say about this paragraph that I want you to follow, if you can.
À présent, je veux que vous voyiez ceci. J’ai quelque chose à dire au sujet de ce paragraphe, et je veux que vous le suiviez, si vous le pouvez.
If you have ever dealt with those in Adventism that reapply the time prophecies at the end of the world, they only have three quotes that they use—they use lots of quotes, but they have three primary quotes that they use. This is one of them; because, they will go there and say, "We told him of some of his errors in the past," and they will claim that when she says "that the 1335 days were ended" that that was one of his errors. Do you see how you can kind of twist that grammar a little bit: "We told him of some of his errors in the past? We also told him that the 1335 days were ended; but the time setters say we told him some of his errors in the past and one of those errors was that you are teaching the 1335 days is ended and that is an error." So, you can twist it either way.
यदि आपने कभी एडवेंटिज़्म के भीतर उन लोगों से व्यवहार किया है जो संसार के अंत में समय-संबंधी भविष्यवाणियों को फिर से लागू करते हैं, तो वे केवल तीन उद्धरणों पर निर्भर रहते हैं जिन्हें वे प्रयोग करते हैं—वे बहुत-से उद्धरणों का उपयोग करते हैं, परन्तु उनके पास तीन मुख्य उद्धरण हैं जिन्हें वे प्रयोग में लाते हैं। यह उन्हीं में से एक है; क्योंकि वे वहाँ जाकर कहेंगे, “हमने उसे अतीत में उसकी कुछ त्रुटियों के विषय में बताया था,” और वे यह दावा करेंगे कि जब वह कहती है, “कि 1335 दिन समाप्त हो चुके थे,” तब वही उसकी त्रुटियों में से एक थी। क्या आप देखते हैं कि इस व्याकरण को किस प्रकार थोड़ा-सा मोड़ा जा सकता है: “हमने उसे अतीत में उसकी कुछ त्रुटियों के विषय में बताया था? हमने उसे यह भी बताया था कि 1335 दिन समाप्त हो चुके थे”; परन्तु समय-निर्धारक कहेंगे, हमने उसे अतीत में उसकी कुछ त्रुटियों के विषय में बताया था, और उन त्रुटियों में से एक यह थी कि तुम यह सिखा रहे हो कि 1335 दिन समाप्त हो चुके हैं, और यह एक त्रुटि है। अतः आप इसे किसी भी प्रकार मोड़ सकते हैं।
The first time I had a face-to-face confrontation with Eugene Prewitt was in Oklahoma, and he is arguing that the Millerite History does not repeat at the end of the world, and I give him a couple of quotes in the Spirit of Prophecy.
ครั้งแรกที่ข้าพเจ้าได้เผชิญหน้ากับ Eugene Prewitt โดยตรงคือที่โอคลาโฮมา และเขากำลังโต้แย้งว่าประวัติศาสตร์ของขบวนการมิลเลอไรต์มิได้เกิดซ้ำอีกในวาระสุดท้ายของโลก และข้าพเจ้าก็ได้ยกคำอ้างอิงสองตอนจากพระวิญญาณแห่งคำพยากรณ์ให้แก่เขา
And he says, "Jeff, you know that Ellen White was a careless writer."
Ka a re, “Jeff, ua tseba hore Ellen White e ne e le mongoli ea sa tsotelleng.”
And I said, "What do you mean?"
Et je dis : « Que veux-tu dire ? »
And he went to this quote. He says that this quote proves that she is a careless writer; because she knows that I know that the time setters can twist this quote, if they wish to.
En li al a este passage. Il dice que iste passage prova que illa es un scriba negligente; perque illa sape que io sape que le fixatores de tempore pote torquer iste passage, si illes lo vole.
Now, the fact that someplace like Washita has the influence that teaches its students that Ellen White is a careless writer is one thing; but, is she a careless writer here?
Now, der Umstand, dass ein Ort wie Washita den Einfluss ausübt, seine Studenten zu lehren, Ellen White sei eine nachlässige Schriftstellerin, ist das eine; aber ist sie hier eine nachlässige Schriftstellerin?
—"I felt that I must say a few words. In the name of Jesus, I got up and in about five minutes the meeting changed. Everyone felt it at the same instant. Every countenance was lighted up. The presence of God filled the place. Brother Hewit dropped upon his knees and began to cry and pray. I was taken off in vision and saw much that I cannot write. It had a great effect upon Brother Hewit. He confessed it was of God and was humbled in the dust. He has been writing ever since that meeting, and is now writing from the same table renouncing all his errors that he has advanced. I believe God is bringing him up and he is calculated to do good, if God moves through him.
—«Jeg følte at jeg måtte si noen få ord. I Jesu navn reiste jeg meg, og på omkring fem minutter ble møtet forandret. Alle kjente det i samme øyeblikk. Alles ansikter ble opplyst. Guds nærvær fylte stedet. Bror Hewit falt på kne og begynte å gråte og be. Jeg ble tatt bort i syn og så mye som jeg ikke kan skrive. Det hadde stor virkning på bror Hewit. Han bekjente at det var av Gud og ydmyket seg i støvet. Helt siden det møtet har han skrevet, og skriver nå ved det samme bord og frasier seg alle de villfarelser han har fremholdt. Jeg tror Gud fører ham frem, og at han er skikket til å gjøre godt, dersom Gud virker gjennom ham.
"Much love to dear Sister Gorham. Tell her to be strong. God is with her and He will not leave her. Much love to you all. I hope the children will not get sleepy, but will be interested in the truth and be diligent to make their calling and election sure. Write, be sure and write, and do not do as I have done. I love you, all of you. Write." Manuscript Releases, volume 16, 206–209. Written from Paris, Maine, November 27, 1850.
« Transmettez toute mon affection à la chère Sœur Gorham. Dites-lui d’être forte. Dieu est avec elle, et Il ne l’abandonnera pas. Toute mon affection à vous tous. J’espère que les enfants ne s’assoupiront pas, mais qu’ils s’intéresseront à la vérité et s’appliqueront avec diligence à affermir leur vocation et leur élection. Écrivez, oui, ne manquez pas d’écrire, et ne faites pas comme je l’ai fait. Je vous aime, vous tous. Écrivez. » Manuscript Releases, volume 16, 206–209. Écrit de Paris, Maine, le 27 novembre 1850.
Brothers and Sisters, what is the historical context of this; where is she writing this at? She is writing this in 1850, in Brother Nichols's house.
Bafowethu na Bodadewethu, siyini isimo somlando salokhu; ubhala lokhu kuphi na? Ubhala lokhu ngonyaka ka-1850, endlini kaMfoweth’ uNichols.
In this time period, what is the Lord doing? He is showing that the Pioneers have the correct view of the Daily, and she is dealing with that. She is saying that Christ's Sanctuary ministry is the false view of the Daily.
ในช่วงเวลานี้ องค์พระผู้เป็นเจ้ากำลังทรงกระทำอะไรอยู่? พระองค์กำลังทรงสำแดงว่าบรรดาผู้บุกเบิกมีความเข้าใจที่ถูกต้องเกี่ยวกับ “การถวายเนืองนิตย์” และนางก็กำลังจัดการกับประเด็นนั้นอยู่ นางกำลังกล่าวว่า พันธกิจของพระคริสต์ในสถานนมัสการศักดิ์สิทธิ์เป็นทัศนะอันเป็นเท็จเกี่ยวกับ “การถวายเนืองนิตย์”
In this history, this very history—not this very history and not just the very year, but the very month of the year she is getting visions and she is clarifying this truth about the Pioneer position of the Daily, saying those that gave the Judgment Hour Cry had the correct view of the Daily; and, in the same paragraph, she says, "I saw that the 1843 Chart was directed by the hand of the Lord and it should not be altered and that those that gave the Judgment Hour Cry had the correct view of the Daily."
Dalam sejarah ini, sejarah inilah—bukan sekadar sejarah ini dan bukan hanya tahun itu sendiri, melainkan bulan yang tepat dalam tahun ketika ia menerima penglihatan-penglihatan dan ketika ia menjelaskan kebenaran ini mengenai posisi para Perintis tentang Daily—ia mengatakan bahwa mereka yang menyampaikan Seruan Jam Penghakiman memiliki pandangan yang benar tentang Daily; dan, dalam paragraf yang sama, ia berkata, “Aku melihat bahwa Bagan 1843 diarahkan oleh tangan Tuhan dan tidak boleh diubah, dan bahwa mereka yang menyampaikan Seruan Jam Penghakiman memiliki pandangan yang benar tentang Daily.”
And what does it say about the Daily on this 1843 Chart? Well, it says that it was taken away in AD508; and, at 1335 years later brings you to 1843 and that the 1335 is in the past.
Nasaan at ano ang sinasabi nito tungkol sa “Daily” sa Tsart ng 1843? Buweno, sinasabi nito na ito ay inalis noong AD508; at, pagkalipas ng 1335 taon, dinadala ka nito sa 1843, at na ang 1335 ay nasa nakaraan.
Can you imagine, in the very month, in the very year, that she would tell Brother Hewit from Dead River that it was still future?
Pouvez-vous imaginer que, dans ce mois même, dans cette année même, elle dirait à Frère Hewit, de Dead River, que cela était encore à venir ?
Okay, these time setters, these time setters, and these people that believe that Sister White is a careless writer. History does not uphold this.
D’accord, ces fixateurs de dates, ces fixateurs de dates, et ces gens qui croient que Sister White est une écrivaine négligente. L’histoire ne confirme pas cela.
So, I want you to see, in connection with the Daily, Ellen White even understood the 1335.
Zato želim da vidite da je, u vezi sa Svagdanjom, Ellen White razumjela čak i 1335.
Ellen White just did not put her seal of approval on the Daily being Paganism; she understood that it started the 1335-year prophecy, which ended in 1843, and she defended that position in public against Brother Hewit from Dead River. Do you see that?
Ellen White hat nicht nur dem Verständnis ihre Zustimmung verliehen, dass das „Tägliche“ das Heidentum sei; sie verstand, dass damit die Weissagung der 1335 Jahre begann, die 1843 endete, und sie verteidigte diese Auffassung öffentlich gegen Bruder Hewit aus Dead River. Siehst du das?
And in the same month, where she is saying that Christ's Sanctuary ministry as the Daily only brings darkness and confusion; and, her husband, in response to that vision, removes that teaching from the Review and Herald.
وفي الشهر نفسه، حيث تقول إن خدمة المسيح في المقدس بوصفها «المحرقة الدائمة» لا تجلب إلا الظلمة والارتباك؛ فإن زوجها، استجابةً لتلك الرؤيا، يزيل ذلك التعليم من مجلة Review and Herald.
Up here in your notes, where it says "1850 Chart," this is what it says right here [referring to the third column from the left on the 1850 Chart, the text following Jesus on the cross in AD31]. I wanted you to be able to have it in your notes.
Acá arriba, en sus notas, donde dice «Carta de 1850», esto es lo que dice aquí mismo [refiriéndose a la tercera columna desde la izquierda en la Carta de 1850, el texto que sigue a Jesús en la cruz en el año 31 d.C.]. Quería que ustedes pudieran tenerlo en sus notas.
Away Daniel 11:31 508
ห่างออกไป ดาเนียล 11:31 508
And then on the 1843 Chart over here [referring to the center column, underneath Jesus on the cross in AD31]:
Et ensuite, sur la Carte de 1843 ici [faisant référence à la colonne centrale, sous Jésus sur la croix en l’an 31 apr. J.-C.] :
Taking away of the daily sacrifice. Dan. 12:11, 12
Îndepărtarea jertfei necurmate. Dan. 12:11, 12
Okay, these are these two Charts.
D’accord, voici ces deux tableaux.
Sister White understood that these men had the correct view, and she understood that it initiated the 1335-year prophecy that ended in 1843; and, she understood that it represented the Pagan Dominion being taken away in 508.
स्वेत बहिनीले बुझिन् कि ती मानिसहरूकै दृष्टिकोण सही थियो, र उनले बुझिन् कि त्यसले सन् 1843 मा समाप्त भएको 1335-वर्षीय भविष्यवाणीको प्रारम्भ गरायो; साथै, उनले बुझिन् कि यसले सन् 508 मा मूर्तिपूजक प्रभुत्व हटाइएकाको अर्थ व्यक्त गर्दछ।
Under these two references to the Charts you have another quote in the time period of Brother Nichols, and she is rebuking people from making other charts because their artwork is satanic; whereas, she says that the artwork upon these two Charts is heavenly. She says,
Sous ces deux références aux tableaux, vous avez encore une autre citation datant de la période de Frère Nichols, et elle réprimande ceux qui fabriquent d’autres tableaux, parce que leurs illustrations sont sataniques ; tandis qu’elle dit que les illustrations de ces deux tableaux sont célestes. Elle dit,
"I saw the chart-making business was all wrong. It originated with Brother Rhodes and was followed out by Brother Case. Means has been spent in making charts and forming uncouth disgusting images to represent angels and the glorious Jesus. Such things I saw were displeasing to God. I saw that God was in the publishment of the chart by Brother Nichols."—
“我看见,制作图表这件事全然错误。它起始于罗兹弟兄,后来又被凯斯弟兄沿袭下去。人们耗费钱财制作图表,并塑造粗鄙可憎的形像来代表天使和荣耀的耶稣。我看见,这样的事是上帝所不喜悦的。我看见,上帝在尼科尔斯弟兄所出版的图表之中。”——
Who was in the publishment of this 1850 Chart? God!
Ni nde wari mu gutunganya iyi Mbonerahamwe yo mu 1850? Imana!
—"I saw that there was"—what?—"a prophecy of this chart in the Bible, and if this chart is designed for God's people, if it [is] sufficient for one it is for another, and if one needed a new chart painted on a larger scale, all need it just as much.
—« J’ai vu qu’il y avait »—quoi ?—« une prophétie de ce tableau dans la Bible, et si ce tableau est destiné au peuple de Dieu, s’il [est] suffisant pour l’un, il l’est pour l’autre, et si l’un avait besoin qu’un nouveau tableau fût peint à une plus grande échelle, tous en ont tout autant besoin. »
"I saw that it was a restless, uneasy, unsatisfied, ungrateful feeling in Brother Case that desired another chart. I saw that these painted charts had a bad effect upon the congregation. It caused a light, chaffy spirit of ridicule to be in the meeting."—
„Ich sah, dass es bei Bruder Case ein ruheloses, unbehagliches, unzufriedenes, undankbares Empfinden war, das nach einer weiteren Tafel verlangte. Ich sah, dass diese gemalten Tafeln eine schlechte Wirkung auf die Gemeinde ausübten. Es bewirkte, dass ein leichtfertiger, oberflächlicher Geist des Spotts in der Versammlung vorhanden war.“—
Now, this is the one that I want you to think through.
Maintenant, c’est celui-ci que je veux que vous examiniez attentivement.
—"I saw that the charts ordered by God struck the mind favorably, even without an explanation."—
—« J’ai vu que les tableaux ordonnés par Dieu frappaient favorablement l’esprit, même sans explication. »—
"I saw that the charts," plural, "ordered by God . . . ." What charts, in the plural, were ordered by God? These two Charts [the 1843 and 1850 Charts] were ordered by God."
“I saw that the charts,” au pluriel, “ordered by God . . . .” Quels tableaux, au pluriel, furent ordonnés par Dieu? Ces deux tableaux [les tableaux de 1843 et de 1850] furent ordonnés par Dieu.
These two Charts are a fulfillment of Habakkuk 2.
Ces deux tableaux accomplissent Habacuc 2.
—"There is something light, lovely, and heavenly in the representation of the angels on the charts. The mind is almost imperceptibly led to God and heaven. But the other charts that have been gotten up disgust the mind, and cause the mind to dwell more on earth than heaven. Images representing angels look more like fiends than beings of heaven. I saw that the charts had for days and weeks occupied Brother Case's mind when he should have been seeking heavenly wisdom from God, and should have been growing in graces of the Spirit and the knowledge of the truth.
—“İdarələrdə mələklərin təsvirində yüngül, gözəl və səmavi bir xüsusiyyət vardır. Zehin, demək olar ki, hiss edilmədən, Allaha və göyə yönəldilir. Lakin hazırlanmış digər cədvəllər zehni iyrəndirir və onu göydən daha çox yer üzərində dayanmağa vadar edir. Mələkləri təsvir edən şəkillər göy varlıqlarından daha çox şeytani məxluqlara bənzəyir. Mən gördüm ki, bu cədvəllər günlərlə və həftələrlə Qardaş Keysin zehnini məşğul etmişdi; halbuki o, Allahdan səmavi hikmət axtarmalı, Ruhun lütflərində və həqiqət bilgisində inkişaf etməli idi.”
"I saw that if the means that has been wasted in getting out charts had been spent in getting out the truth clear before the brethren in publishing tracts, etc., it would have done much good and saved souls. I saw that the chart-making business has spread like the fever." Manuscript Releases, number 13, 359; 1853.
« J’ai vu que si les moyens qui ont été gaspillés pour faire paraître des tableaux avaient été employés à présenter clairement la vérité devant les frères par la publication de traités, etc., cela aurait fait beaucoup de bien et aurait sauvé des âmes. J’ai vu que l’affaire de la fabrication des tableaux s’est répandue comme une fièvre. » Manuscript Releases, no 13, 359; 1853.
The 1290 and 1335 Days
Les 1290 et 1335 jours
I have following an article from the Review and Herald, January 28, 1858. The reason I have it in your notes is because you can see that in 1858 they are still teaching that the Daily is Paganism. You have it in your reference, eight years after 1850 they still understand the Daily is Paganism.
我这里有一篇载于《Review and Herald》1858年1月28日的文章。我之所以把它放在你们的笔记中,是因为你们可以看出,到1858年他们仍然在教导“常献的祭”乃是异教。你们在自己的参考资料中已经有了这一点;在1850年之后八年,他们仍然认为“常献的祭”就是异教。
"ANOTHER important prophetic period upon which the Advent doctrine is based, is the 1335 days of Daniel 12, with which the 1290 days are so intimately connected. These two periods are introduced to us as follows:
“UN AUTRE intervalle prophétique important sur lequel repose la doctrine de l’Avent est celui des 1335 jours de Daniel 12, auxquels les 1290 jours sont si étroitement liés. Ces deux périodes nous sont présentées comme suit :”
"—And from the time that the daily (sacrifice) shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. Blessed is he that waiteth and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days. But go thou thy way till the end be; for thou shalt rest and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.' Daniel 12:11–13.
“—En vanaf die tyd dat die voortdurende (offer) afgeskaf en die gruwel wat verwoesting bring, opgerig word, sal daar duisend tweehonderd en negentig dae wees. Gelukkig is hy wat bly wag en kom tot by die duisend driehonderd vyf en dertig dae. Maar gaan jy jou weg tot die einde toe; want jy sal rus en aan die einde van die dae in jou bestemming staan.” Daniël 12:11–13.
"The questions at once arise, Can we tell what the events are, from which these periods are to be dated; and if so, can we tell when they took place? We first enquire. What is the—'daily' (sacrifice) and the —abomination that maketh desolate'? It will be noticed that the word, sacrifice, is in italics: denoting that it is a supplied word. The same will be noticed in the other instances of its occurrence in the book of Daniel, viz., chapter 11:31 and 8:11–13. Let us briefly refer to this latter chapter. In verse 13 it will be observed that two desolations are brought to view; the daily (desolation,) and the transgression of desolation. This fact is made so plain by Josiah Litch that we cannot do better than quote his language:*
I pirsig yirises dawal, Kan wi tell wa events da, fram wich these periods ar tu bi dated; an if sa, kan wi tell wen thay tuk pleis? Wi first enquire, Wat is tha—“daily” (sacrifice) an tha—abomination that maketh desolate’? It wil bi noticed that tha wird, sacrifice, is in italics: denoting that it is a supplied wird. Tha same wil bi noticed in tha other instances of its occurrence in tha buik o Daniel, viz., chapter 11:31 an 8:11–13. Let us briefly refer tu this latter chapter. In verse 13 it wil bi observed that two desolations ar brought tu view; tha daily (desolation,) an tha transgression of desolation. This fact is maid sa plain bi Josiah Litch that wi cannot du better than quote his language:*
"—The daily sacrifice is the present reading of the text; but no such thing as sacrifice is found in the original. This is acknowledged on all hands. It is a gloss or construction put upon it by the translators. The true reading is, "the daily and the transgression of desolation;" daily and transgression being connected together by "and" the daily desolation and the transgression of desolation. They are two desolating powers which were to desolate the Sanctuary and the host.'
—हरदिन का बलिदान पाठ की वर्तमान पठन-प्रणाली है; परन्तु मूल में बलिदान जैसी कोई बात नहीं पाई जाती। यह बात सब ओर से स्वीकार की जाती है। यह अनुवादकों द्वारा उस पर आरोपित एक टीका या व्याख्यात्मक रचना है। सही पाठ यह है, “नित्य और उजाड़ने वाले अपराध;” यहाँ “नित्य” और “अपराध” “और” के द्वारा परस्पर जुड़े हुए हैं—नित्य उजाड़ना और उजाड़ने वाला अपराध। ये दो उजाड़ने वाली शक्तियाँ हैं, जिन्हें पवित्रस्थान और सेना को उजाड़ना था।
"From this it is evident that the —daily,' can have no reference to the Jewish worship to which it has been applied by the older and more prevalent opinion; and this is further evident from the consideration that if these periods, taken either literally or figuratively, be dated from any taking away of this worship, they do not bring us to any event whatever worthy of note.
“De ce qui précède, il est évident que le « continuel » ne peut nullement se rapporter au culte juif auquel l’a appliqué l’opinion plus ancienne et la plus répandue; et cela ressort encore davantage de la considération que, si l’on fait partir ces périodes, prises soit littéralement soit figurativement, de quelque suppression de ce culte que ce soit, elles ne nous conduisent à aucun événement digne d’être remarqué. »
"The daily and the abomination then, are two desolating powers which were to oppress the church: can we ascertain what these powers are? We have only to adopt William Miller's method of reasoning on this point to arrive at the same conclusion with him. He says:
For the requested translation, I need to know what language “ff” refers to. Please specify the target language.
"—I read on, and could find no other case in which if [the daily] was found but in Daniel. I then [by the aid of a concordance] took those words which stood in connection with it, —take away;' —he shall take away the daily'; —from the time that the daily shall be taken away'; &c. I read on and thought I should find no light on the text. Finally I came to 2 Thessalonians 2:7, 8, —For the mystery of iniquity doth already work; only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way, and then shall that wicked be revealed.'&c. And when I had come to that text, O, how clear and glorious the truth appeared! There it is! That is —the daily!' Well, now, what does Paul mean by —he who now letteth' or hindereth? By —the Man of Sin,' and the —wicked,' Popery is meant. Well what is it which hinders Popery from being revealed? Why it is Paganism. Well, then, —the daily' must mean Paganism.'+
—ኣነ እናንበብኩ ቀጸልኩ፣ እንተ ኾነ ድማ [the daily] እንተ ተረኽበ ካልእ ጉዳይ ኣይረኸብኩን፣ ብዘይካ ኣብ ዳንኤል ጥራይ። ድሕሪኡ ድማ [ብሓገዝ ሓደ concordance] ምስኡ ዝተኣሳሰሩ እቶም ቃላት ወሰድኩ፣ —take away;’ —he shall take away the daily’; —from the time that the daily shall be taken away’; &c. እናንበብኩ ቀጸልኩ፣ ኣብቲ ጽሑፍ ብርሃን ከምዘይረክብ እሓስብ ነበርኩ። ኣብ መወዳእታ ግና ናብ 2 ተሰሎንቄ 2:7, 8 በጻሕኩ፣ —For the mystery of iniquity doth already work; only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way, and then shall that wicked be revealed.’ &c. ናብቲ ጽሑፍ ምስ በጻሕኩ ኸኣ፣ ኦ፣ እቲ ሓቂ ኽንደይ ግልጽን ኽቡርን ኮይኑ ተራእየ! ኣብዚኣ ኣሎ! እዚኣ እያ —the daily!’ ሕጂ ደኣ፣ ጳውሎስ ብ —he who now letteth’ ወይ ዚኽልክል እንታይ ማለቱ እዩ? ብ —the Man of Sin,’ እና —the wicked,’ ጳጳሳዊ ስርዓት እዩ ዝምልከት። እሞ ድማ ጳጳሳዊ ስርዓት ከይግለጽ ዚዕንቅፍ እንታይ እዩ? እወ፣ ንሱ ፓጋናዊነት እዩ። እምበኣር ድማ፣ —the daily’ ማለት ፓጋናዊነት እዩ።’+
"We see from Daniel 8, that it is the little horn, which succeeded the goat, or Grecian empire, that takes away the —daily;' and it is the only power brought to view after the division of Alexander's kingdom down to the time when the Sanctuary should be cleansed at the end of the 2300 days. This little horn we have in its proper place showed to be Rome taken as a unit, corresponding with the fourth kingdom of Daniel's other visions. Now it is a fact that a change did take place in the Roman power from Paganism to Papacy. Paganism from the days of the Assyrian kings down to the time of its modification into Popery, had been the daily, or as Professor Whiting renders it, —the continual' desolation, by which Satan had stood up against the cause of Jehovah. In its priests, its altars and its sacrifices, it bore resemblance to the Levitical form of Jehovah's worship; but when the Levitical gave place to the Christian form of worship, Satan, in order to successfully oppose the work, must change also his form of opposition; hence the temples, altars and statues of Paganism are baptized into the blasphemies of Popery.
我們從但以理書第8章看見,那承續公山羊、即希臘帝國而起的小角,除去了「常獻的」;而在亞歷山大國分裂之後,直到二千三百日終了、聖所應當潔淨的時候為止,所顯示出來的權勢,只有這一個。這小角,我們先前已在其適當的地位上證明,乃是作為一個整體而看的羅馬,與但以理其他異象中的第四國相對應。如今,有一件事實,就是羅馬權勢確曾由異教轉變為教皇制。異教自亞述諸王的日子起,直到其變形為羅馬教為止,一直就是那「常獻的」,或者如懷亭教授所譯的,「持續的」荒涼;藉此,撒但一向起來敵擋耶和華的事工。異教藉著其祭司、祭壇和祭物,帶有與耶和華利未體制敬拜相似的形態;但當利未體制讓位於基督教的敬拜形式時,撒但為要成功地抵擋這工作,也必須改變他對抗的形式;因此,異教的殿宇、祭壇和偶像,便受了洗而成為羅馬教褻瀆之事的一部分。
"But the daily, Paganism, is said in the prophecy, to have a sanctuary, and the place of its sanctuary was to be cast down. That a sanctuary is frequently connected with idolatry and heathenism, as the place of its devotion and worship, is evident from the following scriptures: Isaiah 16:12; Amos 7:9, 13, margin. Ezekiel 28:18. Concerning the sanctuary of the daily of Daniel 8, we offer the following from Apollos Hale:*
« Ma il est dit dans la prophétie que le quotidien, le paganisme, devait avoir un sanctuaire, et que le lieu de son sanctuaire devait être jeté à bas. Qu’un sanctuaire soit fréquemment associé à l’idolâtrie et au paganisme, comme le lieu de leur dévotion et de leur culte, cela ressort clairement des Écritures suivantes : Ésaïe 16:12 ; Amos 7:9, 13, marge. Ézéchiel 28:18. Concernant le sanctuaire du quotidien de Daniel 8, nous présentons ce qui suit d’Apollos Hale :* »
"—What can be meant by the —sanctuary' of Paganism? Paganism, and error of every kind, have their sanctuaries, as well as truth. These are the temples or asylums consecrated to their service. Some particular and renowned temple of Paganism may, then, be supposed to be here spoken of. Which of its numerous distinguished temples may it be? One of the most magnificent specimens of classic architecture is called the Pantheon. Its name signifies the —temple or asylum of all the gods.' The place of its location is Rome.+ The idols of the nations conquered by the Romans were sacredly deposited in some niche or department of this temple, and in many cases became objects of worship by the Romans themselves. Could we find a temple of Paganism that was more strikingly —his sanctuary.'"
«نحن منزهتواند از «مقدس» بتپرستی چه باشد؟ بتپرستی، و هرگونه خطا، همچون حقیقت، مقدسات خود را دارند. اینها معابد یا پناهگاههایی هستند که به خدمت آنها تخصیص یافتهاند. پس میتوان فرض کرد که در اینجا سخن از معبدی خاص و نامدار از بتپرستی است. کدامیک از معابد پرشمار و ممتاز آن میتواند باشد؟ یکی از باشکوهترین نمونههای معماری کلاسیک، پانتئون نام دارد. نام آن به معنای «معبد یا پناهگاه همه خدایان» است. جایگاه آن روم است.+ بتهای ملتهایی که به دست رومیان مغلوب شدند، با حرمت در یکی از طاقچهها یا بخشهای این معبد نهاده میشدند، و در بسیاری موارد خود به وسیله رومیان نیز موضوع پرستش میگشتند. آیا میتوانستیم معبدی از بتپرستی بیابیم که بهنحوی برجستهتر «مقدس او» باشد؟»
"Having now ascertained that the daily is Paganism, and the transgression of desolation, or —the abomination that maketh desolate,' is the Papacy, and that the especial sanctuary of Paganism was the Pantheon, and that the —place' of its location was Rome, we inquire further.
“Bwana, baada ya sasa kuthibitisha kwamba kila siku ni Upagani, na lile kosa la uharibifu, au—‘chukizo lile lifanyalo ukiwa,’ ni Upapa, na kwamba patakatifu maalumu pa Upagani palikuwa Pantheon, na kwamba ‘mahali’ pa kuwepo kwake palikuwa Roma, tunaendelea kuuliza zaidi.
"1. Was Paganism —taken away' by the Roman civil power? The following statement of an important and well-known fact in the history of the church and world, we think answers to the prophecy. It refers to Constantine the first Christian emperor, and says:
«1. Le paganisme fut-il “ôté” par le pouvoir civil romain ? L’énoncé suivant d’un fait important et bien connu de l’histoire de l’Église et du monde, pensons-nous, répond à la prophétie. Il se rapporte à Constantin, le premier empereur chrétien, et dit :»
"—His first act of government was the dispatch of an edict throughout the empire, exhorting his subjects to embrace Christianity.'++
— የመጀመሪያው የመንግሥት እርምጃው በመላው ኢምፓየሩ ውስጥ አዋጅ ማስተላለፍ ነበር፤ በዚህም ሕዝቦቹ ክርስትናን እንዲቀበሉ ይጠይቃቸው ነበር።'++
"2. Was Rome the city or place of his sanctuary, (the Pantheon,) cast down by the authority of the State? The following extract answers:
«2. Rome était-elle la ville ou le lieu de son sanctuaire, (le Panthéon,) abattu par l’autorité de l’État? L’extrait suivant répond: »
"—The death of the last rival of Constantine had sealed the peace of the empire. Rome was once more the undisputed queen of nations. But, in that hour of elevation and splendor, she had been raised to the edge of a precipice. Her next step was to be downward and irrecoverable. The change of the government to Constantinople still perplexes the historian. It was an act in direct repugnance to the whole course of the ancient and honorable prejudices of the Roman mind. It was the work of no luxurious Asiatic, devoted to the indulgences of eastern customs and climates, but an iron conqueror, born in the west, and contemptuous, like all Romans, of the habits of the orientals; it was the work of a keen politician, yet it was impolitic in the most palpable degree. Yet Constantine abandoned Rome, the great citadel and throne of the Caesars, for an obscure corner of Thrace, and expended the remainder of his vigorous and ambitious life in the double toil of raising a colony into the capital of his empire, and degrading the capital into the feeble honors and humiliated strength of a colony.'*
„—Последњег Константиновог супарника смрт је уклонила, и мир царства тиме је био запечаћен. Рим је још једном био неоспорна царица народа. Али, у том часу узвишења и сјаја, био је уздигнут до саме ивице провалије. Његов следећи корак требало је да буде надоле и неповратан. Премештање седишта владе у Константинопољ и даље збуњује историчара. То је био чин у непосредној супротности са целокупним током древних и часних предрасуда римског духа. То није било дело каквог раскошног Азијата, оданог уживањима источњачких обичаја и поднебља, него гвозденог освајача, рођеног на западу и, као и сви Римљани, презривог према навикама источњака; било је то дело проницљивог политичара, па ипак у најочигледнијој мери неполитично. Ипак, Константин је напустио Рим, велику тврђаву и престо ћесара, ради једног неугледног кутка Тракије, и утрошио остатак свога снажног и славољубивог живота у двоструком труду: да уздигне једну колонију у престоницу свога царства, а престоницу понизи на слабе почасти и унижену снагу колоније.“*
"This record from the pen of the historian is too plain to need comment. The place of his sanctuary was cast down, says the prophecy; and after a statement of facts like the above, the most fastidious in prophetic interpretation must be satisfied of its application.
« Ce témoignage, issu de la plume de l’historien, est trop clair pour nécessiter un commentaire. Le lieu de son sanctuaire a été renversé, dit la prophétie ; et après un exposé des faits tel que celui qui précède, même les plus exigeants en matière d’interprétation prophétique doivent être satisfaits de son application. »
"From the time that the daily shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. Blessed is he that waiteth and cometh to the thousand three hundred five and thirty days. With the facts before us that the daily is Paganism, that the abomination that maketh desolate is the Papacy, that there was a change from the former to the latter in the Roman power, and by the authority of State we have but to inquire further when this took place in a manner to fulfill the prophecy; for if we can ascertain this, we have the starting point from which the prophetic periods in the text before us are to be dated. Therefore,
«منذ الوقت الذي تُرفَع فيه الذبيحة الدائمة، ويُقام رجس الخراب، تكون ألفًا ومئتين وتسعين يومًا. طوبى لمن ينتظر ويبلغ إلى الألف والثلاثمئة والخمسة والثلاثين يومًا». وبالنظر إلى الحقائق القائمة أمامنا: أن «الدائمة» هي الوثنية، وأن «رجس الخراب» هو البابوية، وأنه قد وقع انتقال في السلطان الروماني من الأولى إلى الثانية، وبسلطان الدولة، فما علينا إلا أن نتحرّى أيضًا متى حدث ذلك على وجه يحقق النبوة؛ لأنه إن استطعنا أن نتحقق من ذلك، كان لدينا نقطة البدء التي منها ينبغي أن تُؤرَّخ الأزمنة النبوية الواردة في النص الذي أمامنا. لذلك،
"3. When did the event referred to in the prophecy take place? Let it be observed, the question is not, when were the saints given into the hands of the Papacy, but when had the change of religion from Paganism to Papacy been so far effected as to make the latter the national religion, and place it in a condition to start upon its career. This, like all other great revolutions, was not the work of a moment. Its incipient workings were manifest long before. Paul said that even in his day the mystery of iniquity, the Man of Sin, the —abomination that maketh desolate,' was already at work. And it is in the light of this scripture that we must understand our Lord's words in Mathew 24:15, concerning the abomination of desolation, where he makes evident reference to Daniel 9:27. For although Paganism had not given place to the Papacy in the year 70 when Jerusalem was destroyed by the Romans we do understand that the power which then appeared modified somewhat in name and form, was the very power that should, as the abomination of desolation, wear out the saints and desolate the church of the Most High.
"3. Tapli daytoy a pasamak a naibaga iti padto? Masapul a mapaliiw, ti saludsod ket saan a, kaano a naited dagiti santo iti ima ti Pápasia, no di ket kaano a ti pannakasukisok ti relihion manipud iti Paganismo agingga iti Pápasia ket nakadanon iti kasta a kasasaad a ti maudi ket nagbalin a nasyonal a relihion, ken naisaad iti kasasaad a mangrugi iti panagbiagna. Daytoy, a kas kadagiti amin a dadakkel a rebolusion, saan a trabaho ti maysa a kanito. Ti umuna a panagtrabahona ket makita unay idi adu pay a nauna. Kinuna ni Pablo a uray idi tiempo na, ti palimed ti kinadakes, ti Tao ti Basol, ti “karibukan a mangaramid iti pannakadadael,” ket agtrabtrabahoen. Ket iti lawag daytoy a Surat a masapul a maawatan tayo dagiti sasao ti Apotayo idiay Mateo 24:15, maipanggep iti karibukan ti pannakadadael, a iti dayta ket nalawag nga itudo na ni Daniel 9:27. Ta uray no ti Paganismo ket saan pay a naikkat iti Pápasia idi tawen a 70 idi a nadadael ti Jerusalem babaen kadagiti Romano, maawatantayo a ti pannakabalin a nagparang idiay, uray no nabaliwan iti bassit iti nagan ken porma, ket isu met laeng ti pannakabalin a masapul a kas ti karibukan ti pannakadadael, pakapuyennanto dagiti santo ken dadaelennanto ti iglesia ti Kangatuan-unay."
"Up to the time of the conversion of Clovis, king of France, which took place in 496, the French and other nations of western Rome were Pagan; but subsequent to that event the efforts to convert idolaters to Christ were crowned with great success. It is said that the conversion of Clovis gave rise to the custom of addressing the French monarch with the titles of Most Christian Majesty and Eldest Son of the Church.+ Between that time and A.D. 508 by "alliances," "capitulations" and conquests, "the Avborici," the "Roman garrisons in the west," Brittany, the Burgundians and the Visigoths, were brought into subjection.'++
« Jusqu’à l’époque de la conversion de Clovis, roi de France, laquelle eut lieu en 496, les Français et les autres nations de la Rome occidentale étaient païens ; mais, à la suite de cet événement, les efforts entrepris pour convertir les idolâtres à Christ furent couronnés d’un grand succès. On dit que la conversion de Clovis donna naissance à l’usage de s’adresser au monarque français sous les titres de Très Chrétienne Majesté et de Fils aîné de l’Église.+ Entre ce temps-là et l’an 508 apr. J.-C., par des « alliances », des « capitulations » et des conquêtes, « les Avborici », les « garnisons romaines dans l’ouest », la Bretagne, les Burgondes et les Wisigoths furent amenés dans la sujétion. »++
"—Paganism in the western Roman Empire, though it doubtless retarded the progress of the Christian faith, especially in those nations which were molested, as in the case of England, by the inroads of the barbarous clans, who continued idolaters, henceforth had not the power, if it had the disposition to suppress the Catholic faith, or to hinder the encroachments of the Roman Pontiff.
—Dans l’Empire romain d’Occident, le paganisme, bien qu’il ait sans aucun doute retardé les progrès de la foi chrétienne, surtout parmi les nations qui furent inquiétées, comme dans le cas de l’Angleterre, par les incursions des clans barbares qui demeuraient idolâtres, n’avait désormais plus le pouvoir, quand bien même il en eût eu la volonté, de supprimer la foi catholique, ni d’empêcher les empiétements du Pontife romain.
"From that time, the Papal abomination was triumphant, so far as Paganism was concerned. Its future contests were with the other Christian sects, who were always treated as heretics; and with princes who were always treated as rebels or dividers of the body of Christ. The prominent powers of Europe gave up their attachment to Paganism only to perpetuate its abominations in another form; for Paganism needed only to be baptized to become Christian in the Catholic sense; and when the interests or vengeance of its presiding minister made the demand, their possessions and thrones,—perhaps their lives,—must be laid on the altar. SS
Ooo ka sa panahon didto, ang Papa nga dulomtanan maoy nagmadaogon, kutob sa kalabotan sa Paganismo. Ang iyang umaabot nga mga pakigbisog uban na sa ubang mga pundok Kristohanon, nga kanunayng giisip nga mga erehe; ug uban sa mga principe, nga kanunayng giisip nga mga rebelde o mga magbabahin sa lawas ni Cristo. Ang mga bantugang gahom sa Uropa mibiya sa ilang pagdikit sa Paganismo aron lamang mapadayon ang mga dulomtanan niini sa laing dagway; kay ang Paganismo nanginahanglan lamang nga bautismohan aron mahimong Kristohanon sa Katolikong kahulogan; ug sa dihang ang mga interes o panimalos sa ministro nga nangulo niini maoy mangayo niana, ang ilang mga kabtangan ug mga trono,—tingali ang ilang mga kinabuhi,—kinahanglang ibutang sa halaran. SS
"* Prophetic Exposition, Volume 1, 127.
* Exposé prophétique, volume 1, 127.
"+ Goodrich's Universal Hist. and Gutherie's Geog.'
+ Historia Universal de Goodrich y Geografía de Gutherie.
"+ Mosheim Christian History, Volume 1, 132, 133.
+ Mosheim Christian History, Jildi 1, 132, 133.
"In England, Arthur, the first Christian king, founded the Christian worship on the ruins of the Pagan.* Rapin, who claims to be more exact in the chronology of events in his history, states that he was elected monarch of Britain in 508. Book 2, 129.
En Angleterre, Arthur, le premier roi chrétien, établit le culte chrétien sur les ruines du paganisme.* Rapin, qui prétend être plus exact dans la chronologie des événements de son histoire, déclare qu’il fut élu monarque de Bretagne en 508. Livre 2, 129.
"What was the condition of the See of Rome at this time? —Symmachus was Pope from 498 or 9 to 514. His pontificate was distinguished by these remarkable circumstances and events:
« À cette époque, dans quel état se trouvait le Siège de Rome ? — Symmaque fut pape de 498 ou 499 à 514. Son pontificat se distingua par les circonstances et les événements remarquables suivants : »
"1. He —left Paganism' when he entered the —church of Rome.'
«1. Il —quitta le paganisme» lorsqu’il entra dans l’—Église de Rome.»
"2. He found his way to the Papal chair by striving with his competitor even unto blood. Du Pin.
«2. Il parvint au siège papal en luttant contre son rival jusqu’au sang. Du Pin. »
"3. By the adulation paid to him as the successor of St. Peter.
« 3. Par l’adulation qui lui est rendue comme au successeur de saint Pierre. »
"4. By the excommunication of the Emperor Anastasius.+
« 4. Par l’excommunication de l’empereur Anastase. »
"—How much,' says Mosheim, —the opinions of some were favorable to the lordly demands of the Roman Pontiffs, may be easily imagined from an expression of Ennodius, that infamous and extravagant flatterer of Symmachus, who was a prelate of ambiguous fame. This parasitical panegyrist, among other impertinent assertions maintained that the Pontiff was constituted judge in the place of God, which he filled as the Vicegerent of the Most High.'++
«أمّا إلى أيّ حدٍّ كانت آراء بعضهم مؤاتية للمطالب الاستعلائيّة لأحبار روما،» يقول موشهايم، «فيمكن تصوّره بسهولة من عبارةٍ لأنّوديوس، ذلك المتملّق المشين والمفرِط لسمّاخوس، الذي كان أسقفًا ذائعَ الصيت على نحوٍ ملتبس. فهذا المادح الطفيليّ، من بين مزاعم أخرى سخيفة، ذهب إلى أنّ الحبر قد أُقيم قاضيًا في موضع الله، الذي كان يشغله بوصفه نائبَ العليّ.»++
"By the strength secured to the Catholic cause in the west, by these successes, and the agency of the vicars, and other agents of the See of Rome, the Papal party in Constantinople were —placed' in a position to justify open hostilities in behalf of their master at Rome. In 508 the whirlwind of fanaticism and civil war swept in fire and blood through the streets of the eastern capital.'
Na nguvu iliyopatikana kwa sababu ya Kikatoliki katika upande wa magharibi, kwa mafanikio haya, na kwa utendaji wa mawakili wakuu, na mawakala wengine wa Kiti cha Roma, chama cha Kipapa huko Konstantinopoli kiliwekwa katika nafasi ya kuhalalisha uhasama wa wazi kwa niaba ya bwana wao huko Roma. Mwaka 508 kisulisuli cha ushupavu wa kidini na vita vya wenyewe kwa wenyewe kilipita kwa moto na damu katika njia za mji mkuu wa mashariki.
"Gibbon, under the years 508–514, speaking of the commotions in Constantinople, says —The statues of the emperor were broken, and his person was concealed in a suburb, till, at the end of three days, he dared to implore the mercy of his subjects. [Popery is triumphant.] Without his diadem, and in the posture of a suppliant, Anastasius appeared on the throne of the circus. The Catholics, before his face, rehearsed the genuine Trisagion; they exulted in the offer which he proclaimed by the voice of a herald, of abdicating the purple; they listened to the admonition, that, since all could not reign, they should previously agree in the choice of a sovereign; and they accepted the blood of two unpopular ministers, whom their master, without hesitation, condemned to the lions. These furious but transient seditions were encouraged by the success of Vitalian, who with his army of Huns and Bulgarians, for the most part idolaters, declared himself the champion of the Catholic faith. In this pious rebellion he depopulated Thrace, besieged Constantinople, exterminated sixty-five thousand of his fellow Christians, till he obtained the recall of the bishops, the satisfaction of the Pope, and the establishment of the council of Chalcedon, an orthodox treaty, reluctantly signed by the dying Anastasius, and more faithfully performed by the uncle of Justinian. And such was the event of the first of the religious wars which have been waged in the name, and by the disciples, of the God of Peace." SS
ဂိဘွန်သည် ခရစ်နှစ် ၅၀၈–၅၁၄ အောက်၌ ကွန်စတန်တီနိုပယ်မြို့ရှိ အရေးအခင်းများကို ရည်ညွှန်း၍ ဤသို့ ဆိုထားသည် — “ဘုရင်၏ ရုပ်တုများကို ချိုးဖျက်ခဲ့ကြပြီး၊ သုံးရက်ကုန်ဆုံးချိန်အထိ သူ၏ ကိုယ်ကို မြို့နယ်ပြင်တစ်ခု၌ ဝှက်ကွယ်ထားရလေသည်။ ထို့နောက်မှသာ သူသည် မိမိ၏ ပြည်သူတို့၏ ကရုဏာကို တောင်းပန်ရန် သတ္တိပြုနိုင်ခဲ့သည်။ [ပုပ်ရဟန်းဝါဒသည် အောင်ပွဲခံနေသည်။] မိမိ၏ မင်း冠မပါဘဲ၊ အသနားခံသူ၏ အနေအထားဖြင့် အနာစတာစီယုစ်သည် ပြဇာတ်ကွင်း၏ ရာဇပလ္လင်ပေါ်တွင် ပေါ်ထွက်လာခဲ့သည်။ ကက်သလစ်များသည် သူ၏ မျက်နှာရှေ့၌ စစ်မှန်သော Trisagion ကို ပြန်လည်ရွတ်ဆိုကြသည်။ တော်ဝင်အဝတ်အစားကို စွန့်လွှတ်မည်ဟု သံတော်ဆင့်တစ်ဦး၏ အသံဖြင့် သူကြေညာသော ကမ်းလှမ်းချက်အတွက် သူတို့သည် ဝမ်းမြောက်အောင်မြင်ကြသည်။ လူအားလုံး မင်းမဖြစ်နိုင်သောကြောင့် အချုပ်အခြာအာဏာရှင်တစ်ဦးကို ရွေးချယ်ရာ၌ အရင်ဆုံး သဘောတူညီကြရမည်ဟူသော သတိပေးချက်ကို သူတို့ နားထောင်ကြသည်။ ထို့ပြင် မိမိတို့ မနှစ်သက်သော ဝန်ကြီးနှစ်ဦး၏ သွေးကိုလည်း လက်ခံကြသည်။ ထိုဝန်ကြီးနှစ်ဦးကို သူတို့၏ အရှင်သည် တုံ့ဆိုင်းခြင်းမရှိဘဲ ခြင်္သေ့များထံ အပြစ်ဒဏ်ချမှတ်ခဲ့သည်။ ဤအမျက်ထန်သော်လည်း ခဏတာသာ ဖြစ်ပွားသော အုံကြွမှုများသည် ဗီတာလီယန်၏ အောင်မြင်မှုကြောင့် အားပေးခံခဲ့ရသည်။ သူသည် ဟွန်များနှင့် ဘူလ်ဂေးရီးယန်းများပါဝင်သော မိမိ၏ စစ်တပ်နှင့်အတူ၊ အများစုမှာ ရုပ်ပုံကိုးကွယ်သူများဖြစ်ကြသော်လည်း၊ မိမိကိုယ်ကို ကက်သလစ် ယုံကြည်ခြင်း၏ ကာကွယ်သူဟု ကြေညာခဲ့သည်။ ဤဘုရားကြည်ညိုဟန်ရှိသော ပုန်ကန်မှုအတွင်း သူသည် သ్రေးစီးကြောင်းထဲတွင် ထရေးစ်ကို လူသူကင်းမဲ့စေခဲ့ပြီး၊ ကွန်စတန်တီနိုပယ်ကို ဝိုင်းပတ်တိုက်ခိုက်ကာ၊ ခရစ်ယာန်အချင်းချင်း ခြောက်သောင်းငါးထောင်ကို သုတ်သင်ဖျက်ဆီးခဲ့သည်။ နောက်ဆုံးတွင် သူသည် ဘိရှော့များကို ပြန်လည်ခေါ်ယူစေခြင်း၊ ပုပ်ရဟန်းမင်း၏ ကျေနပ်မှုကို ရရှိစေခြင်း၊ ချယ်လ်စီဒွန် အစည်းအဝေး၏ အတည်ပြုခြင်းကို တည်ထောင်စေခြင်းတို့ကို ရရှိခဲ့သည်။ ယင်းမှာ သာသနာမှန်ဝါဒီဆိုင်ရာ သဘောတူစာချုပ်တစ်ရပ်ဖြစ်ပြီး၊ သေမင်းနီးကပ်လာသော အနာစတာစီယုစ်က မလိုလားဘဲ လက်မှတ်ရေးထိုးခဲ့ရကာ၊ ယုစတီနီယန်၏ ဦးရီးတော်က ပိုမိုသစ္စာရှိစွာ အကောင်အထည်ဖော်ခဲ့သည်။ ထိုသို့ပင် ငြိမ်းချမ်းရေး၏ ဘုရားသခင်၏ နာမတော်ဖြင့်လည်းကောင်း၊ ကိုယ်တော်၏ တပည့်များကလည်းကောင်း ဆင်နွှဲခဲ့ကြသော ဘာသာရေးစစ်ပွဲများအနက် ပထမဆုံးစစ်ပွဲ၏ အကျိုးဆက်သည် ထိုသို့ ဖြစ်ခဲ့လေသည်။” SS
"With the following extract from Appollos Hale, we close the testimony on this point: —We now invite our modern Gamaliels to take a position with us in the place of the sanctuary of Paganism (since claimed as the "patrimony of St. Peter") in 508. We look a few years into the past, and the rude Paganism of the northern barbarians is pouring down upon the nominally Christian empire of Western Rome—triumphing everywhere—and its triumphs everywhere distinguished by the most savage cruelty. . . . The empire falls and is broken into fragments. One by one the lords and rulers of these fragments, abandon their Paganism and profess the Christian faith. In religion the conquerors are yielding to the conquered. But still Paganism is triumphant. Among its supporters there is one stern and successful conqueror. (Clovis.) But soon he also bows before the power of the new faith and becomes its champion. He is still triumphant, but, as a hero and conqueror, reaches the zenith at the point we occupy, A.D. 508.
«Қуйидаги Апполлос Хейлдан олинган иқтибос билан биз ушбу нуқта бўйича гувоҳликни якунлаймиз: — Энди биз замонавий Гамалиелларимизни 508 йилда бутпарастлик муқаддас жойи ўрнида (ҳозир “Санкт Пётрнинг мероси” деб даъво қилинаётган жойда) биз билан бирга мавқе эгаллашга чақирамиз. Биз бир неча йил орқага назар ташлаймиз, ва шимолий варварларнинг қўпол бутпарастлиги номигагина насроний бўлган Ғарбий Рим империяси устига ёғилиб тушмоқда — ҳамма жойда ғалаба қилмоқда — ва унинг ғалабалари ҳар ерда энг ваҳшиёна шафқатсизлик билан ажралиб турмоқда. . . . Империя қулади ва парчаланиб кетди. Ана шу парчаларнинг ҳукмдор ва бошлиқлари бирин-кетин ўз бутпарастликларидан воз кечиб, насроний эътиқодини қабул қиладилар. Дин соҳасида забткорлар мағлуб этилганларга ён бермоқдалар. Аммо бутпарастлик ҳануз ғолибдир. Унинг тарафдорлари орасида бир қатъиятли ва муваффақиятли забткор бор. (Хлодвиг.) Аммо тез орада у ҳам янги эътиқод қудрати олдида бош эгади ва унинг ҳомийсига айланади. У ҳануз ғолибдир, аммо қаҳрамон ва забткор сифатида айнан биз турган нуқтада, милодий 508 йилда, ўзининг энг юксак чўққисига етади.»
"—In or near the same year, the last important subdivision of the fallen empire is publicly, and by the coronation of its triumphant —monarch' Christianized.
—En cette même année, ou vers elle, la dernière importante subdivision de l’empire déchu est publiquement christianisée par le couronnement de son « monarque » triomphant.
"—The pontiff for the period on which we stand is a recently converted Pagan. The bloody contest which placed him in the chair was decided by the interposition of an Arian king. He is bowed to and saluted as filling —the place of God on earth.' The senate is so far under his power, that, on suspicion that the interests of the See of Rome demand it, they excommunicate the emperor. . . . In 508 the mine is sprung beneath the throne of the Eastern Empire. The result of the confusion and strife it occasions is the humiliation of its rightful lord. Now the question is, at what time was Paganism so far suppressed, as to make room for its substitute and successor, the Papal abomination? When was this abomination placed in a position to start on its career of blasphemy and blood? Is there any other date for its being "placed," or "set up" in the room of Paganism, but 508? If the mysterious enchantress has not now brought all her victims within her power, she has taken her position, and some have yielded to the fascination.
“—દૂર જે સમયખંડ પર આપણે ઊભા છીએ, તે સમયનો પોન્ટિફ તાજેતરમાં ધર્મપરિવર્તિત થયેલો એક મૂર્તિપૂજક છે. તેને ગાદી પર બેસાડનાર રક્તરંજિત સંઘર્ષનો નિર્ણય એક એરિયન રાજાના હસ્તક્ષેપથી થયો હતો. તેને નમન કરવામાં આવે છે અને અભિવાદન કરવામાં આવે છે કે તે ‘પૃથ્વી પર ઈશ્વરના સ્થાને’ ભરેલો છે.’ સેનેટ તેના સત્તા હેઠળ એટલી હદ સુધી છે કે, જો રોમના સીના હિતો તેની માંગ કરે છે એવી શંકા પણ થાય, તો તેઓ સમ્રાટને બહિષ્કૃત કરે છે. . . . ઈ.સ. 508માં પૂર્વીય સામ્રાજ્યના સિંહાસન નીચે ખાણ ફોડી દેવામાં આવે છે. તેનાથી ઉદ્ભવતી ગૂંચવણ અને કલહનું પરિણામ તેના અધિકારપ્રાપ્ત સ્વામીનું અપમાન છે. હવે પ્રશ્ન એ છે કે, કયા સમયે મૂર્તિપૂજકતા એટલી હદ સુધી દબાવવામાં આવી કે તેના સ્થાને તેના વિકલ્પ અને ઉત્તરાધિકારી, પાપસીની ઘૃણાસ્પદ અશુદ્ધિ, માટે જગ્યા બની? આ ઘૃણાસ્પદ અશુદ્ધિને ક્યારે એવી સ્થિતિમાં મૂકવામાં આવી કે તે પોતાના નિંદા અને રક્તપાતના પ્રવાહ પર આગળ વધી શકે? મૂર્તિપૂજકતાના સ્થાને તેને “મૂકવામાં,” અથવા “સ્થાપવામાં,” આવવા માટે 508 સિવાય બીજી કોઈ તારીખ છે શું? જો આ રહસ્યમય મોહિનીએ હજી સુધી પોતાના બધા ભોગોને પોતાની સત્તામાં લાવ્યાં નથી, તો પણ તેણે પોતાનું સ્થાન તો લઈ લીધું છે, અને કેટલાક તેની મોહમાયાને શરણ થયા છે.”
"The others are at length subdued, —and kings, and peoples and multitudes, and nations, and tongues,' are brought under the spell which prepares them, even while —drunken with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus,' to —think they are doing God service,' and to fancy themselves the exclusive favorites of heaven, while becoming an easier and richer prey for the damnation of hell'*
"Les autres sont enfin subjugués, —et des rois, et des peuples, et des foules, et des nations, et des langues,' sont amenés sous le charme qui les prépare, alors même que, —ivres du sang des martyrs de Jésus,' ils en viennent à —croire qu’ils rendent un culte à Dieu,' et à s’imaginer les favoris exclusifs du ciel, tandis qu’ils deviennent une proie plus facile et plus riche pour la damnation de l’enfer'*"
"We have the date. The —daily' was taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up in 508. Dating from this point the 1290 days or years terminate in 1798 where, as has already been shown, the civil power was stricken from the Pope by the arm of Buonaparte. The 1335 days bring us 45 full years this side of that event.
„Nous avons la date. Le « sacrifice perpétuel » a été ôté, et l’abomination qui cause la désolation établie en 508. À partir de ce point, les 1290 jours ou années se terminent en 1798, où, comme on l’a déjà montré, le pouvoir civil fut arraché au Pape par le bras de Buonaparte. Les 1335 jours nous conduisent 45 années entières au-delà de cet événement. »
"But some may say, How is it that you make the periods terminate in the past? Does it not read that Daniel should rest and stand in his lot at the end of the days? Certainly; and we believe it. But what is it for Daniel to stand in his lot? This point will come under consideration when we come to an explanation of the passing of the time, and an examination of the events that did take place at the end of the days. Meanwhile we here cast anchor till another week." Review and Herald, January 28, 1858.
“Но некоторые могут сказать: как же это вы делаете так, что периоды оканчиваются в прошлом? Разве не сказано, что Даниил упокоится и восстанет для получения своего удела в конце дней? Несомненно; и мы верим этому. Но что значит для Даниила восстать для получения своего удела? Этот вопрос будет рассмотрен тогда, когда мы приступим к объяснению истечения времени и к исследованию событий, которые действительно произошли в конце дней. Между тем здесь мы бросаем якорь до следующей недели”. Review and Herald, January 28, 1858.
Errors and Dangers of Prescott and Daniells; The Cities to Be Worked
Прескотт ва Даниэллснинг хатолари ва хавф-хатарлари; Шаҳарларда олиб борилиши лозим бўлган иш
(A. G. Daniells was elected president of the General Conference in 1901. This suggests that this document was written in 1910, a time when Mrs. White was very concerned about Daniells' neglect of the cities and his involvement in the controversy over the "Daily.")
(A. G. Daniells a été élu président de la Conférence générale en 1901. Cela laisse entendre que ce document a été rédigé en 1910, à une époque où Mme White était très préoccupée par la négligence de Daniells à l’égard des villes et par son implication dans la controverse au sujet du « Daily ».)
Now, recently Steve Wohlberg was saying that he does not have to take a position on the Daily because Ellen White never had a position on the Daily, and if it is good enough for the prophetess to take that position, it is good enough for him.
Sasa, hivi karibuni Steve Wohlberg alikuwa akisema kwamba hahitaji kuchukua msimamo kuhusu “the Daily” kwa sababu Ellen White hakuwahi kuwa na msimamo kuhusu “the Daily,” na ikiwa inamtosha nabii wa kike kuchukua msimamo huo, basi inamtosha yeye pia.
Well, Ellen White did have a position on the Daily. She said the Millerites had the correct view of it, and she understood it was Paganism. She understood that when Paganism was taken away, the 1335 began; and, she understood that other views than that only produced darkness and confusion.
Mu vyo ukuri, Ellen White yari afise ico yavuze ku bijanye n’Ibitambo vya buri musi. Yavuze ko aba-Millerite bari bafise ukuntu kubibona kw’ukuri, kandi yaratahura ko vyari Ubuganwa. Yaratahura ko igihe Ubuganwa bwakurwaho, ari ho vya 1335 vyatangura; kandi yaratahura ko ibindi vyiyumviro bitari ivyo ataco vyama bivuyemwo atari umwiza n’urujijo.
And the one that you can demonstrate from the history of 1850 that was really isolated as bringing darkness and confusion is Crosier's view that the Daily represented Christ's Sanctuary ministry; so, I think she had an understanding what the Daily was, not only what it was but what it represented because, if you left that position, you go into darkness and confusion.
Le seul point que l’on puisse démontrer, à partir de l’histoire de 1850, comme ayant véritablement été isolé pour apporter les ténèbres et la confusion, est la conception de Crosier selon laquelle le « Daily » représentait le ministère de Christ dans le Sanctuaire ; ainsi, je pense qu’elle comprenait ce qu’était le « Daily », non seulement ce qu’il était, mais aussi ce qu’il représentait, parce que, si l’on abandonnait cette position, on entrait dans les ténèbres et la confusion.
But, in 1910 Ellen White also rebuked the General Conference President and W. W. Prescott for pushing this same view as Crosier's.
Mais, en 1910, Ellen White réprimanda aussi le président de la Conférence générale et W. W. Prescott pour avoir soutenu cette même position que celle de Crosier.
And no historian is going to argue that Prescott and Willie White and A. G. Daniells, that when they were pushing the Daily, they were pushing the idea that the Daily represented Christ's Sanctuary ministry. Everyone knows that.
Zyadɛnyi na-mɩa kpa be Prescott kple Willie White kple A. G. Daniells, esime wole Daily la ƒe susu dzi yina la, mewɔna nu be wole ŋuɖoɖo la ɖe edzi o, be Daily la nɔ Kristotɔ ƒe dɔ wɔwɔ le Kɔkɔeƒe la me fiam. Ame sia ame nya esia.
But, you have got the entire article here from Manuscript Releases, volume 20.
Lakini, hapa una makala yote kamili kutoka *Manuscript Releases*, juzuu ya 20.
When was this released? Well, it was released in 1988; so, it is available for students of Adventism to consider in 1988.
它是在什么时候发行的呢?它是在1988年发行的;因此,1988年的复临信徒研究者可以对其加以考察。
When did Willie White and Prescott and Daniells establish the false view of the Daily in Adventism? From 1919 to 1931 is when they accomplished their work. By 1931, forget about it!! Adventism is going to teach that the Daily represents Christ's Sanctuary ministry because they have accepted the interpretation of the Scriptures that comes from apostate Protestantism and Catholicism. And from this point on, the Daily is identified as Christ's Sanctuary ministry.
Wakati gani Willie White na Prescott na Daniells walianzisha mtazamo wa uongo kuhusu “Daily” katika Uadventista? Ni kuanzia 1919 hadi 1931 walipokamilisha kazi yao. Kufikia 1931, sahau kabisa!! Uadventista utafundisha kwamba “Daily” inawakilisha huduma ya Kristo katika Patakatifu pake kwa sababu wamekubali tafsiri ya Maandiko inayotoka kwa Uprotestanti ulioasi na Ukatoliki. Na tangu hatua hii na kuendelea, “Daily” hutambulishwa kuwa ni huduma ya Kristo katika Patakatifu.
Awe, there are some voices that are opposing this that know better, but the tide has totally turned from that point on.
Hélas, certaines voix s’y opposent qui devraient pourtant mieux savoir, mais à partir de ce moment-là la marée a complètement tourné.
And then in 1988, the Ellen White Estate releases for us this statement from 1910 at the very time the Daily was being agitated by Prescott, Daniells, and Willie White.
ثم في عام 1988، أصدرت لنا مؤسسة إلن وايت هذا التصريح الصادر من عام 1910، في الوقت ذاته تمامًا الذي كانت فيه مسألة «اليومية» موضع إثارة وجدال من قِبَل بريسكوت، ودانييلز، وويلي وايت.
"At this stage of our experience we are not to have our minds drawn away from the special light given [us] to consider at the important gathering of our conference. And there was Brother Daniells, whose mind the enemy was working;"
“No kona e māhele o ko kākou ʻike ʻana, ʻaʻole pono e huki ʻia ko kākou naʻau i kahi ʻē aʻe, a haʻalele i ka mālamalama kūikawā i hāʻawi ʻia mai [iā kākou] e noʻonoʻo ai ma ka hālāwai koʻikoʻi o ko kākou ʻaha kūkā. A ma laila ʻo Brother Daniells, ka mea nona ka manaʻo e hana ʻia ana e ka ʻenemi;”
What does that mean? What does it mean that the enemy is working your mind? It means the Holy Spirit is not working your mind.
Que signifie cela ? Que signifie que l’ennemi agit sur votre esprit ? Cela signifie que le Saint-Esprit n’agit pas sur votre esprit.
"...and your mind and Elder Prescott's mind were being worked by the angels that were expelled from heaven..."
«…et votre esprit, ainsi que celui de l’ancien Prescott, étaient influencés par les anges qui furent chassés du ciel…»
"Satan's work was to divert your minds that jots and tittles should be brought in which the Lord did not inspire you to bring in. They were not essential. But this meant much to the cause of truth. And the ideas of your minds, if you could be drawn away to jots or tittles, is a work of Satan's devising. To correct little things in the books written, you suppose would be doing a great work. But I am charged, Silence is eloquence."
«L’œuvre de Satan consistait à détourner vos esprits, afin qu’on y introduisît des iotas et des points sur les i que le Seigneur ne vous avait pas inspirés à y introduire. Ils n’étaient pas essentiels. Mais cela avait une grande portée pour la cause de la vérité. Et les idées de vos esprits, si l’on pouvait vous entraîner vers des iotas ou des points sur les i, relèvent d’une œuvre conçue par Satan. Corriger de petites choses dans les livres écrits, pensez-vous, serait accomplir une grande œuvre. Mais il m’est enjoint : Le silence est éloquence.»
They wanted to go into Uriah Smith's book, Thoughts on Daniel and Revelation, and remove what he said about the Daily being Paganism. That is why in this time period one of the men that is fighting against Willie White and Prescott and Daniells is a man named Larry Smith.
Ils voulaient entrer dans le livre d’Uriah Smith, *Thoughts on Daniel and Revelation*, et en retirer ce qu’il disait au sujet du Continuel, à savoir qu’il s’agissait du paganisme. C’est pourquoi, dans cette période, l’un des hommes qui combat Willie White, Prescott et Daniells est un homme nommé Larry Smith.
Who is Larry Smith? That is Uriah's son, and he knows what they want to do and he is standing with his dad: the Daily is Paganism.
Larry Smith er hvør? Tað er sonur Uriahs, og hann veit, hvat teir vilja gera, og hann stendur saman við pápa sínum: hið dagliga er heiðindómur.
"I am to say, Stop your picking flaws. If this purpose of the devil could only be carried out, then [it] appears to you [that] your work would be considered as most wonderful in conception. It was the enemy's plan to get all the supposed objectionable features where all classes of minds did not agree.
“ကျွန်ုပ်သည် ‘အပြစ်ရှာခြင်းကို ရပ်တန့်ကြလော့’ ဟု ပြောရမည်ဖြစ်သည်။ မာရ်နတ်၏ ဤရည်ရွယ်ချက်သာ အကောင်အထည်ဖော်နိုင်ခဲ့လျှင်၊ သင်တို့အမြင်၌ သင်တို့၏အလုပ်သည် အကြံအစည်ပိုင်း၌ အလွန်အံ့ဩဖွယ်ကောင်းသောအရာအဖြစ် သတ်မှတ်ခံရမည်ဟု ထင်ရှားပေါ်လွင်၏။ ရန်သူ၏အစီအစဉ်မှာ စိတ်သဘောထားအမျိုးမျိုးရှိသူအပေါင်းတို့ မသဘောတူကြသည့် ထင်မြင်ရသော ကန့်ကွက်ဖွယ်အချက်လက္ခဏာများအားလုံးကို စုဆောင်းတင်ပြစေရန် ဖြစ်ခဲ့သည်။”
"And what then? The very work that pleases the devil would come to pass. There would be a representation given to the outsiders not of our faith just what would suit them, that would develop traits of character which would"
“И что же тогда? Совершилось бы именно то дело, которое угодно дьяволу. Посторонним было бы дано такое представление не о нашей вере, а именно такое, какое им пришлось бы по вкусу, которое развивало бы черты характера, которые бы”
do what? "cause great confusion."
faire quoi ? « causer une grande confusion. »
Other views of the Daily have been adopted that bring confusion and darkness.
D’autres conceptions du « Continuel » ont été adoptées, qui apportent la confusion et les ténèbres.
"and occupy the golden moments which should be used zealously to bring the great message before the people. The presentations upon any subject we have worked upon could not all harmonize, and the results would be to confuse the minds of believers and unbelievers. This is the very thing that Satan had planned that should take place—anything that could be magnified as a disagreement.
« et employer les précieux moments d’or qui devraient être utilisés avec zèle pour présenter au peuple le grand message. Les exposés sur quelque sujet que ce soit auquel nous avons travaillé ne pourraient pas tous s’accorder, et il en résulterait la confusion dans l’esprit des croyants comme des incroyants. C’est précisément là ce que Satan avait projeté qu’il arrive : tout ce qui pourrait être amplifié comme un désaccord. »
Lord willing, when we begin to prove these doctrines from our Bible study, we will look at Ezekiel 28; because, Ezekiel 28 is where the very root of the Daily is identified. Ezekiel 28 is about the exaltation of Lucifer, and she is marking it; because, as they are trying to say that the Daily represents Christ's Sanctuary ministry, not only were they rejecting the true view of the Daily, a symbol of self-exaltation, but they were manifesting that very self-exaltation in their own experience. She emphasizes they would bring confusion into our ranks.
Haddii Rabbigu idmo, marka aynu ka bilowno caddaynta caqiidooyinkan daraasaddeenna Kitaabka Quduuska ah, waxaynu eegi doonnaa Ezekiel 28; waayo, Ezekiel 28 waa meesha lagu aqoonsanayo xididka asalka ah ee “Daily”-ga. Ezekiel 28 wuxuu ku saabsan yahay is-sarraysiintii Lucifer, iyaduna taas ayay calaamadaynaysaa; maxaa yeelay, iyagoo isku dayaya inay yidhaahdaan “Daily”-gu wuxuu matalaa adeegga Masiixa ee Quduuska, ma aha oo keliya inay diidayeen fahamka runta ah ee “Daily”-ga, oo ah astaan is-sarraysiin, balse waxay waayo-aragnimadooda qudhooda ku muujinayeen isla is-sarraysiintaas. Waxay adkaynaysaa inay jahawareer ku soo dhex ridi doonaan safafkeenna.
"Now, here is a grand work, where strange spirits can figure. But the Lord has a work to [be] done to save perishing souls; and the places which Satan, disguised, could fill in, bringing confusion into our ranks, he will do to perfection, and all those little differences will become enlarged, prominent.
« À présent, voici une grande œuvre, où des esprits étranges peuvent intervenir. Mais le Seigneur a une œuvre à accomplir pour sauver les âmes qui périssent ; et les places que Satan, déguisé, pourrait occuper, semant la confusion dans nos rangs, il les remplira parfaitement, et toutes ces petites divergences deviendront amplifiées, saillantes. »
And what does it mean, "And I was shown"? God specifically told her this.
Na nini maana yake, “Nikaonyeshwa”? Mungu alimwambia hivyo moja kwa moja.
"And I was shown from the first that the Lord had given neither Elders Daniells nor Prescott the burden of this work. Should Satan's wiles be brought in, should this "Daily" be such a great matter as to be brought in to confuse minds and hinder the advancement of the work at this important period of time? It should not, whatever may be. This subject should not be introduced,"
«ទាំងតាំងពីដើមមក ខ្ញុំត្រូវបានបង្ហាញថា ព្រះអម្ចាស់មិនបានប្រទានបន្ទុកនៃកិច្ចការនេះដល់លោកចាស់ទុំ Daniells ឬ Prescott ឡើយ។ តើគួរឲ្យយុទ្ធល្បិចរបស់សាតាំងត្រូវបាននាំចូលមកឬ? តើ “Daily” នេះគួរត្រូវបានលើកឡើងជាបញ្ហាដ៏ធំដល់ថ្នាក់នាំចូលមកបង្កការភាន់ច្រឡំដល់ចិត្តគំនិត និងរារាំងការរីកចម្រើននៃកិច្ចការនៅក្នុងកាលៈទេសៈសំខាន់នេះឬ? វាមិនគួរដូច្នោះឡើយ ទោះជាយ៉ាងណាក៏ដោយ។ ប្រធានបទនេះមិនគួរត្រូវបាននាំចូលមកឡើយ»
Sister White understood the Daily, and she understood that teaching the Daily was Christ's Sanctuary ministry is something that came from angels that were expelled from Heaven and that it only brings confusion and darkness; and, she knew the Pioneer position that the Daily represented Paganism, and that when the Daily was taken away, the 1335-year time prophecy began. She knew that. She knew the difference, no matter what these guys want to say.
Sista White alielewa “la Kila Siku,” na alielewa kwamba fundisho la kusema kuwa “la Kila Siku” ni huduma ya Kristo katika Patakatifu ni jambo lililotoka kwa malaika waliofukuzwa kutoka Mbinguni na kwamba huleta tu machafuko na giza; naye alijua msimamo wa Waanzilishi kwamba “la Kila Siku” liliwakilisha Upagani, na kwamba “la Kila Siku” lilipoondolewa, unabii wa wakati wa miaka 1335 ulianza. Alijua hilo. Alijua tofauti, haidhuru watu hawa wanataka kusema nini.
"It should not, whatever may be. This subject should not be introduced, for the spirit that would be brought in would be forbidding, and Lucifer is watching every movement. Satanic agencies would commence his work and there would be confusion brought into our ranks. You have no call to hunt up the difference of opinion that is not a testing question; but your silence is eloquence. I have the matter all plainly before me. If the devil could involve any one of our own people on these subjects, as he has proposed to do, Satan's cause would triumph. Now the work without delay is to be taken up and not a [difference] of opinion expressed.
«នេះមិនគួរកើតមានឡើយ មិនថាមានអ្វីកើតឡើងក៏ដោយ។ ប្រធានបទនេះមិនគួរត្រូវបានលើកចូលមកទេ ពីព្រោះវិញ្ញាណដែលនឹងត្រូវនាំចូលមកនោះ គឺជាវិញ្ញាណហាមឃាត់ ហើយលូស៊ីហ្វែរកំពុងតាមមើលគ្រប់ចលនាទាំងអស់។ ភ្នាក់ងារសាតាំងនឹងចាប់ផ្តើមការងាររបស់វា ហើយភាពច្របូកច្របល់នឹងត្រូវនាំចូលមកក្នុងជួររបស់យើង។ អ្នកគ្មានការហៅណាមួយឲ្យទៅស្វែងរកភាពខុសគ្នានៃទស្សនៈ ដែលមិនមែនជាសំណួរសាកល្បងនោះទេ; ប៉ុន្តែភាពស្ងៀមស្ងាត់របស់អ្នកគឺជាវោហារ។ ខ្ញុំមានរឿងនេះនៅចំពោះមុខខ្ញុំយ៉ាងច្បាស់លាស់ទាំងស្រុង។ ប្រសិនបើអារក្សអាចទាញយកមនុស្សណាម្នាក់ក្នុងចំណោមប្រជាជនរបស់យើងឲ្យចូលពាក់ព័ន្ធក្នុងប្រធានបទទាំងនេះ ដូចដែលវាបានគ្រោងធ្វើមក នោះបុព្វហេតុរបស់សាតាំងនឹងទទួលជ័យជម្នះ។ ឥឡូវនេះ កិច្ចការដែលត្រូវធ្វើ គឺត្រូវយកឡើងដោយមិនពន្យារពេល ហើយមិនត្រូវបញ្ចេញ [ភាពខុសគ្នា] នៃទស្សនៈឡើយ។»
"Satan would inspire those men who have gone out from us to unite with evil angels and retard our work on unimportant questions, and what rejoicing [there] would be in the camp of the enemy. Press together, press together. Let every difference be buried. Our work now is to devote all our physical and brain-nerve power to put these differences out of the way, and all harmonize. If Satan could with his great unsanctified wisdom be permitted to get the least hold, [he would rejoice].
شەیتان ئەو پیاوانە هاندەدات کە لە نێوانمان چوونە دەرەوە، تاکو لەگەڵ فریشتە خراپەکان یەک بگرن و بەهۆی پرسیارە بێگرنگەکانەوە کارەکەمان دوا بخەن؛ چەند خۆشییەکیش [لەوێ] لە ناو ئۆردوگای دوژمن دەبوو. یەکتری نزیک بکەونەوە، یەکتری نزیک بکەونەوە. با هەر جیاوازییەک بنێژرێت. ئێستا کارەکەمان ئەوەیە کە هەموو هێزی جەستەیی و هێزی مێشک و ئەعصابمان تەرخان بکەین بۆ ئەوەی ئەم جیاوازییانە لە ڕێگا لاببەین و هەموومان هاوئاواز بین. ئەگەر بە شەیتان، لەگەڵ ئەو دانایییە گەورە و پیرۆز نەکراوەی خۆی، ڕێگە بدرایە دەستگیرترین دەستگرتنێکی بچووکیش بکات، [خۆشحال دەبوو].
"Now, when I saw how you were working, my mind took in the whole situation and the results if you should go forward and give the parties that have left us the least chance to bring confusion into our ranks. Your lack of wisdom would be just what Satan would have it. Your loud proclamation was not under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. I was instructed to say to you that your picking flaws in the writings of men that have been led of God is not inspired of God. And if this is the wisdom that Elder Daniells would give to the people, by no means give him an official position, for he cannot reason from cause to effect. Your silence on this subject is your wisdom. Now, everything like picking flaws in the publications of men who are not alive is not the work God has given any of you to do. For if these men—Elders Daniells and Prescott—had followed the directions given in working the cities, there would have been many, very many, convinced of the truth and converted, able men that [now] are in positions where they never will be reached.
“ሕጂ፣ ከመይ ከም እትሰርሑ ምስ ርኤኹ፣ እንተ ትቕጽሉ እሞ ነቶም ካብ ሓበሬታና ዝወጹ ወገናት ንምምጻእ ውሽጢ ስርዓትና እንታይ እንተኾነ እንተኾነ ዕድል እንተ ተዋህቦም ከመይ ዝበለ ኩነታትን ውጽኢትን ከም ዝፍጠር ሓሳበይ ብምሉኡ ኣእትዩ ኣሎ። ውሑድ ጥበብኩም ሰይጣን ዝደልዮ እዩ ዝነበረ። እቲ ብድምፂ ዝኣወጅኩምዎ ኣዋጅ ትንፋስ ቅዱስ ዘንቀሳቕሶ ኣይነበረን። ንኣኻትኩም ክብል ተመሃርኩ፣ እቲ ንጽሑፋት እቶም ብኣምላኽ ዝተመርሑ ሰባት ጉድለት ምእላሽኩም ካብ ኣምላኽ ዝተበገሰ ኣይኮነን። እንተ ድማ እዚ እቲ ኣባ ዳንኤልስ ንህዝቢ ዝህቦ ጥበብ እዩ እንተኾይኑ፣ ብፍጹም ወግዓዊ ስፍራ ኣይትሃብዎ፣ ምኽንያት ናብ ውጽኢት ክሓስብ ኣይኽእልን እዩ እሞ። ብዛዕባ እዚ ጉዳይ ጸጥታኹም ጥበብኩም እዩ። ሕጂ ድማ፣ ከምዚ ዝበለ ንሕትመታት ናይ ሞይቶም ሰባት ጉድለት ምድላይ ኣምላኽ ንሓደ ካባኻትኩም እኳ ዘይሃቦ ስራሕ እዩ። ምኽንያቱ፣ እንተ እዞም ሰባት—ኣባታት ዳንኤልስን ፕረስኮትን—ኣብ ምስራሕ ከተማታት ዝተዋህቦም መምርሒታት ተኸቲሎም ነይሮም፣ ብዙሓት፣ ኣዝዮም ብዙሓት፣ ብሓቂ ተኣማኒ ኮይኖም ምተለወጡ፣ እቶም ሕጂ ኣብ ቦታታት ዘለዉ እሞ ፈጺሞም ዘይበጽሑ ዓበይቲ ክእለት ዘለዎም ሰባት ነይሮም ምኾኑ።”
"All the world is to be regarded as one great family. And when you have such a fountain of knowledge to draw from, why have you left the world to perish for years with the testimonies given by our Lord Jesus Christ? True religion teaches us to regard every man and woman as a person to whom we can do good.
« Le monde entier doit être considéré comme une seule grande famille. Et lorsque vous avez une telle source de connaissance où puiser, pourquoi avez-vous laissé le monde périr pendant des années, alors que les témoignages ont été donnés par notre Seigneur Jésus-Christ ? La vraie religion nous enseigne à considérer chaque homme et chaque femme comme une personne à qui nous pouvons faire du bien. »
"This has been in print many years: —A Balanced Mind,' testimony to Elder Andrews. The mind may be cultivated to become a power to know when to speak and what burdens to take up and to bear, for Christ is your teacher. And I feared greatly for you [when I saw you] exalting your wisdom and pursuing a course to bring in differences of opinion. The Lord calls for wise men who can hold their peace when it [is] wisdom for them to do so. If you would be a whole man, you need sanctification through Jesus Christ. Now there is a work just started, and let wisdom be seen in every minister, in every president of [a] conference. But here was a work for you to take hold of years ago where you were needed to lift your voice for this very work. Christ gave all His people special directions what they shall do and the things they shall not do. And there is a little time left us to work out the righteousness of the Lord. You can understand the way of the Lord. I saw your purpose of carrying things after your own devising after you were placed as president. You had thought you would do wonderful things, which would be a work God had not placed in your hands to do. Now, your work is not to oppress but to release every necessity possible if the Lord has accepted you to serve. But you have very early given evidence that wisdom and sanctified judgment have not been manifested by you. You blazed out matters that would not be received unless the Lord should give light.
“हे अनेक वर्षदेखि मुद्रित हुँदै आएको छ:—‘एक सन्तुलित मन,’ एल्डर एन्ड्र्युजलाई दिएको साक्ष्य। मनलाई यसरी संस्कारित गर्न सकिन्छ कि कहिले बोल्ने र कुन भार उठाउने तथा बोक्ने भन्ने कुरा जान्न सक्ने शक्ति बनोस्, किनकि ख्रीष्ट तपाईंका शिक्षक हुनुहुन्छ। र [जब मैले तपाईंलाई देखेँ] तपाईंले आफ्नै बुद्धिलाई उच्च पार्दै मतभेदहरू ल्याउने मार्ग पछ्याइरहनुभएको देख्दा म तपाईंको लागि अत्यन्त भयभीत भएँ। प्रभु त्यस्ता बुद्धिमान मानिसहरूलाई आह्वान गर्नुहुन्छ, जो तिनीहरूका लागि मौन रहनु बुद्धिमानी हुने बेला मौन रहन सक्छन्। यदि तपाईं सम्पूर्ण मानिस हुन चाहनुहुन्छ भने, तपाईंलाई येशू ख्रीष्टद्वारा पवित्रीकरण चाहिन्छ। अब एउटा कार्य भर्खरै सुरु भएको छ, र प्रत्येक सेवकमा, प्रत्येक सम्मेलनका अध्यक्षमा बुद्धि देखिन देओस्। तर वर्षौँअघि तपाईंका लागि समात्नुपर्ने एउटा काम यहीँ थियो, जहाँ यसै कार्यको निम्ति तपाईंले आफ्नो स्वर उठाउनु आवश्यक थियो। ख्रीष्टले आफ्ना सबै जनहरूलाई तिनीहरूले के गर्नुपर्छ र के-के गर्नु हुँदैन भन्ने विषयमा विशेष निर्देशन दिनुभयो। र प्रभुको धार्मिकता कार्यान्वयन गर्न हामीसँग काम गर्ने समय अलिकति मात्र बाँकी छ। तपाईं प्रभुको मार्ग बुझ्न सक्नुहुन्छ। तपाईं अध्यक्षको रूपमा राखिनुभएपछि आफ्नै योजनाअनुसार कुराहरू चलाउने तपाईंको उद्देश्य मैले देखेँ। तपाईंले सोच्नुभएको थियो कि तपाईंले अद्भुत कार्यहरू गर्नुहुनेछ, जुन त्यस्तो काम थियो जुन गर्न परमेश्वरले तपाईंको हातमा राख्नुभएको थिएन। अब, यदि प्रभुले तपाईंलाई सेवा गर्न स्वीकार गर्नुभएको छ भने, तपाईंको काम दमन गर्नु होइन, बरु सम्भव हुने हरेक आवश्यकतामा विमोचन गर्नु हो। तर तपाईंले एकदम प्रारम्भमै यो प्रमाण दिनुभएको छ कि बुद्धि र पवित्र ठहरिएको न्याय तपाईंमा प्रकट भएको छैन। तपाईंले त्यस्ता विषयहरू तीव्रतापूर्वक अघि सार्नुभयो, जुन प्रभुले ज्योति नदिनुहुन्जेल स्वीकार गरिने थिएन।”
"I have been instructed that such hasty movements should not have [been] made [such] as selecting you as president of the conference even another year. But the Lord forbids any more such hasty transactions until the matter is brought before the Lord in prayer; and as you have had the message come to you that the work of the Lord resting upon the president is a most solemn responsibility, you had no moral right to blaze out as you did upon the subject of the —Daily' and suppose your influence would decide the question. There was Elder Haskell, who has carried the heavy responsibilities, and there is Elder Irwin and several men I might mention who have the heavy responsibilities.
Ich bin unterwiesen worden, dass derartige übereilte Schritte nicht hätten getan werden sollen, wie etwa, dich auch nur für ein weiteres Jahr zum Präsidenten der Konferenz zu wählen. Doch der Herr untersagt weitere solche übereilten Handlungen, bis die Angelegenheit im Gebet vor den Herrn gebracht wird; und da dir die Botschaft zugegangen ist, dass das Werk des Herrn, das auf dem Präsidenten ruht, eine höchst feierliche Verantwortung ist, hattest du kein moralisches Recht, in der Frage des „Daily“ so hervorzubrechen, wie du es getan hast, und anzunehmen, dein Einfluss werde die Frage entscheiden. Da war Ältester Haskell, der die schweren Verantwortungen getragen hat, und da ist Ältester Irwin und mehrere Männer, die ich nennen könnte, welche die schweren Verantwortungen tragen.
"Where was your respect for the men of age? What authority could you exercise without taking all the responsible men to weigh the matter? But let us now investigate the matter. We must now reconsider whether it is the Lord's judgment, in the face of the work that has been neglected, of showing your zeal to carry the work even another year. If you should carry the work another year with the help that shall unite with you, there should be a change take place in you and Elder Prescott. And humble your own hearts before God. The Lord will have to see in you a showing of a different experience, for if ever men needed to be reconverted at this present [time], it [is] Elder Daniells and Elder Prescott.
«Զարգացած տարիքի մարդկանց հանդեպ ձեր հարգանքը որտե՞ղ էր։ Ի՞նչ իշխանություն կարող էիք գործադրել՝ առանց բոլոր պատասխանատու մարդկանց ներգրավելու, որպեսզի հարցը քննադատվեր։ Սակայն այժմ եկեք քննենք այդ հարցը։ Այժմ մենք պետք է վերանայենք, թե արդյոք դա Տիրոջ դատաստանն է՝ այն գործի նկատմամբ, որ անտեսվել է, ձեր նախանձախնդրությունը ցույց տալու համար՝ գործը ևս մեկ տարի շարունակելու։ Եթե դուք ևս մեկ տարի շարունակեք գործը այն օգնությամբ, որ պիտի միանա ձեզ, ապա փոփոխություն պետք է տեղի ունենա ձեր մեջ և Երեց Պրեսքոտի մեջ։ Եվ խոնարհեցրե՛ք ձեր սեփական սրտերը Աստծո առաջ։ Տերը պիտի տեսնի ձեր մեջ այլ փորձառության դրսևորում, որովհետև եթե երբևէ եղել են մարդիկ, որ կարիք են ունեցել վերստին դարձի գալու այս ներկա [ժամանակում], ապա դրանք [են] Երեց Դանիելսը և Երեց Պրեսքոտը»։
"Seven men should be chosen that are men of wisdom and through the working of the grace of God [give] evidence [of] a reconversion. For any men who are so blinded that they cannot reason from cause to effect, that they would ignore the men who have borne the responsibilities of the work and these presidents of conferences, [that] men [who] carry the work for over two years should be disregarded and such an impulsive consequence take place that men would neglect the very work kept before them for years—work the cities—and no, or but very little, attention [be] given to the old men for counsel, but proclaim the things they choose to give the people, bears its own testimony of the unsafety of the men to be entrusted with such a grand and wonderful work.
سبعةُ رجالٍ ينبغي أن يُختاروا يكونون أهلَ حكمة، ويُظهرون، من خلال عمل نعمة الله، دليلًا على ارتدادٍ إلى الله من جديد. فأيُّ رجالٍ قد أُعميت بصيرتهم إلى حدٍّ لا يستطيعون معه أن يستدلّوا من السبب إلى النتيجة، حتى إنهم يتجاهلون الرجال الذين حملوا مسؤوليات العمل، وهؤلاء رؤساء المؤتمرات، [وأن] رجالًا [قد] اضطلعوا بالعمل لأكثر من سنتين يُعرَض عنهم، ويحدث على أثر ذلك اندفاعٌ متسرّعٌ كهذا، حتى إن الرجال يهملون العملَ ذاته الذي وُضع أمامهم سنينَ—العمل في المدن—ولا يُلتفَت، أو لا يُلتفَت إلا قليلًا جدًّا، إلى الشيوخ لطلب المشورة، بل يعلنون للناس الأمور التي يختارون أن يقدّموها لهم، فإن هذا يشهد من ذاته على عدم أمانة هؤلاء الرجال لأن يُؤتمنوا على عملٍ جليلٍ وعجيبٍ كهذا.
"Christ is not dead. He will never suffer His work to be carried on in this strange way. Let the books alone. If any change is essential, God will have the harmony in that change consistent, but when a message has been entrusted to men with the large responsibilities involved, [God] demands faithfulness that will work by love and purify the soul. Elders Daniells and Prescott both need reconversion. A strange work has come in, and it is not in harmony with the work Christ came to our world to do; and all who are truly converted will work the works of Christ.
“Kristus tidak mati. Ia tidak akan pernah membiarkan pekerjaan-Nya dilaksanakan dengan cara yang aneh ini. Biarkan kitab-kitab itu tetap sebagaimana adanya. Jika suatu perubahan memang mutlak perlu, Allah akan menghadirkan keselarasan dalam perubahan itu secara selaras; tetapi apabila suatu pekabaran telah dipercayakan kepada manusia dengan tanggung jawab besar yang terlibat di dalamnya, [Allah] menuntut kesetiaan yang bekerja oleh kasih dan menyucikan jiwa. Penatua Daniells dan Prescott keduanya memerlukan pertobatan kembali. Suatu pekerjaan yang asing telah masuk, dan itu tidak selaras dengan pekerjaan yang Kristus datang ke dunia kita untuk lakukan; dan semua orang yang sungguh-sungguh bertobat akan mengerjakan pekerjaan-pekerjaan Kristus.”
"We are everyone [to] work out the work which shall glorify the Father. We have come to the crisis—either to conform to the character of Jesus Christ right in this preparatory time or not attempt [it]. Elder Daniells, [you are not] to feel at liberty to let your voice be heard on high as you have done under similar circumstances. And understand, the president of a conference is not a ruler. He works in connection with the wise men who occupy the position as presidents whom God has accepted. He has not liberty to meddle with the writings in printed books from the pens that God has accepted. They are no longer to bear sway unless they show less of the ruling, dominating power. The crisis has come, for God will be dishonored.
“Vi er alle [sat til] å utføre den gjerning som skal herliggjøre Faderen. Vi er kommet til krisen—enten å bli likedannet med Jesu Kristi karakter nettopp i denne forberedelsestid, eller ikke forsøke [det]. Eldste Daniells, [du skal ikke] føle deg fri til å la din røst lyde høyt, slik du har gjort under lignende omstendigheter. Og forstå at en konferanses president ikke er en hersker. Han arbeider i forbindelse med de vise menn som innehar stillingen som presidenter, og som Gud har godkjent. Han har ikke frihet til å blande seg inn i det som er skrevet i trykte bøker av penner som Gud har godkjent. De skal ikke lenger herske, med mindre de viser mindre av den styrende, dominerende makt. Krisen er kommet, for Gud vil bli vanæret.
"How does the Lord look upon the unworked cities? Christ is in heaven. Now its acknowledgment is to be, —There is no kingly rule. And now is the crisis of this world. Now I am the Power to save or to destroy. Now is the time when the destiny of all is in My hands. I have given My life to save the world. And "I, if I be lifted up," the saving grace I shall impart will prove that all who will be fashioned after the divine similitude and will be one with Me shall work as I work with My power of redeeming grace.' Whoever will, [let him] take hold with his brethren to do the work given them to do when in responsible places under the counsel the Lord gives, and seek most earnestly to work in complete harmony with Him who so loved the world He gave His life a full sacrifice for the saving of the world. I speak to our ministers, that as they enter upon the work in our cities let there be a calm sacredness attending the ministry of the Word. We cannot make the proper impression upon the minds of the people if we . . . [Lower third of this page left blank.]
主如何看待那些尚未耕作的城市呢?基督现今在天上。如今所当承认的是:——并无君王般的统治。现今正是这世界的危机时刻。如今我是施行拯救或施行毁灭的权能。如今正是众人命运都掌握在我手中的时候。我已经舍了我的生命,为要拯救世界。并且“我若从地上被举起来”,我所要赐下的救恩之恩必证明:凡愿意被塑造成具有神圣样式并与我合而为一的人,必照我以救赎恩典之大能所行的去行。凡愿意的人,都当与他的弟兄一同努力,在负责任的岗位上,照着主所赐的劝勉,去做交托给他们的工作,并当以最恳切的心寻求与那位如此爱世人、甚至献出自己的生命作为完全祭牲以拯救世界的主,完全和谐地同工。我对我们的传道人说,当他们进入我们各城市开展工作时,务要使一种平静而神圣的气氛伴随着圣言的服事。若我们……,便不能在民众心中造成适当的印象。[本页下方三分之一留白。]
"I copy from my Diary. The truth as it is in Jesus—talk it, pray it, believe every word in its simplicity. What would you gain if mistakes are brought before the men who have departed from the faith and given heed to seducing spirits, men who were not long ago with us in the faith? Will you stand on the devil's side? Give your attention to the unworked fields. A world-wide work is before us. I was given representations of John Kellogg.
Je copie de mon Journal. La vérité telle qu’elle est en Jésus — proclamez-la, priez-la, croyez chaque parole dans sa simplicité. Que gagneriez-vous si des erreurs étaient portées devant des hommes qui se sont éloignés de la foi et ont prêté l’oreille à des esprits séducteurs, des hommes qui, il n’y a pas longtemps encore, étaient avec nous dans la foi ? Vous rangerez-vous du côté du diable ? Portez votre attention sur les champs encore non travaillés. Une œuvre mondiale est devant nous. Il m’a été donné des représentations concernant John Kellogg.
"A very attractive personage was representing the ideas of the specious arguments that he was presenting, sentiments different from the genuine Bible truth. And those who are hungering and thirsting after something new were advancing ideas [so specious] that Elder Prescott was in great danger. Elder Daniells was in great danger [of] becoming wrapped in a delusion that if these sentiments could be spoken everywhere it would be as a new world.
« Un personnage très séduisant représentait les idées des arguments spécieux qu’il présentait, des sentiments différents de la véritable vérité biblique. Et ceux qui avaient faim et soif de quelque chose de nouveau avançaient des idées [si spécieuses] qu’Elder Prescott courait un très grand danger. Elder Daniells courait un très grand danger [de] se laisser envelopper dans une illusion selon laquelle, si ces sentiments pouvaient être proclamés partout, ce serait comme un monde nouveau. »
"Yes, it would, but while their minds were thus absorbed I was shown that Brother Daniells and Brother Prescott were weaving into their experience sentiments of a spiritual[istic] appearance and drawing our people to beautiful sentiments that would deceive, if possible, the very elect."
“Oui, cela le ferait; mais tandis que leur esprit était ainsi absorbé, il me fut montré que frère Daniells et frère Prescott mêlaient à leur expérience des sentiments d’apparence spirituelle [spiritiste] et attiraient notre peuple vers de beaux sentiments qui séduiraient, s’il était possible, les élus mêmes.”
The very elect is not going to be deceived, but there are going to be people who are standing with the very elect that are going to get deceived. The very elect are the wise virgins. The foolish virgins are going to get deceived, right?
Les tout élus ne seront pas séduits, mais il y aura des personnes qui se tiennent avec les tout élus et qui seront séduites. Les tout élus sont les vierges sages. Les vierges folles seront séduites, n’est-ce pas ?
And as the wise virgins in this time period, when the temptation is there to deceive the very elect, as the wise virgins are receiving the outpouring of the Holy Spirit, what are the foolish virgins receiving? The strong delusion of 2 Thessalonians. We will deal with that, too, in connection with the Daily.
Et comme les vierges sages en cette période, où la tentation est telle qu’elle séduirait, s’il était possible, les élus mêmes, reçoivent l’effusion du Saint-Esprit, que reçoivent les vierges folles ? La puissance d’égarement de 2 Thessaloniciens. Nous traiterons aussi de cela en rapport avec le Continu.
—"were weaving into their experience sentiments of a spiritual[istic] appearance and drawing our people to beautiful sentiments that would deceive, if possible, the very elect."
—« étaient en train d’entrelacer dans leur expérience des sentiments d’apparence spirituelle [spiritiste] et d’attirer notre peuple vers de beaux sentiments qui séduiraient, s’il était possible, les élus mêmes. »
What is the very bottom line of spiritualism?
Quelle est, au fond, la réalité ultime du spiritualisme ?
When it comes to the story of King Saul, what did Samuel say? "Rebellion is as witchcraft." Rebellion is witchcraft.
En ce qui concerne l’histoire du roi Saül, qu’a dit Samuel ? « La rébellion est comme la sorcellerie. » La rébellion est sorcellerie.
Where does Saul end up?
Saul o si awɔle la?
FROM THE AUDIENCE: With the witch of Endor.
KE TOKO YA BATHEETHI: Ka moloi wa Endore.
With the witch of Endor.
Kunye lomthakathikazi wase-Endori.
What was it that King Sault did to produce this train of events that leads him to the witch of Endor? He set his word above God's Word. He had been told what to do, but he went ahead and he did what he wanted to do.
ئەمە چی بوو کە پاشا شاولی کرد بۆ ئەوەی ئەم زنجیرەی ڕووداوانە پێکبهێنێت کە دەیگەیەنێتە ژنە جادووگەرییەکەی ئێندۆر؟ ئەو وشەی خۆی خستە سەرووی وشەی خودا. پێی وترا بوو چی بکات، بەڵام بەردەوام بوو و ئەوەی خۆی دەیویست کردی.
The very bottom line of spiritualism is placing your word above God's Word. That is where it all starts. That is witchcraft.
La base même du spiritualisme, c’est de placer votre parole au-dessus de la Parole de Dieu. C’est là que tout commence. C’est de la sorcellerie.
Witchcraft is identifying how Satan brings you under his influence. How he entrances you it is a magical term dealing with magical deception.
L’envoûtement consiste à discerner comment Satan vous place sous son influence. La manière dont il vous ensorcelle relève d’un terme magique se rapportant à une tromperie magique.
When you are bewitched, who is the first to become bewitched? The witch. It all starts when I place my word above God's Word. That is witchcraft, that is rebellion, and I am the one that has become bewitched. And that is what happened to Daniells and Prescott.
Lorsque vous êtes ensorcelé, qui est le premier à le devenir? Le sorcier lui-même. Tout commence lorsque je place ma parole au-dessus de la Parole de Dieu. Cela, c’est de la sorcellerie; cela, c’est de la rébellion; et c’est moi qui suis devenu ensorcelé. Et c’est ce qui est arrivé à Daniells et à Prescott.
And what sentiments were Daniells and Prescott trying to bring in when this was happening? A wrong view of the Daily.
Waa dareenno noocee ah oo Daniells iyo Prescott isku dayayeen inay soo geliyaan xilligaas markii arrintani dhacaysay? Aragti qaldan oo ku saabsan allabariga joogtada ah.
And what is the true view of the Daily? Is that it is Paganism, and Paganism is the religion of self-exaltation. It is a religion that began in the courts of Heaven when Satan, when Satan, set his word above God's Word and introduced into the history of mankind the mystery of iniquity.
Et quelle est la véritable compréhension du « perpétuel » ? C’est qu’il désigne le paganisme, et le paganisme est la religion de l’exaltation de soi. C’est une religion qui prit naissance dans les parvis du ciel lorsque Satan, lorsque Satan, éleva sa parole au-dessus de la Parole de Dieu et introduisit dans l’histoire de l’humanité le mystère de l’iniquité.
The mystery of iniquity is Satan's work in bewitching us. It is Satan's work in getting us to place our word or his word above God's Word.
Le mystère de l’iniquité est l’œuvre de Satan lorsqu’il nous ensorcelle. C’est l’œuvre de Satan de nous amener à placer notre parole ou sa parole au-dessus de la Parole de Dieu.
Do you follow my thought?
Er du med på min tanke?
Look up iniquity. It will define iniquity in Strong's Concordance. And when you take it down to the root word, what is the root word for iniquity? Alpha, alpha. That is the Alpha Apostasy.
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When were Daniells and Prescott pushing this foolish view? In the time period of the Alpha Apostasy.
Daniells et Prescott faisaient-ils la promotion de cette opinion insensée? Pendant la période de l’Apostasie Alpha.
So, do not miss what Sister White is saying here about deceiving the very elect and about reading Ezekiel 28. She knew what was going on. She knew that this Daily thing is something that is not only wrong doctrinally but it requires those who are going to preach the wrong view of the Daily to place their word above God's Word and puts them in the position where they are bewitched; and, therefore, they are a tool in the hand of Satan to bewitch others with their rebellion.
Ainsi, ne manquez pas ce que Sœur White dit ici au sujet de la séduction des élus mêmes et au sujet de la lecture d’Ézéchiel 28. Elle savait ce qui se passait. Elle savait que cette question du « Daily » est quelque chose qui est non seulement erroné sur le plan doctrinal, mais qui exige de ceux qui vont prêcher la conception erronée du « Daily » qu’ils placent leur parole au-dessus de la Parole de Dieu, et cela les met dans une position où ils sont ensorcelés ; et, par conséquent, ils sont un instrument entre les mains de Satan pour ensorceler les autres par leur rébellion.
"I have to trace with my pen [the fact] that these brethren would see defects in their delusive ideas that would place the truth in an uncertainty; and [yet] they [would] stand out as [if they had] great spiritual discernment. Now I am to tell them [that] when I was shown this matter,"
Ես պետք է իմ գրչով արձանագրեմ [այն փաստը], որ այս եղբայրները իրենց մոլորեցուցիչ գաղափարների մեջ թերություններ պիտի տեսնեին, որոնք ճշմարտությունը պիտի դնեին անորոշության մեջ, և [այնուամենայնիվ] նրանք պիտի հանդես գային այնպես, [կարծես թե ունենային] մեծ հոգևոր զանազանություն։ Այժմ ես պետք է նրանց ասեմ, [որ] երբ ինձ այս բանը ցույց տրվեց,
People say, "Oh, Ellen White, she doesn't have a position on the Daily."
Watu husema, “Loo, Ellen White, yeye hana msimamo kuhusu Nduma ya Kila Siku.”
"when I was shown this matter when Elder Daniells was lifting up his voice like a trumpet in advocating his ideas of the —Daily,' the after results were presented. Our people were becoming confused. I saw the result, and then there were given me cautions that if Elder Daniells without respect to the outcome should thus be impressed and let himself believe he was under the inspiration of God,"—
« lorsqu’il me fut montré cette affaire, alors que l’ancien Daniells élevait sa voix comme une trompette pour défendre ses idées au sujet du “Perpétuel”, les conséquences ultérieures me furent présentées. Notre peuple devenait confus. J’en vis le résultat, et alors me furent donnés des avertissements, à savoir que si l’ancien Daniells, sans égard pour l’issue, devait être ainsi impressionné et se laisser croire qu’il était sous l’inspiration de Dieu, »
This is spiritualism. He has placed his word above God's Word. He is believing that he is being inspired by God.
Ceci est du spiritualisme. Il a placé sa parole au-dessus de la Parole de Dieu. Il croit être inspiré par Dieu.
"that if Elder Daniells without respect to the outcome should thus be impressed and let himself believe he was under the inspiration of God, skepticism would be sown among our ranks everywhere, and we should be where Satan would carry his messages. Set unbelief and skepticism would be sown in human minds, and strangecrops of evil would take the place of truth. Ms 67, 1910, 1–8. Manuscript Release, volume 20, 17–22.
«ថា ប្រសិនបើអែលឌើរ Daniells ដោយមិនគិតដល់លទ្ធផល នឹងត្រូវបានប៉ះពាល់ចិត្តយ៉ាងនោះ ហើយអនុញ្ញាតឲ្យខ្លួនជឿថា គាត់ស្ថិតក្រោមការបំផុសគំនិតរបស់ព្រះ នោះការសង្ស័យនិយមនឹងត្រូវបានសាបព្រោះនៅគ្រប់ទីកន្លែងក្នុងចំណោមជួររបស់យើង ហើយយើងនឹងស្ថិតនៅកន្លែងដែលសាតាំងនឹងនាំសាររបស់វាមក។ ការមិនជឿ និងការសង្ស័យនិយមដែលបានតាំងមាំ នឹងត្រូវបានសាបព្រោះក្នុងគំនិតមនុស្ស ហើយផលដំណាំអាក្រក់ដ៏ចម្លែកៗនឹងជំនួសសេចក្តីពិត។ Ms 67, 1910, 1–8. Manuscript Release, volume 20, 17–22.»
The strange crops of evil are growing all over Adventism today.
Le strane colture del male stanno crescendo oggi in tutto l’Avventismo.
Ellen White places her endorsement on the Pioneer understanding of the 2520.
Ellen White appose son approbation à la compréhension pionnière des 2520.
Ellen White places her endorsement on the Pioneer understanding that the Daily in the Book of Daniel represents Paganism.
Ellen White ya ba da goyon bayanta ga fahimtar Majagaba cewa “Daily” da ke cikin Littafin Daniyel yana wakiltar arna.